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2401  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcoinduit.com Spam / Horrible Day on: August 26, 2011, 03:15:12 AM
Hold up, theymos told you to stop making more topics about Bitcoinduit.com, and... you make another one about how you're not supposed to do that anymore?
2402  Economy / Lending / Re: need loan of 2btc. more info inside on: August 25, 2011, 10:24:03 PM
It's time to pay back!  Smiley Send the Bitcoins to 1EPty4cY86YinFri78XKJ3o8FFrVSLmLHd
2403  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: How to get Loans - IBB on: August 25, 2011, 03:49:56 AM
The thing is, should somebody underage default on their loan and not lie about their age, you can't threaten them with legal action. I know you don't even bother with trying to pursue legal action (at least currently), but that's a strong reason to keep honest people honest. If a kid realizes at the last minute that he can't pay you back, even though he meant to, there's little you can do to encourage him to figure something else out.
That is extremely reasonable. If this were the case, then the blame could be passed on to the lawmakers. However, I know of no jurisdiction in which stealing only becomes illegal past a certain age. Do you know of any?
They aren't stealing. They are merely breaching a contract that is unenforceable because the IBB entered into it knowing that the person was underage. At least in the US, contracts are only enforceable against someone underage if they lied about their age and the IBB made a reasonable attempt to verify it.

However, I am not a lawyer, so please take this with a grain of salt.
2404  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: How to get Loans - IBB on: August 25, 2011, 02:31:26 AM
The thing is, should somebody underage default on their loan and not lie about their age, you can't threaten them with legal action. I know you don't even bother with trying to pursue legal action (at least currently), but that's a strong reason to keep honest people honest. If a kid realizes at the last minute that he can't pay you back, even though he meant to, there's little you can do to encourage him to figure something else out.
2405  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin vs Solidcoin on: August 25, 2011, 12:50:02 AM
What are the differences between bitcoin and solidcoin?  Is one better than the other?
Basically, all of the secondary blockchain defense mechanisms are removed in favor of convenience.

Could you please elaborate that point a bit? I thought that there were no changes this dramatic made to the bitcoin protocol. or does it have to do with the shorter block generation time?

Thanks!

Alex


p.s. Also, since this is the Newbie-Forum, i'm not sure what "secondary blockchain defense mechanisms" are
The twice-daily difficulty retargets, along with the shorter block generation speed, means that should it be necessary to fork the blockchain because a security issue was discovered and exploited, a patch has to be made and distributed to over half of the miners (in terms of hash speed) AND the fork needs to be grow longer than the bad chain in less than 12 hours (possibly even no more than 6 hours) before mined blocks after the exploit happened start maturing. Even worse, this needs to happen just as soon even if a strong majority of the miners stop mining as soon as they learn of the attack. Once the blocks mature, any site that didn't hear of the issue could be sent coins that would soon be voided and accept them as valid. At that point, even more people will have an incentive to allow the bad chain to remain.

The same applies to if there is a temporary (at least one day) split of the internet somewhere. Users would only have 6-12 hours to notice and stop accepting coins.

Bitcoin was designed with these "limitations" for VERY good reason.
2406  Economy / Gambling / Re: Make 0.3 BTC for calculating the BitLotto Jr draw while I'm away! on: August 24, 2011, 11:00:48 PM
Ok, I think I've worked the August 24th Draw out.

Jackpot size: 0.55 BTC (approximately [obivously have to take BitLotto fee off])
Lucky Block: 142316 (https://blockexplorer.com/block/0000000000000849255d6638075f110ce907000a2e8706376c8865501ece0c44)
Mega Millions Numbers: 11 21 44 48 49 Mega Ball 23
Winning Picks: 5d20308484 (http://www.fileformat.info/tool/hash.htm?text=0000000000000849255d6638075f110ce907000a2e8706376c8865501ece0c44112144484923)
Winner's Hash: b6c3987cb3...  (https://blockexplorer.com/tx/b6c3987cb35bb9d75bb4fb41af087de997c8d0c52f9a747850d4e0c90e287cf5)
Winner: 15mSqWYtCcP9pNotc989Lb4SdmDtU1mKrj

If anyone wants to check my working out or compare it to their own feel free to check this spreadsheet out: (this weeks is on sheet 2)
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Asrj62VPBiOhdElQWGpFa1FOLUFYRC0yUlhNMmFFLWc&hl=en_US
Quoting for preservation...

