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2201  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: [GUIDE] How to Safely Download and Verify Electrum [Guide] on: August 16, 2021, 02:27:21 PM

Wouldn't it be wiser to publish those keys on separate places? For example, they could also upload them onto Google Drive, Gitlab etc. It doesn't offer a greater security if in the same place Thomas' public key is, you put the others' too, because the compromiser could just generate seven keys more.

There might be a reason behind this I can't think of at the moment. Anyway, thanks for doing it.

I don't think it's a big deal that they're all in the same Git repository.  The odds of both the Electrum site and the Git repository getting hacked at the same time are extremely remote.  If one or the other gets hacked the binary signatures wouldn't verify. 

I do think it adds security to have a couple of sources from which one could download the keys, just in case one of those sources is hacked.  In the OP I included redundant sources for ThomasV's key.  If you're in the habit of storing other people's public keys yourself, this really only helps when you download someone's key for the first time.  It would allow you to confirm that the multiple sources provide the same key, which helps confirm the key's authenticity.  Once the key has been downloaded and a signature confirmed, you should store the key locally.  Again, this is based on the theory that it's unlikely for multiple sites to get hacked simultaneously.
2202  Economy / Reputation / Re: REQUEST FOR ATTENTION OF: All betking.io Signature Campaign Participants on: August 16, 2021, 04:19:12 AM
How many people do you think wander into large forums with the expectation, "I need to be on my guard or else I will be scammed, because the forum allows scammers to stay here."

Maybe big red warning on every trading board post started by a newbie; something simple like "Scammers flourish in a free marketplace, WATCH YOUR ASS!"  That might get the job done, but then again it could get ignored just like all the other giant red warning signs.

At some point one has to accept the risks of living in a free society.  We can police our own in the hope of preventing repeat offenders, and sometime we can't even do that.  The only alternative is regulation and enforcement, and I doubt theymos will ever venture there.  Personally, I would rather accept the risks of a free forum than the alternative. 
2203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 16, 2021, 01:48:32 AM
Jimmy G is terrible.

I wouldn't call Garoppolo terrible.  He's 22 and 8 as a starter for the Niners, and that includes two losses that he started but didn't finish due to injury.  Average passer rating as a Niner is 95, which isn't great but far from terrible.  He's actually pretty darn accurate passer, even if he doesn't have a big arm.  His main faults are that he's prone to injuries and he's less mobile than Tom Brady.  For a pocket passing type offense he'd be a great addition.

I don't think it will be very long before he loses his job.  Of course it's not like he really owns it atm anyhow, they are just bringing Lance in slowly like the Bears are with Fields.

I agree.  Shanahan has never been thrilled with Garoppolo.  Shanahan is one of the most brilliant offensive architects in the league, but Garoppolo limits his creativity.  He's been salivating for someone like Trey Lance who allows him to spin some gimmicky option plays.

This guy is primed for a huge year. I'm def targeting him in all my leagues.

It doesn't matter who's playing QB, Aiyuk will get a lot of balls tossed his way.
2204  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: vareole is a scammer ... on: August 16, 2021, 01:11:52 AM
Maybe.. I kind of thought Vinsin was an American for some reason, maybe its just the Peter Griffin avatar, oh well.

Nah, his English was shit, google translated shit at that.  He said something once giving me the impression he was from eastern Europe, I figured Romania or Bulgaria.  Elmanchez once claimed to be from Azerbaijan.  I wasn't necessarily saying I believe they could be one person, just reminiscent of one another.   Both seem to possess a calloused soul.

I mean I guess its a talent to coax people out of money, but doing it 100% through lies and shit you would never want done to yourself, renders ones existence more parasitic than human.

Parasitic is great way of summing it up.  It must be a pretty depressing existence.
2205  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Does copper membership limit rank? on: August 15, 2021, 10:14:55 PM
does buying copper membership affect one's ability to rank up?

None at all.  I just turned mine on for the hell of it:


2206  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: August 15, 2021, 10:01:10 PM
And just to understand it if I transfer to you my Bitcoins you will then give me pre-loaded wallets with the same amount as my deposit?
Yes, you will receive a private-key for each chip (which can be imported on a wallet, such as Electrum).

Just to add to TryNinja's comments, the private keys you receive will have been pre-funded.  You'll get keys that were loaded at some time before your deposit was received by chipmixer.  It's a privacy feature that sets them apart from the competition, in my opinion.
2207  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: [GUIDE] How to Safely Download and Verify Electrum [Guide] on: August 15, 2021, 09:39:19 PM
Since the Electrum releases are now being signed by multiple builders I thought it was a good time to update the OP to mention that fact, and also add the following link:

Electrum Builders' Signing Keys: https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/tree/master/pubkeys
2208  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: August 15, 2021, 09:14:56 PM
Is there anything better than City splashing millions in the transfer market and then losing in the 1st game of the season? Grin

I was thinking the same thing.  Watching City lose is almost as good as seeing Arsenal win most of the time, but after blowing a fortune on a striker who doesn't strike...  Priceless.

