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2521  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 04, 2023, 09:16:31 PM
Manchester United didn't do well in the beginning of the season last year and they are doing the same this season. In the last two games they lost unexpectedly vs Crystal Palace in EPL and Galatasaray in Champions League. Defensive errors are unforgivable in such highly intense competitions and injuries couldn't be an excuse there.
Their next two games aren't that hard before returning again in Champions League and facing just next Manchester City. I am not very optimistic about them in Champions League nor vs City.

United were so-so all last season, only the urgent transfer of Casemiro improved the situation a little. This season, Ten Hag got everyone he wanted, for example, he got rid of the legend De Hea in favor of Onana, who is still showing a clown performance. And the results are only getting worse. In general, United play as if they have no coach at all.
2522  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [banned mixer] 🦁 Fantasy Premier League Pool ⚽ Discussion Thread on: October 04, 2023, 03:10:34 PM
I tried, but looking at their fixtures list, Rashford simply has to do something soon. In their next 6 games they have City and 5 bottom of the league clubs.
I hate myself for even selecting him, but he already dropped 0.2 points in price. Hopefully he does something, rises a bit and then I sell him after the Everton game.

 Grin Same. I expected United to play poorly (though not as badly as they actually play), but I thought that Rashford would earn points. But it seems that after re-signing the contract with a significant increase in salary, he no longer worries about anything and for now he is dragging my team to the bottom. Who do you plan to replace him with?
2523  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 04, 2023, 03:05:31 PM
Cagilari are not the strongest team in Serie A. Even, currently they are at bottom in standings, and I think Roma can win surely and steal three points with or without Lukaku. But if Mourinho plays Lukaku then that will be a good for him, but also if he can score a lot in that match. Lukaku still has sharpness in scoring, there is no doubt but sometimes his performance is unstable.

Cagliari are on the last line of the tournament table and they have a terrible goal difference of 2-12 (lol), but, paradoxically, the quotes at the moment are as follows:

4.60 - 3.45 - 1.87

1.87 for Roma's victory?! Isn't that a value bet? It seems to me that no matter how bad Roma is and no matter what problems it has with its squad, the coefficient should be less generous.
2524  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 04, 2023, 02:59:19 PM
Al Nassr are among the favorite team clinching for title, the Knights of Najd is elite club who want the very best results in SPL. With the presence of frontline vital players, Cristiano Ronaldo, Sadio Mane and Talisca, scoring goals have been made easy for the team. They have ultimate targets to hits this season, moving into more considerable essential spots on SPL table with the aides of frontlines who doesn't relent in games. Al Nassr keeps consistent winning this season, they're able to achieved it because of the star line-ups, who are ready to take the team to next level.

It’s quite interesting that Al Hilal is rated almost twice as good as Al Nasr, although in my opinion these clubs are not very different in strength and the arrival of Neymar rather weakened Al Hilal. Currently the bookmaker's quotes are as follows:

AL Hilal  2.72

AL Ittihad FC 3.40

AL Nassr FC 4.90

AL Ahli Saudi FC 6.85

AL Ettifaq FC 16.00

Maybe they reflect the tournament position of the teams, but I think that in just a couple of rounds everything can change radically.
2525  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: October 04, 2023, 02:51:58 PM
MD2 table is updated!

Sadly, we had everyone submit on MD1 but 4 people missed MD2. I honestly wanted to PM but I was out all day, and couldn't reliably do so. Don't worry though, MD1 had many zero scores, it's not a bad day to miss: jayce, KTChampions, M1cha3lM, icopress. rohang
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 Cry Oh. I probably would have made a safe bet and probably wouldn’t have earned as much as those who took the risk and guessed right, but it hurts to miss a round. For some reason I completely forgot about this forecast.

United lost to Galatasaray. Erik ten Hag's sacking must be imminent. I've never seen Manchester United play so badly, especially after selling Fred to Fenerbahce, and I'd say there's been a general lack of performance from them. If I'm not mistaken, I've staked heavily on Manchester United and Arsenal, but with both of them losing, it looks like I won't get many points this week.

