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1781  Other / Politics & Society / Re: AI represents our desire to create God on: October 26, 2018, 02:17:48 PM
As for the simulation argument, well, we cannot say for sure as there are many things in the quantum world that are just plain weird.  Impossible to represent on the computer.  Then you have to deal with singularities that have been predicted to exist by math.

A computer only needs to compute things that are being observed... this has been known in video games since, forever

There is no reason for a video game to computer individual atoms, nor is there a reason for a simulation to compute individual atoms

We can already create virtual reality that is almost indistinguishable from actual reality, and we've only been using computers for ~40 years... how hard would it be to distinguish virtual reality from actual reality in another 100 years, or 1,000,000 years?  How much more complex will the simulations be in a million years?

What would even be the point of traveling 1000 light years to another planet, when we can simulate it right here? (probably why we've never been visited by aliens)

What physical evidence do you have that we are in a simulation?

There is no physical evidence... it is a thought experiment, like Schrödinger's Cat:

If, in the future, virtual reality simulations will be indistinguishable from actual reality... how can we know that it hasn't already happened, and we aren't already living inside a simulation?

According to the theory, there is only 1 original universe, and infinitely many simulations... so the odds are 1 out of infinity that we are in the original universe... which means the odds of us living in a simulation are (infinity minus 1) out of infinity

I'm not a math surgeon, but I'd say the odds are quite high that we are already in a simulation; infinitesimally close to 100%

Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_reality
"A version of the simulation hypothesis was first theorised as a part of a philosophical argument on the part of René Descartes" (400 years ago, long before computers)

It is wishful thinking, IMHO.  Just like religion.  Let's stick with reality, shall we?

The simulation argument is invalidated by the fact that the fundamental equations of the laws of nature do not have closed-form solutions.

The Standard Model cannot be simulated.  Look up the Nielsen–Ninomiya theorem.

This is what we know today.

Is it possible that we are in a simulation?  Yes, but the chances of it being so are pretty much close to zero.
1782  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The difference between science and religion on: October 26, 2018, 02:24:45 AM
Math is the perfect science. These fields were proven helpful in the pursuit of new innovatios, inventions, and investigating extraordinary phenomenon. There were many theories and explainations being presented by science and all of those are still theory especially in the question of how human beings were created or how life begins in this planet. But, some people believe in extraordinary things explain it through beliefs and this is religion.

Religion is the way to connect the unexplained things happened in this world. Thid is why I do believe on religion rather than science. Faith or religion is better than science. Science could not explain all things in this world. For sure this world is created with superpowers.



Religion provides answers without any evidence.  It does not explain anything. 

It conflates what we already know with what we don't know.
1783  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The difference between science and religion on: October 26, 2018, 01:25:02 AM
don't agree with you. Science and religion answer different questions: science is about describing the world around, religion is about answering the question of what's after death. if you define them correctly, you'll see there's nothing to argue about...

Except there is no life after death.  Nobody in the history of life on Earth came back from death.  Not a shred of evidence.

Religion comes up with answers to non-existing problems, without providing any supporting evidence.

But God exists... fact. The faith part is believing Him when He tells us about the coming resurrection.

Cool

Nobody cares about your faith.  It does not change a thing.
1784  Other / Politics & Society / Re: AI represents our desire to create God on: October 25, 2018, 02:15:29 PM
As for the simulation argument, well, we cannot say for sure as there are many things in the quantum world that are just plain weird.  Impossible to represent on the computer.  Then you have to deal with singularities that have been predicted to exist by math.

A computer only needs to compute things that are being observed... this has been known in video games since, forever

There is no reason for a video game to computer individual atoms, nor is there a reason for a simulation to compute individual atoms

We can already create virtual reality that is almost indistinguishable from actual reality, and we've only been using computers for ~40 years... how hard would it be to distinguish virtual reality from actual reality in another 100 years, or 1,000,000 years?  How much more complex will the simulations be in a million years?

What would even be the point of traveling 1000 light years to another planet, when we can simulate it right here? (probably why we've never been visited by aliens)

What physical evidence do you have that we are in a simulation?

