Btw I kept defending them but I'm actually quite fed up with suprnova now. I'm pretty certain they're skimming. ETN is just another example. Calculators estimate 30-40% more than what I effectively made over at Suprnova. Ofc I cannot prove it as long as I don't run rigs in parallel, but I'm just accumulating bad experiences.
yeah I mine LBR at suprnova too and i feel like the pay rates vary alot , they claim its difficulty changes etc, on a side not calculators vary day to day so to really catch them skimming you have to run the calcs for a week morning and night its quite a hassle |
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My 3.4 bcc is now worth quite a lot
Earlier this year I had more than 18 BCC. I sold them for a reasonable amount at the time, but now? well... timing is everything. Like if I had held my over 7k LTC mined in 2012. The LTC I sold in 2016 and is funding my crypto forays today, including miners, and other alts. Yeah i sold my 4 BCC for $700 ish though I did well  |
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Not sure if this question belongs here but WTF, its gotta go somewhere.
Everyone knows about recent surge in BCH. WhatToMine site shows BCH profitability almost double BTC and network hashrate is almost at parity.
It seems obvious to mine BCH right this minute... but hold on. What about transaction fees? They are through the roof on BTC blocks!
So just thinking...
1. Could it be better for me, right now, to mine BTC at pool that shares fees with miners instead of BCH even though WhatToMine tells me otherwise?
2. Has anyone mined both BTC and BCH over the last 24 hours to have a real comparison?
3. How does WhatToMine site deal with transaction fees? Seems their coin profitability ranking might not be so good for our current scenario if it does not consider fee sharing?
yeah its hard to figure out what is going down I would like an answer to this as well, btw I though you only get transaction fees for mining if you are solo mining ? |
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No,
I bought 13 Batch 1 and 3 of Batch 2.
Looking to get another 7 batch 2.
wow 16 units ?! how will you power all those i will try and order another two next week I have a good feeling about this miner idk why but usually my feelings on these matters alwaya pan out lol |
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I sent my wire transfer a little while ago to the Construction bank of china wire address.
My bank came back to me saying the construction bank of China wanted some info on Baikal(business dealings, are they russian etc) before releasing my funds to them.
Anyone else have something similar ?
I meet this also,then i go to baikal skype,send the picture of the question,and they reply me in 5 hours,i think it's due to the time different. You may try also. today my transfer was confirmed by Baikal. Yesterday i questioned them about their experiences with such delays and they confirmed better not to state Baikal in the transfer purpose, which i did.. as was mentioned in this thread earlier kinda nonsense since the name appears as recipient of the money anyways. but well. All in all it took 5 working days and 2 Question rounds with my Bank and some "factual" pressure to get the money thru to the Construction Bank Account. Basically told them that time is money here and to google all things about the whole transfer - thats what a private person can do in 20 sec and a Multi-Million Bank can't ?!.. worked out. Now awaiting 2nd Batch in December. so they are still for sale? how many did you order i would assume yes, preorder that is. Just email them and ask for a Quote. Ordered 2 for the start to mix with my 2 GPU miner, trying to diversify a bit here. Depending on x10 performance, general trend and my overall impression maybe gonna sell one with profit on local market and then buy more. thats a good idea i only ordered two as well, when you say local market you mean amazon or ebay? |
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Hey guys! I personally received a bunch of d3 as of a few days ago and have already found a reliable hosting facility. I mostly see here people that bought 1-15 miners and now are panicking. I have been in the game for a long time and this scenario is no different then any other. Crypto Business is very predictable, especially when it comes to Bitmain way of thinking. Yes, you will end up making a small amount of change for a while, but if you BELIEVE in this wicked game, you will at the end be rewarded. Same Thing happened to bitcoin miners. Here is What will happen, BIG FISH will NOT let D3 stay unprofitable, thats one. BITMAIN would not release a miner if they didnt know what they were doing. This game is not in your hands, but in big player hands. While your selling your miners Under 1k, all the big fish will buy out and laugh at you when dash will hit 1500$ in a few month and they are the only ones mining. And dont forget, every antminer has hidden hash power that mines for BITMAIN. Yes every miner out there brings revenue for them too=]. Cheers, just believe that the future holds rewards whether your in GPU or Latest Asic equipment. D3 WILL NOT FAIL, just be patient
lol my thoughts exactly the panic here is ridiculous we have seen this all before lol |
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WE are talking about people who already have D3's in hand book it if they keep their machines plugged in they will at the minimum ROI as long as they did not get gouged on the price and bought directly from bitmain.