Tottenham Hotspurs did look good in the second half, though.  They flipped the script on City, which isn't easy to do.  The whole team looked good, and that goal by Son was flawless.  It must have felt extra good for that kid after all the press had written of Tottenham without Kane.  And to do it against the reigning champs must have his spirits up tonight. 
2209  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: vareole is a scammer ... on: August 15, 2021, 08:55:48 PM
I believe him. Vareole is 100% a scammer. I think he is possibly elmanchez but can't actually confirm it.

Elmanchez is still around, he contacted me on Telegram not long ago.  First claiming he was going to repay me some day, with a story about how he lost his legs in the recent conflict between Azerbaijani and Armenia.  Just a few days ago he sent me a message asking for another $100.  Roll Eyes

It wouldn't surprise me if he is indeed Vareole.  We know he had a few alts on this forum.  Kind of reminds me of Vinsin in some ways, remember that loser?
2210  Economy / Reputation / Re: Several Accounts Misspelling Manchester City Footballer "Kelvin De Bruyne" on: August 15, 2021, 07:53:47 PM
Here you say that the Coinprenuer account is not your alt:

I'm just glad your getting to spot some differences between I and the said Coinprenuer. Its never been any alt of mine and I've got no alt.

And here you say that the Coinprenuer account will "never see the light of day."

I am banking on the fact that, the said Coinprenuer account is an account that has been inactive for over a year and some months, an account that is never to see the light of day as all ties with that account has been cut off.

If it's not your alt, how can you be so certain that the Coinprenuer account won't be used again?

I agree with you that you've shown some initiative in building your account over the last year and a half.  Maybe you can convince those who tagged to consider revising their tags to neutral, but if you're being dishonest about your connection the Coinprenuer account, that won't help you in that endeavor.


I hope I did not misspell anything in my post. Did I?  Grin

You nerver agreeed to teh deal, so I haben't bean checkking.
2211  Economy / Reputation / Re: REQUEST FOR ATTENTION OF: All betking.io Signature Campaign Participants on: August 15, 2021, 04:57:54 PM
Your ability to create flags does not impact my ability to create subsequent alt accounts and new threads.

You're right about that, but there's only so much we can do.  Scammers are gonna scam, victims are gonna be victimized.  I'm not trying to downplay it, it's a sucky situation. 

I know you've campaigned for a welcome page that will attempt to warn newbies about the proliferation of scammers on this site, and it's a noble effort on your part.  It certainly couldn't hurt, but I don't think it'll solve much.  Here's a situation where it appears that the victim didn't even register an account on the forum before getting scammed.  The victim ignored the scammers flags and negative reviews.  All those flags and tags did nothing to prevent that scam.  Had the victim registered for an account and seen a scary warning message, would we have had any different of an outcome?  I reckon it would have likely been ignored just like the other warnings.

There are many out there who's greed will overcome their skepticism.  There's absolutely nothing we can do to prevent them from being scammed, and unfortunately those are ones scammers are banking on.
2212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: August 15, 2021, 04:18:21 PM
Quartararo still managed to extend his championship lead to 47 points ahead of second place.  It was a frustrating last two laps for him and Marquez, I'm sure.  The rest of the field was tip-toeing around the track on slicks, so they chose to gamble a pit stop.  In retrospect it appears that was the wrong decision.

It was an exciting race, none the less.  For a minute there it looked like Rossi had a podium spot after the leaders took to pit row.  Congrats to Binder on the win, fortune favors the brave, I guess.
2213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: August 15, 2021, 12:02:01 PM

Now back to that short-lived lap record at the Red Bull Ring, where the hell did this young kid, Jorge Martin come from?  Last week's win was impressive, but looked like a fluke of sorts and I didn't put a lot of thought into it.  Now he's taken pole two weeks in a row, and looks good to take the win tomorrow.  It'll be interesting to if he climbs the standings and over-takes the factory Ducati riders.

I think so too. But seeing this result my mind changed. Maybe he's really good in Austria.

In a few minutes again to start Moto GP. Wink
Will Martin be able to win again? hard to predict.
I think Quartararo will fight hard to win here, the gap between him and Martin by only 0.043 seconds is very small. Maybe Quartararo can be on the podium today.

It's starting to rain a few drops, everyone it frantically changing to softer tires now.  If it's a wet race look for Miller and the Marquez brothers to make some moves.  Marc has gone with the soft compound on the rear, he's expecting a damp track.

I'm still rooting for Quartararo.  And we're off!
2214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 15, 2021, 01:57:46 AM
Garapallo is done stick a fork in him.

What do you think Belichick would give us for him?  Grin

LOL just when I was typing this Lance almost got picked then threw one to no-where.

and sacked as I hit send Doh!

Lol, yeah he is a rooky.  He's bound to make some mistakes.  Like he just fumbled as I'm writing.

It's his physical attributes where he really stands out.  Learning the offence and avoiding mistakes will come with experience.  He's obviously an intelligent kid, it's just a matter of time.
2215  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: August 15, 2021, 01:28:15 AM
Justin Fields had as good of a debut as Bears fans could have hoped for. I know it's a preseason game and we often overreact, but dude had some great plays, 140+ pass yards, a pass, and a rush TD (106.7 RTG), not bad for the rookie.

