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I guess I'm just gonna ride into tulip land .if it comes to that...
if we have 1k BTC I still have enough to slink into my 66 year goal of full retire on my traditional stuff
at least, IF, that happens it will be hard to be beat up about it.thus I will make a t-shirt that says (again if it all goes tulips)
'crypto allowed me to retire 3 years early, bite me!'
HOPEFULLY, there will be no call for such t-shirts in mass.
Also, I have a theory that IF I did panic sell like a 12-year-old child, and put the remainder after taxes into traditional
edward jones and stocks...THEN, the correction will finally happen...and IMHO, at least 40% hit (deep recession due to Trump in Office)
So, I'd have the worst for both worlds 50% down in crypto and then another 40% down when/if I move to traditional investments
So, my 'supposed' theory is that EVERYTHING now, traditional stocks, crypto, whatever is a BUBBLE...it is gonna get ugly in all these areas.
Thus, IF BTC and crypto are a 'store of value' like gold ...if the traditional logic holds that BTC and crypto are that 'store of value' then
if traditional stocks go plunk..gold and crypto will at least go 'sideways' or up
chump or champ I guess we will see in my case...
sheesh
brad
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I didnt realise big blocks meant more of a tendency to centralisation, otherwise I agree the argument for expansion parallel to tech advance would be a reasonable one. Its interesting how each side is seeing the best path forward, I prefer the more diverse less central route if possible as I think that will weather best. https://youtu.be/JzIKIodumpg?t=1921 Grant's interest rate observer on the reasoning for Bitcoin and how it was always wanted. In the 90s I remember people talking about how micro-transactions, ecash was a requirement for the internet to advance. Google ads helped created an online economy or similar avenues but its still true its needed daily analysis here - waiting for breakout
Could be, I see the uptrend on the lows there. I dont see the downtrend exactly or what would be a boundary upwards exactly 6528 was beat, thats support hopefully and 7369 range to 7724 as a target is reasonable seems like. Also 6846 as a line we met early June before losing 6528 so...essentially...you are saying 'it could go up' or 'it could go down'  |
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Anyway, don't put the iodine in a glass of water because the entire glass of water will taste terrible and it becomes a chore to drink it all every day. It's better to put it in a shot glass with half an ounce of water or juice. Honestly though, I've been taking a drop of iodine daily for a few months now and I don't feel any differently. I'm going to have to kick it up a notch.
Not a chore for me at all; use it to gulp down my vitamins and prescriptions every morning. Getting used to the taste. Almost becoming a "pleasantly medicinal bouquet" I've tasted much, MUCH worse. Trust me on that one, brother. Looking to increase to two drops per glass every morning starting next week. Thanks. I'm going to try it. I feel more lethargic than usual after night shifts these days. not sure I buy this idea. I don't have a thyroid since I was 16 years old. I take Synthroid and have my thyroid checked every year by blood test in case it goes too low. Sounds to me the Iodine trick is simply messing with thyroid...if it works...I'd simply have it checked and get Synthroid if you need it to 'rev you back up to spec' anyway, my 2c ...and no w/o a thyroid gland the iodine would do zip for me..thus my suspicion that ....folk that get improvement and needs their thyroid checked...I use a large dose in that my thyroid is gone, the pill is tasteless and the size of a baby aspirin and also cheap. your co-pay costs more than the drug a month ...its like 50 bucks for 3 months or some such ...and again...I'm at the top end of dosage...most folk will be much less...if you need it ..you take it daily... I also take a baby aspirin in that already taking the Synthroid, so no strain...to do that as well... Anyway, with the 'improvement's' stated..if you do or don't do them...I'd look into this as well as a much more likely reason you are feeling run down etc |
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I actually fear SC will suffer a short term sump similar to bcn on Binance. Would've preferred sc on Binance when the market is better
