$52 Usd, each L3+ now  i pay $2400 for each one and Roi still a dream remember if in USA to add 27.6% import fees and duties (more if you bundle a PSU with it I think?) this is for the L3+ I mean for $52. ...so that puts it at $66,35,,,call it what with increased shipping prices $95-$100 to the door w/o a PSU? ouch... I just got 2 S9s (ordered 1 at a time). I haven't gotten a bill for import fees, also when I got my minis in there was no fees. I was told by a buddy that it is on the bitmain website that USA orders will have a 27.6% combination of tarriff and import fees. Anyway, just what I was told. Have not looked at the site. |
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$52 Usd, each L3+ now i pay $2400 for each one and Roi still a dream remember if in USA to add 27.6% import fees and duties (more if you bundle a PSU with it I think?) this is for the L3+ I mean for $52. ...so that puts it at $66,35,,,call it what with increased shipping prices $95-$100 to the door w/o a PSU? ouch... |
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Unless I can mine my Bitmain A3 I got for $37.50 shelf art ($50 total with shipping..but taking off the 25% equip deduction off taxes due.....hey..it's a miner! Just a bad one! (note *price*) Too bad we can't just fork Bitmain A3 units for our own siacoin clone and take our ball and go home too... as an aside...I'm conflicted have FIVE obelisk sc1's that for the last 2 months were 'doorstops'..er now not so much... the crypto universe is weird  anyway, the Bitmain A3's were off the stage 2 months ago due to the NON-fork siacoin difficulty but again, got it for shelf art. (also got a bitmain v9 miner for same pricing above) so YEA! I have Bookends!  (hey, don't toss stuff at me in bitcointalk..that hurts!) later brad |
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$52 Usd, each L3+ now i pay $2400 for each one and Roi still a dream I never thought this day would come. They have to clear it because they contracted to buy alot of chips, right? That or they are just dumping what they have in their mines which they have already ROIed obviously. Hashrate is down over 30% from highs so they are definitely not making NEW units. Interestingly, the last L3+s I received three days ago, were the first that came sealed into antistatic bags. Also unlike all my other previous L3+ from Bitmain these exhausted that certain "new-electronics"-smell for about 24 hours after being first powered. From my about 6 or 7 batches that I received L3+s from, these were the first that looked and smelled really brand new. lol, ya think? I heard stuff arriving often with dust o the blades and dirty... just saying...it is Bitmain. All that stuff they announced one day and shipped the next week...where do you think it came from? B3, A3, decred etc? I like the never to ROI 7nm BTC miners they launched today. With a 27.6% tariff and import fees to the USA never to ROI within a year current or sideways BTC prices. The saying is: If you are buying ASIC equipment and hoping that your crypto of choice will pump to cover your equipment bet...you are better off just hodl'ing the crypto! I wonder how long till the scrypt pow (LTC) version is out? Also, these new 7nm BTC miners use a LIVE buss bar and PSU is attached on the side....thus no way to use all those previous Bitmain PSU and leads anymore... so there is that also later brad |
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heh, as a 'scary tale' this is also the year 1/1/2020 that Craig Wright who claims he is Satoshi says he will have access to a trust of billions of USD in BTC. whooooo spooky |
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The transition to the updated algorithm in the case of Siacoin looks more like a marketing tool for raising sales of ASICs from a single manufacturer. Configuring other manufacturers' ASICs for this algorithm and the appearance of software miners for video cards is a matter of a few weeks.
I doubt it is that easy. However, you are talking weeks...say a couple months, yeah. ASIC makers will be all over this coin. we will see. My 5 units were doorstops for 2 months, never took them out of the box. So all things are possible. Just like taking a downhill, in the snow, on a long steep 'dangerous' hill. All great fun till the end, and a thrilling ride, until, when, where you find out if you crashed and broke a leg or emerged from the heady experience unscathed...as they say in skydiving, it's not the fall that kills you ..it's the sudden stop! Chump or Champ... I will be the first to know brad |
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Fanatic isn't clear if they were hit the he 2.6% or the combo 27.6%. It would just depend on when they arrived and what tariffs where applied.
From a delivery standpoint, a shipping company would need to collect from the delivery address.
