Are they all S1 ? one looks like a s3 or C1 .
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my mistake misunderstood .
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ask sidehack or NotFuzzyWarm they both do design etc and can give some kind of ball park I think . yea we can't leave out the Home miner , i think even if i didn't mine my self at home, i would agree to.
I thought they may have only worked with chips other people engineered and designed. I didn't know they too can engineer and design chips themselves. I'll give them a shout to ask some questions. I'm assuming BitFury, Bitmain, Avalon, etc... own patents on the chips they use? I ask this because a chip is made up of many layers. Many times those layers have already been engineered and designed by intel, AMD, etc... and depending on how those designs of different layers are put together, one can accomplish different things. It takes a hell of a lot of time and money to create a custom chip from scratch with many different layers. I know sidehack can, i do think notto can by the way he has explained things to others . sidehack can't afford it he said or he'd being doing it for home miners,and will if some one wants to foot the ticket with no limits, he wants to design for home users, just no founds he told us, to make chips .
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There are for sure companies buying chips to make miners to sell them, good business certainly.
I wish we could begin some type of "Crowd Fund" project for all of us other than the current makers of mining rigs. I'm not sure how much money is involved with engineering and designing a 16nm chip? I'm not sure how long the process is for engineering and designing a 16nm chip for bitcoin mining? I'm not sure how much a substantial size order of the wafers for the chips would cost? I'm not sure how much the engineering and design would cost for the boards the chips would go on? Bottom line, I'm not sure how much the cost would be [Ball park figure from start to finish] to engineer, design and manufacture a 16nm rig(s). It may be that 2 or 3 different 16nm rigs could be designed and manufactured to meet the needs of all levels of home miners [no matter how small or large they are]. Maybe only one size should be made that would appeal to all levels... Certainly, we as a community, can come together to figure out a way to do this. No? EDIT: If we, as a community, are going to overcome the threat of 51% control by one company or 90% control by 3 or 4 companies, we have to work together to compete. We have strength in numbers. It doesn't matter how small or large an individual investment is. There is strength in numbers. There would have to be a minimum dollar amount on what an individual invests. The issue is determining what that amount would be. The minimum amount would basically be equivalent to the "cost" [from start to finish] for one rig. The issue is determining the cost from start to finish for that one rig out of many. The profits made from that rig by the initial investment would be left up to the investor by their operating costs when mining with that rig or number of rigs. Once the community is able to determine the approximate amount of funds needed for a certain number of rigs, an escrow account of some type can be created for a crowd fund to receive the funding for that amount. Those funds would not be touched unless the determined amount is reached for implementation. If that amount is not reached by a certain time frame, everyone would simply get their funds returned back to them. ask sidehack or NotFuzzyWarm they both do design etc and can give some kind of ball park I think . yea we can't leave out the Home miner , i think even if i didn't mine my self at home, i would agree to.
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No faster but hopefully more consistently, so better average Ghs... which is exactly what makes S3 Still useful . I wish he would come out with his version for the S5 like he said he was so many moons back. Yet to appear that i know of . cya .
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Thank you very much Mike, as always very helpful. I shall give it a try in the morning. ========================= edit ========================= Well, that was painless, and well worth the effort. Thank you very much kano, and since both the S3+ are on your pool, I hope we'll benefit from the upgrade ;p Remember, they won't run faster just better with his update .!!!!!
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PMed you for the Avalon 4.1 won't need Escrow !!! .
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tip: if you don't solo mine and pick the right pool if the Bitcoin Mining Calculator i use is right you can make with no fees or anything off the top 4 btc @ 150 th a week pool mining . not solo thu . but that doesn't take in to a count , fees Electricity etc . i don't worry much about RoI so I pay the Electric bill as i get it and the pools i use charge all most no fees at all. . but if you do solo mine any blocks are yours etc . and you only pay the net work fees that everyone pays to keep bitcoins going when you sell or use those bitcoins..
Just a thought !!! .
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something like this that's S5 firmware i use by Smit1237 there is S3 version here that does the same as the S5 version. it does some of what you want. http://smit1237.asuscomm.com:8080/nicehash/but the ftp is down atm but does come up for days at a time then down again, it may be a home server of some kind. or even be my isp being my isp . i had it loaded in my s3 one time it worked but didn't. minerlink from antminer would do it all, if they ever being it online. https://www.minerlink.com/home.htm
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hello,
is there a 3rd party tool that can provide graph of the S3/S3+ behavior ? (i've not found any in my search)
i can see what my S3's are doing from CKpool monitor page, but as hashrate seems to fluctuate a lot, I'd like to see it locally.
I'm using cryptoglance (but it only provides numbers) as M's miner monitor and Minera can do for network miners. For the 3 above, there's no history, just real time.
