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1721  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Baikal Giant X10 on: November 11, 2017, 03:49:03 PM
I sent my wire transfer a little while ago to the Construction bank of china wire address.

My bank came back to me saying the construction bank of China wanted some info on Baikal(business dealings, are they russian etc) before releasing my funds to them.

Anyone else have something similar ?


I meet this also,then i go to baikal skype,send the picture of the question,and they reply me in 5 hours,i think it's due to the time different.
You may try also.

today my transfer was confirmed by Baikal. Yesterday i questioned them about their experiences with such delays and they confirmed better not to state Baikal in the transfer purpose, which i did.. as was mentioned in this thread earlier kinda nonsense since the name appears as recipient of the money anyways. but well.

All in all it took 5 working days and 2 Question rounds with my Bank and some "factual" pressure to get the money thru to the Construction Bank Account. Basically told them that time is money here and to google all things about the whole transfer - thats what a private person can do in 20 sec and a Multi-Million Bank can't ?!.. worked out.

Now awaiting 2nd Batch in December.

so they are still for sale? how many did you order
1722  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: November 11, 2017, 06:47:51 AM
BTC gold futures at 290, I suspect they will hit 500 before the dumping starts

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-gold/

alot of money will be made on nicehash i think, either way this gives us something new to mine and a new competitor to BTC which is great

since its totally GPU driven
1723  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: November 11, 2017, 04:58:14 AM
Yeah I though about that , that i think is the best solution, I fan speed control unit laying , only problem with that is I have to cut and re-wire the box again and I dont want to do that again , its a pain messing with
that tiny  box.  

Do you have a link to a cheap Variac unit that I could use that allows for up to 10A , 120V continuous ? Alot of the ones are only meant to be run for 2 hrs

Just get a variac with an outlet on it, and I am sure you should be fine...  just put it in between the controller and fan.

Most variac's can hold 10A no problem AFAIK.

Lemme pull up a ebay listing so you have an idea of what to shoot for: Ebay item#262487292564
Says it holds 20A... so should be plenty.

Just verify that your speed selected, still starts up the motor upon power failure;  or it could sit there and burn up the brushes if you have it set too low.

*edit* phil may be an option as well Wink



Yeah thats exactly what I need thanks !, Ill wait to hear from phil and see which units he has, fuck ebay lol
1724  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: November 11, 2017, 04:41:54 AM
btw I found this on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B076J37KN3/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=new

$188 free shipping ? long delivery date though
1725  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: November 11, 2017, 04:40:26 AM
put a variac on the fan power lead to limit the voltage to the unit;  you can use the variac as a psuedo speed controller.  Maybe you can find a setting that's the right amount of flow for 100% on-time to limit starts and stops.

More fans specifically just circulating air into or out of the hotspots of the room will help keep it all equal as well


Yeah I though about that , that i think is the best solution, I fan speed control unit laying , only problem with that is I have to cut and re-wire the box again and I dont want to do that again , its a pain messing with
that tiny  box. 

Do you have a link to a cheap Variac unit that I could use that allows for up to 10A , 120V continuous ? Alot of the ones are only meant to be run for 2 hrs
1726  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: November 11, 2017, 04:17:44 AM
I am wondering that adding exhaust fan makes any difference on top of the current setup? Please advise.
You're wondering if venting heated air will make the place cooler..?

Yes, technically I want to know it really helps cooling the room.

Adding more exhaust capacity to get that hot air out is very important.  90F is not too hot for the hardware to be safe running 24/7 as long as you can exhaust that hot air out of there and keep the GPU temperatures safe.  How hot are your GPUs running when it's 90 F in the room?

They are about 75-78F when it is 90F. Temps are here : https://ibb.co/kuBbAw


AC is a waste of electricity unless you have  free power, your exhuast fans need to be ABOVE your rigs not in at the same level and you  also need to make sure your room is somewhat presurerized

you can tell this by when you open the doors you feel the suction of the exhaust fans pulling heat up.

I have 30 rigs in my garage with only 1 of six exhasut fans going and my temps are like 30 degreees in winter, fall with three fans going like 60

How big size is the exhaust fans? I wonder what type is the most useful for venting.