Sounds like your buddy would have collect from who the servers where for and/or potentially soak duties. Want to have timely deliveries and upfront costs, plan for the inevitable. People forget sometimes time is bitcoin too.
yeah I really, really doubt the data hall (big) is gonna eat Fed Ex costs for equipment delivered to them directly from China for customers who have rented their services and left in droves this last year, taking equipment with them, etc. But I doubt Fed Ex will eat these costs either Guess it is Lawyer time. Fun, Fun! brad |
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Again, folk on this thread have 'tried' to explain this to me before. But I'm still befuddled....so just checking... IF you have a BTC paper wallet from 2015 with your BTC and of course 1st fork of BCH coin on that wallet from the first BCH fork. AND you never have touched it. It still has its 'virgin' BTC and 'virgin' BCH sitting their patiently trolling you to blow it on girls and travel Do you have to move your BCH to an individual wallet BCH for this next BCH fork off of above original BTC 2015 paper wallet address chain to work? Or will it act like all other forks of above with riginal BTC wallet with BCH on it....and you don't have to do zip...moving the BCH off of the legacy address? Thus, does my original BTC and BCH wallet address from 2015 above act like the original 1st BCH wallet as well and no move is needed? Hopefully, this clears up what I'm asking. I assume I can leave all this alone and this next BCH fork will be included in the 'varied attachments of many dubious forked BTC coins' on this BTC paper wallet from 2015 I'd think this is the case for all those BTC wallets that have yet to move off BCH off them yet from the very first BCH fork. Thus this next BCH fork will act the same, without any action on my part. Or my 'paranoia' is justified and this next BCH forked coin off of BCH can only fork off a 'pure' BCH address..thus I'd better move off the BCH. Probably more than 50% of folk never moving their original BCH off their original BTC...that would be a lot less of this BCH forked coin in the world if the fork is off of a generated BCH wallet address only! Hopefully, what I'm asking makes sense...but use small words and pictures....for clarity...I seem to be getting 'dimmer' with age, dont' ya know. ...not that I'm paranoid..it is just that I'm very, very, paranoid. (could be worse, I could work for NASA and screw up the technical communications as I did with previous posts on this thread to me on this and everyone dies.eaaaak!..best to grovel and just ask again thank you for your patience on this I will labor to be less of an 'idiot' in the future brad |
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I heard from a buddy that data halls are being billed for equipment delivery..that is not happening...just because delivered there was NOT their equipment...
so probably court..fed ex won't eat these costs and I'm pretty sure any overseas folk that had crap in data halls overseas at the very least will just blow it off
its a mess
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Sherwood's initiative against the Elite cartel - week 2The Sherwood pool http://robinhood.liberspirita.net/ incentivises breaking up the Elite group by giving a bonus for unvoting their members. Now, 14 days later, I wanna share my little earnings comparison. Within two weeks I´ve received (rounded) 34.5 LSK from Sherwood (4 Delegates). During the same period I would have gotten approx. 9.5 LSK from Elite (54 Delegates). My profit redused in more then 4 times from last payment. What about you? Seems they cancelled bonus for elite unvote? So does that mean we add other delegates or because we are in one camp and elite is in the other camp..it does not matter?' (confused in the realm of crypto warfare...duh) options? brad |
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Searing you selling your miners for a quick profit or letting it mine till it's unprofitable?
As mentioned in other posts... I had 41% tax rate last year with 10% state taxes. Also 25% equipment deduction of gross income to boot. IF I would have been HODL on the BTC I spent on these 5 units....with 2/3 drop in BTC price in HODL mode and I JUST want to get my USD back (never gonna get BTC back) I figure I need 1.11 BTC to pull this off. As a rationalization on the 2/3 BTC drop and the above other hooks. (denial, don't ya know) I also have 1 decred miner (free for 5 800 bucks 1/2 off coupons) I can toss the decred blades out If in the trash and replace maybe with Jan 1st, 2018 sc1 boards. I also have 5 slots left in the batch one siacoin miners I have...that is 7 blades or boards...for updates As to buying the upgrade stuff, if they are reasonable ..maybe...but likely it would have to be less than $1k a board with above for me to pull that trigger on Jan 1st, 2019, with Baikal, Innsilicon, and Bitmain with likely forked siacoin units in the wind then. The $$$ made, IMHO, is just too tempting for Bitmain say. They have plants and workers and designers to keep employed. So I think it likely that they will put something out (Bitmain or whoever) by Jan 1st, 2019 for siacoin forked version. Hell, I'd bet on it. But again, this 1.11 BTC was if I had HODL'ed BTC at a 2/3 loss around my other rationalizations above (with the 2/3 groan drop in price). So again I figure 1.11 BTC is my break-even point with all 2017 drama in us dollars (never gonna get the BTC back) ...so that's the plan, for now. But WTF, they were doorstops the last 2 months, so the ASIC gods have smiled upon me again if I sell them the ASIC gods would probably be 'miffed' and smite me down. Stupid has seemed to work well so far. This entire view and post can change on a whim. I have the attention span and fear factor of a small child...but the plan so far. I wonder if their switch in the ASIC is such they can FORK again if they need to..that would be nice. (doubtful) so anyway my dubious plans for now brad |
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The cynical view of the Bcash fork is as follows:
- November is historically the strongest month. Bitcoin almost always goes up in November
- The fork date is 15 November. This is smack in the middle of a rally month
