Who here's given up on Ferrari? Or rather, Leclerc anyway? Put in almost mindless picks last night for the weekend, home favourite will surely pull out all the stops here so put him as my pick for Pole and Winner -- but did relent and give fastest lap to Sainz (so I already have a shitty start heh).
Sort of agree with Russell, Hamilton looks jaded and out of sorts as soon as he no longer has the cushion confidence he had all his years.
I had put Leclerc out of this race but from the looks of it he will finish third with one lap left to go. Verstappen is on fire and will win in his home country. Hard to bet against Verstappen when everything seems to work in his favor from both FIA but also the other cars or drivers from Alpha Tauri. This race was over as soon as Alpha Tauri mechanics decide to re-introduce Yuki to race with a broken car when they knew well that something is broken... . Anyway , for me Russel is the driver of the day and I'm ashamed as Ferrari fan that once again this team let us down  . Give them some credit, it's not really just about the stroke of luck. Max Verstappen and Red Bull are really the best driver and the best team on the grid right now. So yeah, it's def really hard to bet against them this season. I mean if we're being honest with ourselves, who could come close against Red Bull? Ferrari? Lol, not with that team. Mercedes? Not with that car. And did we forget about the race when Verstappen started at P10 or something and still won? |
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This safety car changed everything, Max will probably win but it should be a fun ending to watch.
I was disappointed in how the race ended. I mean sure I'm glad to see Verstappen win as I'm rooting for Red Bull but I felt like if only Hamilton switched to the softs too he would've had a fighting chance to win the race imho. In the years prior I would have laughed hearing Hamilton complain on team radio but not this one. Anyway just for completeness sake for the thread... Here are the results. 2022 F1 Dutch GP Race ResultsMax Verstappen NED Oracle Red Bull Racing 72 Laps 2 George Russell GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team + 4.071s 3 Charles Leclerc MON Scuderia Ferrari + 10.929s 4 Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team + 13.016s 5 Sergio Perez MEX Oracle Bull Racing + 18.168s 6 Fernando Alonso ESP BWT Alpine F1 Team + 18.754s 7 Lando Norris GBR McLaren F1 Team + 19.306s 8 Carlos Sainz ESP Scuderia Ferrari + 20.916s 9 Esteban Ocon FRA BWT Alpine F1 Team + 21.117s 10 Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team + 22.459s 11 Pierre Gasly FRA Scuderia AlphaTauri + 27.009s 12 Alexander Albon THA Williams Racing + 30.390s 13 Mick Schumacher GER Haas F1 Team + 32.995s 14 Sebastian Vettel GER Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team + 36.007s 15 Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas F1 Team + 36.869s 16 Guanyu Zhou CHN Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen + 37.320s 17 Daniel Ricciardo AUS McLaren F1 Team + 37.764s 18 Nicholas Latifi CAN Williams Racing + 1 Lap Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen DNF Yuki Tsunoda JPN Scuderia AlphaTauri |
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Tai really showed he belonged there, I know he's been doubted his whole career pretty much, but he very nearly knocked out Gane himself. Obviously, he didn't like those body shots, and that was the beginning of the end. You could see it, he dropped his hands, and was on his last legs after taking a couple more in the third round. If he can learn from that, and protect that midsection or strengthen it somewhat, I'd actually fancy him against Gane next time. Gane was good obviously, but I was more impressed with Tai.
Also, Nathanial Wood was awesome, fair play to him. Vettori pretty much got outclassed, and it does seem like Izzy, and Whittaker are in a division of their own, since there's no one else really competing.
Yeah, I had a slight lean for Whitaker but I didn't expect him to look all really good for the whole three rounds. I really thought Vettori could steal a round. The line wasn't a misread by The books. They really got it right. Lol. And same with Buckley... I thought it would be close too. I think Tuivasa belongs to the UFC HW top 10 but not at top 5. So what's next for him... I think he'll be matched up with Tom Aspinall who's another excellent fighter. Aspinall could finish him in two rounds imho. |
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Yeah, I'll be making a cheeky little bet on Vettori just for his wrestling ability if can get Whittaker down, and down early I think he'll see a lot of success. Probably be a boring fight for those that want to see some striking action, but the best path to victory for Vettori would be the lay, and pray tactic, while doing occasional damage to really put a stamp on things.