Option 1 : http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac/exhaust-fans/exhaust-and-supply/24in-heavy-duty-exhaust-fan-with-integrated-shutter-if24-4100-cfm?infoParam.campaignId=T9F&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIicG6v5K01wIVhoWzCh2UqwtCEAYYBCABEgIMOvD_BwE

Option 2 : http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac/fans/blower/portable-ventilation-fan-12-inch-with-32-feet-flexible-ducting?infoParam.campaignId=T9F&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIicG6v5K01wIVhoWzCh2UqwtCEAYYAiABEgI5kvD_BwE

I want to test Option 2 to vent the heated air to see if it works better.

@Phil : Sorry to dive into your conversation.


If you have your GPUs only running the fans at 30-40% or so and your temps are still only in the 70s Celsius (going by the image you linked) then you really are doing great. If you would run your fans at 60-65% you would have lower GPU temps and still have plenty of longevity for the fans themselves.

I think the only thing you really need to be worrying about is ditching that AC unit and getting some good industrial exhaust fans installed... that will save you allot each month on your electric bill and keep things just as cool and probably cooler.

So this discussion has me thinking too

Its getting cold here and my intake fan i use to bring in cool filtered air into my basement is basically freezing  the entire house when we get to sub 15 degree temps, woke up feeling like an icicle last night so I picked up this



then plugged in the cord for the exhaust fan (2500CFM job)
sorry for the bad fan images its an intake exhaust fan set currently to perma intake,
Like the previous poster I found exhaust does not work at all if its on the same level of your miners , plus my basement is huge around 1200 feet and thee
fan is in the only window which is actually a windowsill and that is way across from where the rigs are, around 10 feet away.


Side not, I ran this fan all last year with great results summer and winter the one issue I had was the excessive amount of dust brought into my basement
so this fall I created this custom filter using re-usable/washable filters.  Seems to be helping so far, at least stopping all the bugs and larger particles
we shall see.  Hopefully this gives other folks some ideas, believe me filtering intake are is crucial, dust really accumulates on  those rig fans and motherboards
and it can cause major static issues.







anyways back to my question.

SO this new lux thermostat thing works great, the only problem is my miners are across the room from the intake fan where the temp is set  to 78 degrees on the lux

what that means is it only takes around 15 mins of the fan not running for the temps hit my target temp of 78 degrees ,  then only 5 mins or so of running to cool  that side of the room again back to my target

temp. 

I worry if the constant starting stopping of the fan (its industrial grade) could damage it ?

Another option maybe is to run a extension cable to the mining area and then put the thermostat plug there ? maybe using the higher temperature of that area (82 degrees) could increase the delay before the fan kicks in.

Either way the current system is working for now, but there has to be a better way ?

1727  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: November 11, 2017, 12:16:12 AM
Here's a prototype frame for the Onda D1800 motherboard:



 Grin


Looks NEAT!

Could you share the measurement and material information?

He builds cases for sale not that sure he would tell you the info.


@ spotswood  the larger board was delayed  It arrives on monday.  I will send it out to you on Tuesday.

I have  10 of these coming this monday.

my cost..........       142
my markup...........     8
shipping to  usa.....   20  maybe less




Ill take one of those boards to test for sure
1728  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: November 10, 2017, 04:34:36 PM
Question to those of you that mine Equihash @ Nicehash .. Do you take the payout in BTC?

Edit: sorry if this is a dumb question. Roll Eyes

try it you dont have a choice nice-hash takes a fee and always pays in BTC
1729  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: November 10, 2017, 02:06:49 PM

I think we might be in for a... disappointment.

As a guy posted in another thread, max total miner revenue per 24 hours is = 144 blocks * 12.5 block reward * $180/coin = $324,000 a day

Ethereum miner revenuer per 24 hours is like $6 million.

I don't think this will be a high flier unless the price goes up substantially.

Ethereum has 104 Th Nethash... that's 3.5 million GPU's @ 30Mh/s.

So it would be the same revenue as BTG if BTG attracts 1/18th the GPU's, i.e., 200,000 GPU's.