Unfortunately, the club management today expressed support for this clown. But as we know, words don’t mean anything and there is hope that now they are just looking for a normal option and Ten Hag is already a temporary coach. I wonder if he has a conscience and if he can leave on his own, how bad results are needed for him to think about it?
2526  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Odds, units advantage | Sportsbook | +91147 units on: October 04, 2023, 02:42:39 PM
Finally, we have our first win. It wasn't pretty, but hugely damaging for United with Case,iro's sending off, and Galatasaray's enjoying their first European away win in ten years!
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Congratulations! I'm still rooting against United (and will do so until Ten Hag is fired) but even in my wildest dreams I couldn't imagine United losing to Galatasaray at Old Trafford. With each game, United updates its historical anti-records and today I was surprised by the news where it was said that Ten Hag would not be sacked regardless of the results this season. Well... it’s unpleasant for me as a United fan, but there is a whole season to make profitable bets against this club.
2527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Before you take sides on: October 03, 2023, 08:31:23 PM
We all know how people used to be protective when trying to explain how someone treated them badly, they always want to be the winner and if you are not smart you can fight the wrong war for them, later you will find out that they are the problem.

Gamblers are telling stories about how they got banned because they are winning too much, I will like to tell you not to believe everything people tell you, these stories typically have another side of the story, there is a high probability that these gamblers have broken some rules along the way.

For reputable casinos, banning players that have won a lot of money legally is bad for their business, the casinos knows that the word of the mouth spreads faster than anything, so I believe that a reputable casino do their strong research before they use their ban hammer.

Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.

I’ll tell you more: casinos are interested in having players who win a lot out of nothing. This does not change their average income in any way, but serves as the most effective advertising - after all, everyone will know about such cases. No one is interested when some millionaire wins a couple of millions making huge bets, but when an ordinary person hits the jackpot, it attracts attention.
2528  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 03, 2023, 08:20:19 PM
Currently, Cristiano Ronaldo is 38 years old with still a good and fit for this game even few are feeling he is getting old, but I have feeling still he can do 2 or 3 years in soccer with this fitness and physical fitness like we have few good legendary players done good performance at the age of 40+ but surely he is super fit with many goals and trophies are waiting for him in recent time his change of league is surely going to work for him because Saudi Pro League is not competitive like we have in UEFA which is good because with this he will be able to take good rest and this is positive for his future and physical fitness as well.

Al Nassr now having few more good stars which are useful and able to give support which is also important because with this any player can feel comfortable and this can bring good long run advantage for the player and team as well.

It would be interesting to see if Ronaldo played for three more seasons. If I'm not mistaken, he already has a little less than 900 goals scored in official games and he is already first in this indicator. The pace at which he is scoring goals for Al-Nassr suggests that he can reach the figure of 1000!  Shocked It seems to me that such numbers, on the one hand, can inspire young players, but on the other hand, they will rather scare them  Grin
2529  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 03, 2023, 08:13:00 PM
The reasons are obvious why Serie A had 3 teams on 3 finals last year as well, competitive teams make each other competitive. Doesn't matter how many of them won, did premier league have 3 out of 3? Did la liga? You make some teams amazing in those leagues and then expect them to make finals but they can make only one, or if they are lucky maybe two, but that's about it. Instead of that, we had all three teams go as further as possible.

This means that Serie A is filled with teams that are equal and filled with teams that could play very well in all competitions as well. Milan, Napoli, and obviously Inter did great at UCL, they had Roma at the finals of Europa as well. This shows that it's a fun league to watch and there will always be some teams that will do wonders at the European competitions.

One good season and you're lauding Serie A. I don't think this is justified. It’s one thing that Serie A itself is interesting since there are several teams fighting for the title and the teams are unstable, which tickles the nerves and gives adrenaline, but another thing is that in the international arena Serie A cannot compare with the top leagues. If you compare the strength of the leagues, then only success in the Champions League can mean something. Last year the Italian clubs had a very lucky run where they mostly played weak teams, but this will not be repeated every year.
2530  Local / Майнеры / Re: Майнинг здох? on: October 03, 2023, 08:04:47 PM
Не так все просто и промышленных майнеров:

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Даже беглая проверка по открытым источникам показывает, что сейчас в суде находятся два иска к BitRiver: на 534,7 млн рублей от ООО «21 Век» и на 7,9 млн рублей от АО «Улан-Удэнский авиационный завод». У компании имеются просроченные задолженности по арендным платежам свыше 850 млн рублей где наименьшая задолженность составляет менее 1,5 млн рублей. Причем за аренду компания не платит системно: если в 2021 году просрочка достигала 50 млн рублей, в 2022 году 250 млн рублей, то в 2023 году уже рекордных 850 млн рублей. Более того, есть сведения о налоговых претензиях со стороны государства почти на 1 млрд рублей по подозрению в занижении базы налога на прибыль и получения необоснованного вычета по НДС.

