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2161  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Manny Pacquiao stands on same sex marriage on: February 23, 2016, 05:19:35 AM
I'm happy that the entire world is giving him shit for his comments...



https://news.yahoo.com/boxing-great-manny-pacquiao-refuses-back-down-gay-034216358--box.html

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Philippine boxing great Manny Pacquiao doubled down Friday over gay slurs that have tarnished his reputation and cost him millions in endorsements, insisting God was on his side

An even more incendiary quote from the Bible was posted on his Instagram account early Thursday.

The quote read: "If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads".

The post was quickly deleted, but not before local media outlet ABS-CBN captured and published a screen shot.



http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/2/22/11091800/dave-bautista-skewers-manny-pacquiao-for-anti-gay-remarks

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My opinion on that is he’s a fucking idiot. My mom happens to be a lesbian so I don’t fucking take that shit. I don’t think it’s funny

If anyone called my mother an animal I’d stick my foot in his ass.


He's making everyone in the Philippines look like a bunch of cavemen
2162  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: February 23, 2016, 05:01:56 AM
My Bitcointalk time is up for today.
I will be back tomorrow after I watch the video linked upthread.

Just to clarify I chose the term poison in the OP to be purposefully provocative.
I wanted people to read it.

I think I underestimated how sensitive this topic is.
The purpose of this post was to share knowledge not offend.
A more accurate title would be.

Is Atheism Unhealthy?

The only reason you hear anything at all from Atheists is because Christians can't mind their damn business...

Christians keep making religious laws, hating gays, wasting money on 10-commandment statues and cop bumper stickers that say, "In God We Trust", just do be dicks... it's the Christians being fuckheads!

If Christians would leave Atheists alone, we would quit bashing your stupid ass religion and let you believe whatever silly nonsense you want to believe

But, since Christians constantly fail to mind their own business, we must defend ourselves... usually through logic and truth and reading you bible passages Wink
2163  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: February 23, 2016, 04:58:06 AM
I'm a Christian but this thread's saying that atheism is poison? No they aren't , I respect what they're belief is even they do not believe in God. This thread is just putting religion versus atheist. Why not start with your self, love one another, if you got some extra cash feed the poor, feed the beggar. Because there are atheist that are doing this. And I'm wishing one day they will change their belief that God is real.

bonski no one is saying that atheist are poison = bad people. At least I certainly am not saying that seeing as how I was an agnostic/atheist for the entirety of my adult life.

The argument in this thread is that the philosophy of Atheism is poisonous aka harmful/damaging/destructive to the atheist.

I think you misunderstand what Atheism is...

Atheism is not a philosophy...

Atheism is the rejection of the Christian philosophy...

Basically... Atheists were sitting along, minding their own business...
Then some Christians came along, told us about this God character
We read your book, but it's all wrong
End result is... we don't believe you or your book... we reject it as false
That's the end of our philosophy...

Some people don't even go that far... some people never listened or read your book, though most of us have... many were raised as Christians throughout our childhood

Atheism isn't a philosophy, it's a rejection of your false claims... Atheists don't believe anything in particular beyond, "Christianity is wrong" (really, all religions are wrong, but I'm being specific for you)
2164  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: February 23, 2016, 03:56:30 AM
I'm a Christian but this thread's saying that atheism is poison? No they aren't , I respect what they're belief is even they do not believe in God. This thread is just putting religion versus atheist. Why not start with your self, love one another, if you got some extra cash feed the poor, feed the beggar. Because there are atheist that are doing this. And I'm wishing one day they will change their belief that God is real.

The only real difference between Christians and Atheists is...

Atheists do not need to have their morals dictated to them by God... we understand right from wrong without your book

We have also read your book and deemed God himself to be immoral

Reading the bible is what converted 90% of Atheists to Atheism... if we had not read the bible, we would still be Christians
2165  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: February 23, 2016, 03:50:58 AM
There is a near endless list of Christians and Atheists debating, and there is always a clear winner

It is impossible to prove that the philosophy of Nihilism is factually wrong. The best one can do is show the consequences that result from adopting such a worldview.

That said I will keep an open mind and watch the first of your links tomorrow. Like all of us my time is limited so I will skip that other two.

Who said anything about nihilism?

Atheism is not nihilism...
2166  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Manny Pacquiao stands on same sex marriage on: February 23, 2016, 03:43:15 AM
What does any of this have to do with Manny being an uneducated homophobic troglodyte?

Pacman is renowned for his performance in the ring. He might be uneducated, but that is not his fault. He had a very difficult childhood. As a kid, he had to cope with extreme poverty, and still he made it big. Have some respect for him.

Studies have shown that the more homophobic a person appears, the greater chance they are a closet homosexual... Would you like to keep going with your homophobic comments?

Try this trick somewhere else. If I was a homosexual, I would declare that and seek help from a psychiatrist. There is nothing to be ashamed of being a homosexual. It is just like schizophrenia and other mental diseases. Homosexuals need help, not ridicule.

1) I'll respect him the day he starts respecting homosexuals

2) http://www.livescience.com/Study: Homophobes May Be Hidden Homosexuals

I was actually referring to Manny being the closet homosexual, but thanks for getting so defensive, now we know you are a fag too...