Hopefully it attracts a few more GPU's than that
Hopefully not! Cheesy

On a sidenote, I've run the calcs... If I were to build another rig using the 6-slot Onda D1800 and filling them with Vega 56's, it'd still set me back over $4000 (Thanks to UK prices and VAT...). That's (assuming today's mining profitability) about 7 months to breakeven. 2.5 months if all my rigs work together towards that goal.

Conclusion: Still undecided. Sad

If you have a VEGA rig -- you might as well sell your hash to NH/Cryptonite.

In whattomine, NH/Cryptonite is table leader for over a week now, ahead of ETH and Equihash.
Yeah, that's what I've been doing with my two RX 570 rigs over the past week.

Quote from: citronick
For this BTG....

I am testing a strategy to put all my rigs pointed to Nicehash Equihash (for the first few weeks) because of  --

- possibility of higher premium for miners/non-miners buying additional hash to quickly mine BTG because of low difficulty

- a lot of pools are getting ready for BTG and it may take awhile to see which pools are stable and cheapest to mine

I think I will do the same. This will spare me having to wake up at 7 on Sunday to manually switch my rigs to pools that aren't ready... I'll just set them all to Nicehash-Equihash on Saturday night before I go to sleep hey hoo.

yeah ill point around 2/3 of my rigs to nicehas and a few to pools to see if they are actually working
1730  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: November 10, 2017, 02:05:29 PM

I think we might be in for a... disappointment.

As a guy posted in another thread, max total miner revenue per 24 hours is = 144 blocks * 12.5 block reward * $180/coin = $324,000 a day

Ethereum miner revenuer per 24 hours is like $6 million.

I don't think this will be a high flier unless the price goes up substantially.

Ethereum has 104 Th Nethash... that's 3.5 million GPU's @ 30Mh/s.

So it would be the same revenue as BTG if BTG attracts 1/18th the GPU's, i.e., 200,000 GPU's.

Hopefully it attracts a few more GPU's than that
Hopefully not! Cheesy

On a sidenote, I've run the calcs... If I were to build another rig using the 6-slot Onda D1800 and filling them with Vega 56's, it'd still set me back over $4000 (Thanks to UK prices and VAT...). That's (assuming today's mining profitability) about 7 months to breakeven. 2.5 months if all my rigs work together towards that goal.

Conclusion: Still undecided. Sad
yeah my three vegas mine cryponite, 1950 h/s each only problem is drivers are trash atm

 
1731  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: November 10, 2017, 02:02:09 PM
both of those are wall mounted ,  i suppose as long as they ate above your rigs either should work

the one u get depends on your mounting options
1732  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Any word on amd vega hash rates? on: November 10, 2017, 09:43:45 AM
anyone see a grey screen and crash when running more than 2 gpu on cast?

on a single gpu it works fine, but when i add more grey artifcats then crash,tried two separate motherboards
it only does thiswith the aug23 blockchain drivers , the ronbin hood ones dont crash but 1500 hs vs 1950
1733  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: BTC Gold MainNet Launch on: November 10, 2017, 03:18:57 AM
You do realize that this coin will be very unprofitable to mine from the start.

Max miner revenue per 24 hours is = 144 blocks * 12.5 block reward * $150 coin = $270,000 a day

Ethereum miner revenuer per 24 hours is like $6 million.





how did you come up with t his ?

I think the money to be made here is nicehash for all the greedy hash buyers lol

If I may?

1 blk every 10 mins (on average) = 6 blks/hr = 144 blocks/day

144 * 12.5 coins/blk * (your favorite BTG coin price) = $/day


Major coin smackdown.

Only way it will be profitable will be for the instaminers who are probably the developers.

Others will make money , and yeah the price is low now but its a btc clone with same low supply and slow blocktimes the price should rise in the long term if the network is successful.  Either way the diff is far less than bitcoin so you should be able to mine a nice quantity and hold.  If you are just minung to dump yeah its a bad idea.

nicehash scam or not will have high rental rates Ill make some nice $$ pretty much guruanteed more that i would mining something else for at least the week
1734  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Innosilicon A5 DashMaster 30.2G 750W on: November 10, 2017, 03:02:01 AM
dashmaster 30GH for 10k ?
D3 19 GH for $1500 ?

