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2801  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2017, 04:43:04 PM
Another Euro-ATH...

If Bitcoin performs like this on a Saturday, then I'm looking forward to the coming Monday...

Go BTC go!
2802  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2017, 04:00:33 PM
Changelly accepts BTG. Has anyone used them? They look reputable, and cool too.

https://changelly.com/

I'm drooling for some more BTC from the BTG airdrop I got today. Or should I wait for an imminent BTG super-pump?

Used them quite a bit. 9/10 always good and reasonably quick. Occasionally they have delays with LTC or even BTC when Jihan Wu decides to play Bitcoin God.

Just to confirm, for everyone's FYI, that I've just sold some of my BTG using Changelly, and everything went flawlessly, and quite fast for the kind of service it provides. Well done Changelly!

for me personally Changelly will for ever remain as "the biggest ripoff" that anyone did to me on internet. I bought a few months back with credit some crypo and i was absolutely shocked how much fee i paid because i paid with credit card. There was a warning there is extra fee (but at same point they stated their conversion is best on internet), but it wasnt stated what kind of fee will be. I paid  35 to 40% fee as i recall. Ripoff from Changelly. I will never forget them because it was so awfull

Wow, that's a lot of fees you paid, sorry to hear about it! I just did a crypto-to-crypto transaction, in which case the fee is 0.5%, which I think is reasonable. My guess is that credit cards are a risk to them due to chargebacks, so they counterbalance this with high fees. Are the fees still that high for credit cards?
2803  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2017, 03:39:13 PM
Changelly accepts BTG. Has anyone used them? They look reputable, and cool too.

https://changelly.com/

I'm drooling for some more BTC from the BTG airdrop I got today. Or should I wait for an imminent BTG super-pump?

Used them quite a bit. 9/10 always good and reasonably quick. Occasionally they have delays with LTC or even BTC when Jihan Wu decides to play Bitcoin God.

Just to confirm, for everyone's FYI, that I've just sold some of my BTG using Changelly, and everything went flawlessly, and quite fast for the kind of service it provides. Well done Changelly!
2804  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2017, 01:41:44 PM
Euro-ATH @ Kraken!

7149.90 €

The wall at 7150 € is almost 200 BTC high... Will be be demolished today?

Oh yes, it will!

Done!

Euro-ATH @ exactly 7150 €.
2805  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2017, 01:25:34 PM
Euro-ATH @ Kraken!

7149.90 €

The wall at 7150 € is almost 200 BTC high... Will be be demolished today?

Oh yes, it will!
2806  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2017, 08:58:32 AM
Kraken is pumping too, but lagging behind...

No ATH (yet) for Euro-land...


Pirate!
Pirate Party
Pirate Bay
Get it?

I was making fun of the guy.

I had more respect for him, until I read that "Letter from the CEO" thing...

https://www.bitcoincash.org/letter-from-the-ceo.pdf

Sad...
2807  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2017, 02:22:32 PM
Noooo, BCash doesn't have a CEO, it was all just a joke you guys...



Lol

Hang on! I thought that guy had only one functioning eye! WTF?

2808  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2017, 08:34:01 AM
Is that an ATH?

Not yet, for Euro-land.

Euro-ATH (@ Kraken) is currently at 7115 €.

Now at 7020 €, still some gap left to cover, but getting there.

Carolina may be coming to sweeten our nights tonight...
2809  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2017, 08:12:36 AM
True Story Time:

I was talking to a old buddy of mine the other day who is a loan officer. This is an older gentleman that has been in the business of giving out bank loans, and has been doing so for decades. Months in and out, year after year, he talks to customers about them liquidating assets or other investments as down payment on loans, and has heard them talk of liquidating pretty much every type of investment known: stock, houses, land, cars, gold, silver, collectables, equipment, etc. You name it, he's probably heard it.

But when the words "cryptocurrency" and "Bitcoin" came up in our conversation, I was shocked. He replied "Wait...crypto...currency? What's that? That's a new one on me. Is that like Euros or something?" He had never even heard of it. He had no idea what Bitcoin was. And this is a finance guy working at a lender that routinely reads financial news and such on the internet.

It just made me realize: We have SO far to go still. Such early adopters are we.

I cashed out 400 bitcoins to put toward a downpayment on my house. Back in 2012. When the price was $12.

He who can't tell a true story of Laszlo's for himself has never been and could never be considered an early bitcoin adopter.
I think most of us here have a Laszlo story to tell.