1785  Other / Politics & Society / Re: AI represents our desire to create God on: October 25, 2018, 12:40:04 PM
Lex Fridman, a research scientist at MIT working on human-centered artificial intelligence, believes that the movement towards the creation of artificial intelligence represents our desire to create a God-like entity that is greater than ourselves. It would answer the questions our brains are too limited to figure out and solve problems that we can't solve.

By creating AI, scientists and researchers are learning the complexities of the human brain, which is still largely a mystery. People learn best through doing, so by creating another consciousness, we are coming to a greater understanding of what it means to be human ourselves.

Once AI is a consciousness capable of answering life's most perplexing questions, maybe we will come to worship it as a God of sorts.

What do you think?

AI will be another leap in the evolution of life here on Earth and beyond.  Water/Carbon-based life forms will be replaced by more resilient, more intelligent life forms that can evolve much faster.  Not to worry this will not happen in a lifetime of anyone who will remember you.

As for the simulation argument, well, we cannot say for sure as there are many things in the quantum world that are just plain weird.  Impossible to represent on the computer.  Then you have to deal with singularities that have been predicted to exist by math.

Religious or spiritual folks will jump on the AI simulation idea to get their fix.  

Is it true because it is true, or is it true because we want it to be true?  Ancient religion redux.
1786  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The difference between science and religion on: October 25, 2018, 12:23:14 PM
don't agree with you. Science and religion answer different questions: science is about describing the world around, religion is about answering the question of what's after death. if you define them correctly, you'll see there's nothing to argue about...

Except there is no life after death.  Nobody in the history of life on Earth came back from death.  Not a shred of evidence.

Religion comes up with answers to non-existing problems, without providing any supporting evidence.
1787  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Which is the most superior science? on: October 25, 2018, 12:19:05 PM
as you stated, we're living in a society. and this society consists of people of different values. i guess, we cannot define a universal superior science. it will depend more on one's value. for example, take a 'mad professor' who cares about math only, than take a person who concentrates on his spirit (and is more interested in philosophy) and so on. we have different characteristics, abilities and values. and each of us needs a specific science to improve ourselves

Very true.  Some of us are sane, others not so much.
1788  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Which is the most superior science? on: October 25, 2018, 11:08:54 AM
There is no science that is superior to religion

It is something that is already known by most Muslims, moreover by prosecutors of religion, the great virtue that God provides for people who study religion. The virtues mentioned in many verses of the Qur'an and the hadith of the Messenger of Allaah 'alaihi wa sallam, as well as the information from the scholars of the Salaf, to the point that Imam Ibn al-Qayyim in the first juz of his book "Miftahu Daaris Sa'adah" contains a special discussion on virtue and the glory of studying religion, in the chapter entitled: The virtue and glory (study) of science (religion), the explanation of the magnitude of the need to (study) this knowledge, as well as the dependence (faith) and salvation of a servant in the world and the hereafter to knowledge ( religion) this. In that chapter Ibnul Qayyim mentions more than one hundred and fifty aspects of the virtue of science, based on the arguments of the Qur'an and the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah alaihi wa sallam and the information of the scholars of salaf rahimahumullah, so that the discussion of the virtues of the knowledge mentioned in the book is a very complete and comprehensive discussion, which we may not find i There is no science that is superior to religion

eligious knowledge that is useful in the world and in the hereafter



Faith is not a reliable method to discover the truth.

Here are some vids in Arabic to educate you on "science" in the Quran:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILrF5Pk-bFs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQXjyuxpNdE


He has listened to all of the person's talk

 But I'm sorry I'm not motivated at all, even though that person is holding a meeting with the Quran

Have you ever watched an American TV series called Bones? The main character, Temperance Brennan, was a researcher with a doctorate at the Jeffersonian Institute, the bestseller mystery novelist, fluent in at least 3 languages, and an Atheist. Temperance Brennan does not believe in God because he always thinks logically, only believes in what he sees and touches, and considers the Bible to be a fairy tale. This figure is a depiction of most Atheists throughout the world. So smart they are, that they don't believe in the existence of God because God is just a false figure that is not scientific. Or so they think. For those who are atheists, or there are signs in that direction because of doubts about the validity of a holy book, then try reading the Qur'an. Here are a few of the signs of God's greatness through Al-Qur'an verses that can be scientifically proven

I do not know who that person is, and clearly I do not believe at all what he is talking about. It is not at all the teachings of Islam.