LOOOOOL rip A5 more like dash loser
In a couple months the D3 will cost more in electricity to run than it earns. And currently it only nets ~$2.50 USD worth of Dash per day at 17 Gh factoring average electricity costs in the US. The only chance anybody will have to make profit is going to have to be with the A5, until something more powerful comes out.

It might take years for the A5 to be worth it. But at least the possibility is there. Try running the D3 for a year and you will be paying more in electricity than you will be making, never mind the cost put forward to buy it.

Unless you have free electricity.. D3's will start to yield negative profits in a couple of months.

Btw Innosilicon just posted this. Shipping has allegedly started... given Innosilions track record, I don't even know if I can believe this Tweet:
https://twitter.com/Inno_Miner/status/928803414338707458
is it becuase you are factoring in power usage? Innosilicon is notorious for understating power usage

Id wait to recive a few units in the wild before making predictions like this
1735  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: BTC Gold MainNet Launch on: November 10, 2017, 02:04:01 AM
You do realize that this coin will be very unprofitable to mine from the start.

Max miner revenue per 24 hours is = 144 blocks * 12.5 block reward * $150 coin = $270,000 a day

Ethereum miner revenuer per 24 hours is like $6 million.





how did you come up with t his ?

I think the money to be made here is nicehash for all the greedy hash buyers lol
1736  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Innosilicon A5 DashMaster 30.2G 750W on: November 10, 2017, 01:35:05 AM
So Innosilicon is not making it any easier for us to make a RIO on these... can't say I'm surprised of course...
They released a video showing their mining farms in action:
https://twitter.com/Inno_Miner/status/928235158540390405

It is now 3x more profitable to mine Bitcoin with an Antminer S9, than to mine Dash with an A5 (Not even considering the huge price difference). I honestly do not understand how this happened. One would think that there is more competition in Bitcoin than there would be in Dash right? Doesn't make sense...

Also, If anybody is interested, here is an image of that appears to be the Innosilicon A5. I have no idea if this is a credible source:
https://www.sbazar.cz/kerndlmichal/detail/25413397-innosilicon-a5-dashmaster-30-ghs-miner-x11

Found this seller on Alibaba that shows images of what are supposed pallets of A5s:
https://szdihao.en.alibaba.com/product/60680062639-805244449/DIHAO_INNOSILICON_A5_DashMaster_FACTORY_PREORDER_NEW_X11_A5_DASHMASTER_Miner_30_2G_750W_algorithm_DASH_X11_DASH_miners.html

Also.. RIP Antminer D3s. Sorry you were not able to make a lasting impression. You had a good short run.

At current rate it will take Innosilicon A5 purchasers ~3 years to reach any kind of ROI given average American electricity costs... Assuming difficulty doesn't rise any more by then, which it indefinitely will as soon as we all get our hands on these Sad I am embarrassed to say that I am one of these people that trusted Innosilicon to deliver as promised. Never again. I should have listened to the horror stories told about the A4.

RIP Dash miner investors.


dashmaster 30GH for 10k ?
D3 19 GH for $1500 ?

LOOOOOL rip A5 more like dash loser
1737  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3 on: November 10, 2017, 01:26:00 AM
As it seems that many people didn't pay attention to my previous explanation why MULTI ALGORITHM MINING CAN WORK:

X11 is a chained mining algorithm using the following algorithms to compute the final hash result: blake, bmw, groestl, jh, keccak, skein, luffa, cubehash, shavite, simd, and echo.

That means that EACH of those algorithms can be used for mining SEPARATELY. In fact, making them all work together to produce an X11 hash is much, much more difficult than just getting the result of one of them. On an ASIC chip- lets use 28nm for reference- there are thousands of cores. Nearly all of the hashcores do mining, while the remaining small portion handles communication etc. Now, you allot a certain amount of hashcores to do each algorithm. For example, 300 for Keccak and 700 for Groestl (it is more intensive). At the end, you want a balanced hashrate on ALL groups of algorithms (eg; each group does 20GH of their algorithm). If you have 10 out of the 11 algos doing 30 GH but the last one doing 5 GH, your miner will have a final result of 4-5 GH X11 as the slowest performing algorithm becomes the hashrate bottleneck.