The first step is to admit you have a problem... nobody can help you if you can't be honest with yourself... whenever you are ready to come out of the closet, we will be here waiting for you
2167  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: February 23, 2016, 03:40:21 AM
Moloch that video is 2 hours long. Since I am not Catholic will my watching it really contribute to the discussion. If you truly think it will I will watch it but I don't have time today.

I think it will... it's not solely directed at Catholics, most of it relates to any denomination of Christian

Based on the survey at the end of the debate, over half of the audience converted to Atheism

I watched it several months ago, and thought it was quite informative... Atheists always have better answers than Christians

Ok I will watch it tomorrow and get back to you with my thoughts

If debates aren't your cup of tea, here are 2 other videos where Atheists destroy anything Christians can throw at them


Madalyn Murray O'Hair on the Donahue Show - Antitheist atheist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XEnj-ZVltU

Oprah vs Atheism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uk1_NSuFvQ


There is a near endless list of Christians and Atheists debating, and there is always a clear winner
2168  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: February 23, 2016, 03:35:07 AM
Oh, so Intelligent people choose Atheism and that is bad (for you)?

Bad for them. I don't really care much though I probably should.

The Catholic Church is a Force for Good in the World - Full Version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZRcYaAYWg4

Moloch that video is 2 hours long. Since I am not Catholic will my watching it really contribute to the discussion. If you truly think it will I will watch it but I don't have time today.

I think it will... it's not solely directed at Catholics, most of it relates to any denomination of Christian

Based on the survey at the end of the debate, over half of the audience converted to Atheism

I watched it several months ago, and thought it was quite informative... Atheists always have better answers than Christians
2169  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Free-Press in the West is a BIG FAT LIE on: February 23, 2016, 03:30:05 AM
1) Every person on the planet is biased

Mainstream news (FOX, CNN, NBC, etc) are all owned by the establishment... that's the opinion you will always get here


I follow some of the smaller 3rd party news sources

I like The Young Turks... I disagree with them on 2 major issues (gun control & global warming), but I agree with nearly everything else they say
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheYoungTurks/videos

I also like Secular Talk, because I'm an Atheist and Kyle is a smart cookie
https://www.youtube.com/user/SecularTalk/videos
2170  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are you with or against "the U.K. quits the European Union" ? on: February 23, 2016, 03:21:09 AM
I am in favor of the UK leaving the EU. It will accelerate the disintegration of the European Union. It will be good for the native people of Europe. The European Union was another attempt by the Germans to create the Fourth Reich, where Germany will dominate the other European nations. The Brits are intelligent, and that is why they are cancelling their membership.


I was under the impression that Germany basically was the EU...

Aren't they the only country turning a profit?  All the rest are leeches, like Greece?
2171  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Manny Pacquiao stands on same sex marriage on: February 23, 2016, 03:01:06 AM
1) If they were allowed to get married they would not sleep around so much... That's just common sense...

I have posted evidence to the contrary. Even in states or countries where the same-sex marriage is legal, the homosexuals are likely to have more than 100 sexual partners (examples are France and California).

B) Are you joking? Heterosexuals sleep around just as much... What is the number one reason for divorce?

Among married heterosexuals, it is rare. Even if there are multiple sexual partners, it is likely to be 1 or 2 at the most.

Gay guys I am friends with are no where near batting thousand for sex partners. Think this is more a perception issue.
Media may be a issue here with how they show gays.

From Homosexualities: A Study of Diversity Among Men and Women by Alan P. Bell, Martin S. Weinberg.

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83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexualities:_A_Study_of_Diversity_Among_Men_and_Women

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Arguably the best research on this subject is the General Social Survey (GSS) conducted annually since 1972 by University of Chicago researchers. For 37 years, they have asked a representative national sample about infidelity. The results have been consistent. Every year, 10 percent of spouses admit cheating--12 percent of men, 7 percent of women.


What does any of this have to do with Manny being an uneducated homophobic troglodyte?


Studies have shown that the more homophobic a person appears, the greater chance they are a closet homosexual... Would you like to keep going with your homophobic comments?
2172  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Manny Pacquiao stands on same sex marriage on: February 23, 2016, 02:25:42 AM
Here is the major issue I am having with the homosexuals. An average homosexual is not loyal to his partner, and on average he will have anywhere from 100 to 1,000 sexual partners. Even in countries where the homosexual marriage is legalized, the situation is the same. I am not saying that there are no heterosexuals with more than 100 sexual partners. But in heterosexual lifestyle, it is very very rare.

1) If they were allowed to get married they would not sleep around so much... That's just common sense...

B) Are you joking? Heterosexuals sleep around just as much... What is the number one reason for divorce?
2173  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: February 23, 2016, 02:21:39 AM
Edit:  You mention religions and sin, but the only mention of atheism is at the start when you link a high IQ to both atheism and infertility.

So, you've written a post about the evils of a high IQ, and the benefits of religions and not sinning. I have yet to see that you've shown that "Atheism is poison".

