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1361  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 01, 2019, 12:03:39 AM
Fucking 7 day Twitter timeout for calling some talentless blue-checkmark whore a “talentless whore”. Nice to see $10,000 again. When $20,000 ? Guess I’ll hang out here for a bit. Have been having a blast on Twitter trolling the ever loving crap out of BCH and BSV supporters.

#hodl



Yeah  BCH and BSV are not for me.

I keep mining away.  Doing okay.

Coins are dirt cheap for me now about 4000 in power for a coin.

I don’t need charts for my price predictions.

20k by 2020 Jan 1

30k + by 2020 April 1

These numbers are entirely possible, but so are other numbers as well.
The path is not very predictable with a trend upwards, of course.


Well..my way of thinking is 'quite' modest from some of you folk. Not entirely logical, kinda a shorthand way to manage my fears and expectations...call it a 'template' Smiley

1) worst case scenario (I don't think BTC will ever go FULL Tulips). Would be the 'horror' of 3k BTC (about 2x Gold) has adoption that levels out, now acts like a traditional investment.

2) meh case scenario Bitcoin levels off with adoption and use to say 12k to 15k and such with adoption and then acts like a traditional investment.

Suck they might, but I can live with either 1) or 2) on the HODL vision I have on Bitcoin. (I would cry a lot though...I mean a LOT!)

3) pump case scenario, Bitcoin goes up as it has in the past in a full parabolic mode...ie 7x to 14x this current price.

So, anyway, that is how I'm looking at this stuff now, modest though my expectations may be, I still think in the 'cobwebs' or my rationalizations and fears above..the worst

odds are 1 out of 3 for parabolic. That is why they call this 'speculation' Smiley

Anyway, how my feeble/mind and fears approach the topic...somewhat illogical though it may be.

Again, any of the above, blow thru my expectations on getting into Bitcoin in 2013, so trying to go with the flow, if probably TOO mentally putting the 'brakes on'

Brad

1362  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 30, 2019, 05:56:37 PM
Thank you kind sirs for your sweet sMerits! The Goose was especially generous. I was able to reward a couple of haikus and a grapevine reporter. Now that I'm out of boring plain sMerits again, it's back to WOsMerits, much shinier and funnier!

Have been having a blast on Twitter trolling the ever loving crap out of BCH and BSV supporters.
Taking your word for it.
+1 WOsMerit for relentless shitcoin trolling.

Here’s a beautiful gif for absolutely no reason other than me being a pervert.


+1 WOsMerit for... uh, reasons.
Ah, wait, right! It's for the subtle, covert but relevant statement about shaky bottoms, of course.


The WO thread needs to make a vote on various (ahem) 'Artistic Photos' for you to submit for us to have some kind of consensus and a vote on to determine..with large amounts of photos

as empirical evidence ...to determine if you are indeed a 'pervert'.

It will be hard (ahem) to dig thru your photo archives to determine the level of your perversion, but again, in the name of Science!





1363  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: June 30, 2019, 05:07:33 PM
How does halving even matters for litecoin when charlie lee himself thinks this
https://toshitimes.com/charlie-lee-thinks-about-increasing-litecoins-max-supply/

Would it even be possible for him to make that happen? Wouldn't the large majority of miners have to agree?

If there is even serious discussion of Litecoin or any other Crypto including Bitcoin, getting rid of the 21 million limit, I will cash out to USD ASAP.

I mean, if that is the case, the jig is up and crypto is simply being manipulated like the usd currency by the Federal Reserve.

Again, I'd be so out so fast into USD.

Brad


That doesn't really answer my question, but what fo you think if LTC would increase its supply significantly?

I thought I was kinda obvious my last post. This would be as they say, " A very, very bad thing' Sad

It would be Litecoin's Death, for most folk in HODL mode, it would destroy Litecoin.

Without a 'firm amount of Litecoin' and, by increasing the Litecoin coin capacity firm ceiling on the amount of Litecoin over 21 million, well, Litecoin would be no more!

I'd dump it all on finding such out the same day.

Folks would probably then go back to Bitcoin with a 21 Million Cap on Coin. No one is that stupid to hold a pow coin, where they raise the coin cap after the fact!