Получается «крупнейший» блокчейн дата-центр в СНГ не может погасить долг по аренде меньше 1,5 млн или выплатить по контракту 8 млн за поставку оборудования.
Это еще не вспоминаем про ввоз по заниженной стоимости оборудования через Беларусь, на который таможня пока закрывает глаза.
https://t.me/s/vchkogpu

Чисто папуасская схема работы - пока крыша есть рвём максимально много бабла сколько получается (и в долг тоже нагребаем не стесняясь), а когда крыша кончится кредиторы получат рожки да ножки. Вот вам и крупнейший дата-центр в СНГ. Чет совсем на бизнес не похоже, скорее прачечная под красивой легендой.

эта идея с контролем расходов для меня как страшный сон. как я плачу ипотеку в 40 с зп в 20? Smiley если пойдет проверка расходов и соответствие доходам - многим станет очень грустно. а это не так уж сложно сделать.
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Кого хотят  закошмарить того кошмарят и без контроля расходов, куча других статей есть. Я не парюсь насчет этого - такой жесткач скорее убьет корову чем повысит надои.
2531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 03, 2023, 07:46:44 PM
MU's current performance is not improving, rumors of Ten Hag's dismissal is now become a headline. There are several names currently linked with MU, including Conte, Zidane and Solskjaer. Solskjaer gave MU the best performance as EPL runner-up. If Solskjaer is right become MU coach once again, it means that MU does not have serious plans to restore their glory as EPL rulers in the Sir Fergie era.

Ibrahimovic recently repeated what I already wrote about Ten Hag - he is not ready to coach top clubs, his ceiling is Ajax where there are talented players but no stars, so the coach can pretend to be a boss without any diplomacy.
Zidane will definitely not go to a crisis club (any club), especially in the Premier League and especially United. If the rumors are true, then he can only wait for the next sheikhs to buy Marseille and hire him there.
2532  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 03, 2023, 07:37:22 PM
Braga stole the win in the final extra minutes of the game with a low struck shot from outside the penalty box by the substitute Andre Castro. The Union Berlin stretched to try get it, but the ball was too far for his reach. Very painful and not the ending that the fans could have expected at the ending. Union Berlin will remain at the bottom of the group C. The other teams in the group play the next, Napoli and Real Madrid, One strong Italian team, the champions of the Italian league from last season against a rejuvenated Real Madrid team. The teams need a win, so it will be a serious game.

Impressive comeback. I would like to know what the odds were for Braga’s victory at that moment when the score was already in favor of Union 2-0. Judging by how the game developed, Union spent all their energy on pressing and did not have enough strength in the second half. They still have 0 points after two games and I think that even for third place their chances are minimal.
2533  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 03, 2023, 05:34:42 PM
If Bayer's fans are so naive that they expect a Bundesliga title this year, then they needn't worry - if Alonso leaves, it won't be until next summer. Bayern are showing dubious results so far, but still their chances are higher than those of other clubs, take a look at the bookmakers’ quotes:

Bayern Munich 1.24

Bayer Leverkusen 9.50

RB Leipzig 11.00

Borussia Dortmund 12.00

No surprise to see bookies gave that small odds for munchen as this club has been winning this league for more than 1 decade. To be honest, if leverkusen has a very big chance of winning the trophy this season. The sense choice to pick bayern as the winner for this season but taking the risk to pick leverkusen was not that bad. The only possible club to recruit alonso was real madrid. I don't see another team who has been declaring their interest to recruit him.

Madrid already listed him as a potential replacement for ancellotti next season but i was not expecting ancellotti to leave from there in winter. He probably stays till end of this season.

It's pretty interesting to wait the performances from those clubs till the middle of this season.