I suspect you don't even follow your own advice telling people to sell their D3's which they just got LOL , who knows what will happen with dash prices , forks whatever next year.
smart miners are in this for the long run, this is not a get quick rich scheme keep on with the misinformation and fear mongering , only idiots will listen to you. Us old school miners have been here before carry on ...
Please do some research and stop making assumptions. How do you believe that ROI will be achieved? D3's are not the most efficient miner out there and everybody who bought one knew that before purchasing it. Even if the price stays exactly as it is now, the network difficulty is too high to make an ROI now. I'm not saying to sell them, but there is a slim chance that anybody will be able to make an ROI if they started mining today. If they started a month ago then they may have a chance. I don't own and D3's and I probably would sell them if I did. If you really believe that the Dash price will save everybody, then go buy Dash now because you will make more doing so than you would mining it. The Dash price increase is the only saving grace for D3 purchasers, and if they knew that before they bought them, they would have just bought Dash instead. If you are in this for the long run, then you should know that the D3 is definitely not going to make you a profit. People only bought them to get in the game while the difficulty rate of mining was still low (The opposite reason as going into it for the long run). If you managed to be one of those people, and had started mining a month ago, then congrats you might have reached ROI and be $500 ahead after a year. If you start mining now, you will never reach ROI with a D3. If you think I'm just spreading misinformed information and fear mongering, I'm sorry but you don't understand simple facts and network statistics. all this from a 19 post expert 😂😂😂😂 my last comment on this : Everyone can do what they want but history always repeats itself in the mining game I've given my advice lol take it or leave it, even this wana be expert doesnt have a crystal ball although it seems he would like you to believe he does. If you feel you need to sell your D3 go for it but , im my opionion its a short sighted move unless you get close to what you paid for it I would hang on to it lots could happen price wise in the next 12 months |
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anyone see a grey screen and crash when running more than 2 gpu on cast?
on a single gpu it works fine, but when i add more grey artifcats then crash,tried two separate motherboards
it only does thiswith the aug23 blockchain drivers , the ronbin hood ones dont crash but 1500 hs vs 1950
I hit a similar problem, but it was the same with XMR-Stak or Cast. I have a MSI X370 and could not get past three GPUs without a blue screen/crash. Changed risers, cables, Vega cards, PCIe slots, settings, on and on. Finally solved it: Used DDU to strip everything out. Went directly to Microsoft's site and downloaded the fall creators update (takes a while). That loaded the non-blockchain drivers and for the first time I could mine with 5 Vegas on that motherboard (but slow speeds). Uninstalled the newest drivers, reinstalled blockchain drivers. It's all good now. hmm i tried this several times, I have a window image that alrrady contsins the fall creators update included and did this with a fresh install still the same deal, Ill try it again i guess , thanks Have you tried newest amd in compute mode? With rx 4xx/5xx there is no need of blockchain driver anymore. I tried those drivers, had problems too **update** following Romis instructions i did a clean install, this time though i did not give the default driver time to install, I ran gpedit.msc and disabled the windows updates and driver updates in Immediatley rebooted the box. then i installed the Aug 23 blockchain drivers and with this clean update i could go into Amd settings and turn off crossfire. now i can run 5 cards or more on the New issue: 4 vega 56 1250/1065 run at around 1980hs but the last card seems stuck at 1800 no matter what the mem settings also doing 850 core and 950 mem voltages |
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Vega 56 is pretty much a one-trick pony on Monero at this time for cost and efficient cryptocoin mining, based on the info I've seen.