How do you know? You did not even listen to him?  You don't have to know him, listen to what he is saying.

You are simply ignorant.  But what else is new, you believe in winged horses and splitting moon in half 1400 years ago.

You deserve sympathy because you are the victim of an insane ideology that took away your reason and empathy for others.

This ideology can turn anyone into a crazy lunatic at a moment's notice.

BTW, there is absolutely no science in Quran.  Flat Earth, geocentric model is wrong.

You know what?  How did you determine that Zeus does not exist?  Use the same method to determine if Allah exists.
1789  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Cultural Appropriation and Acceptable Racism on: October 24, 2018, 10:48:50 PM
...
They create phrases like White Privilege, ...


I don't think the White Privilege exists.  Majority of whites are not in the 1%.

They work their asses off like everybody else, actually, they have to work harder because of the affirmative action.

Try to get to Harvard if you are White or Asian.  

Affirmative Action is racist!!!

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." - Martin Luther King Jr.

I guess that dream is dead for white folks.

What is next, segregation for whites?
1790  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are some people still skeptical about climate change? on: October 24, 2018, 03:13:33 PM
Why would anyone think that changes in climate (climate change) isn't happening or hasn't happened? It is all around us?

The thing that is misleading is the way some people have made the term "climate change" to mean something that they expressly want us to believe, when there isn't any proof for it.

Consider this. Scientists claim that evolution happened over millions of years, and that humans have been around for at least 100,000 years. Did climate change wipe out the human race over that time? No! Did each of those people die? Yes!

Go look at the cemeteries and see if people die. Go find someone who is over 200 years old so that we can see that maybe people don't die after all.

You're gonna die! With or without climate change, you're gonna die.

Climate change is a bunch-of-lies program some elite have set in place to play on your fears in ways so that they can gain control over you and your money.

Cool

There is some evidence that we were almost wiped out about 70,000 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory#Genetic_bottleneck_theory

Today, the problem is several magnitudes larger but we have the technology to muddle through and continue to destroy our habitat.

Ignorance is bliss.  You can deny it, but it will not change the fact that each year young people get their driver's licenses and buy new homes, built on farmlands.  

As more people join the pollution train than leave it, you have a positive feedback loop that nobody is talking about.
1791  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The difference between science and religion on: October 23, 2018, 02:59:10 PM
1792  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Which is the most superior science? on: October 23, 2018, 11:05:06 AM
There is no science that is superior to religion

It is something that is already known by most Muslims, moreover by prosecutors of religion, the great virtue that God provides for people who study religion. The virtues mentioned in many verses of the Qur'an and the hadith of the Messenger of Allaah 'alaihi wa sallam, as well as the information from the scholars of the Salaf, to the point that Imam Ibn al-Qayyim in the first juz of his book "Miftahu Daaris Sa'adah" contains a special discussion on virtue and the glory of studying religion, in the chapter entitled: The virtue and glory (study) of science (religion), the explanation of the magnitude of the need to (study) this knowledge, as well as the dependence (faith) and salvation of a servant in the world and the hereafter to knowledge ( religion) this. In that chapter Ibnul Qayyim mentions more than one hundred and fifty aspects of the virtue of science, based on the arguments of the Qur'an and the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah alaihi wa sallam and the information of the scholars of salaf rahimahumullah, so that the discussion of the virtues of the knowledge mentioned in the book is a very complete and comprehensive discussion, which we may not find i There is no science that is superior to religion

eligious knowledge that is useful in the world and in the hereafter



Faith is not a reliable method to discover the truth.

Here are some vids in Arabic to educate you on "science" in the Quran:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILrF5Pk-bFs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQXjyuxpNdE
1793  Other / Off-topic / Re: My Great Talk with God on: October 22, 2018, 12:37:36 PM
I think it is possible to talk to God if I pray regularly.He always guides us to the right road.

Can you ask your God to post here to let us know that he is alive?