I'm really interested to see how hashrate and share submission evolve over time.
there is one i reread what you asked . but it's not supported anymore, your on your own setting it up . That's here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=604476.0 Miniera does store a history but i don't think it does how you want. there is a S3 firmware i could never figure out how to loud in my S3 that gives some of what you want by Smit1237. I use the S5 version. Has anyone used the balance option in the miner configuration menu? If so how have you found it on the pool side? there is a way to mine the way you want to between pool but you will need either a pi type Pc , or laptop or PC that is running a linux type operating system ; and follow this https://github.com/Stratehm/stratum-proxy that tells you how to set it up and this tells you how to set up the pool switching strategy it uses https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=611338.msg12489739#msg12489739I would ask kano also if his pool allows proxy's,i have ckpool set on my proxy list but that's encase one of my other pools goes down it will kick in.so my s5 won't burn up sense i don't use the July firmware and it's overclocked to 1.2 th . I use slashes pool and Eligius Pool Statistics ,mainly, they both can use proxy pool switching but don't on slashes it can be unprofitably or take forever to get anything because of how the pay system works. Slushes is the very first btc mining pool, it started pool mining. https://mining.bitcoin.cz/home/The S3 balance option doesn't work that great, it's like others said depends on the pool.
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what about the asics price?
no one knows yet unless you have a mill and then you can find out but your under NDA. According to what others have said . my bad You can find some thing out without a mill Punin's gotten in touch with me. There's no feasible way I'll get a million bucks but he's working on making small orders possible (if only in a roundabout way) which is definitely nice.
I trust sidehack a lot !!!. so well see .
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BTW - you STILL haven't addressed my question about how Bitmain (or whoever) is supposed to be competative to the 14/16nm gear after the halfing kills the profitability on anything less efficient. Every time i see something about the halfing and how bad it will be. I LMAO . then think how does anyone know for sure. The answer is you don't unless your god, i don't see how it going to bad other then 12.5 less coins and the chip makers will adjust and in four more years it happen again, if bitcoins are still here. I try my best not to comment on anything i see that looks negative but from time to time you can't .
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you actually trust that go for it .. time will tell if we get any i hope to eat these words well see. . as i said I heard off till now when they came with that big container and no word on home miners etc. it just seems like they only want the big bucks. screw the rest. don't try to show me different they have to. I did say that's how it's suppose to work and agree that is the way to do it, go slow we have time , but don't Agree with how to go slow . but what right to sell those earning to some one. nothing is anyone's right to that extent, right now im saving for one or two of these if they happen, not the container i have no place for it nor want one or could ever afford it and if i could afford one, I'm not so sure i would want one it might hurt the network, i do care more then about how much it makes. cya
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Where is that check box toptek? Just so I can make sure that it's ticked before I do the update.
Also I assume from the instructions above that I don't need to download anything and save it to my laptop, the "wget" line means it will download it?
Would putty be OK to use to do this update?
if you do kanos update over SSH you can't uncheck it . . it's in miner UI when ever you do a upgrade of the frimware you uncheck it for defaults to load on firmware update or leave it alone to keep your setting . you can also save all your setting to file in the same place in the UI encase there might be a issue but doing it over SSH unless you edit it off in one of the files with SSH, it won't turn off . GNU Wget is a free software package for retrieving files using HTTP, HTTPS and FTP, the most widely-used Internet protocols. It is a non-interactive commandline tool, so it may easily be called from scripts, cron jobs, terminals without X-Windows support, etc. Putty is what i use there are others . but putty is what i started with so I'll sty with it for now .i have tried a few others , but for me putty seems to be the most user friendly,. and I change it to code in my post, so it can be downloaded to the S3 and not as a link .
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What are the chances of an old S3 running cgminer 3.somethjng getting bricked if I update it to kanos version? Also if the IP address has been changed etc does the miner keep the same IP or does it revert back to the factory one?
if you don't uncheck save your setting in the UI all setting are saved or stay the same, but as with anything done over SSH, there is all ways that 1 to 3 %, if that can happen, nothing is a 100 % . There is all most no way you can brick it with kanos update , his update makes any S3 that is not broke to start with run better. not faster but better , it really doesn't change the firmware just CGminer with all the nice fixes for S3 's. Don't expect faster, it will run smother with less issue etc if there is nothing wrong with the S3 .
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Why do you think they are selling their Golden Geese?