These are not such small odds - last season they were mostly 1.05-1.06 even when everyone saw that Bayern was slipping a lot and was not what it was before.
9.50 is an excellent odds to take a risk, but not in the case of long-term bets - you can wait 15 years for the risk to pay off. Even if you win similar bets after 5 years, it is unlikely to bring joy.
As for Ancelotti, he will work till summer 100%, there is no reason to change him in the middle of the season, his replacement is just part of the renewal strategy for Real, so this will be done in the normal manner.
2534  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 03, 2023, 05:26:32 PM
Lamine Yamal is ready to sign a professional contract with a 3-year contract. This means that Yamal will be with Barcelona in these 3 years. Yamal is currently 16 years old. There is an interesting thing with the release clause. Lamine Yamal could be released for 1 billion euros or £867 million. It's a fantastic clause.
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Nothing fantastic. Real has long included release clause of this size in the contract, and if I’m not mistaken, the total number of players with such release clause is already more than 10. In addition, given the player’s young age, this could be a simple advertising ploy.

Yes, I saw similar information for example here:

https://www.eurosport.com/football/transfers/2023-2024/barcelona-target-jason-sancho-and-anthony-martial-as-they-face-mounting-problems-paper-round_sto9816281/story.shtml

It's funny that Barcelona, experiencing financial difficulties, is trying to collect from the market everyone who has fallen out of favor in their current club  Grin An interesting strategy, but for example, I’m not at all sure that even if United makes a discount, Sancho’s price will be feasible for Barcelona. In addition, acquisitions of such players carry increased risks.

The finalcial problems have not been sorted our by barcelona. This club is always buying without seilling players with realiable price. Im still questioning how can barcelona pay its debt if the club keeps show bad habit like this.
Buying those players will be only wasteful for the club. Barcelona probably seeks for lewandowski's replacement. The club was also trying to get the right back up once lewandowski may face injury.

Barcelona would become a savior for those guys if the club will be really signing them all but i thought if that will not even happen. Barcelona needs to solve its financial problem before try to search for another players to be recruited.
The club can't keep selling its broadcasting right to comply with FFP rules.

It is difficult to say who benefits more from such transfers, the players or the club. For example, Lewandowski, instead of the Champions League playoffs, which was as common an activity for him as training or having breakfast, ended up in the Europa League  Grin
Probably each situation is individual, but now I would not risk moving to Barcelona - after all, you can even end up in the Segunda if they are proven guilty of bribing referees  Grin
2535  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: New ID requirements for Gamblers in Australia on: October 03, 2023, 05:14:22 PM
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If a minor takes the ID of their relative who is of legal age and is discovered by some bad luck, who will be punished in this case if the minor cannot be arrested or suffer any other sanction? I don't know what Australian laws are like, but in my country minors have immunity and cannot be arrested.

It is not necessary to arrest a person in order to punish a person. Scenarios can be different - from a fine for parents (who are responsible for their child) to an obligation to attend lectures on the dangers of gambling or something like that and to report weekly to the police or to child supervision (in each country these organizations have a different name).
Another question is whether the casino will return the money if it was lost by a child who had no right to do so at all  Grin
2536  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 03, 2023, 05:08:05 PM
It can be easy to solve financial problems when one day you decide to live according to your income. But if you have already accumulated huge debts (like Barcelona) then this is a different case. Plus, the scandal about bribing referees is gaining momentum and this affects the image of the club; if bribery is proven, the club will simply go bankrupt.
Barcelona has a very precarious position and it is difficult to say how this will end.
As for the Champions League, it is not among the favorites, but rather among the clubs among which anyone can win.

That's an interesting theory about Barcelona's bankruptcy in case they are found guilty. I believe that in European soccer there are a few clubs that are too big too fail and Barcelona is still vital for La Liga. Not as much as a few years ago, but too much to let them fall. I guess the clasico has too much of a global meaning in many respects and not least financially and for promotion of the league. Manchester City and the Premier League is the same. Their financial issues have been going on for over half a decade and in the end hardly anything will happen.

The problem is that if one club is nuked for some wrongdoings and then other clubs have to be judged by the same standard, the UEFA must fear that their competitions loses appeal. It's the same when players like Ronaldo or Messi during their prime would never get suspended for anything because they are too important.