Thanks a lot.  Much appreciated.
1794  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: October 21, 2018, 08:12:33 PM
To the pro evolution people on this forum, I would like to ask a question and that’s why hasn’t there been an remarkable form of evolution in the last 1000 years.

The 1000 years window is very small on the evolutionary scale to see any significant morphological changes.  There were some evolutionary changes in humans in the last 2,000-10,000 years:

https://www.fastcompany.com/3064907/over-the-last-2000-years-humans-have-evolved-in-some-surprising-ways

http://mentalfloss.com/article/30795/5-signs-humans-are-still-evolving

Evolution is happening right now in all species, not just humans.
1795  Other / Off-topic / Re: My Great Talk with God on: October 21, 2018, 04:46:50 PM
hi all my quora profile has been updated a lot do check it out
and still having strange dreams and still writing on quora

Can you ask your God to post here to let us know that he is alive?

Thanks a lot.  Much appreciated.
1796  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are terrorists only muslim in religion? on: October 21, 2018, 03:56:28 PM
If we think creatively and wiser, Terrorists are a form of dissatisfaction with power, because only people or groups that are greedy and unsatisfied are worthy of being called the Terrorists and not because of the background of RELIGION. Islam never teaches violence, abomination, barbarity, this is clearly written in the holy book of Islam "Al-Quran". Only people who are dissatisfied and lose their senses so forget the religious teachings that he has learned so that he lacks control over him which results in him changing and form a rebellion in the prevailing system, and the world calls "TERRORISTS"
   
Quran 5:33 Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,

Quran 9:5 And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

Quran 4:89 - They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah . But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper.

Quran 4:34 Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

The whole fucking book is like a killing manual.  Truly disgusting.




The meaning / meaning of the verse is;

 -What is meant by illegitimate months here is a period of ceasefire between Muslims and polytheists. which in any war situation is justified if the Armistice has expired / the period of the peace agreement has expired, then it is justified if one of the warring parties starts the dispute again.

-Fast, maybe in the verse it contains a deep hatred of the polytheists. but after we look carefully and carefully, the message / the real meaning in the verse is actually not. Because not only is the side of the war highlighted in the verse, because on the other hand the verse above also explains the other commandments of Allah, namely;


If Christians turn out to be hot on the title "KAFIR" and try to question it with us, then my advice is for you first; you should "self-correct" !!!

 It should be, before questioning it ... you should check if there are teachings / terms like that in your bible Huh

 And this is the fact;

 If in ISLAM, the designation for Blasphemers / Opponents of God is called "KAFIR" Whereas in CHRISTIAN, the designation for blasphemers / opponents of God is called = "FATTY SHEEPS" ,,,,, hehehehe

 Below is the title of Christians for infidels, as written in the Bible;

 1). In the Bible Jesus calls his people from the Children of Israel as SHEEP "The twelve disciples were sent by Jesus and He told them: Do not turn to the path of other nations or enter the city of the Samaritans. "

 "Instead, go to the sheep that are gone from the people of Israel (only to the Jews)." (Gospel - Matthew 10: 5-6)

 "Jesus answered," I was sent only to "the SHEEPS" lost from the people of Israel '(only to the Jews). "

 2). In the Bible John the Baptist called the Pharisees and Sadducees who disobeyed as TRAVELERS

 Mat. 3: 7 But when he saw many Pharisees and Sadducees coming to be baptized, he said to them, "You are a generation of vipers. Who told you that you can escape the wrath that is coming?

 Luk. 3: 7 Then he said to the crowds who had come to him to be baptized, he said, "O you descendants of vipers! Who told you to flee from the wrath that was coming?

 It's just a variety of biblical designations for followers, using animal names like that. Unlike the call of God in the Qur'an to his people, we often find verses that begin with: "O ye who believe", "O man," "O apostle", "O Gentiles" It feels far more polite than calling an animal call.



Even if there is a verse that mentions Jews like donkeys carrying books, even then the word "Parable" is followed and the word "like" means to show that it is not a direct calling but only a parable, in contrast to the bible that says "sheep", "vipers" even "THIEVES AND ROBBERS" vulgarly.