- This date is a deliberate choice. Of the 365 days in the year, picking the single strongest price day of the year is no coincidence
- We know from past experience that forks cause price rallies
- The conclusion is that this hard fork date was deliberately chosen to create a rally
- Roger Ver has excellent skills at social media
- Crypto twitter and Reddit love a drama
- Roger Ver, Jihan Wu and Craig Wright all love a dollar
- They are not the sort of guys to let a disagreement over relatively minor technical aspects get in the way of making a dollar
- They certainly do not lose money to uphold obscure points of principle
- Therefore the purpose of this hard fork is to make money, with a story line played out in social media drama
- The most likely beneficiaries of a rally are existing bag holders
- The biggest bag holders are Jihan, Ver and Calvin Ayre (who controls Craig Wright)
- The most likely explanation is that the Bcash fork is just a whale game by Jihan, Ver and Ayre to suck the punters out of their money
- They will probably have a Kumbaya moment at some point and all will be forgotten, after they have lined their pockets
- Because after all, it’s just a game to them
[/list] I wonder if I have to move my BCH off my original 2015 BTC wallets to claim this supposed BCH fork? Seems the kinda thing Craig Wright would do, only allow a fork off of a BCH address proper on the snapshot? (clarify anyone)..anyway free $$$ I should probably keep up on this in some manner and get an answer to this question on the fork. You'd think if legit it would be mentioned someplace as a yea or nay...but not a lot of clarity in all this thanks off topic (kinda) but this crap is hanging like barnacles off my BTC blockchain...best to know I guess brad I spent all of my BCH, lived like a King for a year & absolutely loved it. Any way....I still have the private keys from my old BITCOIN addresses that I claimed the BCH from. Quick question - Can you still claim the new BCH fork coins from the old BITCOIN private keys or will it only be from BCH addresses/keys? good question don't know but gonna ask my boy as well...... (you wanna extend another year of living as a KING  ) There is no way you are getting forked bcash unless your bcash are still at the address at the time of the fork. That is forkening 101. So if you spent your bcash from old bitcoin addresses, then you not getting nuttin. On the other hand, if you moved your bitcoin from the old addresses, but you never claimed your bcash from those old addresses, then those old addresses would be bcash fork eligible. ok..so i never have taken any BCH ...I have 2 2015 btc wallets....i thought perhaps I had to move the BCH off those wallets to a BCH address proper for the fork to work in whatever manner. so you are telling me that if/when I ever move my BTC to another 'clean' wallet and have this old BCH wallet address from back in the day (2015) I can treat that as FIRST BCH address and this BCH fork (bcc?) or whatever would just be another fork to ponder on this now empty BTC address. i think i got it? is the above correct? again never spent any, never moved any, just sitting their mocking me in the last year by going down 2/3 (yea ...I'm a mental giant!) so again, from your post, I assume I don't have to do sh*t even if this BCH forks into 3 coins by the end of the month again, thanks brad |
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yeah...its all fun and games till Bitmain releases any Siacoin it is holding....and dumps it all in spite......bet on it Bitmain: evil is as evil does (tm Bitmain) quote of 2017 was when you referred to them as Bitmain Toaster producer lol Well as an aside I swapped my 5 $800 buck coupons to a buddy for a FREE obelisk decred miner on orders he got (yep....silly now ..prudent Jan 31st 2018) it was 2nd batch...supposedly I can throw the boards out (2) on this unit and replace them with batch 2 boards for sc1 in Jan 2019 supposedly Add the extra slot for the batch 1 units and that would be 7 'supposed' cards I could add to my 5 units of sc1 and 1 free decred unit batch 2 (2 slots) when it arrives whenever. So looking at my COMPENSATION more or less from obelisk for 5 sc1 units...maybe $150 is $750..er maybe for the lateness of shipping these.. Looking at remaining coupons for batch 1 units (1) $400 and (4) $250 so that is .... $1,400 which would be applied only 1 coupon to a board (rip off was applied to whole 2 card batch 1 units before) anyway my guess is per board So again, 5 slots extra in the sc1 units....2 slots after I toss away decred boards on the free decred unit = 7 boards. MY GUESS is at BEST the boards will be at LEAST $1,000 a board, so that is $7k. So applying above 5 coupons to 5 upgrade boards ....$1,400 toss in the $750 compensation and the = $2,150 $7,000 - 2150 ---------- $4850 for all 7 boards (filling up this 'fantasy..guess" post here) or would be $692.86 a board with shipping Anyway, not sure that is feasible Jan 1st, 2019 in that about that time BITMAIN or someone will have probably already made a miner with the Siacoin Fork info...and again..beats sia-tech to the punch.... anyway, what I get pondering...assuming stuff above Note sure if this would be worth the risk in that by Jan 1st 2019 with these miner numbers...Bitmain or other will have made a miner that also does this forked siacoin...I'd almost bet on it. So again, may be too little too late. (unless they can multifork off these asic's whenever threatened?) but bitmain will sell its siacoin stash (if it bothered) here ASAP, and or they or others will push a unit out by Jan 2019. The mining just looks 'too good' not to attract a lot of 'newbies' on a bitmain or other miner before they cut and run leaving the newbie under water and what the hell else are thes asic makers gonna make for miners huh? The have people to employ and stuff to make. Such another miner of siatech's vision could be a quick and dirty way to make a fast buck....while other crypto miners don't look so hot to make ROI wise. we will see the above is my guessing and pondering brad |
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yeah...its all fun and games till Bitmain releases any Siacoin it is holding....and dumps it all in spite......bet on it Bitmain: evil is as evil does (tm Bitmain) |
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D3 is profitable again so we've listed it. Enjoy.