But we are here  Wink

I personally bought a $100 amazon gift card for 3 BTC and thought I was smart.
Cheesy

I'm not an early adopter, though this is debatable, as one can argue that all of us are early adopters, even those joining now.

My only story, not nearly as exciting as yours: about a year ago I bought a TREZOR for 0.13 BTC. Now it's got to be one of the most valuable TREZORs in existence, valued today at a whopping 900 € ($1000).
You could make that point for literally anything you buy. Imagine how much your rent was last year in today's BTC price. Roll Eyes

Basically, this translates to the usual advice "never sell BTC". What I could have done is to keep my 0.13 BTC and just use my credit card to buy the TREZOR. I would now be 800 € richer. This is equivalent to converting some of my fiat money to 0.13 BTC at that time, and keeping it, which I didn't.

In other words, if you have two bags, one with fiat and another with BTC, using the fiat bag first will make you richer in the end. Which BTW goes against actually using BTC for everyday things, which hinders its widespread adoption, which is bad for BTC, but perhaps it's still early days for such use. We're all early adopters it seems. This is just the beginning.
2810  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2017, 07:45:24 AM
True Story Time:

I was talking to a old buddy of mine the other day who is a loan officer. This is an older gentleman that has been in the business of giving out bank loans, and has been doing so for decades. Months in and out, year after year, he talks to customers about them liquidating assets or other investments as down payment on loans, and has heard them talk of liquidating pretty much every type of investment known: stock, houses, land, cars, gold, silver, collectables, equipment, etc. You name it, he's probably heard it.

But when the words "cryptocurrency" and "Bitcoin" came up in our conversation, I was shocked. He replied "Wait...crypto...currency? What's that? That's a new one on me. Is that like Euros or something?" He had never even heard of it. He had no idea what Bitcoin was. And this is a finance guy working at a lender that routinely reads financial news and such on the internet.

It just made me realize: We have SO far to go still. Such early adopters are we.

I cashed out 400 bitcoins to put toward a downpayment on my house. Back in 2012. When the price was $12.

He who can't tell a true story of Laszlo's for himself has never been and could never be considered an early bitcoin adopter.
I think most of us here have a Laszlo story to tell.

But we are here  Wink

I personally bought a $100 amazon gift card for 3 BTC and thought I was smart.
Cheesy

I'm not an early adopter, though this is debatable, as one can argue that all of us are early adopters, even those joining now.

My only story, not nearly as exciting as yours: about a year ago I bought a TREZOR for 0.13 BTC. Now it's got to be one of the most valuable TREZORs in existence, valued today at a whopping 900 € ($1000).
2811  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2017, 07:15:03 AM
When I read your post I decided to take a look at one of my old addresses that I got BTG from.
I had 2,90343491 on one address, I immediately sold them for BTC and got 0,05638211 BTC
Now, 2,90343491 BTG is today worth 833,63 USD and 0,05638211 BTC is worth 458,1 USD.
So I would have been better of hodling my BTG, however, in the long run BTC is going to outperform BTG big time, so I don't really care.
And you also have to consider that the less BTC you have, the less forkcoins and airdrops you will get.

Sorry if I made you do something that didn't turn out as profitable as it could have. Was obviously not my intention. But I believe any investment in BTC will pay out big in the coming months and years, so everything's fine I think.


Guys, have all of you sold your Bitcoin Gold (BTG)?
I don't believe it's had its super pump yet. I reckon you'd make more BTC or XMR waiting for that than buying XMR now but what does anyone know?

Well, it appears that your prediction has come true. I held on to my BTG, not because I want them, but because I had to do some other things at home y'day, and could not be close to the PC to do the trade. Now I wake up and see the price of BTG surging...
2812  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2017, 05:53:27 PM
So tomorrow we will get a new fork, Bitcoin Diamond.

Coming in at block 495866.

This fork shit is getting insane.

http://www.btcd.io/index.html

Their site looks almost the same as those canned forks we've had before (BCH, BTG). And nobody seems to care about proofreading it. I just very quickly scanned trough the main page and spotted a typo in under 10 seconds:

WALLTETS

Also, the development team is a bunch of very well known and reputable folk in the coding community, with ties to the British MI6 mind you! I'm very reassured now...

2813  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2017, 11:37:36 AM
You are talking to someone who sold his Bcash @0.08 BTC because it didn’t look like it was going anywhere.