3). Now we look at the following Gospel verse, Jesus arbitrarily claims that all people who lived before his arrival were THIEVES AND ROBOTS:

John 14: 6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way and the truth and the life. There is no one who comes to the Father, if not through me. 10: 7 Then Jesus said again," I tell you the truth, I am the door to the sheep. . 10: 8 All who came before me were thieves and robbers, and the sheep did not listen to them. 10: 9 I am the door; he who enters through me, he will be saved and he will enter and exit and find the pasture. 10:10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I come, that they may have life, and have it in all abundance. 10:11 I am a good shepherd. The good shepherd gives his life for his sheep;

Means humans from the time of the prophet Adam until the time before Jesus was a thief / robber Huh

ah the time 'God became a slander like that?


4). Jesus also once humiliated a foreign (non-Jewish) woman by lowering herself more humbly than "DOG":

Matthew 15:24 Jesus answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the people of Israel." 15:25 But the woman approached and worshiped him saying, "Lord, help me." 15:26 But Jesus answered: "It is not proper to take the bread that is provided for the children and throw it to the DOGS."

Astagfirulllah ... I'm surprised !!!
How come humans can be called sheep, vipers?
Besides, how come the Christians really love people by using the term "BEAST" Huh

Sometimes I am confused, is this a Scripture or a Trubus magazine or a "FLORA & FAUNA" magazine?
 how come the contents of the zoo are mentioned ??

Is this what is called Teachings of Love Against Others Huh
Is the Teachings of Love or Teachings "LOVE" Huh

Now Try to Compare ...
Which is more humane among the calls / mentions of "KAFIR" by Muslims, rather than the call "BEAST" as taught in the Bible Huh


Then,,,, There is no need for Christians to deny that even in the teachings of religion, God has cursed and declared to fight God's opponents / blasphemers. And that is included in the Christian teachings themselves, as written in the Bible Verse below;

 "If someone comes to me and He DOES NOT HATE his father, mother, children, brother or sister, even his own life, he cannot be my disciple." (LUKAS 14: 26)

 From the description of the verse above, is it not in the verse that expressly contains God's statement to his people to hate / fight against the Opponents of God ("Stray Sheep"). And look, even so hard / so extreme is the teaching of your Lord to be hostile to God's Opponents / Blasphemers.

 See ; and it is truly extraordinary if until his father, mother, children, brothers or sisters, to hostile / hate them for not agreeing with their beliefs !!!

 See ; is this what is called Teachings of Love Huh

 Then compare what has been taught in Islam as written in the word of God below;

 "And if both of them force you to associate with me with something that you have no knowledge of, then do not obey both of them, and associate them in the world well!" (Surat Luqman: 15)

 "And your Rabb has commanded that you do not worship other than Him and you must do good to the mother of your father as well as possible." (Surat al-Isra: 23)

 Do Christians never reflect?

 See ... Christians should be ashamed !!!

 Why is Islam that teaches respect for Parents and others even though they are of different beliefs, instead called Religion which teaches violence and intolerance, while their own teachings are truly very discriminatory and there is no tolerance at all towards other religious followers, even called Teachings of Love Huh Where do you love Huh


 You do not need to deny if all this time in various ways you want to explain to everyone that Islam only teaches hatred. But that thing without realizing it, Christian hatred is even clearer, while the hatred that you accuse of being in Islam cannot be proven scientifically!


Focus on Islam. Don't divert the conversation to Christians and Jesus.

Islam teaches you that you need to conquer and convert non-Muslims, kill them or tax them (if they are Jews or Christian).  In practice, all non-believers and gays are to be killed first, women need to be taken and turn into sex slaves, or killed. Sharia Law needs to be established everywhere.

Those are the tenets of your religion.

Taqiyya stops here.

You should not kill anyone, period.




I really focus on Islam but you also do not need to confront the teachings of Islam which are not ordinary and not proven to be true.

Most people think that sharia law is an Islamic legal system that is full of hatred towards women, has no tolerance and the punishment is very harsh.

While some Muslims argue that sharia law plays an important role as an upholder of beliefs and the issue of violence in sharia law is only exaggerated by anti-Islamists.

Sharia is an Arabic word which literally means the path to be followed. This term is broad, both covering the human person and religious law.