This would be bad. Very Bad. Sad

Brad
1364  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 🔴 Time to BOYCOTT ALL Advertisers & Conferences associated with FakeSatoshi 🔴 on: June 28, 2019, 08:10:39 PM
the lawsuit to assign them a million bitcoins proves that he is Satoshi

Only because I am familiar with your broken trollery do I begin to understand what you are talking about. However, your leaps in logic remain incomprehensible. The existence of a lawsuit proves nothing. I suspect that Wright will actually win the lawsuit because there was never any million bitcoin trust to begin with. However, we will have to wait and see how the lawsuit plays out before jumping to any conclusions.
More likely he will not show up and be held in contempt for already failing to provide a list of public addresses and now the court is asking him to appear and explain it and why he shouldn't be held in contempt. I doubt we will see Craig in the US for a long time now.

I agree Craig Wright has gotten way too much FREE exposure on his invalid claims and should be banned on the put up or shut up theory. I"m sure I'd be banned from all

conferences for claiming to be Satoshi with NO proof. Why should Craig Wright get a pass on all this?

Not sure, but I'd think if you are right about the above and you were talking what is the amount Dave Kleiman's brother wishes? 1/3rd of a Billion dollars or some such in BTC?

IF, this was a fraud on this scale with regular financial and banking concerns you can bet the United States Government would be all over this getting Craig Wright extradited ASAP!

Because it is this 'murky' Bitcoin Cryptocurrency, well, nothing will likely happen, when, IMHO, Craig Wright bails and does not show up to court and loses this case.

Indeed, that is what Craig Wright is doing, he is playing all the legal systems in the world against each other. The libel laws of the United Kingdom to sue folk who know he is a fraud.

The United States copyright office scam filling, and of course being a patent troll in many, many countries, hoping a court case in one, has his claim to being Satoshi stick.

I dread what would happen to crypto and BTC if it was to be found that Craig Wright 'actually' was the last man alive from the Satoshi Group and actually did get access

to the Satoshi Group Tulip Fund of Bitcoin. (damn, scared myself). Sad

Bitcoin/Crypto always 'Drama' Smiley

Brad
I think he might have shown up now? I've read conflicting articles but it the public addresses were given to the court and sealed then it's due to him trying to keep it from the community. The last time he provided addresses they were proven to be falsified.

================================================================================================================================

This is from the WO Thread below, what we have so far into this afternoon of the court case 6/28/19. Along with my reply. This is a more appropriate thread for this frigging

insane/evil and utterly self-serving Craig Wright Fake Drama. Shake your head in disbelief I certainly did. Not sure if this is complete yet for today. Check the Twitter Threads

linked below by Kenzawak and CarolinaBoaado below And of course my rant. (Sorry, I mean really? If I can't rant about this asshole, who can I rant about?) Brad

================================================================================================================================


I swear to god if it is proven that this F*ckup, Craig Wight, is Satoshi...I will sell my house/car/toys/etc, etc.

Then I will go 'Full Jack Reacher' with everything I own in cash or Bitcoin and be an extreme 'minimalist'.

We are talking debit card/toothbrush/Trezor in the pocket and there is the Total of all my worldly possessions, and the clothes on my back.

That is my end game. Coincidentally, the same endgame in play if Trump wins a 2nd term here in the USA. (Good to have goals) Sad

if this f*ckup has access to the Satoshi Group Tulip Fund.

All hope will be lost, I will then travel the country, here and there doing WTF I please, knowing that humanity is doomed and live life...detached from all human silliness.

Crap, re-read above, I should probably do that anyway. Crap. Enlightenment sucks! Might actually have to 'empower' myself!

The other question I have is if it is looking likely that Dave Keiman's brother is going to win this case, wtf does that mean? He is going to get 1/3 of Craig Wrights

imaginary Tulip $$$? Or does it mean that the Estate of Dave Kleiman can bankrupt the asshole now, down to his shorts?

IF loses this case, showing he is NOT Satoshi along with the fact that he 'robbed' Dave Klieman back in the day. You'd think that Bitcoin would rebound as much

in price and Bitcoin SV would dump down in price at the same ratios when the hype was pushed he WAS Satoshi due to the copyright application.

But silly humans, there likely will be little results with Bitcoin SV price and/or Bitcoin Price. Silly humans always show 'hope' way too long with such charlatans.

