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1701  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Problem receiving payment on: April 04, 2012, 04:41:22 AM
First off, does your transaction appear on Blockchain.info? If not, there was a problem if you sent it from your local wallet. If you sent it from MtGox, be aware that transactions to other MtGox users won't appear on the blockchain.
1702  Other / Meta / Re: Dump of posts on: April 04, 2012, 03:42:58 AM
I was unable to download this from any of the FOUR sites linked.. can someone provide a (private) plain HTTP link or torrent to this? I can mirror it once I have a copy.

Sure.
http://maged.lordaeron.org/bitcointalk/Bitcoin_Forum_posts_dump_Apr_3_2012.7z

Just please try the other links before using this one. I don't wanna run out of bandwidth for the month.
Edit: Based on how few people have read this post, it looks like I'll be okay on bandwidth. I'll only have a problem after a few thousand downloads/month.
1703  Economy / Lending / Re: To the people i owe: part 3 (as of march 28, 2012) on: April 04, 2012, 01:46:52 AM
On april 2, 2012 i should get 30 bitcoins from a deal i did on here, i sold like 8k trading cards so when they get them i should get the bitcoins... the cards where shipped like 30 minutes ago or so.
God damn it. I should have noticed this earlier.

Rexcoin, you need to take advantage of the fact that I'm acting as a free escrow service for you until your loan is repaid. Unless someone is extremely reputable, you should have them send the coins first to 1C61VvoPrRfGzi6jA8C3VAmj7S97t6kNe8 (and message me within two hours so that I know that it's an escrowed transaction) before you send them anything.

Also, to avoid discouraging you from selling items to pay off the debt, I am always willing to remit the actual shipping costs of an item converted to bitcoin based on market prices back to you from the escrowed funds once it is received and I have confirmation that I can close the escrow.
1704  Economy / Auctions / Re: 7-day auction: 1784.38 BTC in Shakaru debt on: April 02, 2012, 05:30:49 AM
It would be one of the greatest heists in the bitcoin community if shakaru ends up winning this auction below his original debt Tongue

Is he even allowed to bid? Roll Eyes

I thought about this, him bidding on his own debt will only push up the amount higher. Assuming he has the money he should let someone else win, then just pay it off. Why keep bidding it up, seems silly:/

the only reason he shouldn't be bidding imho is that any money he has should be going into the pot, not spending on other things such as 1 creditor's debt. him bidding on this debt wouldn't be fair to the other creditors.

anyway, there's no way real way to know whether burtwagner = shakaru or burtwagner != shakaru so it's a bit pointless even worrying about it.
If he is able to pay enough to the pool such that your cut of the payout is greater than or equal to his bid, I don't see any problem with this. Of course, if he is able to come up with the money so quickly, he'd be bound to be outbid since if he ever would make another payment, anything on top of what he bid (since it'd have to be guaranteed for him to bid at all) would be free. Thus, it would only make sense for him to participate if he was able to pay off the entire debt at once. Of course, he'd just be buying the whole debt entirely at that point, since he'd have to bid the maximum amount in order to not be out-bid.
1705  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I went to Meze Grill today and paid with VISA on: April 02, 2012, 05:11:20 AM
Forget about in-person transactions. That can come later when we have a stronger network of users. Besides, a much better competitor already has us beaten there: cash. Instead, let's focus our efforts to where cash can't be taken. Namely, online transactions. Once bitcoins become big in that area, the restaurant business will have no reason to ignore Bitcoin.

That being said, there is a backdoor into this industry. More and more, restaurants are upgrading their systems to take online orders for food. That falls within Bitcoin's niche. That is why I'm really liking the idea of having a big pizza joint accept bitcoins for online orders.
1706  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [CLOSED] Buying 320 Bitcoin @ U$5.00 through PayPal - TOTAL U$1600.00 on: March 31, 2012, 12:40:12 AM
I suppose I should add my +1, too. (my transaction was a little after an hour after this thread was made)
1707  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A bit of nostalgia... How did you get your first Bitcoin? on: March 31, 2012, 12:31:46 AM
I got my first coins from CoinPal back when the price was just under a dollar. I actually put a request into the faucet first, but because of reasons I can't quite remember anymore, faucet transactions were having a hard time getting relayed and added to blocks, delaying the transactions for about a day. If it wasn't for me being willing to try out buying bitcoins through CoinPal, I very likely would have given up on Bitcoin right there.
1708  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: payment with a message on: March 30, 2012, 03:05:48 AM
Someone other than the sender of the transaction can usurp him.

I don't get it.
Allowing (or at least making standard) a small hash in a transaction would encourage merchant to just use a single address instead of forcing them to use a different address for each transaction. If the hash is too small, it then becomes possible for someone other than the sender of the transactions to impersonate the customer and convince the merchant to "refund" the transaction to their account.

Quite the contrary, it greatly reduces the information available in the block chain. If a business uses a single address for all customer payments, it's very easy for a competitor to see things like monthly revenue, expenditures and available cash. That's very sensitive data. If each customer payment has it's own address, and multiple customer payments are aggregated only when a purchase must be made, extracting similar data as in the previous case becomes impossible.

How does it become impossible? Because it's more obscure? Anyone who wants to partake in bitcoin industrial espionage is not going to have much difficulty following the money. I think the unfortunate eventuality is that businesses will be forced to use bitcoin "banks" that will effectively hide any data specific to them. There will have to be an abstraction layer from the protocol itself. Otherwise the possibility of learning too much about their private data will always be a possibility.
Under the current coin-selection rules used by most clients, this is only presently the case. A business could, instead, make their payments in chunks to several different addresses over several different transactions over multiple days. All except for the last transaction wouldn't contain a change output. However, the other transactions could also include a fake change output that really also just goes to another one of the addresses of the person they're paying, another one of their own wallets that would never again be mixed with the receiving wallet, or even better, someone else that they have to pay.