Athiesm is by definition the rejection of religion. To show that athiesm is poisonous it is sufficient to show that the world is poisonous when religion is rejected.

I have presented the evidence that convinced me that this is the case.

If you can watch this debate and believe that Atheism is more poisonous than the Catholic Church, I'll eat my hat

The Catholic Church is a Force for Good in the World - Full Version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZRcYaAYWg4
2174  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: February 23, 2016, 02:03:15 AM
I still don't get whatever point you are trying to make...

How does the fact that intelligent people choose Atheism, lead to the conclusion that Atheism is poison?


Shouldn't you trust smart people, who make informed decisions based on research and evidence?
2175  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: February 23, 2016, 01:22:04 AM

You can reject massive 35 year longitudinal studies if you wish. I am unaware of any data or studies that indicate Terman was wrong.

Proof by counterexample = black people

Average intelligence < white people
Average athleticism > white people

Not a counter example.

If Terman data is sound and can be extrapolated to the population as a whole then black college graduates should be on average more athletic then blacks who did not go on to college.

The same should hold for white college graduates and for college graduates in general regardless of race.


It doesn't matter since your premise is based on pseudoscience

1) Terman was not doing a study on whether intelligence had any relation to health or athletic ability, he only commented that it was a common misconception of his era to assume smart people were weak and sickly

2) This non-study has not been confirmed once, much less peer reviewed

3) The amount of anecdotal evidence showing intelligent people have little to zero athletic ability is staggering...

Have you met a Jew?
Have you seen South Park?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_uTVLBKJwY
2176  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: February 23, 2016, 12:54:58 AM
I see... You based it on the opinion of a single person from 100 years ago... Seems legit

I'll concede the point that certain athletics have a link to intelligence... You don't see a lot of stupid quarterbacks in football...

Quarterbacks need to think quickly, so they will always be intelligent... But, you can be a dumbass linebacker all day

You can reject massive 35 year longitudinal studies if you wish. I am unaware of any data or studies that indicate Terman was wrong.

Proof by counterexample = black people

Average intelligence < white people
Average athleticism > white people
2177  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: February 23, 2016, 12:51:32 AM
Did Adam and Eve have belly buttons?
2178  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism is Poison on: February 23, 2016, 12:32:21 AM
Those gifted with superior intellect are not only smarter, they are also taller, healthier, and more athletic than average.

Let's start with your first claim

You are claiming that people with high IQ are also taller, healthier, and more athletic

Where the hell did you get that idea?

The original studies are old and to my knowledge not available online but a summary can be found here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Terman

Quote from: Wikipedia
Terman found his answers in his longitudinal study on gifted children: Genetic Studies of Genius.[12] Initiated in 1921, the Genetic Studies of Genius was from the outset a long-term study of gifted children. Published in five volumes, Terman followed children with extremely high IQ in childhood throughout their lives. The fifth volume examined the children in a 35 year follow-up, and looked at the gifted group during mid-life.[13]

Genetic Studies of Genius revealed that gifted and genius children were in at least as good as average health and had normal personalities. Few of them demonstrated the previously-held negative stereotypes of gifted children. He found that gifted children did not fit the existing stereotypes often associated with them: they were not weak and sickly social misfits, but in fact were generally taller, in better health, better developed physically, and better adapted socially than other children. The children included in his studies were colloquially referred to as "Termites".[14] The gifted children thrived both socially and academically. In relationships, they were a less likely to divorce.[6]
Additionally, those in the gifted group were generally successful in their careers: Many received awards recognizing their achievements. Though many of the children (affectionately known as “Termites” [6]) reached exceptional heights in adulthood, not all did. Terman explored the causes of obvious talent not being realized, exploring personal obstacles, education, and lack of opportunity as causes.[9]

I see... You based it on the opinion of a single person from 100 years ago... Seems legit

I'll concede the point that certain athletics have a link to intelligence... You don't see a lot of stupid quarterbacks in football...

Quarterbacks need to think quickly, so they will always be intelligent... But, you can be a dumbass linebacker all day

Intelligent people often choose to not be athletic, and focus on being a nerd/geek instead... Jocks are not known for their intelligence buddy

Health just means taking care of yourself, so yeah, that's a gimme for smart people



Remind me again why you are on an internet forum about Bitcoin and technology... Bashing smart people?
2179  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Pope Francis asks indigenous Mexicans for forgiveness on: February 23, 2016, 12:19:55 AM
why were you shocked ? it is usual wealth for who sells religion for a living..

No. It is not usual. No other religious body or individual has this much wealth. But the case with the Roman Catholic church is different. They count more than 1.2 billion followers across the globe, including hundreds of millions in the Western nations. The Catholic population is almost equal to that of China. And unlike China, the population for Catholics is increasing.

It is common for any religion with a central authority... Prime examples being Catholics and Mormons and Scientology

The Mormons have an estimated $40,000,000,000 in assets and collect $8,000,000,000 per year in tithes... And the Mormons are tiny compared to Catholics, also much newer
2180  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: February 22, 2016, 11:55:38 PM
That moment when the tweet comments are smarter than the tweet itself Wink

+1

Nice catch

I only noticed that she spelled Hillary wrong
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