Later

Brad


Added: More links from his testimony today 6/28/19.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/self-proclaimed-bitcoin-inventor-says-fortune-inaccessible

https://boards.4channel.org/biz/thread/14426951

https://daneel.io/news/-bitcoin-inventor-craig-wright-allegedly-cries-in-court-amid-10b-crypto-lawsuit
1365  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 28, 2019, 08:02:56 PM

I swear to god if it is proven that this F*ckup, Craig Wight, is Satoshi...I will sell my house/car/toys/etc, etc.

Then I will go 'Full Jack Reacher' with everything I own in cash or Bitcoin and be an extreme 'minimalist'.

We are talking debit card/toothbrush/Trezor in the pocket and there is the Total of al my possessions, and the clothes on my back.

That is my end game. Coindicdentally, the same endgame in play if Trump wins a 2nd term here in the USA. (Good to have goals) Sad

if this f*ckup has access to the Satoshi Group Tulip Fund.

All hope will be lost, I will then travel the country, here and there doing WTF I please, knowing that humanity is doomed and live life...detached from all human silliness.

Crap, re-read above, I should probably do that anyway. Crap. Enlightenment sucks! Might actually have to 'empower' myself!

The other question I have is if it is looking likely that Dave Keiman's brother is going to win this case, wtf does that mean? He is going to get 1/3 of Craig Wrights

imaginary Tulip $$$? Or does it mean that the Estate of Dave Kleiman can bankrupt the asshole now, down to his shorts?

IF loses this case, showing he is NOT Satoshi along with the fact that he 'robbed' Dave Klieman back in the day. You'd think that Bitcoin would rebound as much

in price and Bitcoin SV would dump down in price at the same ratios when the hype was pushed he WAS Satoshi due to the copyright application.

But silly humans, there likely will be little results with Bitcoin SV price and/or Bitcoin Price. Silly humans always show 'hope' way too long with such charlatans.

Later

Brad

Added: More links from his testimony today 6/28/19.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/self-proclaimed-bitcoin-inventor-says-fortune-inaccessible

https://boards.4channel.org/biz/thread/14426951

https://daneel.io/news/-bitcoin-inventor-craig-wright-allegedly-cries-in-court-amid-10b-crypto-lawsuit

1366  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Anonymous HODL Thread. Tell how kept or lost faith in HODL & SOLD.-Poll- on: June 27, 2019, 10:46:05 PM
it seems that I have become much more attractive to Women, with a simple phrase of "I've been into BTC since 2013" now. That is new.
Oh? This is good stuff?


I chose HODL sinner but I'm not as much of a sinner as you, lol.. I have never completely sold out since 2014 and didn't even sell out a large chunk last time..
I wrote this post recently and think it explains what you are getting at well..

Crossed $11,000 but the rate of price increase looks scary to me,it won't be a bull trap right? Lips sealed

Anyways I am in the profits nearly after a year,planned to sell some of my holding at the end of this year?

This can be a good idea?

Well, out of the 10+ year history of bitcoin all sells would be regrettable but a brief 7 week period that was higher than now, and likely not for long, so it's almost never a good plan to sell BTC..

I sold like .8 BTC @ $300 for an intercooler and gofast bits, and regret it..
I still have that car with that intercooler and every time I see it it looks like a $5,000 intercooler made in china..

Then I sold like .8 BTC @ $9,500 in 2017 when it looked like it wasn't going to break $10k for the first time, for a nice car I am still daily driving today, and I regret it..
I didn't need the nice car, it is nice but I could just still be driving my rusty Subaru and have my .8 BTC back Sad

So I would say no.. Unless you are absolutely starving to death it is basically never a good idea to sell BTC..

I am lucky to have what coin I still have and it is going to be very hard for me not to put it down on a new house/property investment, because I want a nicer house..
But I know if I sell @ $30,000 or so and it goes to $300,000 or whatever in the future I will deeply regret it for the rest of my life because this is my one and only chance to hold the best lottery tickets the world has ever seen..
If I sell their is no way I will ever be able to get them back..

I think I should suffer through my life of being half poor until the bitcoins are high enough for me to basiclly fuck off in a sailboat or something for the rest of my life, leave all the worldly BS behind, and then still only sell what I need to as I go instead of cash right out..
If I can resist buying a house.. But in the long term I don't even really want a house for anything other than rental income..