With such a setup, the most you can learn about are the other transaction outputs that were combined with yours. Even then, they don't even need to do that and just send each output entirely to another unique address.

If you spot any holes in this, I can think of ways to complicate it further.
1709  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: worth the wait? on: March 29, 2012, 04:44:51 PM
jbgc, here's how I'd think of it, if I were you. In order to remove your emotional attachment, consider the $3400 as a loss and let it go. Pretend that you just bought into bitcoin with $1600, instead. Do you feel that $4.79 is too high? Or do you feel that it's too low? Remember to forget what the price was in the past, and only remember what it is now.

Given that you're investing long-term, you don't need to worry so much about the technicals, are are instead able to focus more on the fundamentals. Do you see a need that still hasn't been filled by Bitcoin? Do you see improvements that can still be made? If your answer to these is "yes", and you're able to commit this money for at least 10 years, I'd say stick with it. If you don't see much growth for bitcoin from how it is now, or if you suspect that you'll need the money in the next year (at least), get out now or at least start treating this as a short-term investment (which means following the technicals, etc.). If you don't have investment experience and you feel like you will need to shift this to a short-term investment, speak to a financial advisor.
1710  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] Home-made granola on: March 29, 2012, 04:24:01 PM
From another one of my friends: "It's oaty. I like it, but someone who isn't a huge fan of oats might not."

While I agree, I sort of believe that it's the oaty flavor that makes them so addicting.
1711  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it safe to break out the 10:1? on: March 29, 2012, 04:02:52 PM
His long looks too small to me for anyone to bother stop hunting though. If he shopped it, wouldn’t he make it so much that it was worthwhile?
Well, those 1337's sure make it look shopped. I really don't know with Atlas anymore...
1712  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: First-Come First-Served - Round 2 [be quick!] (free btc) on: March 29, 2012, 05:43:17 AM
how about this for a variation on the game (sorry not much there yet, i'm away from my wallet):



Solved. The image that I actually scanned into my phone is below:



I was mainly just curious if I could do it  Undecided Breaking it into layers really sucked...
1713  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it safe to break out the 10:1? on: March 29, 2012, 04:42:57 AM
If the math in Bitcoinica Helper is correct, the liquidation price is 4.4913.

bid - ((net_value - maintenance)/(amount + btc)) =
4.75225 - ((475.07 - 189.18)/(982.21337 + 113.21337))
1714  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] Home-made granola on: March 29, 2012, 01:18:41 AM
It is a crunchy granola with plenty of nuts, seeds, and other healthy things.  There are lots of large chunks so it is easy to eat as a snack.  You can taste the honey and brown sugar, but it is subtle.  Mostly you taste the nuts and things.  Once we started eating it, we just kept going back to it.  "Strangely addicting" was my wife's comment.
I agree with this completely! "Strangely addicting", indeed. I like how there are large bar-like chunks. It's so easy to eat that you just feel like grabbing one more piece. I ate 1/2 lb of the stuff over 15 minutes before I forced myself to stop!

As for one of my friends, who consumes far more granola than I, he said that he could really taste the honey, and he enjoyed the natural flavor (I purposely didn't tell him much about it at first so I could get the best feedback). He didn't like how it crumbled in his mouth (not much you could/should do about that), but more importantly, he said that it "lacked a distinct flavor". Overall, however, he enjoyed it very much.
1715  Other / Off-topic / Re: Atlas / Immanuel Go / Ragnar / ALPHA. / Boss / Jon on: March 28, 2012, 04:55:04 AM
As much as I love Matthew's provocative posts, Atlas could just use local thread rules to prevent ad hominem attacks. He could.
If you've read practically any of his posts, you'd already know that that would go against everything he believes in.
1716  Economy / Services / Re: Shades Minoco / Shakaru / Collections / Debt on: March 28, 2012, 04:39:02 AM
Just for the record, I went through and fixed the last 2 pages of Freeway's posts to fix the quotes. No content was removed or modified.
1717  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1BTC1oo1J3MEt5SFj74ZBcF2Mk97Aah4ac & Google Search on: March 27, 2012, 04:29:16 AM
MtGox, of course!

1VayNert3x1KzbpzMGt2qdqrAThiRovi8
1718  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: [SCAMMER] USER: Zombie (Now accepting CLAIMS) on: March 27, 2012, 03:31:33 AM
So far I only see two claims: the xbox one and the LR one. Please let me know when these are resolved.
1719  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: MtGox: transfer happens but doesn't show up on blockexplorer on: March 27, 2012, 12:30:12 AM
Unless you check the Open Transaction box on the withdrawal screen, if the address you enter is connected to another MtGox account, it will be deposited into that account instantly and without hitting the blockchain. If you have a transaction that needs to be public, always check that box just in case the receiver is using a MtGox address.
1720  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Forgetting the forgetful on: March 27, 2012, 12:19:49 AM
Quick question, what is this proposal really trying to solve? My reply to you, gmaxwell, depends on what you answer to that question. Your answer appears to be "botnets mining without a copy of the blockchain", however, I'm curious how that is a bad thing (for the network as a whole). I suspect that it has to do with how we'd be using SPV clients in the future, but I want to know what you think.
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