Here's my predictions:
Ciryl Gane
Marvin Vettori
Roman Kopylov
John Makdessi
Jarno Errens
Charles Jourdain
Abusupiyan Magomedov
Nassourdine Imavov
Michal Figlak
Cristian Quiñonez
Ailin Perez
Seriously, there's a lot of fights here which is a toss up for me. I'll be staying away from a lot of these fights in terms of betting. My favourites to get the job done would be Gane, Vettori, Magomedov, and Nassourdine Imavov.
I really like the underdog picks. I'd include Buckley and Wood in there too. Lol. But yeah I avoided making my lottery ticket as this card smells like pie shitter everywhere. And I'm kinda lazy doing it if I'm not betting it. I just have a small bet on the over 2.5 for the main event and Gane to win at R4 and same bet at R5. The line on Vettori is tempting but I'll just pass and save it for the next event. Weigh in results, everybody made weight. Ciryl Gane (247) vs Tai Tuivasa (266) Marvin Vettori (186) vs Robert Whittaker (186) Alessio Di Chirico (186) vs Roman Kopylov (186) Nasrat Haqparast (155) vs John Makdessi (154.5) Jarno Errens (146) vs William Gomis (146) Charles Jourdain (145.5) vs Nathaniel Wood (146) Abusupiyan Magomedov (186) vs Dustin Stoltzfus (186) Michal Figlak (156) vs Fares Ziam (156) Joaquin Buckley (186) vs Nassourdine Imavov (186) Gabriel Miranda (155.5) vs Benoit Saint-Denis (156) Christian Quinonez (136) vs Khalid Taha (135) Stephanie Egger (145) vs Ailin Perez (144.5) Enjoy the event guys. |
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1 Charles Leclerc MON Scuderia Ferrari 1m11.632s 2 George Russell GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team 1m11.698s 3 Max Verstappen NED Oracle Red Bull Racing 1m11.793s 4 Carlos Sainz ESP Scuderia Ferrari 1m11.971s 5 Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team 1m12.156s 6 Sergio Perez MEX Oracle Red Bull Racing 1m12.176s 7 Fernando Alonso ESP BWT Alpine F1 Team 1m12.327s 8 Sebastian Vettel GER Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team 1m12.491s 9 Mick Schumacher GER Haas F1 Team 1m12.558s 10 Lando Norris GBR McLaren F1 Team 1m12.591s 11 Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas F1 Team 1m12.606s 12 Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team 1m12.773s 13 Alexander Albon THA Williams Racing 1m12.775s 14 Esteban Ocon FRA BWT Alpine F1 Team 1m13.003s 15 Pierre Gasly FRA Scuderia AlphaTauri 1m13.046s 16 Yuki Tsunoda JPN Scuderia AlphaTauri 1m13.276s 17 Daniel Ricciardo AUS McLaren F1 Team 1m13.299s 18 Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen 1m13.359s 19 Guanyu Zhou CHN Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen 1m13.421s 20 Nicholas Latifi CAN Williams Racing 1m13.625s Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1011373/1/f1-2022-dutch-grand-prix-free-practice-results-3As predicted by simulations, the team with the biggest improvement by the new FIA rule is Mercedes. That's good. We need a little more excitement for the season. I mean after the season we had last year, this one is starting to get really stale with Verstappen starting to crank things up and dominate. And there's an audio of Ricciardo's talk with his engineer over the radio and he he said something like his car feels like a bag of dicks. Lol. He's mentally done for the season imo. Sad to see him go if no other team is willing to acquire him next season. And according to Horner, Ricciardo isn't the same guy he used to be. The bubble personality is gone... |
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^ Yeah.. I didn't see the goal as I was replying to Welsh with the post below. But it looks like there's VAR. Edit: Ah... Offside. My bet is still good. Lmao. Thanks refs. What's wrong with Klopp's boys? Seems like they're playing like they're against Man United or something. I didn't think this derby would be very intense but it is rn.  