Sharia comes from two sources; Al-Quran, a collection of direct words from God, and the Sunna, a summary of the norms carried out by the Prophet Muhammad.

Sharia is then also applied as fiqh or law in Islam. So, Islamic law consists of fiqh and sharia.

Jurisprudence is man-made so that its rules can be changed, while sharia, for many Muslims, cannot be changed.

Some Muslims use sharia terms for the commands that are called in the Koran and Sunna.

Although often considered a legal system, sharia also regulates beliefs, character and deeds.

The belief component in sharia law governs Muslims to believe in God, angels, prophets, revelations that come down and teachings to strengthen other faiths.

In the character component, sharia law governs Muslims to avoid lying or arrogant behavior and teach to be humble and do good.

Components of regulated actions include the obligation to pray, fast and hajj as well as social-related actions such as marriage, crime and the economy.

Some sharia laws regarding actions related to other human beings can be regulated by the state, while actions related to God (as well as in beliefs and characters) are personal affairs between individuals and God.


as long as the words are right and good there is no such thing as murder.


Your God (people who assembled the Quran in 656, 24 years after Muhammad died) tells you to kill  people and beat women.

If you agree with him (them) you are a despicable human being.


Maybe you have heard wrong teachings all this time.

  There are no people who write the Qur'an except the prophet Muhammad SAW.

 Allah revealed his revelation only to the prophet Muhammad the last prophet at the end of time. What do you know about Qur'anic nuzulul? nuzulul the Qur'an when translated means the Qur'anic verse in this case refers to the Qur'anic event for the first time to the last prophet and messenger, Muhammada SAW.

 And the people who compile the al quran are the wrong people.



Are we talking about the same Muhammad?

The Quran book was compiled by Zayd ibn Thabit and released sometime between 644-656.  He traveled all across Arabia to collect the "sayings" to put it into the book.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Quran

You don't even know the history of your own religion.  You are so brainwashed my friend.

Why historians started writing about Muhammad 2 to 3 centuries after Muhammad supposedly died?

BTW, Muhammad did not write a single verse in the Quran.
1797  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: October 21, 2018, 01:26:59 PM
Christianity spread faster in small, politically structured societies
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-018-0379-3

Their argument is supported by many historical evidence.

Historically, adoption of a religion has been mainly a coercive reality and not the result of a journey of self-discovery (of course, with some individual exceptions).

Families adopted a religion because their King or invaders embraced it (the history of Christianity with Constantine, Protestantism or Islam confirms it) and directly or indirectly forced this upon them.

Kids adopt a religion because their parents induce this, by early indoctrination or punishment. It's no surprise that most people have the religion of their parents.

While this is true, the greatest reason for the spread of Christianity is that God is bringing people to Christianity through the work of His Holy Spirit.

People often don't do it right. But since this whole world is dying - people usually don't live much longer than 100 years - salvation for Heaven is what counts. And such is what Christianity is all about.

Cool

Let me guess, and you know how to do it "right".

BTW, where is heaven?

Christianity is a myth.  Many pregnant girls in the Bronze Age had to resort to ghosts to save themselves from stoning.

We even have one today:

https://thereisnews.com/pregnant-nun-says-it-was-holy-spirit/

Ironically, the church leaders are not convinced.
1798  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are terrorists only muslim in religion? on: October 21, 2018, 08:02:35 AM
If we think creatively and wiser, Terrorists are a form of dissatisfaction with power, because only people or groups that are greedy and unsatisfied are worthy of being called the Terrorists and not because of the background of RELIGION. Islam never teaches violence, abomination, barbarity, this is clearly written in the holy book of Islam "Al-Quran". Only people who are dissatisfied and lose their senses so forget the religious teachings that he has learned so that he lacks control over him which results in him changing and form a rebellion in the prevailing system, and the world calls "TERRORISTS"
   
Quran 5:33 Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,

Quran 9:5 And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

Quran 4:89 - They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah . But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper.

Quran 4:34 Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

The whole fucking book is like a killing manual.  Truly disgusting.




The meaning / meaning of the verse is;

 -What is meant by illegitimate months here is a period of ceasefire between Muslims and polytheists. which in any war situation is justified if the Armistice has expired / the period of the peace agreement has expired, then it is justified if one of the warring parties starts the dispute again.