The 1070Tis are crap at eth, I dont see how the 56 is a one trick pony when it hits high hash rates on pretty much every algo it is used on , sorry but you are not making sense lol. They were back up to $459 or $469 when I checked Newegg pricing right before that post - RIGHT NOW there is a Power Color model at $409, a Gigabyte at $429, and the rest are OVER $500. On a hash/$ basis, even at $400 they barely match a RX 470/480/570/580 while being less power efficient per every posting I've seen. On everything else BUT Monero (and D.Net RC5-72 work) they are VERY poor on a hash/$ basis and usually not competative on hash/watt. ETH algo is about the ONLY algo the 1070 ti is "crap" at - far more flexable card than Vega 56 is and efficient at a LOT of algorithms. Efficiency is not everything, especially when it's as expensive as a pascal GPU. Hash per watt is good, hash per dollar is better. In a market as uncertain as crypto, you want the quickest possible return on your investment. Unless you have a massive operation already that'll quickly pay off your investment, you'll see profit quicker with Vega's. TLDR: Vega is less risky ^^ This and mining monero at 2000h/s at 125 watt is pretty damn efficent to me lol vega is the best choice for fastet ROI on gpus at current pricing, 1070ti and 1070s are too expensive for me Can you please share your settings for 2000h/s at 125W? You are using Vega64 or Vega56? Thanks! Im using vega 56 powecolor and gigabyte with the corresponding vega 64 bios so i can raise mem past 1000 my settings are 1250/1075 core voltage 800 mem voltages 925 set via overdriven tool only one card does over 2050 though the rest are at like 1980 ish but im having issues adding more cardd to each board so not doing much tweaking. I concur though Nvidia cards are fire and forget AMD requires alot of coaxing just to get basic shit to work What power mod reg file are you using to get those Vegas running fine? I am having hard time getting my Gigabyte 56s flashed to corresponding 64 rom to work properly. They respond in a different way when put in Asus X370 board with Ryzen cpu and Gigabyte Z270p board with G4560 cpu. win 10 64bit, 16gb ram, blockchain drivers, the reg file is ,orepowervega64_142_modded_fix. It would not run with the regs given in the reddit thread Im not using those powertune mods , just using very low voltage and low core speed |
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miners have mined at losses before , this is nothing new, some idiots will turn off thier d3 or sell for peanuts, smart folks will mine dash or something else dirctly and wait for price increases. plus if you have over .10 cent power your not supposed to be asic mining anyways get u a bunch of 1060 or 1070s dummies
Miners will not mine at a loss. I don't know how you can convince yourself that they would. The smart ones will stop mining at a loss and sell their equipment. You don't see many Antminer S5's running anymore do you? The name of the game in mining is profitability. Nobody is mining at a loss long term because it's fun to do. It is still plenty profitable to mine at 10 cents/kWh in most cases. Right now not a crazy amount for Dash, but the incentives will align with the difficulty rate eventually as soon as everybody realizes that they in fact are not going to make $400 000 annually from one Dash miner and move on. Of course, you will always be more profitable at a lower cents/kWh cost but I believe most people who bough the D3 or A5 have never even considered that because they thought they would have it paid off in a month. Mining Ethereum with a 1060 or 1070 is, on average, not any more or any less efficient than any other cryptocurrency. Why? Because of the nature of mining and its' incentive game theory. People only mine what is profitable. This is the most obvious #1 rule. If you are mining because of the fact that you are trying to "...wait for price increases" then smart people will just buy the cryptocurrency directly and wait for the price to increase. Why waste money mining it yourself if your not making a profit and you could just buy it? youre making zero sense, we are talking about people who already have D3s in hand or will be getting them soon, and you yoursef just said that the d3 will be unpofitable i.e use the same amount of power as the money it makes in a few months, up until that point they will still be making money and the units are fully paid for in any case. even when the difuculty hits the point where they are mot making money they wont me losing much a day for a while dash was like $500 in april it stands to reason that at some point it will go back up as news or updates get rrsleased either way selling a unit you bought for $1500 or more for $500, is stupid , People who stopped mining in 2013 when profits were non existant and sold thier rigs for penuts still kick themselvs today, alot of them would have been millionares if they kept at it and hoarded coins . history will most likely repeat itself here. compariing mining with the s3 or s2 is idiotic, those machines all had thier 2 year run and were totally obsolete after the s7 came out, the A5 and D3 are new technology they will mine dash for at least a year get real bro Anybody who plugs in an Antminer D3 today has very little chance of ever reaching ROI when accounting for electricity costs. At current network difficulty, it will take 2 years to reach an ROI with a D3 (in the US assuming 10 cents/kWh). This is also assuming that the network difficulty does not increase during those 2 years, which would mean that nobody starts to run their new A5's on the network. Yes, of course the price of Dash can rise dramatically, but if that is the case, you would have been better off all along to just buy Dash instead of purchasing a miner. In fact, you would have made more by doing that instead of mining. You also have to realize that the market can also go down just as fast as it goes up. If people sell Dash as soon as they mine it, then it will devalue and it will be even harder to reach ROI. People who stopped mining in 2013 when profits were non existant and sold thier rigs for penuts still kick themselvs today, alot of them would have been millionares if they kept at it and hoarded coins .
Again, if you believe that the saving grace will be because of the increase in the price of Dash, then buying Dash directly will be far more profitable than buying a D3. It is not a good strategy to buy a miner, knowing that it will be mining at a loss, and expect to come out on top because you believe the value of the cryptocurrency will increase. The very opposite is likely to happen. WE are talking about people who already have D3's in hand book it if they keep their machines plugged in they will at the minimum ROI as long as they did not get gouged on the price and bought directly from bitmain. I suspect you don't even follow your own advice telling people to sell their D3's which they just got LOL , who knows what will happen with dash prices , forks whatever next year. smart miners are in this for the long run, this is not a get quick rich scheme keep on with the misinformation and fear mongering , only idiots will listen to you. Us old school miners have been here before carry on ... |
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Vega 56 is pretty much a one-trick pony on Monero at this time for cost and efficient cryptocoin mining, based on the info I've seen.
The 1070Tis are crap at eth, I dont see how the 56 is a one trick pony when it hits high hash rates on pretty much every algo it is used on , sorry but you are not making sense lol. They were back up to $459 or $469 when I checked Newegg pricing right before that post - RIGHT NOW there is a Power Color model at $409, a Gigabyte at $429, and the rest are OVER $500. On a hash/$ basis, even at $400 they barely match a RX 470/480/570/580 while being less power efficient per every posting I've seen. On everything else BUT Monero (and D.Net RC5-72 work) they are VERY poor on a hash/$ basis and usually not competative on hash/watt. ETH algo is about the ONLY algo the 1070 ti is "crap" at - far more flexable card than Vega 56 is and efficient at a LOT of algorithms. Efficiency is not everything, especially when it's as expensive as a pascal GPU. Hash per watt is good, hash per dollar is better. In a market as uncertain as crypto, you want the quickest possible return on your investment. Unless you have a massive operation already that'll quickly pay off your investment, you'll see profit quicker with Vega's. TLDR: Vega is less risky ^^ This and mining monero at 2000h/s at 125 watt is pretty damn efficent to me lol vega is the best choice for fastet ROI on gpus at current pricing, 1070ti and 1070s are too expensive for me Can you please share your settings for 2000h/s at 125W? You are using Vega64 or Vega56? Thanks! Im using vega 56 powecolor and gigabyte with the corresponding vega 64 bios so i can raise mem past 1000 my settings are 1250/1075 core voltage 800 mem voltages 925 set via overdriven tool only one card does over 2050 though the rest are at like 1980 ish but im having issues adding more cardd to each board so not doing much tweaking. I concur though Nvidia cards are fire and forget AMD requires alot of coaxing just to get basic shit to work |