I think on the contrary, the team came to finance on time. Since any almost coin when entering the exchange, first has a pattern to grow slightly in price, and then follows a long fall. Now is a period when all the coins fall in price. This year showed us new trend that supply of coins was nothing but an illusion and what matters most is the working platform and use case of any coin or token. yeah, my question is ..will the working platform be in place for the 3x to 7x the capacity that the original sia-tech obelisk only miners...that they expected... IMHO, the network decentralized storage better be able to scale fast in July 2018, or we are all screwed....in that you have what, say 4x the ASIC capacity and they are all going to jump on, driving up difficulty from day one? Again, if I remember right, the original 10k of obelisk units (their original goal) was to hit according to sia-tech would be 30% inflation of coin per month....so can the decentralized network they supposedly have, be in place to take this load, and move their vision of 10c to $1 decentralized cloud storage in comparison to Amazon? Again, if the ASIC's hit and their network is not up to speed...all that will happen is everyone making coin..till they shut the ASIC's off and then you have no network because they can't make enough to pay for the electric....this could be a cluster....inform me my fears are meaningless please... brad Blockchain is self-regulating, your fears are meaningless  No idea where you heard about 30% monthly inflation 30% inflation is also a new thing for me Why would Sia dev team want that? As far as I understand it...sia-tech was NEVER interested in the siacoin price in that it was based on SCARCITY...they wanted sia to be used by their ASIC's in a network for the ASIC security...these coins would gain their worth from the use in the ASIC network and the 30% inflation was needed to expand this decentralized ...cheap 10c to the $1.00 alternative to Amazon and other centralized networks... thus..it was always assumed by me (at least) that as soon as these ASIC's hit their decentralized network..the network would determine the worth of siacoin no longer the scarcity from GPU mining etc. What confuses me is IF this was really their goal then why they did not fork siacoin to retain control over the amount of ASIC miners is a mystery to me...it will be much more than 30% coin inflation a month now... The good news is IF, they have the sia-tech ready to go for when these ASIC's hit in July and start to firm up the backbone for their vision..no issues but I hear NOTHING about HOW they plan to convert folk from known centralized storage like Amazon into their vision with NO promotion I'm aware of... also, no mention of what they are going to do with 5x the ASIC's they expected (if you take out the bitmain units as no longer profitable..a bit iffy that) right now on coin price...if I had my units NOW I'd make $1 a day...per obelisk unit....thus....the network vision they have tried to do has to come up to speed and take up the slack or NO ASIC miners will run their network if it costs more than the present siacoin price to run them but, hey, they got a lot of BTC from the pre-orders last year ..the ave price was like 0.97 BTC in my case....back last July 2017 or so....they did not fork the coin..after bitmain equipment dump....so maybe they have siacoin in hand and/or the BTC still in hand to cover all the equipment/research etc in the ASIC's they put out ..so no risk to them there....I just don't see sia-tech having anything on the line with all this either as getting their network up in time..nor on their 4 batches of obelisks, none of them have shipped yet, where is the hype? where are the promo's? how are you gonna take on Amazon? deafening silence.... just wonder if they will just watch the ASIC network all kick in...and they will dwadle around half-assed wait and not get their network up in any legit time frame and it will fail...(a big ho hum from them) and no real risk to them, with all risk on those who are speculating in siacoin and those who bought their line on their ASIC network vision of 'competing' with Amazon...damn hard to compete if the folk gonna buy in have never heard of your vision/option and no scale-up at all! from sia-tech already paid for..probably many times over if they kept some of the payments in bitcoin...asic miners left holding the bag 1) ASIC's from obelisk and others, come up...can't mine at present prices...no network of any note to support such..ASIC buyers left holding the bag... 2) folk speculating on siacoin, price can't support itself from all the ASIC's driving up difficulty and price..no more scarcity for price....are left holding the bag 3) after the dust settles ..they can go the new algo route on the letter they sent out with different algo makers and put their decentralized network or use this now defunct protocol with other asic's in the future...after all the above crashes...lots of options..or they can just fold shop and walk with no issues. ...on that...if it takes them another year to get up to speed to launch anything....see 1) and 2) above of those screwed...but as to the devs and sia-tech as a whole...no real risk.....called having your cake and eat it too...as an asic maker and or a dev....by that I mean the network gets up..when the network gets up....dev is set for life as a crypto holder....like luke jr. of bitcoin core...screw everybody...it gets up when they feel like it ..ie again no risk /pressure... rinse/wash/repeat ..seen this before with projects so the question remains...if the price is not in the speculation of siacoins for scarcity etc because a crapload of siacoin ASIC's from different mnfg's and Obelisk ASIC's are going to turn on ...if in sia-tech obelisk's case...middle of July 2018....is their vision/network up to the task of keeping these beasties up to even support the network...or are you just mining promised and air? ...again, likely future 'bag holder' you have to have use/volume and their decentralized network 'in play' to pay electric and make extra coin for yourself via the network or all is moot.. or again, is the project not ready, and it is not in their control and thus they are just gonna watch it implode....blame bitmain, blame other mnfg's with blake2b ASIC's and kick the can down the road...as a re-do? or hell just fold up the project..take whatever income or profits made in the last year or so and walk? again, seen this before on projects again, deafening silence on any/all of the above issues thats how i understand stuff at this point in time anyway...they have to hit the ground running or come the end of July when the ASIC's hit ..I just have a mess of Obelisk doorstops... brad |
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I can’t even post images ... what is your point? Just because I myself have known and followed crypto since 2011/2012 does that make me less of a person/poster on this forum over those who have too much time on their hands to post more and signed up earlier than me??? I think not. Unsure of TOS here but I am sure calling someone an a-hole violates it. But it is ok ... you and others have made me understand how much negativity is really on this forum. Keep up that helping hand there.
You're a newbie. Newbies can post images but they don't show up by default. DwarfMiner is not a newbie. DwarfMiner can post images AND they would show up just fine. Nevertheless DwarfMiner chose to use this false excuse to imply that I don't know the rules. I hope that explains my reasoning behind calling DwarfMiner an asshole and we can get back to the topic at hand, which is the failure to deliver what was promised by DwarfMiner. I bought a Biakal Giant B through HK company via wire transfer and if correct had 3 or 6 months were I could dispute charges if I hadn’t received my product. OP was accepting wire transfer which should allow that peace of mind so to speak from your bank next time if you like. I would also advise to double check with your bank first though.
You can't dispute a wire transfer. Stop lying. You can believe whatever you want but like I said talk to your bank before hand. When I did my Baikal that is what Wells Fargo told me. Also I found this answer on Quora too: “Usually No. There are exceptions when a wire transfer can be reversed, in the event of a fraud or erroneous wire transfer, and provided the money on the recipient side has not been disbursed. In this case, both the banks would have to agree that the transaction was a fraudulent (or in error) and it will be reversed, minus any charges, etc. that may have occurred on the transaction network (e.g. SWIFT, etc.). In your particular case, the transaction cannot be reversed.” Every form I ever saw on a wire transfer has the line that says something like this: With this wire transfer, there is no way to get your money returned once sent, check this box if you understand the risk 3 different banks...all have the same boilerplate in them..all wire xfers are like cash..no way to get it back if the other side does not want to send it back |
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I actually fear SC will suffer a short term sump similar to bcn on Binance. Would've preferred sc on Binance when the market is better
I think on the contrary, the team came to finance on time. Since any almost coin when entering the exchange, first has a pattern to grow slightly in price, and then follows a long fall. Now is a period when all the coins fall in price. This year showed us new trend that supply of coins was nothing but an illusion and what matters most is the working platform and use case of any coin or token. yeah, my question is ..will the working platform be in place for the 3x to 7x the capacity that the original sia-tech obelisk only miners...that they expected... IMHO, the network decentralized storage better be able to scale fast in July 2018, or we are all screwed....in that you have what, say 4x the ASIC capacity and they are all going to jump on, driving up difficulty from day one? Again, if I remember right, the original 10k of obelisk units (their original goal) was to hit according to sia-tech would be 30% inflation of coin per month....so can the decentralized network they supposedly have, be in place to take this load, and move their vision of 10c to $1 decentralized cloud storage in comparison to Amazon? Again, if the ASIC's hit and their network is not up to speed...all that will happen is