And what's the matter with the ref? There's like a couple of fouls on Liverpool that didn't get a call.. There should've been a free kick for Everton around the 20th minute. Edit: Omg... Everton might get a goal in with how the match is playing out. :/ Not good for me. At this rate, three's going to be multiple injuries. That's the problem with letting the game run, it basically gets harder, and harder until the ref puts his foot down. Now we've already got one injury with Fabio. As for our performances, I know we've got injuries, but we should be performing better than we're. So, honestly I'm really not sure why we just aren't up to our usual standards. I was quite excited about that young midfield, but I guess in a physical game like derby you want more robust players than Fabio, and Elliott, although the latter of the two is having a decent game. I feel like we're missing Robertson in this game, and obviously Thiago for unlocking defenses. ^ It's not about the injuries or who's missing. It's just I feel like Liverpool is playing angry out there or uptight. I can't quite put my finger on it but judging from optics alone, they didn't look good in the first half. The second half is much better... And OMG OOOOOOMMMGGG Everton just scored one in. Edit: Anyway, yeah... I was also about to say that Everton have their moments in the match too. Edit: That was red imho. Edit: Oh Salah is on the pitch. I didn't see him. |
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What's wrong with Klopp's boys? Seems like they're playing like they're against Man United or something. I didn't think this derby would be very intense but it is rn. And what's the matter with the ref? There's like a couple of fouls on Liverpool that didn't get a call.. There should've been a free kick for Everton around the 20th minute. Edit: Omg... Everton might get a goal in with how the match is playing out. :/ Not good for me. |
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It is going to be a sea of orange in the Netherlands all weekend long.
Verstappen did only 7 laps and had gearbox broken, so I guess there was a big disappointment to see him just for 10 minutes. Second practice starts in 20 minutes, I hope this time it will go much better. Regarding the discussion about primary & secondary drivers - do you think Hamilton is still driver no 1? Do they have "the same" cars? Hamilton is still one of the best drivers on the grid imho, if not the best if given a competitive car. But it's now close between him and Verstappen. Although in a couple of years I think Verstappen is going to dominate the sport. He's better than most of the top drivers on the grind, he's still developing and has a higher ceiling with him just around 24 - 25 years old..? If you think Hamilton is a generational talent, you gotta watch Verstappen. He's going to be like the Messi of F1. We haven't really seen what he's capable of. He could break records that Vettel made with Red Bull... Exciting times for F1. |
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^ Yeah but it's a lottery ticket. It has to be all the match ups included. But yeah.. I'll prolly just put Gane not at the top but around the second or third tier of the ticket. And I wouldn't be putting value plays at the third and up either. And those 50/50 match ups just like Aldo vs the wrestler Merab with the unspellable last name. But I'm glad I chose Aldo as it would've hurt more if I chose the other guy only to lose it all with Usman. And Whitaker should win but the line sucks. Vettori could steal a round imho. The line should be closer. |
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1 George Russell GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team 1m12.455s 2 Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team 1m12.695s 3 Carlos Sainz ESP Scuderia Ferrari 1m12.845s 4 Lando Norris GBR McLaren F1 Team 1m12.929s 5 Daniel Ricciardo AUS McLaren F1 Team 1m13.077s 6 Charles Leclerc MON Scuderia Ferrari 1m13.127s 7 Sergio Perez MEX Oracle Red Bull Racing 1m13.416s 8 Fernando Alonso ESP BWT Alpine F1 Team 1m13.633s 9 Esteban Ocon FRA BWT Alpine F1 Team 1m13.963s 10 Alexander Albon THA Williams Racing 1m14.063s 11 Mick Schumacher GER Haas F1 Team 1m14.163s 12 Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team 1m14.257s 13 Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas F1 Team 1m14.405s 14 Pierre Gasly FRA Scuderia AlphaTauri 1m14.474s 15 Sebastian Vettel GER Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team 1m14.500s 16 Guanyu Zhou CHN Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen 1m14.534s 17 Yuki Tsunoda JPN Scuderia AlphaTauri 1m14.630s 18 Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen 1m14.695s 19 Max Verstappen NED Oracle Red Bull Racing 1m14.714s 20 Nicholas Latifi CAN Williams Racing 1m15.122s This is the final test for Ferrari, if they will be not competitive here, then the FIA change of rules decreased the efficiency of Ferrari. Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1011194/1/f1-2022-dutch-grand-prix-free-practice-results-1Why isn't Ferrari protesting the change like Christian Horner did when the changes were announced? Most of the other teams also seem mum with the change in the middle of the season and aren't really saying anything. Do they really think that the changes would also benefit them in what's left of the season? The Dutch GP is Verstappen's race to lose. And him losing in his home race would be hilarious. If it does happen, I want to see Hamilton win it for the lulz. |
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for the liverpool fans who don't know Arthur: tremendous flop in FC Barcelona, massive flop in Juventus, injury prone, not a great creative mid but he's ok in the defensive job and can help push the team forward. He should be a decent sub for Liverpool
I haven't heard any news from the reliable journalists around Liverpool, so I imagine it's just tabloid rumours which are usually rife around this time. However, I'll bite. Liverpool don't need a sub, they need someone to come in, and be of first team quality or alternatively someone who's reliable. Gini was a super reliable player for us, and it's unfortunate we let him go, as he was the perfect solution to what we're going through right now, and that's a lack of players. Thiago is brilliant, but very injury prone. Henderson is brilliant on his day, but has also struggled with the pace of the game in the recent years, and does pick up some injuries himself. Consider Gini who was almost never injured. Seriously, I can't remember the last time he was injured for Liverpool. On the other hand we also have Keita who has missed more games than he has played because he's so injury prone. We just need someone like Milner with a bit more miles in his legs, and can be a difference maker. I don't know who that is, and I doubt we sign anyone that fits the bill this side of Christmas. As far as I know Arthur to Liverpool is dine deal. Not much of singning probably but I guess slow start to the season and lots of injuries forced their hand and they bought what they could in last minutes. Don't expect him to play much but he is one more option for the rotation when needed. Liverpool is winning against Everton on weekend, right? Everton never looked weaker but this is Merseyside derby so who knows. Everton has ever looked weaker after the genius Moyes left the club. They used to be a consistent midtable club finishing likely at 5th - 7th in most of their seasons under Moyes... At least that's how I remember it. But yeah, they're definitely losing against Klopp's guys and maybe even losing with the opposing side getting s clean sheet. The team totals for Everton, under 0.5 goals is at 2.22. What do you guys think? It seems like there's a little bit of value there... I mean could Everton really get one in? Are Liverpool's CB's really performing that poorly? |
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I forgot this is the headlining fight. I'm still not used to Tai being the main event just seems unreal how quick he's progressed, and some of the fighters he has actually beat. Almost like a fairy tale. I'd be super impressed, just like I was with the Lewis knock out if he manages to beat Gane though.
Just Gane's different. He's fast, doesn't mind just point scoring, and doesn't take a whole lot of risks. Tai was technically losing up until that elbow against Lewis if my memory serves me well. Gane isn't just going to stand there though, so it'll take a whole different part of the game for Tai to close the space, and that's something we haven't really seen from him. We know what we're getting with him, he's going to load up on his shots, and try to knock Gane out, and I hate to say it, he probably gets caught out with the superior speed, and agility of Gane, and gets knocked out himself. The more, and more I think of it that's the only outcome or a decision to Gane, but Tai hasn't even been five rounds yet, so can he really manage his energy when he pretty much swings to knock you out every other punch?