Because it makes more money. The more of your own equipment you put on the network, the lower your returns. The first miner competes 0% against yourself. After 10% of the network, your miners compete against themselves 10% of the time [shitty metric but its a visualization]. At 50% of the network, the next miner turned on competes half against the rest of the network and half against your own miners, significantly reducing its potential income. yea if that's true , which it is, and that's how it's suppose to work but do you really think they will keep it up after they get what they want ? or even gonna do it ? or it's all BS there feeding us . The fact they stopped selling to the public at all is kind of question able after they got what they wanted then. but what rights 100% of the theoretical mining earnings by selling the rights to those earnings . explain how they have that right if bitcoin are meant to be free and for everyone ,by free I mean not under one groups control, i understand they have to make back what they put in to it but what rights. you either sell it or you don't, there is no in between in this case . and you can bet they were backed by paper money not bitcoins at some point and will be mostly from banks etc or they are Polly hoping to . KNC, all over again. but this time with bitfury, I guess the good thing bitfury at least backs what they sell so far . why i don't believe them is a blog some one @ bitfury made about things that happen to his family years ago. if he really meant it then sell to everyone no one is asking for a free ride that i see here just a peace of the pie and are willing to pay a reason able price. he didn't and they will do what ever suits them and hurt the miners . as a few others said bitmain could have sold there S7 for 600 or even less and polly sold more and made more if they could have kept up with the supply and demand at a lower price but as it stands it seems they hard a enough time even at the beginning s7 price.and if bitmain buys into this crap, were done . Sorry, i just can''t resist saying what i think about bitfury any more to much stuff seems like lies at this point . Anyway, i can go on on bottom line is we will be very lucky to see any of it, if your not rich. for the rich it won't mater to much they just get richer .I knew a rich person once before he died my mom was dating it was nothing to him to lose 10 k or more, he called it a inconvenience, left some of it to my mom, but his sister got control over it all, we got nothing, she got it all . not that we needed it .he had a few mill in assets . CYA
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I have the S3 connect to a router as of now. I have tried both the router and a direct connection to my laptop. I was typing the ip (192.168.1.99) in IE. The cgi-bin/luci screen comes up but ends up timing out and saying bad gateway. I cannot believe accessing the webGUI is so difficult. BTW.. I did install winSCP. its not that difficult try another browser like Firefox or water fox or chrome it might be a IE setting stopping it. if your able to access it with SSH then it might be IE , IE to me is more windows based over friefox or chorme which are more Linux based, if that has anything to do with it , water fox aka Firefox work better for me then IE ever did . reset IE or the network DNS but sense you can access it with SSH it may not be the network . or https://github.com/kanoi/cgminer-binaries/tree/master/AntS3do this upgrade it might be old firmware causing that time out . you can do this over SSH the above link explains each step by step, i made it shorter . cd / wget http://kano.is/AntS3/cgminer-ants3-4.9.2-94e04f6-3.tgz tar -xvzf cgminer-ants3-4.9.2-94e04f6-3.tgz rm cgminer-ants3-4.9.2-94e04f6-3.tgz cgset sync reboot cgminer-api version after the upgrade and reboot turn it off at the power then back on to be safe . other wise sense i can't see it in front of me , i have no idea whats wrong or what you might be doing wrong, i mean that in a friendly way. I'm out of suggestion.
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to be safe if your going to use a bronze 600 watt psu, i would at least use gold @ 600 watts you can use a 600 watt PSU but might have to lower the speed sense, it will more then likely will use closer to 640 or so watts .@ default speed of 350 m . or like sidehack said get a 750 watt gold or anything 750 just don't buy to cheap it might end up being worse then the 600 watt psu would be. . or what VirosaGITS said 650 will work at default speed with no really safe overclocking room,you will most likely end up overclocking it . or go here buy one of these , http://holybitcoin.com/product/hp-1200-watt-common-slot-psu-bundle/ or talk to philipma1957 he won't lead you wrong for that sea sonic . but don't waste your time with a under powered psu that can work but might cause more issues then you want and money with returns etc replacing it .
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just what are u typing in your web browser ? and which web browser are you using ?.
or how are you trying to access the S3 ?.
type this in your browser
192.168.1.with whatever you changed the last number to, like 100, 200 etc up to 254, then hit enter .
changing those above setting might be worse they look normal how they are .
most home networks have that limit or are limited to 255 devices per router, depends on the router.
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One in a closed box.
this is the results..
config interface 'loopback' option ifname 'lo' option proto 'static' option ipaddr '127.0.0.1' option netmask '255.0.0.0'
config interface 'lan' option ifname 'eth0' option type 'bridge' option proto 'dhcp' #option proto 'static' #option netmask '255.255.255.0' #option gateway '192.168.200.1' #option dns '192.168.200.1' #option broadcast '192.168.200.255' #option ipaddr '192.168.200.1'
config interface 'wan' option ifname 'eth1' #option proto 'dhcp' option proto 'static' option netmask '255.255.255.0' option gateway '192.168.1.1' option dns '192.168.1.1' option broadcast '192.168.1.255' option ipaddr '192.168.1.99' option hostname 'antMiner'
#config switch option name 'switch0' option reset '1' option enable_vlan '1'
#config switch_vlan option device 'switch0' option vlan '1' option ports '0 1 3'
Not sure what I need to look for? Help please.
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