-Fast, maybe in the verse it contains a deep hatred of the polytheists. but after we look carefully and carefully, the message / the real meaning in the verse is actually not. Because not only is the side of the war highlighted in the verse, because on the other hand the verse above also explains the other commandments of Allah, namely;


If Christians turn out to be hot on the title "KAFIR" and try to question it with us, then my advice is for you first; you should "self-correct" !!!

 It should be, before questioning it ... you should check if there are teachings / terms like that in your bible Huh

 And this is the fact;

 If in ISLAM, the designation for Blasphemers / Opponents of God is called "KAFIR" Whereas in CHRISTIAN, the designation for blasphemers / opponents of God is called = "FATTY SHEEPS" ,,,,, hehehehe

 Below is the title of Christians for infidels, as written in the Bible;

 1). In the Bible Jesus calls his people from the Children of Israel as SHEEP "The twelve disciples were sent by Jesus and He told them: Do not turn to the path of other nations or enter the city of the Samaritans. "

 "Instead, go to the sheep that are gone from the people of Israel (only to the Jews)." (Gospel - Matthew 10: 5-6)

 "Jesus answered," I was sent only to "the SHEEPS" lost from the people of Israel '(only to the Jews). "

 2). In the Bible John the Baptist called the Pharisees and Sadducees who disobeyed as TRAVELERS

 Mat. 3: 7 But when he saw many Pharisees and Sadducees coming to be baptized, he said to them, "You are a generation of vipers. Who told you that you can escape the wrath that is coming?

 Luk. 3: 7 Then he said to the crowds who had come to him to be baptized, he said, "O you descendants of vipers! Who told you to flee from the wrath that was coming?

 It's just a variety of biblical designations for followers, using animal names like that. Unlike the call of God in the Qur'an to his people, we often find verses that begin with: "O ye who believe", "O man," "O apostle", "O Gentiles" It feels far more polite than calling an animal call.



Even if there is a verse that mentions Jews like donkeys carrying books, even then the word "Parable" is followed and the word "like" means to show that it is not a direct calling but only a parable, in contrast to the bible that says "sheep", "vipers" even "THIEVES AND ROBBERS" vulgarly.

3). Now we look at the following Gospel verse, Jesus arbitrarily claims that all people who lived before his arrival were THIEVES AND ROBOTS:

John 14: 6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way and the truth and the life. There is no one who comes to the Father, if not through me. 10: 7 Then Jesus said again," I tell you the truth, I am the door to the sheep. . 10: 8 All who came before me were thieves and robbers, and the sheep did not listen to them. 10: 9 I am the door; he who enters through me, he will be saved and he will enter and exit and find the pasture. 10:10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I come, that they may have life, and have it in all abundance. 10:11 I am a good shepherd. The good shepherd gives his life for his sheep;

Means humans from the time of the prophet Adam until the time before Jesus was a thief / robber Huh

ah the time 'God became a slander like that?


4). Jesus also once humiliated a foreign (non-Jewish) woman by lowering herself more humbly than "DOG":

Matthew 15:24 Jesus answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the people of Israel." 15:25 But the woman approached and worshiped him saying, "Lord, help me." 15:26 But Jesus answered: "It is not proper to take the bread that is provided for the children and throw it to the DOGS."

Astagfirulllah ... I'm surprised !!!
How come humans can be called sheep, vipers?
Besides, how come the Christians really love people by using the term "BEAST" Huh

Sometimes I am confused, is this a Scripture or a Trubus magazine or a "FLORA & FAUNA" magazine?
 how come the contents of the zoo are mentioned ??

Is this what is called Teachings of Love Against Others Huh
Is the Teachings of Love or Teachings "LOVE" Huh

Now Try to Compare ...
Which is more humane among the calls / mentions of "KAFIR" by Muslims, rather than the call "BEAST" as taught in the Bible Huh


Then,,,, There is no need for Christians to deny that even in the teachings of religion, God has cursed and declared to fight God's opponents / blasphemers. And that is included in the Christian teachings themselves, as written in the Bible Verse below;

 "If someone comes to me and He DOES NOT HATE his father, mother, children, brother or sister, even his own life, he cannot be my disciple." (LUKAS 14: 26)

 From the description of the verse above, is it not in the verse that expressly contains God's statement to his people to hate / fight against the Opponents of God ("Stray Sheep"). And look, even so hard / so extreme is the teaching of your Lord to be hostile to God's Opponents / Blasphemers.