everyone making coin..till they shut the ASIC's off and then you have no network because they can't make enough to pay for the electric....this could be a cluster....inform me my fears are meaningless please... brad Blockchain is self-regulating, your fears are meaningless No idea where you heard about 30% monthly inflation was on their main page with their supposed calculator on first lot of miners when they we're attempting 10k of miner sales first batch blockchain will be fine...paying the ASIC miners with no decentralized storage option in the works at the time this many ASIC's hit will result in lots of coin inflation...and price will dump...siacoin is not a coin based on scarcity..it is a token..thus if no network for the token of siacoin to use because it is not up to speed to compete with say amazon....than ...just a lot of Asics making coin and if as I suspect current siacoin price is due to scarcity..than worst of both worlds..no relief mining your siacoin ASIC from siacoin price and no relief for compensation as security ASIC miner for the decentralized network because it is not in play yet enough...to pick up the slack set/match so yeah, we will have a secure blockchain system with the Asics but no money from either camp to pay the electric to keep them up...thus they go off ...due to electric costs and the ASIC miners supposed to be used for decentralized storage never gets off the ground ...again...not looking good from my view |
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I actually fear SC will suffer a short term sump similar to bcn on Binance. Would've preferred sc on Binance when the market is better
I think on the contrary, the team came to finance on time. Since any almost coin when entering the exchange, first has a pattern to grow slightly in price, and then follows a long fall. Now is a period when all the coins fall in price. This year showed us new trend that supply of coins was nothing but an illusion and what matters most is the working platform and use case of any coin or token. yeah, my question is ..will the working platform be in place for the 3x to 7x the capacity that the original sia-tech obelisk only miners...that they expected... IMHO, the network decentralized storage better be able to scale fast in July 2018, or we are all screwed....in that you have what, say 4x the ASIC capacity and they are all going to jump on, driving up difficulty from day one? Again, if I remember right, the original 10k of obelisk units (their original goal) was to hit according to sia-tech would be 30% inflation of coin per month....so can the decentralized network they supposedly have, be in place to take this load, and move their vision of 10c to $1 decentralized cloud storage in comparison to Amazon? Again, if the ASIC's hit and their network is not up to speed...all that will happen is everyone making coin..till they shut the ASIC's off and then you have no network because they can't make enough to pay for the electric....this could be a cluster....inform me my fears are meaningless please... brad the most convenient way to contact the developers. write on the YouTube channel in the comments. as soon as the new video comes out. write first .they will hear you 100%. you can write to them what you think.))) did so ....deafening silence...they just don't want to say ......because they have no clue is my assumption..... |
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you are probably right. you have two options really (well, three)
1. power down and wait for prices to rise
2. keep mining on speculation
(3). it's cheaper to just buy the coin.
Mining on speculation is really dumb if you do have the opportunity to purchase the coin cheaper elsewhere. You are better off switching to a more profitable coin, sell that coin and buy Litecoin. there is NO better coin...if so it just saves me 5c a day..big whoop...at 8000mh and 90% of all miners that mine pow-scrypt are all in the hole at 35c a day or some such..because 90% of the pow scrypt miners that still manage to run are Bitmain L3+'s...what do you think is gonna happen when they all shut off? diff drops.they all turn on ..diff goes up...I've been watching it yo/yo between 35c loss a day to 50c loss a day for last 2 weeks if they go off...they all go off and again...some relief on the other pow-scrypt coins..but NOT enough to matter ..this includes the algo at prohashing and god help the pow scrypt world if bitmain mines a say supposed 3x the hash same watts machine all summer before preorders in late fall pow scrypt could frigging die.... saw it with scrypt N one week 12-15 coins (including vertcoin) than poof...all gone when knc titans did the scrypt N patch crap can tank and/or the only one left able mine the pow scypt network of any asic coin flavor etc is bitmain again, difficulty has outstripped the machines available and they are the LATEST machines....if NO price recovery ...all pow scrypt coins could tank big time just from this network