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2407  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: August 22, 2011, 07:56:35 PM
Need I say more?
Yes, you do.
2408  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin vs Solidcoin on: August 22, 2011, 06:56:14 PM
What are the differences between bitcoin and solidcoin?  Is one better than the other?
Basically, all of the secondary blockchain defense mechanisms are removed in favor of convenience.
2409  Economy / Goods / Re: Sh1337 is a scammer, beware! on: August 22, 2011, 06:32:17 PM
Mods - check Sh1337's IP with laydum.
Theymos just got back to me: They are not a match, which is what I suspected.
2410  Economy / Goods / Re: Sh1337 is a scammer, beware! on: August 22, 2011, 06:29:00 PM
Gah, fuck. What am I to do now? I have to log off and go with my family for the day... God damnit... So I guess I fucked up? Fuck. Fuck fuck fuck. Sorry for my profane language. But now neither of us have bitcoins, and you're out 10. I'm sorry man. I'm sure Mt. Gox will take care of this.
Just send a support request to MtGox, and they'll re-credit your account. Again, all you did was send the coins to yourself.
It seemed like if his screen shot was accurate, he sent it back to my mtgox account instead of my wallet.
Again, that is incorrect. In fact, if you look at the very thread where you reported the "pending" issue to MagicalTux, you'll see that the address in the screen shot and the address you posted are the same.
2411  Economy / Goods / Re: Sh1337 is a scammer, beware! on: August 22, 2011, 06:22:23 PM
Sent you a PM, Maged.
*sigh*

Ladies and gentlemen, this whole thing was just a big misunderstanding, combined with a MtGox bug. What Sh1337 did was send the money to his own MtGox Bitcoin address, thinking that it was the address dalamchops sent from (he didn't see dalamchops' post until after he sent it), and it was removed from the account but never re-added.

Sh1337, contact MtGox and report this bug and ask that it be re-credited to your account. Once that is done, send the Bitcoins to the address dalamchops posted.

I think you misinterpreted the information, Maged. That address is not and was not ever mine. I withdrawled the bitcoins to the same address they were SENT from.

PM me the screenshot, I'll apologize publicly if it was all a misunderstanding and i'll deal with mtgox myself.
As the funds weren't ever sent to you, only Sh1337 can deal with MtGox.
2412  Economy / Goods / Re: Sh1337 is a scammer, beware! on: August 22, 2011, 06:20:47 PM
Sent you a PM, Maged.
*sigh*

Ladies and gentlemen, this whole thing was just a big misunderstanding, combined with a MtGox bug. What Sh1337 did was send the money to his own MtGox Bitcoin address, thinking that it was the address dalamchops sent from (he didn't see dalamchops' post until after he sent it), and it was removed from the account but never re-added.

Sh1337, contact MtGox and report this bug and ask that it be re-credited to your account. Once that is done, send the Bitcoins to the address dalamchops posted.

I think you misinterpreted the information, Maged. That address is not and was not ever mine. I withdrawled the bitcoins to the same address they were SENT from.
No, I'm not misinterpreting it. MtGox shows the address that was deposited to, not the address the funds came from. It'd be dangerous if they did.
2413  Economy / Goods / Re: Sh1337 is a scammer, beware! on: August 22, 2011, 06:12:54 PM
Sent you a PM, Maged.
*sigh*

Ladies and gentlemen, this whole thing was just a big misunderstanding, combined with a MtGox bug. What Sh1337 did was send the money to his own MtGox Bitcoin address, thinking that it was the address dalamchops sent from (he didn't see dalamchops' post until after he sent it), and it was removed from the account but never re-added.