Bitmain needs to release a firmware upgrade that allows mining on the INDIVIDUAL GROUPS OF HASHCORES. That means they need to modify their version of cgminer such that it is able to tell the ASIC to run calculations on just one algorithm. Then patch their other programs to accommodate the modifications. That's it. All it takes is the WILL to help their buyers and a couple of developers.
.....Or they just release a whole new miner with these changes and call it D3+ and start the whole dance over again. This is what I think would be more likely based on what we know about our friends at Bitemain.

^^
Thats what is most likely to happen lol

I dont understand all the buthurt here, I guess mining at razor thing margins since 2013 has hardened me to these type of issues.

Right now 1 D3 makes around $5 a day after .10 cents power cost, even with more hash coming online at $2.50 a day it will stil pay for itself in 14 months at the $1500 I paid with shipping , I suspect I will sell it along time before that

1738  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: What minimum fan speed do you set your GPU rigs to? on: November 10, 2017, 01:21:46 AM
I run mine at 90% all the time. I'd much rather have to replace some cheap fans on my GPU than the chip itself. Also, it helps disperse heat faster which in turn keeps the surrounding area cooler. However, the profitability of a GPU mining rig will most likely drop off long before there there's any issues with the hardware, at which point you'll probably want to unload your old cards to gamers so you can upgrade to the newer cards with better hashrate/W ratios. So, I wouldn't worry about it too much about it.

That sounds good in theory but who wants to buy a card with a broken fan, and its not that easy to replace some fans , alot of the newer cards are custom deals , not any random fan works with the screws and connections.  IMO any card whose fan dies in less than six months
to a year even in constant use need to be avoided.

All i can say is avoid Gigabyte (lower end ones RX and Asus)
1739  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3 on: November 10, 2017, 12:51:57 AM
As it seems that many people didn't pay attention to my previous explanation why MULTI ALGORITHM MINING CAN WORK:

X11 is a chained mining algorithm using the following algorithms to compute the final hash result: blake, bmw, groestl, jh, keccak, skein, luffa, cubehash, shavite, simd, and echo.

That means that EACH of those algorithms can be used for mining SEPARATELY. In fact, making them all work together to produce an X11 hash is much, much more difficult than just getting the result of one of them. On an ASIC chip- lets use 28nm for reference- there are thousands of cores. Nearly all of the hashcores do mining, while the remaining small portion handles communication etc. Now, you allot a certain amount of hashcores to do each algorithm. For example, 300 for Keccak and 700 for Groestl (it is more intensive). At the end, you want a balanced hashrate on ALL groups of algorithms (eg; each group does 20GH of their algorithm). If you have 10 out of the 11 algos doing 30 GH but the last one doing 5 GH, your miner will have a final result of 4-5 GH X11 as the slowest performing algorithm becomes the hashrate bottleneck.

Bitmain needs to release a firmware upgrade that allows mining on the INDIVIDUAL GROUPS OF HASHCORES. That means they need to modify their version of cgminer such that it is able to tell the ASIC to run calculations on just one algorithm. Then patch their other programs to accommodate the modifications. That's it. All it takes is the WILL to help their buyers and a couple of developers.

This makes sense , i suspect thats how Baikal does it
1740  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: What minimum fan speed do you set your GPU rigs to? on: November 10, 2017, 12:47:16 AM
75 degrees should be fine , I have enough issues with fans going out at that target temp let alone 60 degrees for a target temp.

Although sometimes i wonder if the start stop of the fans using the target temp is bad for them.

In my experience

AMD :

Gigbabyte - terrible fan quality 1 out of every 2 seems to break.
Saphire and MSI - best.

Power color not too bad only one of 80 cards had a broken fan

Asus - bad as well but no where near as bad as gigabyte.

Nvidia

EVGA best
ZOtac worst

the rest are all pretty good.
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