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2001  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 27, 2020, 04:56:13 PM
A dialog between Bitcoin and the bears...

https://youtu.be/x2WK_eWihdU
2002  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 27, 2020, 04:51:01 PM
It's happening, guys 'n' gal...

This just feels so right... It has to be the one!
2003  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 27, 2020, 04:36:08 PM
Guys 'n' gal...

It's pampening!
2004  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 27, 2020, 04:28:58 PM
...but his mind was all rusted...
...it was Masterluc he trusted...

[...]

And if all of the above hasn't made you, mindrust,
Reconsider, and quickly get some corn in your stash,
It won't be r0aches or ants,
At the seat of your pants,
But the boot of a HoDLer in your stubborn fat ass!
2005  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 27, 2020, 03:44:05 PM
Looks like this is the beginning of something BIG...

No Bart in sight...

Not surprised... We all know where BTC is going to be in the (near) future. It's just happening.

Onwards & UPwards.
2006  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 26, 2020, 11:02:51 AM
Looks like I'll soon be wearing my 5-digit hat.

But not just yet, got to use hysteresis, or else I'll be changing hats faster than the forum updates my avatar...

Threshold set to $11,000/BTC.
2007  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 26, 2020, 08:36:18 AM
I get a SOMA sense that a BULL run is imminent...

BULL run imminent...
Seat-of-my-pants kinda guess.
Strictly NO homo!

#haiku
2008  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 25, 2020, 02:19:34 PM


Jeeezus...
There's a lot to unpack in there ....

Maybe have a "Best caption for this Pic" contest.

$100k party. Grin
2009  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 22, 2020, 08:21:33 PM
Taking a sort of ad hominem stance by calling people who validate the protocol and transactions on the bitcoin network "irresponsible neckbeard hobbyists unable to make the proper life choices to enable them to leave mommy's basement" is not helpful or realistic IMHO.

Nope its called a strawman (wrapped in a red herring) and is a tactic Jbear falls back on when he is losing an argument. Logic fallacies are the shield liars, thiefs and schemers hide behind rather than admit their true goals.

We all know those "neckbeards" created bitcoin to protect against the centralist bankers that BSV is bootlicking.

It also hurts my soul that JB is parroting the talking points of the BSV drones. I mean, it's one thing if the argument is valid. But this is just as bad as the "thousand socks of nullc" talking point (quite the neckbeard by the way...).

And that's just it.  No one is making a coherent argument for that fork.  They bring up "protocol set in stone" as they change it.  They fall back on "Law(l) and courts".  Often you get to hear the "So many people are not smart enough to get it" or the "DYOR" argument.  The the abominable "CSW is SN" garbage.

Another one of my favs is Calvin running around accusing people LEFT AND RIGHT of being paid trolls.  I think Kevin Pham was OBVIOUS in that regard, and I have my suspicions that possibly Daniel Krawictz also was in that category.  I have NO DOUBT that various twitter "influencers" received compensation for something like that.  And his proclaimations of paid trolls sort of ignores the FACT that Bitcoin niether NEEDS or even cares about paid trolls.

What bitcoin HAS done is chew up and spit out just about everyone who has ever either purposefully (Pirate@40, so many others) or accidentally (Carpeles) attacked it.

Think of it from Faketoshi's perspective and it all makes perfect sense. How would you go about getting access to bitcoins without private keys? Your only real option is to start a legal battle, get some judge's order to "assign" them to you, and in parallel try to centralize the miners so that you could try to enforce that order with minimal costs, the less miners/validating nodes there are the easier it would be to force them to comply thus you're more likely to succeed. Label everyone that doesn't agree a criminal

And if you really want to go down that line of thought look for whatever is behind CSW pushing that goal and what can be accomplished once a precedent of not immutable is set. Wink

This is why it is our obligation to protect decentralization and fight centralizing forces before they take root.

Sorry, I just had to enlarge your last sentence...
2010  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 22, 2020, 12:21:10 PM
I get all that, but this is not an argument of exchange vs. no exchange, even when you decide to use an exchange, you do have other options. Why not use exchange (with all the same issues/risks as above) but doesn't have a history of trying to fuck BTC any chance they get? Kraken/Gemini have all the same issues but don't seem to actively go out of their way to screw with BTC

[re:coinbase]

i was/am planning on opening a gemini account but last i went to join they wanted my login to my bank. no thanks, coinbase does the two random transaction and you just confirm them. did that like 7 years ago and been there ever since.

yeah they are getting draconian. but its solely an on/off ramp for me. i dont send/receive coins to <wherever> from coinbase (ie i dont use it as a wallet). i xfer out when i buy, xfer in when i want to sell. doesnt mean they cant freeze it if they dont like where they came from. i have signed messages for some coins - mining payout addys mainly - if needed (never needed to show that though), and coinbase supplied the others.

and i do keep a bit there for trading. such as it is lately.

but youre absolutely right, coinbase is going downhill as far as snooping/chainanalysis/tracking and such. government must be loving it.