He had a rough start, a bunch of dropped balls, was nearly intercepted, lost a fumble, but he finished pretty darn hot.  He's incredibly fast for a QB, and those touchdown runs were a glimpse of his capabilities.


Lance about to take his first snap

First attempt; on the money, Aiyuk drops it.
Second attempt; gets sacked.
Third attempt; throws the long ball to Trey Sermon for an 88 yard touchdown play.  Nice.

He's looking pretty darn good for a rooky.  His first series was against the KC's first team defense.  He took sack, which is better than making a stupid mistake.  I don't think it's going to take long before he replaces Garoppolo.  Maybe the steep price they paid to get the third over all pick is justified after all.  I know it's only pre-season, and I am trying to contain my optimism, lol.
2216  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: August 14, 2021, 08:01:12 PM
The grid is set for tomorrow's MotoGP race, here are the top 5:



I was surprised Quartararo was able to set a new lap record on the Yamaha at the Australian ring (short-lived as it was.)  That's quite impressive, and definitely a highlight for the Yamaha team after some drama this week.   Looks highly unlikely that Viņales will ever ride a Yamaha again.  I wonder if there's any truth to the claims that he deliberately caused the bike to malfunction last weekend.

Now back to that short-lived lap record at the Red Bull Ring, where the hell did this young kid, Jorge Martin come from?  Last week's win was impressive, but looked like a fluke of sorts and I didn't put a lot of thought into it.  Now he's taken pole two weeks in a row, and looks good to take the win tomorrow.  It'll be interesting to if he climbs the standings and over-takes the factory Ducati riders.
2217  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: August 14, 2021, 07:05:06 PM
Bad start for me in the pool too

Lol, talk about bad starts; I have to nail the scores on both of tomorrow's matches just catch up to you.

LFC did have a good outing today, it was a fun game to watch also.  

@buwaytress,
Good start brother!

Congrats to BitcoinGirl.Club and buywaytress, neck and neck for taking the week's high score.  Best of luck to both of you.
2218  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: August 14, 2021, 06:12:14 PM
Wenger was a brilliant manager, and while I know the narrative really turned on him in his last few seasons, but he's one of the best managers to ever manage in the Premier League era, and I'll stand by that word.

I had high hopes for Arteta, and he did pretty good for a few seasons, at least securing a spot in the Europa on an annual basis.  Sadly the club has been in a steady decline the last few years, and I've lost confidence in Arteta.  Oh, how nice it would be to see a brilliant young manager take the reins.

Oh man guys, what a bummer. Another special KO'd out of the water as Leicester Wolves couldn't score in Half Time, how sad.

That's big bummer.  It was looking like we were going to win that one, would have been amazing.  Kudos to Sportsbet.io for giving us that one, it was a lot fun.


1 point for CORRECT score.

I think you're right about getting 1.5 points, but I think you made a typo in the quoted text above.  You get 3 points for predicting the correct score, and only 1 point if you predict the correct outcome (i.e. correct match winner.)
2219  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: August 14, 2021, 05:16:53 PM
almost all the strong clubs are starting this season with win.
Except Arsenal?

He did say "almost," assuming Arsenal is counted among the "strong clubs."  Quite a disappointing opening match for the Gunners.  Arteta didn't start his strongest crew up front, no Aubameyang or Lacazette.  Regardless, the defenders didn't give me a lot of confidence.  Hopefully that's not a preview of our season.

It's great to have the season finally under way.  The strong opener for ManU was fun to see, and LFC looks like they're off to a good start so far.
2220  Economy / Lending / Re: Looking for .05 BTC - 1 BTC Loan on: August 13, 2021, 11:13:11 PM
Still looking for a loan. Can provide ID and identity confirmation to the loaner and also $2,000 in collateral in items I have. All are in excellent condition and working great, high quality items. About 20 things I could send you for about $70 USPS priority. Would fit in a small tote that I could pad and also take out insurance on for an additional $20. Message me for more information or for a list of the items if you are interested. Also let me know the APR you are looking for I am willing to do up to an 30% APR for $2,000 and lower and up to a 15% APR for $3,000 - $9,999. Anything over $10,000 I would do a 5% or lower APR depending on the amount!

No one will lend you $2000 for a bunch of worthless junk as collateral, and you're certainly not getting $10k or more.

Also to everyone posting, no I am not a scammer and I have posted collateral for this loan. You can take off your negative feedback now, thank you.

No you haven't, and no I think I'll keep mine in place, thank you.

Please remove my negative feedback as the "rule" for collateral is not even a rule anyway it is just a suggestion that is why it says in the title of the "collateral thread" "IGNORE AT YOUR OWN RISK" - there is no actual forum rule stating that you have to provide collateral to receive a loan.

There's no forum rule about posting feedback either.

By the way, is the collateral you're offering the same $2000 worth of junk you're trying to trade for a $3000 car?

You seem to have a very tenuous grasp on reality.
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