pow-scrypt farce... again, hope I'm wrong ...but not looking like it ...again if someone has 1/2 the elec rate of me on an L3+ and is losing 25c a day vs my 50c a day...they too will shut off ...and if diff dumps all will turn machines on again and 3 days later same diff with the difficulty ..back to your loss depending on your elec costs but you always lose at the present prices...I need 115 ltc with a month on 8000mh just to break even on electric big whoop again, not looking good ...too many of the same miners ...too little cost for pow-scrypt coins...no way out I can see but a crash (again, not to be harsh..beat me up, smarter minds than me...but everyone has the same toaster and I am assuming all will go off at the same time if this becomes unsustainable....you can mine a month or so at a loss ..but eventually, you just shut it off...with all the same equipment...we could yo/yo quite a bit and be bled dry in smaller bits...but eventually folk will tire of chasing this car and scrypt-pow as a network method will suffer again beat me up ..hope I'm dead wrong..all my miners wish you well in beating me up brad |
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big whoop it is a link to a china site that makes PCB boards...yeah..well I know a mess of guys making CFFA cards with 64mb to use on their apple 2's as slot Hard Drives..for such legacy stuff...common as hell to get PCB's made..still NO PROOF that any were actually made by these clowns deep down we all hope its not a scam
for those who didn't buy...seriously, are also hoping it is not, so they can buy on batch 2
Not hoping. This was clearly a scam from day one. When I saw the first pictures of the board that looked like something from the 90's I knew this was bonafide steaming pile of bullshit. People are just too gullible. Hats off to the seller who made 100% margins. yeah, what the above said...the thing that bugs me is that it was not even done as a scam correctly...so many errors you can drive a truck through now back in the day of say 2013 they could run as scam let me tell you ....butterfly labs was the darling of coindesk and the industry ...never came thru paycoin by gaw miners......big balls on that attempt....not to mention alpha tech which did keep paypal took 1/3 down....waited till 45 days went by so paypal and credit card disputes were over..and never shipped... 2018..no one has pride in their work anymore |
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FYI,
still losing 35c a day on a 500mh 800 watt L3+ scrypt pow miner with LTC. This is 'supposedly' in mass 90% probably of all ASIC's for scrypt-pow and LTC
being used for the network. At my present figures I need $115 LTC to break even and about $135 LTC to get over a buck a day. Thus at 8000mh and $1,290.27
usd a month..mot real keen even at $160 LTC just to pay that to make about 47 bucks a month over
not looking to good when all this stuff gets shut off at the same time....and bitmain takes over the network
anyway comments, better minds then myself?
brad
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I actually fear SC will suffer a short term sump similar to bcn on Binance. Would've preferred sc on Binance when the market is better
I think on the contrary, the team came to finance on time. Since any almost coin when entering the exchange, first has a pattern to grow slightly in price, and then follows a long fall. Now is a period when all the coins fall in price. This year showed us new trend that supply of coins was nothing but an illusion and what matters most is the working platform and use case of any coin or token. yeah, my question is ..will the working platform be in place for the 3x to 7x the capacity that the original sia-tech obelisk only miners...that they expected... IMHO, the network decentralized storage better be able to scale fast in July 2018, or we are all screwed....in that you have what, say 4x the ASIC capacity and they are all going to jump on, driving up difficulty from day one? Again, if I remember right, the original 10k of obelisk units (their original goal) was to hit according to sia-tech would be 30% inflation of coin per month....so can the decentralized network they supposedly have, be in place to take this load, and move their vision of 10c to $1 decentralized cloud storage in comparison to Amazon? Again, if the ASIC's hit and their network is not up to speed...all that will happen is everyone making coin..till they shut the ASIC's off and then you have no network because they can't make enough to pay for the electric....this could be a cluster....inform me my fears are meaningless please... brad |
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What do folk expect..say in the next month say
on the LISK 1.0 full release...I mean when it goes LIVE not test net.... looking for a 'supposed' or 'expected' road map on how stuff will progress when that happens
by the numbers..what do folk think will happen?
slow start?
stuff in the works will hit immediately?