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miners have mined at losses before , this is nothing new, some idiots will turn off thier d3 or sell for peanuts, smart folks will mine dash or something else dirctly and wait for price increases. plus if you have over .10 cent power your not supposed to be asic mining anyways get u a bunch of 1060 or 1070s dummies
Miners will not mine at a loss. I don't know how you can convince yourself that they would. The smart ones will stop mining at a loss and sell their equipment. You don't see many Antminer S5's running anymore do you? The name of the game in mining is profitability. Nobody is mining at a loss long term because it's fun to do. It is still plenty profitable to mine at 10 cents/kWh in most cases. Right now not a crazy amount for Dash, but the incentives will align with the difficulty rate eventually as soon as everybody realizes that they in fact are not going to make $400 000 annually from one Dash miner and move on. Of course, you will always be more profitable at a lower cents/kWh cost but I believe most people who bough the D3 or A5 have never even considered that because they thought they would have it paid off in a month. Mining Ethereum with a 1060 or 1070 is, on average, not any more or any less efficient than any other cryptocurrency. Why? Because of the nature of mining and its' incentive game theory. People only mine what is profitable. This is the most obvious #1 rule. If you are mining because of the fact that you are trying to "...wait for price increases" then smart people will just buy the cryptocurrency directly and wait for the price to increase. Why waste money mining it yourself if your not making a profit and you could just buy it? youre making zero sense, we are talking about people who already have D3s in hand or will be getting them soon, and you yoursef just said that the d3 will be unpofitable i.e use the same amount of power as the money it makes in a few months, up until that point they will still be making money and the units are fully paid for in any case. even when the difuculty hits the point where they are mot making money they wont me losing much a day for a while dash was like $500 in april it stands to reason that at some point it will go back up as news or updates get rrsleased either way selling a unit you bought for $1500 or more for $500, is stupid , People who stopped mining in 2013 when profits were non existant and sold thier rigs for penuts still kick themselvs today, alot of them would have been millionares if they kept at it and hoarded coins . history will most likely repeat itself here. compariing mining with the s3 or s2 is idiotic, those machines all had thier 2 year run and were totally obsolete after the s7 came out, the A5 and D3 are new technology they will mine dash for at least a year get real bro |
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why are u not listing suprnova |
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Stak doesnt have NH support yet - it says it does at Github, seems not implemented yet. Currently I use smOS Linux... sgminer-gm-NH-v5.5.5 for AMD (failover pools, no dev fee) and ccminer v2.1 or v2.2 (skunk) for NVIDIA -- no dev fee. Both supports NH/extranonce I downloaded bot cast and stack ill grab some screen shots later |
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anyone see a grey screen and crash when running more than 2 gpu on cast?
on a single gpu it works fine, but when i add more grey artifcats then crash,tried two separate motherboards
it only does thiswith the aug23 blockchain drivers , the ronbin hood ones dont crash but 1500 hs vs 1950
I hit a similar problem, but it was the same with XMR-Stak or Cast. I have a MSI X370 and could not get past three GPUs without a blue screen/crash. Changed risers, cables, Vega cards, PCIe slots, settings, on and on. Finally solved it: Used DDU to strip everything out. Went directly to Microsoft's site and downloaded the fall creators update (takes a while). That loaded the non-blockchain drivers and for the first time I could mine with 5 Vegas on that motherboard (but slow speeds). Uninstalled the newest drivers, reinstalled blockchain drivers. It's all good now. hmm i tried this several times, I have a window image that alrrady contsins the fall creators update included and did this with a fresh install still the same deal, Ill try it again i guess , thanks |
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Im using stack xmr , i have an issue with more than 4 cards per board tho , still trying to solve it |
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my vegas are doing $5 a day on nicehash |
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Vega 56 is pretty much a one-trick pony on Monero at this time for cost and efficient cryptocoin mining, based on the info I've seen.