Sh1337, contact MtGox and report this bug and ask that it be re-credited to your account. Once that is done, send the Bitcoins to the address dalamchops posted.
2414  Economy / Goods / Re: Sh1337 is a scammer, beware! on: August 22, 2011, 05:54:26 PM
Sh1337, I have to ask that you post a screen shot of your MtGox BTC account history page. If you won't do that, I ask that you at least PM it to me.
2415  Economy / Goods / Re: Sh1337 is a scammer, beware! on: August 22, 2011, 05:40:19 PM
Thanks, I believe that is enough to establish that the Bitcoins were sent to Sh1337. However, that was never in question, since Sh1337's story agrees on that point. What I need proof of is that the Bitcoins weren't sent back.
2416  Economy / Goods / Re: Sh1337 is a scammer, beware! on: August 22, 2011, 05:24:46 PM
I sent the 10 BTC back to the address he gave me.

That very well could be the problem right there.  Were the coins sent to the address provided in the forum post or were they "sent back" to the address where they appeared to have been sent from?  If the original payment was sent using an ewallet provider, then "returning" the funds to that address are instead sent to an address owned by the ewallet, and will not likely go to the right account.

If this is what happened, that too will be verifiable in the blockchain.  So the question is, exactly was the address you used when sending.

[Edited to clarify.]

he has refused to shown prove that he has even sent the coins. I actually sent the coins from my mtgox account to his mtgox account, (in which the transfer does not show up on the block chain, and i had to have mtgox support verified to that he has the BTCs). That's why i chose to put up my wallet's address publicly and ask him to transfer to it so everyone can see that he's a scam.
Now that's interesting... However, I believe that any transfer to an existing MtGox Bitcoin address from MtGox would do the same, although I'd have to test it myself. In fact, hold on while I do test it.
I have sent 1 BTC to 1Jo7oEXLzVq3h6Jq9FFZUnGaRT4te5zVdN from a MtGox account that I made, to another MtGox account I made. So far, I see no transaction on the Bitcoin network.

I have to ask that you submit additional evidence.
2417  Economy / Goods / Re: Sh1337 is a scammer, beware! on: August 22, 2011, 05:08:19 PM
I sent the 10 BTC back to the address he gave me.

That very well could be the problem right there.  Were the coins sent to the address provided in the forum post or were they "sent back" to the address where they appeared to have been sent from?  If the original payment was sent using an ewallet provider, then "returning" the funds to that address are instead sent to an address owned by the ewallet, and will not likely go to the right account.

If this is what happened, that too will be verifiable in the blockchain.  So the question is, exactly was the address you used when sending.

[Edited to clarify.]

he has refused to shown prove that he has even sent the coins. I actually sent the coins from my mtgox account to his mtgox account, (in which the transfer does not show up on the block chain, and i had to have mtgox support verified to that he has the BTCs). That's why i chose to put up my wallet's address publicly and ask him to transfer to it so everyone can see that he's a scam.
Now that's interesting... However, I believe that any transfer to an existing MtGox Bitcoin address from MtGox would do the same, although I'd have to test it myself. In fact, hold on while I do test it.
2418  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BOUNTY] New useless scammy blockchains on: August 22, 2011, 05:56:54 AM
perhaps the forum mods should just delete all these new block chain threads and the creators will have to spam other places to
get their "experiment" going.
I was in support of doing that, but we decided to just put them all in the trash binAlternate cryptocurrencies board instead. The justification (which I agree with) was that members of this forum might be interested in it. That said, no subforums for individual alternate cryptocurrencies will be created, because this is not supposed to be the primary community for these cryptocurrencies.
2419  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin client mirrors and checksums on: August 22, 2011, 05:27:30 AM
could you possibly replace :

Link 1

on something like:

bitcoin software distribution download - link 1


better seo.


Sounds good, will do.

hmm, should I rename each link something like "Bictoin client mirror download 1" and so on? Would that be effective?
You misspelled "Bitcoin"
2420  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: August 22, 2011, 04:58:18 AM
Sorry, but this is not the SolidCoin forum. I'm sure that whatever you want to post can be done there, assuming it exists. If it doesn't, that's not our problem.
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