I think that this is not a theory but simple mathematics: if Barcelona is found guilty, then the minimum punishment is being sent to the Segunda Division and being suspended from European competition for several seasons. This automatically leads to a large loss in earnings, and even if we do not take into account possible breaks in sponsorship contracts, it will definitely bankrupt Barcelona since their debts are huge.
As for your "too big to fall" talk, yes, it's true. I already wrote that even Real Madrid will try to whitewash Barcelona (even if they are guilty) simply because they have a joint business. There is no smell of justice here.
2537  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can money be saved in gambling sites? on: October 03, 2023, 05:01:06 PM
All this is logical and obvious for crypto users, but many people still use only fiat. For them, in fact, there is practically no choice: any non-cash form of storing money carries the risk that problems will arise with the one who holds this money. Storing cash also carries risks (not only theft but also other accidents, such as fire for example), plus if you really have a lot of money, you definitely won’t store it in a cash.
This is a gambling discussion but let me say some off-topic things about storing fiat money in cash. It is obviously not the best idea and any smart person won't do it. As you mentioned the risks, are accidents. But there are much more complicated stuff that happens but only those who know about them are the smart one. For example, money is highly affected by inflation. It happens but those who are not aware of it will always fall for it. The price of things gets higher but not from 10- 20. It rises slowly like 12-14-15-18-20. And as we buy those stuff we get used to it. The price is high but we need that product. So we ignore it and buy it. And the value of stored money gets lower.

The best way to save money and increase it's value is to put it in some investment. That way, you keep the real value while making profits out of it. I think every successful person does this and we should do it too. Putting money into casino wallets for safe keeping does not make sense.

Why? I can assume that my casino wallet will be available in most countries (even if I have to turn on VPN sometimes) but my money in other non-cash form can be easily banned (and in some places they have already been banned) - I’m from Russia, so in practice I’m familiar with what I'm talking about. All cases are different and, accordingly, the solutions are also different. As for investments, they are pointless until you have a serious amount of money.
2538  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Новый тренд майнинга 2021(HDD и SSD) on: October 03, 2023, 04:35:35 PM
У разработчиков есть нафармленные монеты, но если у них 2 миллиона из 8 то по моему по этой цене не очень выгодно лить. 40-50 миллионов проект не спасут а только увеличат агонию перед смертью, или они избавились от ненужных расходов. Я читал что им проще эти деньги привлечь у инвесторов, чем так сильно опускать цену монеты.
Apytioh в это вложился большой суммой и рискует остаться с ненужными НДД и дешёвыми монетами.

Когда проект/бизнес/и даже человек сдыхает тут вопрос не в том, что "да это ж невыгодно! будет жить!"  Wink

От Apytioh было бы интересно услышать (и это как раз бы соответствовало теме треда) о судьбе форков/аналогичных монет (их можно было майнить параллельно с Чией а значит много у кого они есть), которых еще когда он активно фармил было уже около 500. Хотя бы одна не сдохла?
2539  Local / Новички / Re: Как я пришел в криптобизнес, и продолжаю зk on: October 03, 2023, 04:27:55 PM
Хомяков то нужно как нибудь из монеты выгнать, я даже подобрать по 24 планирую Smiley

Ордера то расставили? Цена весь день в диапазоне 24,1-24,4 ходит, уже можете добирать  Cheesy
Только я б сначала лучше предмет изучил с майнерской точки зрения - лично мне показалось что дохрена майнеров будут довольны даже по 20$ сливать монету (ссылок не будет).

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Поэтому Chia, вероятно, сейчас пытается перестроиться, изменить свою работу с учётом новых реальностей. Если у неё это получится, то покупка по 24 доллара США, возможно станет очень прибыльной инвестицией в будущем. Рано или поздно мы же всё равно выйдем на бычий рынок.

Лучше Битконнект покупать, ну или на худой конец Луну классик/уст  Grin От нуля всегда будут бОльшие иксы чем от какой-то вещественной цены.
2540  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Новый тренд майнинга 2021(HDD и SSD) on: October 03, 2023, 04:27:51 AM
Немного подзабыли криптаны эту любопытную тему, но как то не очень она звучит.
И ещё есть и немного настораживающие новости о команде. Новости о том, что уволена треть сотрудников проекта из 70- ти работающих на проект спецов уволили 26 человек.
По моему это довольно таки  нехороший симптом.  Sad

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Так случайно получилось что тема Chia обсуждается конкретно здесь:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241187.

Чисто по моему мнению проект скаманул. Концепция провалилась и проект плох буквально со всех сторон. Неудивительно что цена монеты идёт строго вниз - вот сегодня ночью ATL обновили (плюс видимо новый упрощённый майнинг давит на цену). Ну а с такими новостями отскока ждать не стоит.
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