what the hell are you talking about? profitable again? Are you on drugs....give me some calcs or proof.. (me thinks you lie or are in major denial) brad |
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Thank god, at least the SC miner from Obelisk can do a lil wonder. But sadly, those who holding DCR might not be getting ROI at all. Emailed the team, they say the Decred wouldnt fork theirs.
Someone should ask them if decred miner blades could be swap'd for cost with jan 2019 sc blades...as a way to salvage something from the decred miners. I got my ONE free for 5 1/2 off coupons. AS of today, I lose money turning it on and it is 2nd batch probably 1 month or more away of course, now that I gave away my 5 1/2 off coupons you can bet that obelisks will now become the next KNC Jupiter or KNC Titan miners At the time as decred miner equals the paperweight was better used than the coupons as wallpaper. But the (one) decred miner is 2nd batch a month away or more...I lose money today turning it on kinda sad for me a catastrophe for those who paid $$$ for their stuff with REAL $$$$ unlikely above..just a hope...but doubt those units can be saved in any manner compatible blades for siacoin in Jan 2019 or not brad |
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The cynical view of the Bcash fork is as follows:
- November is historically the strongest month. Bitcoin almost always goes up in November
- The fork date is 15 November. This is smack in the middle of a rally month
- This date is a deliberate choice. Of the 365 days in the year, picking the single strongest price day of the year is no coincidence
- We know from past experience that forks cause price rallies
- The conclusion is that this hard fork date was deliberately chosen to create a rally
- Roger Ver has excellent skills at social media
- Crypto twitter and Reddit love a drama
- Roger Ver, Jihan Wu and Craig Wright all love a dollar
- They are not the sort of guys to let a disagreement over relatively minor technical aspects get in the way of making a dollar
- They certainly do not lose money to uphold obscure points of principle
- Therefore the purpose of this hard fork is to make money, with a story line played out in social media drama
- The most likely beneficiaries of a rally are existing bag holders
- The biggest bag holders are Jihan, Ver and Calvin Ayre (who controls Craig Wright)
- The most likely explanation is that the Bcash fork is just a whale game by Jihan, Ver and Ayre to suck the punters out of their money
- They will probably have a Kumbaya moment at some point and all will be forgotten, after they have lined their pockets
- Because after all, it’s just a game to them
[/list] I wonder if I have to move my BCH off my original 2015 BTC wallets to claim this supposed BCH fork? Seems the kinda thing Craig Wright would do, only allow a fork off of a BCH address proper on the snapshot? (clarify anyone)..anyway free $$$ I should probably keep up on this in some manner and get an answer to this question on the fork. You'd think if legit it would be mentioned someplace as a yea or nay...but not a lot of clarity in all this thanks off topic (kinda) but this crap is hanging like barnacles off my BTC blockchain...best to know I guess brad |
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Again...do I have to move my BCH from my BTC blockchains to its own BCH address to take advantage of the BCH coin fork?
or can the stuff all sit still piled on my 2015 BTC address untouched?
(likely I need a BCH address...just double checking)
brad
you should be able to do it later with no problem as I understand. i read it won't be possible to claim the fork with ledger but i don't find info for trezor
does it more safe to deposit all our bch on binance for the fork?
electron cash wallet should recognize both node types and you can use your trezor with electron cash also http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/hardfork.htmlDid you get a source for this? I mean I think it would be just like Craig Wright to only fork off the BCH addresses of current wallet addresses...not the legacy BTC wallets that also have BCH on them untouched......it is how he rolls...IMHO. thanks I'm just paranoid...better to be paranoid and wrong, than paranoid right! (hell ..I should put that with my other motto...buy high, sell low) my life is weird... brad |
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Won't happen. Not in that timeframe. Too much resistance due to bag holders and fear of the previous dump. I resemble the above remarks. |
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well for 2 months as doorstops they 5 sc1's seem to have rebounded at
$300 a day since the fork
we will see how long this lasts or bitmain dumps its siacoin in revenge
FYI
brad
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