Basically I think it mostly comes down to the fact that I fear the deep regret of selling my BTC more than I fear loosing all of that money, whatever BTC is now or really has ever been..
I can live with myself losing what amount I have now but if I sold it I'm not sure I could live with myself knowing that I could have been set for life if I wasn't a chicken and sold it all.. I can see me in 30 years telling the kids that I used to own enough BTC to buy and sell their entire family..

Seeing the price just over $3k didn't make me stop regretting my sells @ around $9,500 either.. It eased the pain some but didn't completely eliminate it..


I got into cypto to trade.. I thought trading would be fun, and it was for a long time, but it ain't what it used to be..
Soon thereafter I learned about Bitcoin and what an incredible tool it is, or could be, for the good of humanity, because honestly I'm damn near a right wing anarchist in my beliefs about freedom, so I have really been a believer almost right from the beginning..
And the story of Bitcoin's beginnings being so fascinating and right up my alley..

The true HODL king is Satoshi Nakamoto..
He either must be an alien for real like some say, or dead, because no human could ever HODL that hard, no way...


The line above in this thread by Eddie13, really, really sums up HODL'ing for me, "Basically I think it mostly comes down to the fact that I fear the deep regret of selling my BTC more than I fear loosing all of that money"

I do believe however this process of looking at selling vs HODL'ing has a large chance of falling into the saying of, "A fool and his money is soon parted'

But then again, this is just 'magic/unicorn/fairydust/rainbow/ and gumdrop imaginary, Internet, Tulip, money anyway right? So WTH. Smiley

Your other point is Satoshi as the HODL King...I agree, if bitcoin ever did become Tulips, it will be because Craig Wright is the last man standing from the original

Satoshi Group of the three. Hal Finney and Dave Kleiman, of which both are deceased. I often think that if Bitcoin does go 'full Tulip' it will be in this manner.

Which is the great roundabout and mysterious way it has begun and thrived..that would indeed be a full circle on how it ends. Drama, it is how Bitcoin Rolls" Smiley

Brad


1367  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Music. What is yours? When BTC is Pumping & in full FOMO mode? on: June 27, 2019, 10:38:54 PM
Well, after the 20% dump after Coinbase choked yesterday and the current price of $10,900 usd, I have switched my music choices to

DUMP MODE.

Chaplin's Funeral March
-----------------------

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyFyAqLtHq8

Fickle is the mistress named Bitcoin! Sad

Brad

1368  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 27, 2019, 05:41:30 AM
Anyone interested made a humor thread about HODL Sinner's (of which I am one of the fallen faithful)

I was bored. IF you are interested the thread link is below. Tell your stories of selling Bitcoin and not

keeping the HODL faith and how long you may NOW be on the wagon and reformed! There is also a poll.

Anyway, stuff to do.

Link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159004.0


------------------------------------------------------

Welcome, All.

At this meeting you will be allowed to repent for your lack of faith in the past of the HODL faith and seek forgiveness from the WO/Bitcointalk faithful.

You will also be able to talk about your successes of resisting the evil temptation of selling any of your HODL Hoard (shudders) as a testament to your HODL Faith.

Who is first?

-----------------------------------------------------

Brad

1369  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin Anonymous HODL Thread. Tell how kept or lost faith in HODL & SOLD.-Poll- on: June 27, 2019, 05:34:05 AM
Bitcoin Anonymous HODL Meeting. 6/26/19. Call to order.
------------------------------------------------------

Welcome, All.

At this meeting you will be allowed to repent for your lack of faith in the past of the HODL faith and seek forgiveness from the WO/Bitcointalk faithful.

You will also be able to talk about your successes of resisting the evil temptation of selling any of your HODL Hoard (shudders) as a testament to your HODL Faith.

Who is first. You.

I'll start, my name is Searing.

(Hello Searing from the crowd.)

I lost the faith on this date 12/25/18 and sold some Bitcoin.

(Gasps from the WO/Bitcoin faithful crowd!).

It was Xmas and I cracked like a walnut. Holiday Season is the worst. The FUD from Relatives it was all too much.