The 1070Tis are crap at eth, I dont see how the 56 is a one trick pony when it hits high hash rates on pretty much every algo it is used on , sorry but you are not making sense lol. They were back up to $459 or $469 when I checked Newegg pricing right before that post - RIGHT NOW there is a Power Color model at $409, a Gigabyte at $429, and the rest are OVER $500. On a hash/$ basis, even at $400 they barely match a RX 470/480/570/580 while being less power efficient per every posting I've seen. On everything else BUT Monero (and D.Net RC5-72 work) they are VERY poor on a hash/$ basis and usually not competative on hash/watt. ETH algo is about the ONLY algo the 1070 ti is "crap" at - far more flexable card than Vega 56 is and efficient at a LOT of algorithms. Efficiency is not everything, especially when it's as expensive as a pascal GPU. Hash per watt is good, hash per dollar is better. In a market as uncertain as crypto, you want the quickest possible return on your investment. Unless you have a massive operation already that'll quickly pay off your investment, you'll see profit quicker with Vega's. TLDR: Vega is less risky ^^ This and mining monero at 2000h/s at 125 watt is pretty damn efficent to me lol vega is the best choice for fastet ROI on gpus at current pricing, 1070ti and 1070s are too expensive for me |
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if BTG takes off solid we could see a boost on nvidia card prices.
Simple logic dictates it.
I will be making a move to get the Zotac 1070ti MINI (110watts, 200core, 700mem, 500sols, DSTM miner) before prices go crazy. Just ordered 16 pieces --- wife is going to kill me. https://www.lazada.sg/zotac-geforce-gtx-1070-ti-mini-71682857.html?spm=a2o42.checkout_succ.0.0.6c763992WhlYVc673.2 Singapore Dollar equals 494.84 US Dollar Right to my doorsteps. Final bill had some "11-11" discounts about 300$ SGD off -- I think they are competing with ALiexpress "11-11" Year end sales. I will be using the Colorful 8 slots mobo and get 2 rigs. nice buy, btw where are you sourcing your colorful boards from? i need a few for my vega builds |
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dashmaster 30GH for 10k ?
D3 19 GH for $1500 ?
LOOOOOL rip A5 more like dash loser
In a couple months the D3 will cost more in electricity to run than it earns. And currently it only nets ~$2.50 USD worth of Dash per day at 17 Gh factoring average electricity costs in the US. The only chance anybody will have to make profit is going to have to be with the A5, until something more powerful comes out. It might take years for the A5 to be worth it. But at least the possibility is there. Try running the D3 for a year and you will be paying more in electricity than you will be making, never mind the cost put forward to buy it. Unless you have free electricity.. D3's will start to yield negative profits in a couple of months. Btw Innosilicon just posted this. Shipping has allegedly started... given Innosilions track record, I don't even know if I can believe this Tweet: https://twitter.com/Inno_Miner/status/928803414338707458is it becuase you are factoring in power usage? Innosilicon is notorious for understating power usage Id wait to recive a few units in the wild before making predictions like this Yes, as power usage is the determining factor on profitability. Even if the A5 used the same amount of power draw as the D3, which Inno has already released video proof that it does not, it will still be making a profit at the end of the day. That's not to say that they will ever reach ROI because who knows when something more powerful gets released.. but the D3's are barely making anything already, which is why they are so cheap on ebay ($850 USD new, unopened). People are trying to get rid of them. Once the Dash difficulty reaches 65 000 000 then D3's will officially cost more to run than they will be making. (at current rates ect..) The difficulty is at 36 000 000 as of the time of this writing. Contrast that to the A5. The mining difficulty would have to reach 180 000 000 before the A5's are obsolete in the US (given average US power costs.. other areas will vary). If the A5 used the same power draw as the D3, then the network difficulty would need to reach 110 000 000 before profits are lost. Either way, much better than the D3 of course. Use this tool to check for yourself: https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/dash-mining-calculator/miners have mined at losses before , this is nothing new, some idiots will turn off thier d3 or sell for peanuts, smart folks will mine dash or something else dirctly and wait for price increases. plus if you have over .10 cent power your not supposed to be asic mining anyways get u a bunch of 1060 or 1070s dummies |
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