 See ; and it is truly extraordinary if until his father, mother, children, brothers or sisters, to hostile / hate them for not agreeing with their beliefs !!!

 See ; is this what is called Teachings of Love Huh

 Then compare what has been taught in Islam as written in the word of God below;

 "And if both of them force you to associate with me with something that you have no knowledge of, then do not obey both of them, and associate them in the world well!" (Surat Luqman: 15)

 "And your Rabb has commanded that you do not worship other than Him and you must do good to the mother of your father as well as possible." (Surat al-Isra: 23)

 Do Christians never reflect?

 See ... Christians should be ashamed !!!

 Why is Islam that teaches respect for Parents and others even though they are of different beliefs, instead called Religion which teaches violence and intolerance, while their own teachings are truly very discriminatory and there is no tolerance at all towards other religious followers, even called Teachings of Love Huh Where do you love Huh


 You do not need to deny if all this time in various ways you want to explain to everyone that Islam only teaches hatred. But that thing without realizing it, Christian hatred is even clearer, while the hatred that you accuse of being in Islam cannot be proven scientifically!


Focus on Islam. Don't divert the conversation to Christians and Jesus.

Islam teaches you that you need to conquer and convert non-Muslims, kill them or tax them (if they are Jews or Christian).  In practice, all non-believers and gays are to be killed first, women need to be taken and turn into sex slaves, or killed. Sharia Law needs to be established everywhere.

Those are the tenets of your religion.

Taqiyya stops here.

You should not kill anyone, period.




I really focus on Islam but you also do not need to confront the teachings of Islam which are not ordinary and not proven to be true.

Most people think that sharia law is an Islamic legal system that is full of hatred towards women, has no tolerance and the punishment is very harsh.

While some Muslims argue that sharia law plays an important role as an upholder of beliefs and the issue of violence in sharia law is only exaggerated by anti-Islamists.

Sharia is an Arabic word which literally means the path to be followed. This term is broad, both covering the human person and religious law.


Sharia comes from two sources; Al-Quran, a collection of direct words from God, and the Sunna, a summary of the norms carried out by the Prophet Muhammad.

Sharia is then also applied as fiqh or law in Islam. So, Islamic law consists of fiqh and sharia.

Jurisprudence is man-made so that its rules can be changed, while sharia, for many Muslims, cannot be changed.

Some Muslims use sharia terms for the commands that are called in the Koran and Sunna.

Although often considered a legal system, sharia also regulates beliefs, character and deeds.

The belief component in sharia law governs Muslims to believe in God, angels, prophets, revelations that come down and teachings to strengthen other faiths.

In the character component, sharia law governs Muslims to avoid lying or arrogant behavior and teach to be humble and do good.

Components of regulated actions include the obligation to pray, fast and hajj as well as social-related actions such as marriage, crime and the economy.

Some sharia laws regarding actions related to other human beings can be regulated by the state, while actions related to God (as well as in beliefs and characters) are personal affairs between individuals and God.


as long as the words are right and good there is no such thing as murder.


Your God (people who assembled the Quran in 656, 24 years after Muhammad died) tells you to kill  people and beat women.

If you agree with him (them) you are a despicable human being.
1799  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: October 20, 2018, 05:17:48 PM
religion will teach you how to be a better person, they simply teach being a good rapist, you will read your bible and have some morals and things you will that is good in the eyes of God. Christianity is not poison

Freudian slip?
1800  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: October 20, 2018, 03:58:59 PM
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I've also noted that the moon is evenly lit, hard evidence the image you're seeing is a projected one. ...

Jesus Christ man, have you even look at the Moon?  Evenly lit my ass.  How can you be so deluded?  Just fucking look at it, you can see dark craters with the naked eye. 

You do have eyes, don't you?
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