I feel like Tuivasa is gonna play Gane's game for a couple of rounds and be patient, with himself knowing that it's a 5 rounder. But then Gane is just gonna spam leg kicks until Tuivasa can't take them anymore then starts going ape shit and head hunts... Exactly what Gane wants and is waiting for.  So from a betting perspective I think the over 2.5 at 1.76 is safe and sprinkle some with a couple of bets on Gane to win at R4 and R5. I'll post my lottery ticket after weigh ins. |
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^ Has anybody gotten close in winning 10k so far, FJ? Anyway, I haven't had any luck. The best record I've gotten is just three correct goal scorers in a match day. Lol. But yeah... This thing is still +EV as it's free. My picks for match day 6: Isak Dennis Adams Kane Toney Haaland Welbeck. ^ Just looking at it, it really makes you feel that you'll win the jackpot... Until the matches start and it's still nil - nil at a couple of the matches at the 75th minute. |
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Despite rumors, Riccardo spoke before the GP this weekend and said he wants to stay in F1.
Rumors were pretty intense about him going to Formula Indy next year.
That's really a 'come and get me' plea. Poor guy... His F1 days took a down turn the day he rejected the lucrative contract Horner was offering him to stay at Red Bull. He should have just stayed but the threat of the young Dutchman got to him. I still think Ricciardo's decision to leave, or one of the causes at least, was when Red Bull started marketing Verstappen more. The F1 game that year had Verstappen's face if you guys remember. There prolly a little bit of politics mixed in there too. |
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^ If they lose it and lose a couple more, Brendan Rodgers to be given the sack next imho. All the favorites falling, yet again, have to love mid-week matches Heh yup! And looking at the league table, the top clubs who were supposed to be chasing for the trophy have fallen off somewhat... Liverpool, Chelsea and to some extent Man United. But yeah, it's looking like Arsenal has a legit shot to go for the title rn. Lol. I guess we'll have to see. Arteta's boys are taking on Man United next and October should show if they got it. They have Tottenham, Liverpool and City. :/ |
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^ Yup pretty much. But it's gonna be late in the match tho. Tuivasa hasn't fought for 5 rounds I don't think and he'll prolly gas out at the third..? So it's prolly worth your while to drop a little something for Gane to win at R4 and R5. Both are lined at 9.60 and 12.
For Tuivasa, he has a puncher's chance and if I were betting on him I'd spice it up and bet Tuivasa via KO at 7.20 as there's no other chance he's winning against Gane except that imho.
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Bull run for ETH incoming. As the ETH foundation and devs start to push the news, expect investors with FOMO to rush in to pump the coin. I can already see top exchange announcing their upgrade cause of this kind of FOMO effect. The closest point of interest for The Merge is another upgrade called Bellatrix around Sep 6. Plan your investment accordingly. Latest announcement: https://blog.ethereum.org/2022/08/24/mainnet-merge-announcement/The question is, shouldn't everybody be starting to buy early now instead of waiting to get in at the last minute? I think ETH is going to go down after the merge imho. Maybe something kinda like buy the rumor, sell the news kind of scenario happening. The market just sucks right now and no amount of good news for ETH would take the price higher and stay higher. Imagine if the merge happened around late 2020. ETH to 10k easy in a couple of months imho. |
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^ Yup, it's not looking good. Lol.
There were 65% of voters who voted that BTC would trend up above 25k and stay there, 35% voted it won't. I feel like September's sentiment would be more bearish for most and it would be the right side. Dunno.. As I always say, we'll just have to see. All it takes is a couple of green, long, mega candles to flip everybody bullish again.
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I know it's funny, but it doesn't mean Salah can't score a goal on the next match, I believe he's very hungry to score at least one goal since the previous match is not lucky for him. Salah was a top scorers on Liverpool for 3 years in a row and he's still on his shape, so I believe he would score a goal in this match. I know I know... I was just teasing and having a bit of fun. I picked Luis Diaz. It seems like he's finally finding his groove with that LFC squad just like Sterling is at Chelsea. Diaz style of play sometimes reminds be of Eden Hazard... The Chelsea Hazard not the Real Madrid one. Lol. Anyway, good luck with your picks for tonight's game guys. |
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