So personally I am going to hold onto my Bitgold and see if a market develops. Besides it’s currently worth bugger all so wouldn’t make much difference.  Also despite the pre-mine and promoters, it could be a natural hedge if something really stupid happens. So I might hold it long term.

I already have about 5% of my portfolio in Monero, 1% in Aeon which is long shot Monero fork with a tiny $37 million market cap and 5% in Ether.  I have a little bit of USD on exchange for opportunities and the balance is all bitcoin.  So I think there are real benefits in some modest diversification but none of that commodity token shit.  

Which probably isn’t very helpful but that’s what you get with free advice.  

Guys, have all of you sold your Bitcoin Gold (BTG)?

Extracted and retain all of mine.

Do what makes you happy.

Other than minute one Bittrex ridiculousness I don't believe it's had its super pump yet. I reckon you'd make more BTC or XMR waiting for that than buying XMR now but what does anyone know?

As it's free money you may as well sell a little now and waste it on a Robocop soap dispenser or something as a reward for being you.

Thanks guys, I appreciate your replies. I'll think about it. It's tempting to keep the airdropped BTG when one sees the BCH airdrop "doing so well" lately. Bu we all know why, and who's behind it. About BTG, when I consider its history (ugly and poorly written initial website, inability to write a decent replay protection code, the premine period), I can't see it as a serious project, but more as a money-making scheme for its creators. OTOH, projects like Monero are much more refined and serve a real purpose (in Monero's case, complete anonymity and privacy).
2814  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2017, 10:47:26 AM
I hope that this is true and Jihan will get rekt

Oh, rest assured. Jihan will get his comeuppance soon.

It's just a matter of time at this point, and karma can be a real cunt.

Learned a new word today... Yesterday's one was "ameliorate" from one of JJG's posts. Isn't this thread great?

I really hope Wu will soon get what's coming to him. I hate seeing his coin in 4-digit values...
2815  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2017, 10:20:28 AM
Guys, have all of you sold your Bitcoin Gold (BTG)?

I'm itching to sell them now, and do the following:

1. Buy Monero,
2. Buy more BTC.

What would you recommend? Should I sell my BTG now, or wait for a pump? And if I should sell now, which one of the two options would you recommend? I know this is altcoin territory, but it feels natural to ask here as I value your wisdom and opinion, and I'm sure many of you HoDL some altcoins in addition to BTC.

So, Bitcoiners, wait or sell your Gold, and what to buy?
2816  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2017, 10:08:58 AM
aww a depreciating asset, i'm sure they'll be stoked

Awww... I've read this so many times before, in this very forum...

When BTC was at $10 it was way overpriced and we should have sold...
When BTC was at $100 it was a bubble ready to pop and we should have sold...
When BTC was at $1000 it was whales manipulating the price and we should have sold...
Now BTC is at $8000+ it's a depreciating asset and we should sell...
When BTC will be at $25000 [...add FUD text here...]
When BTC will be at $100000 [...add FUD text here...]
...

Verba volant, scripta manent.
2817  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 21, 2017, 11:44:01 PM
Changelly accepts BTG. Has anyone used them? They look reputable, and cool too.

https://changelly.com/

I'm drooling for some more BTC from the BTG airdrop I got today. Or should I wait for an imminent BTG super-pump?

Used them quite a bit. 9/10 always good and reasonably quick. Occasionally they have delays with LTC or even BTC when Jihan Wu decides to play Bitcoin God.

Thanks, good to know. Because Kraken don't list BTG yet, and even if they did, they are almost unusable lately...
2818  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 21, 2017, 11:05:47 PM
Changelly accepts BTG. Has anyone used them? They look reputable, and cool too.

https://changelly.com/

I'm drooling for some more BTC from the BTG airdrop I got today. Or should I wait for an imminent BTG super-pump?
2819  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 21, 2017, 10:55:37 PM
Bitcoin down to $8135. Is Bitcoin dying?

Bitcoin up to $8153.  Is Bitcoin a bubble?

Bitcoin still  $8153. Is Bitcoin getting stable?

Bitcoin $8081.  Bitcoin is dead.

I was wondering where those "Is Crypto done?" messages were.  Grin

Let's all pump Doge. Give the dog a chance... Woof woof!
2820  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 21, 2017, 09:22:33 PM
So hey, is super bitcoin an actual thing that someone is making or just a joke?

Who wouldn't want a super one? I love super things. They'll have a super premine too.

And supergirls too. Freshly mined and ready.

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