The Bitcoin price was $3,965 and I sold 13 BTC. (More gasps from Bitcointalk/WO Faithful...ohhh.. Sinner Repent!).

I did manage to get back into the BTC hoard 3 Bitcoin. But alas, it is unlikely at present prices, I shall re-fill my my 'lost' 10 Btc into my HODL Hoard

and so I ask forgiveness from the Bitcointalk/WO faithful.

(Yea..Sinner...Repent!)

I have been 6 months and one day, 'on the HODL wagon'. HODL Sober. But now from a 4/5/19 price of $5,050 BTC price to the current $12,940.14 price of Bitcoin.

Well, that is why I"m at this meeting, baring all. (No...Sinner...No..from WO/Bitcointalk Faithful)

Yes, you all know where I am going...Indeed...

I am beginning to hear the 'Bear/Sell Temptress with her Siren Song' on the sweet release of selling Bitcoin!

(Wo/Bitcointalk faithful are fainting, making the sign of Satoshi, takes a bit to come back to order)

Ahem, it is not that I've had a true loss of faith in HODL. (No sinner, no HODL, you can be saved!).

 I am still strong, the Bear Siren Song is, so far weak at a measly $12k and I can resist at $15k,  

but being weak willed I think I will crack at $20k and have a complete breakdown of HODL faith again in the future!

(No....W0/Bitcointalk faithful....resist the temptation of the Bear Siren..resist).

I realize 'logically' that I will never mine enough Bitcoin to matter much again. It is unlikely I will ever recoup the HODL 10 Bitcoin from my last loss of faith.

I also realize that Bitcoin, is like 'Virtual Land' and the protocol of all great things to be built to the HODL Chapel in the future, but I am weak-willed. Thus why I'm here.

I know the Siren Song of the Bears to Sell Short and tempt me is coming. There are signs. (WO/Bitcointalk faithful all make the sign of Satoshi and shudder)

Whereas before I was 'scorned' at $3.2k Bitcoin prices when telling folks to buy Bitcoin, I was 'mocked' and 'laughed at' by strangers to

relatives. I now am actively pursued for my knowledge of Bitcoin since 2013. Indeed it is quite amazing my change in fortunes this year!

It is a heady taste of power! (resist...sinner...resist that slippery path says the crowd)

I fear hubris and selling sin, may be in my future. (No...say the WO/Bitciontalk Faithful ..have faith Sinner Resist..we are here for you)

Searing, wipes away tears in gratitude, turns back to the crowd.

I also must watch what I say, for it seems that I have become much more attractive to Women, with a simple phrase of "I've been into BTC since 2013" now. That is new.

Again, if Bitcoin is 'Virtual Land' and harder and harder to obtain, I don't want to sell, even part of the frigging 'Virtual Ranch' to some Bear Carpet Bagger.

So the sweet temptation of fast women/booze/popularity is calling...faintly I hear the Temptress...

(all you techno-nerds may need to look popularity up, I had no idea, thus how we had time to get into Bitcoin...but I digress...)

But anyway the 'Sweet Siren' of Success, also beckons me now. Sell some, what can it hurt, etc. Just a little bit, tell no one, live a little.

Alas, a cruel world indeed. Just nerdy enough to fall into Bitcoin in 2013. But too nerdy to resist fast women/cars/trips and this new concept of 'popularity!'

(WO/Bitcointalk Faithful..it is a trap Sinner Resist!)

But if I start selling where will it end? 100k Bitcoin and I've squandered it on fun/stuff/etc? How will I look at myself in the mirror? how will I handle the hurt?

I reject fun. I am a HODL'er we 'despise' fun, fun means I'm doing something other than accumulate Bitcoin. I would not have any bitcoin if I was 'popular and fun'.

Where would I have had the time to wrestle the demon machines from KNC? (KNC Titans don't make 'eye contact' in the Basement, they will brick themselves for sure!

All the rambling techno/crypto nerd talk in chat and posts on Bitcointalk. The loss of knowledge on how to HODL, lost to 'fun' and 'popularity' (the W0/Bitcointalk crowd nods heads)

The Bitcoin Hoard is sacrosanct! So somehow I will resist this notion of popularity and fun! (shudder)

So I ask forgiveness and again I am 6 months I and one-day HODL sober. Thank you for your time.