I've no clue...asking for the community on what to expect and on what kinda timeline for use of this release
better minds chime in here....
thanks
Searing
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guys guys guys
we need positive energy here
those screaming out it's a scam, you are probably first batch buyers yourself.
i know sometimes its easier to direct your energy and slap yourself and make urself believe it is just a dream than hoping for a dream to come true.
but the fact that the seller is still giving us hope, then hang on to it.
i mean , my money is down already, not that i am gonna put more in until i receive the first batch (i hope)
but it sure is more comfortable believing and hope that this might be real then lying and contradicting to my inner feelings and say it is a scam
so...yes, back to the question. Which Friday did the Chinese say ? hahaha
gotta love these 'newbie' it is not fair posts...snicker....this thread could be a guide on how to scam folk w/little effort |
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Just realized that Bitcoin's hash rate is up +100% since January 2018 and around +25% since May as well as +15% from two weeks ago.  That's a nice hashrate miners. Those are some nice ASICs. It would be shame if someone... changed... the algorithm. It's not going to happen, so I don't know what your point is except to bring up something that is not going to happen? not to be an ass...but actual question...I read someplace a month ago, actually the claim that miners need about $6,600 usd to make profit mining ..this was for the majority of big BTC miner halls...IF, the price dumps (see LTC) and there is an overabundance of ASIC miners (see LTC) is it not possible that it could get so bad or centralized (see LTC Bitmain) that perhaps this could be the case? I used LTC as an example ..which is not exactly fair, in that they have many pow-scrypt coins effected in this manner, not just Bitcoin forks....but there has to reach a point in price vs mining...where it could be you just could NOT mine coin at a price without having to change algo? anyway, probably not explained right, but you get the direction...what would it take to change algo on BTC? (if any) |
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There is a slight delay in the factory. The Dragon Boat Festival was in last week. Now we are trying to find out the delay with our Chinese partners.
heh...so it begins...the excuses and the slow twisting of the knife....I mean go away already ..you got their money why be more of a prick 2all:
The goods are sold and we temporarily hid the online store. Because many people write letters with the question "how can we buy this" and it's distracting.
The video on the YouTube channel will also be hidden for the same reason.
Do not worry, we are here and have not gone anywhere.
There is a slight delay in the factory. The Dragon Boat Festival was last week. Now we are trying to find out the delay with our Chinese partners.
the reasoning above is just to prolong the misery of those he scam'd ..he is getting off on this stuff....the longer he plays it out the more of a sick kick he gets off of this what a douche |
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The goods are sold, why leave the live store? Or do you still call this our "web page"?  Videos will probably be hidden too, because a lot of people write to the e-mail the question of how they can buy it. that by far is the biggest crap of sh*t I've ever heard...you don't want people to know of your product success after the fact... yeah..right.... sheesh.....the OP is not even trying to convince people anymore it is not fake....just toying with the folk that fell for it what a bunch of hooey |
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I was promised a weekend dump ... ... ... Bob ...
I was promised a weekend pump....(not really) but so far we got MEH! which considering the last 2 months of stuff...I'll take as a win for now... |
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Any estimate on when Batch 2 will come? I'd even be happy with an answer on when Batch 2 pre-orders will happen.
Are you a dwarf sock-puppet? I notice that the most enthusiastic posts in this thread are consistently new accounts. Opening pre-sales for batch two before anyone has batch one would be about the largest, flashing-neon, red-flag, billboard proclaiming a scam that you could ask for. again....newbie accounts saying yea! are also a sign its a scam....it is the way this stuff works with a real product, the Legendary accounts all go yea! because someone in that camp with years on bitcointalk reviews the product... has the OP fled the thread yet? Always a sure sign things are off the rails and it is a scam... |
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got any spare controllers?
Nope...if I part out my remaining data hall Titans as cubes...probably as 2 cube toys...unlikely to have any spares still trying to figure out why I even have this thread for getting more delusional I guess no one is offering ....so at least that is setting me back from feeling foolish later brad |
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