(Yea...WO/Bitcointalk faithful clapping... he has returned to the flock! Searing has repented!)

Thank you Searing, who is next to speak?

(Searing mumbles to self, as he steps down from the podium and to his chair, "I still think when Bitcoin hits $20k I'm gonna crack like an egg, better put these guys on speed-dial")

When Bitcoin, gets to 100k boys and girls we are gonna have to 'toughen up' indeed. The temptation will be high!

Anyway, what is your story? Have you been tempted? Did you fall from grace and now aimlessly wander Bitcointalk like a Spirit with NO Bitcoin?

How long have you been HODL worthy? How long have you not been HODL worthy? Or are you a 'dreaded' ...dare I say it....speculator! (Heresy Indeed!)

Post your replies in the thread below. Take the Poll on the thread.

Brad


1370  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Music. What is yours? When BTC is Pumping & in full FOMO mode? on: June 27, 2019, 02:33:49 AM
there is no difference between the two. FOMO or Pump, both of which make bitcoin rise. but I think the increase this time is quite normal, you know Bitcoin has just returned to the bottom. and certainly many are interested after seeing price increases from 3000 to 7000 and higher. so many are buying this time because they think prices will rise even higher.

Well at the time of the pump you don't know if it is FOMO and will retract..thus you party like the FOMO/Pump is going to go on an on.

Not logical, but hey, any massive rise in price deserves my FOMO/pump song on the hope/plan/prayer it is not just FOMO and will retreat as to naught!

Full speed ahead...damn the naysayers!

Brad
1371  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 26, 2019, 09:48:32 PM
Meh.

Easy come easy go.
I'm just wanting a little sideways time and everyone to get comfortable with the price were at.

Define: Comfortable?

Again 4/5/19 BTC was $5,050. Now it is $12,527.35. Really? Comfortable? Sideways?

I may be a HODL'er but looking back, comfortable is not the word I'd use.

I'm somewhere, I believe between ecstatic and terrified.

I alternate back and forth according to FOMO/PUMP/FUD and my own insecurities.

But historically speaking looking back at 4/5/19 $5,050

I'm anything but comfortable at sideways, a bit less terrified maybe, but not comfortable. Smiley

I suppose it could be like when BTC went form 2 bucks to 12 bucks and sideways back in the day. (I wish)

Bitcoin Price does what it does to the befuddlement of all most times.

Brad
1372  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 26, 2019, 09:42:05 PM


we bought @ 13k+ =^) reeeee
Where do they shit?

That's always the biggest problem with micro-anything. Where to shit?

Well in gembitz case it's clearly their doorstep.

This goes to show a woman can talk a man into anything. Just think how far Bitcoin would be now if it was 90% women rather than men?

Ah....wow!

Yeah, I'd buy this. Smiley

1373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Long-term plan for investment. on: June 26, 2019, 09:29:44 PM
Hy all. How are you.Do you have a long-term plan for cryptocurrency investment? What are your plans, Is it only to gain profits in the future? Or you have hope and other dreams. Thank you very much.

How I look at Bitcoin since 2013 till now. It is 'limited' virtual landscape that reflect price of adoption/apps into the blockchain/backbone of Bitcoin in determining price.

We are still in the 'early adoption phase' and below is 3 steps I use as a framework for HODL'ing Bitcoin since I got into BTC/crypto in 2013.

Myself, I see it in the framework of 10 years of bitcoin and use/adoption worldwide in countries where you hide gold in the basement for bad times.

Store of value wise.

(1) Bitcoin has adoption and uses at worst 2-3x that of the store of value that is gold.

Bitcoin will never go full tulips. IMHO, it will never go below $3k in that it as a virtual gold has a better use than gold as a store of value. So at worst

Bitcoin at 3K will go sideways due to use and adoption and grow like a traditional investment from then on.

(2) Bitcoin will pump to 10k and above and say at 10-15k the same thing. Adoption is met/use/etc and Bitcoin then grows from this point at the rate of a traditional investment.

(3) Bitcoin will do as it has done 7 times in the past go full parabolic past the ATH or even more. Because not yet even in the adoption phase yet in its store of value growth.

Also remember, I'd say 1/2 or more of ALL Bitcoin out there is owned by HODL'ers who held from the ATH all the way down to the 3.2k BTC lows. They have not sold out yet.

There are no 'weak hands' in that group of long term HODL'ers anymore. Again that counts as more than 1/2 of all BTC held at this time. They have all drunk the kool-aid.

As a result in the future, there is only those speculating crypto/BTC and newer. The last 3rd group besides hodler's and speculators are the newbies..getting in.

There is top 1/2 or more group of Bitcoin in HODL mode,  there is no middle group, they sold and bottom new adopters, just drank the kool-aid too group.

Thus, if you think 87% of all the bitcoin has been mined with increasing difficulty and that 1/2 the HODL'ers being Kool-Aid drinkers not likely to sell all and get out.

We will see, chump or champ. But for those 1/2 HODL'ers I guess about motives like myself, are in at a much lower rate, likely to panic and sell someday with BTC under $1k demise.

So with that bedrock, of long term HODL'ers and adoption/increasing scarcity of coins, I can't see BTC going below 3K ever and I think 20k is more likely than the 3k scenario.

My 3-way risk on how I look at HODL mode above. There are a lot of us at even the 3K or 1K BTC price are still doing more than well from our first foray into Bitcoin.

That is how I justify my Bitcoin/Crypto speculative investment at this time.

Brad


1374  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 26, 2019, 09:24:07 PM
If you study the charts and the confirmed data you can clearly see that this marks the end of the short-term, irrational up-trend. We've resumed bitcoin's downtrend. Like I said earlier, $15k is likely unobtainable (on any time-scale). Bitcoin will never set ATHs again. Soon it'll be clear enough to everyone in the market. 2017 was bitcoin's last big move. The downtrend will hold. By 2020 $10k bitcoins will be a dream. 2021, $1k. By the end of that decade bitcoin will be a hilarious memory.

Well, good to know where you stand. I gather you have bought and held a lot on this theory in order to capitalize profits on the way down? Or future bet thereof?

Myself, I see it in the framework of 10 years of bitcoin and use/adoption worldwide in countries where you hide gold in the basement for bad times.

Store of value wise. Bitcoin has adoption and use at worst 2-3x that of the store of value that is gold.

1) Bitcoin will never go full tulips. IMHO, it will never go below $3k in that it as a virtual gold has a better use than gold as a store of value. So at worst

Bitcoin at 3K will go sideways due to use and adoption and grow like a traditional investment from then on.

2) Bitcoin will pump to 10k and above and say at 10-15k the same thing. Adoption is met/use/etc and Bitcoin then grows from this point at the rate of a traditional investment.

3) Bitcoin will do as it has done 7 times in the past go full parabolic past the ATH or even more. Because not yet even in the adoption phase yet in its store of value growth.

Also remember, I'd say 1/2 or more of ALL Bitcoin out there is owned by HODL'ers who held from the ATH all the way down to the 3.2k BTC lows. They have not sold out yet.

There are no 'weak hands' in that group anymore. They have all drunk the kool-aid.

As a result in the future, there is only those speculating crypto/BTC and newer. The last 3rd group besides hodler's and speculators are the newbies..getting in.

 There is top 1/2 or more group of Bitcoin in HODL mode,  there is no middle group, they sold and bottom new adopters, just drank the kool-aid too group.

Thus, if you think 87% of all the bitcoin has been mined with increasing difficulty and that 1/2 the HODL'ers being Kool-Aid drinkers not likely to sell all and get out.

Then, I disagree.

We will see, chump or champ. But for those 1/2 HODL'ers I guess about motives like myself, are in at a much lower rate, likely to panic and sell someday with BTC under $1k demise.

So with that bedrock, of long term HODL'ers and adoption/increasing scarcity of coins, I can't see BTC going below 3K ever and I think 20k is more likely than the 3k scenario.

My 3-way risk on how I look at HODL mode above. There are a lot of us at even the 3K or 1K BTC price are still doing more than well from our first foray into Bitcoin.

We will see chump or champ we will see.

Brad



This is unsustainable. The price will be under $10k before the end of the year, and stay there until Libra takes over. Bitcoin is done. Short bitcoin.

Should not you avoid posting during the bull runs?

No. That's when people need a solid dose of good advice.

Cringe!!!!!!!! The shit must be really really bad, for the Central Banks to resurrect your sorry arse?

I only get paid by 2 or 3 banks, and they do it because they want me to spread an important message to protect people from financial ruin. Bitcoin is dangerous and has failed. Just look at the clear data. Bitcoin is going to trend to zero. Sure, there will be ups as it moves down, but bitcoin will ruin more people financially than it will help, so be careful. The data is clear, bitcoin is an unsafe investment and current prices are just crazy death rattles.

Well, hell at least he is honest about where his 'bread is buttered'.

Brad
1375  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 26, 2019, 09:06:41 PM
Checking price way to often and still getting rewarded with them candles. I'ma need some popcorn

Been saying from a worst-case' FOMO/PUMP price rising too fast point of view, the worst I can see myself saying is below:

"I see the price of Bitcoin has corrected from the FOMO/pump high, down to over 10k now".

Considering on 4/5/19 Bitcoin was $5,050 USD. I'm calling it all a win/ price wise, be it pump/sideways/dump as I see it as worst above.

It is all good.

Ride the waves baby, who'd a thunk this on 4/5/19...not me!

Brad
1376  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FujiCoin 3.0 | Japan | Since 2014 | BlockBid - Bleutrade - Cryptopia on: June 26, 2019, 08:58:59 PM
Now it's time to think how to change fujicoin to more useful coin
even when dev team change mining algo , even if appear MN with collateral 100 milons coins (yes huge amount)
nothing will happen . Everybody know why . We need places where we can spend Fujicoin , we need more acceptance
we need a larger community, we need more publicity, more information in social media, that's why we are here where we are
a lot of people don't know about bitcointalk, they know that bitcoin exist from mass media and al lot of them have no idea that's there is a lot more
coin's . This is a sad truth. If someone have new ideas what to do with this , this is right place to write about it .
I spoke with my friends that bitcoin is the biggest coin but there are very interested other coins too. but I can't say nothing about fujicoin because I can't show places where we can pay for goods, we can only mine it and trade it , but now market is dead.

I'd fork the coin 10 to 1 to jump start and add masternodes at the same rate as a typical KNC tian 4 cube rate. About 350mh or equivalent

Just saying I watched Garlicoin walk away from scrypt-n and KNC titans and they make FJC look golden by comparison coin to price ratio wise from mining...

but nothing in my view will change. The only thing that has changed in FJC since 2014 is the bitcoin core upgrades and even that happened after the KNC Titans came

into the scene. Without some other catalyst, this coin is staying dead. Notice I said staying dead, last I looked youbit 70 million FJC coin for sale with no buyers for weeks of any note.

As a side note, this is the only scrypt-N coin left in the universe and the KNC Titans are the only ASIC's at almost 5 years old that can mine Scrypt-N. It will have to happen soon,

so why not be daring and try something to get some of the buzz back?

I feel it is likely too late.

Brad

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1377  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 26, 2019, 05:31:45 AM
holy living fuck ... wtf, guys, guys??

I was just gonna crash for tonite and saw pump and price.

Damn hard to sleep now after seeing Bitcoin price and the adrenaline

Surge.



Definitely agree with you, lot of adrenaline this days with BTC Smiley

What you think until which price it will grow?

One of two things. 1) I will hodl too long. Or 2) I will panic

dump at a price too low.

Befuddlement is how I roll with Bitcoin pumps or dumps.

Hey, it’s a gift!

Brad
1378  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Music. What is yours? When BTC is Pumping & in full FOMO mode? on: June 26, 2019, 05:26:24 AM
^^
Okay here is a vegeta video named fresh prince of gold hair Grin
In honor of the $9000 pump where this bull run to $12.5k all started from. Wink
https://youtu.be/Md7Xa7xZq_0

Your fomo/pump music must be working. Approaching 12.9k Bitcoin.
1379  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 26, 2019, 05:22:10 AM
holy living fuck ... wtf, guys, guys??

I was just gonna crash for tonite and saw pump and price.

Damn hard to sleep now after seeing Bitcoin price and the adrenaline

Surge.

1380  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 26, 2019, 04:24:20 AM
Almost 12,300. I'm going to bed.

You can't go to bed! You need to add your fomo/pump music to this thread!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157131.msg51555482#msg51555482

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