ΙΜΗΟ, people often tend to exaggerate different issues they may have had, or have heard happening with exchanges. I've read many negative comments about Kraken. I've been with them for several years now, and have had an excellent customer service on the very few issues that arose. It is currently my no.1 choice of exchange.
2011  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2020, 03:34:12 PM
I just hope that it won't ever be necessary to add WO next to BCH & BSV
Who give a F**K to shitcoin?  

You didn't get me, but it's OK... Nobody gives a fuck about shitcoins, but we do give a fuck about WO...

All good, keep HoDLing and in a few months' time the thread will be flooded with Carolina memes, I'm sure of it.
2012  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2020, 01:53:22 PM
I just hope that it won't ever be necessary to add WO next to BCH & BSV:

2013  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2020, 05:47:56 AM
[...]

[...]

Just be positive, and that positivity will come back to you 100% guaranteed. Sounds so cliché, I know, but it's true and it works -- whenever you have a bad argument with someone, or break up a friendship, just ask yourself if you ever were even a tiny bit unfair or did something wrong. If the answer is Yes and/or you've had a rough sleep the night after the incident, just call that person the next morning, meet up and hug him/her. If he/she doesn't want to do it, fair enough, you move on with your life. But that second chance after things have cooled off is essential. Speaking from experience.

And, sometimes you have given that person enough chances, and when they continue to be in a "bridge burning" mood, you have to let that other person go, at some point.  No more chances.   Cry Cry Cry

[...]

Absolutely correct!
2014  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 19, 2020, 08:17:12 PM
JSRAW sealed the deal :-)
Is he a Legendary now?
No he is still Hero Member. Icygreen is Legendary now.
Congrats Icy.

When was the last time we were this  quiet?

Yeah, congrats to Icygreen, on rising through the WO ranks!

Very quiet indeed. It does feel that something has changed... Only one force can remedy this stagnation, and that force is Bitcoin. A pump to $10k+ would surely liven up the place. Not to mention $20k+...

HoDL strong brothers. It will come.

Just be positive, and that positivity will come back to you 100% guaranteed. Sounds so cliché, I know, but it's true and it works -- whenever you have a bad argument with someone, or break up a friendship, just ask yourself if you ever were even a tiny bit unfair or did something wrong. If the answer is Yes and/or you've had a rough sleep the night after the incident, just call that person the next morning, meet up and hug him/her. If he/she doesn't want to do it, fair enough, you move on with your life. But that second chance after things have cooled off is essential. Speaking from experience.
2015  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 19, 2020, 11:27:38 AM
Fewer hats too... Just quickly browsing...
2016  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 17, 2020, 05:28:04 PM
Got to run, friends waiting for a night out...

Just want to quickly squeeze this in, because RL is crazy lately...

Just wanted to say I'm sorry to see Bob go, if he finally goes. Not every WOer has top chemistry with every other WOer, but Bob was/is a strong voice in the thread, as are many others.

If it's opsec, fair enough.

If it's BTC getting stuck @ Vegeta prices, not a reason to leave IMO. It's not just BTC that matters here.

If it's the recent racial attacks, well, FUCK THEM (I'm so glad they stopped posting, let them stay out of WO for good). All the more reason to stay.

Anyway, looking fwd to the next mega-pump and I hope Bob is here to celebrate with us. I know he will be.

A meme Bob made during the 2017 pump [post link here]. Probably the best Bitcoin meme ever made:

2017  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 16, 2020, 12:00:38 PM
Vegetarian menu tonight...
2018  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 16, 2020, 07:21:39 AM
FWIW, what I think jbreher is saying, is that BTC and BSV can both potentially be equally decentralized. In other words, the algorithms themselves allow for the same amount of decentralization.

However, BTC is currently far more popular/dominant than BSV, and this currently gives it a higher amount of decentralization. But this is not due to the algorithm itself, but due to popularity/dominance, which could potentially change in the future.

Well, I don't believe it will, for several reasons which have been discussed many times here in WO, but that's essentially what jbreher is saying.
2019  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 14, 2020, 11:41:01 AM
[...]

You do realize that one can draw at least 20 other lines connecting various tops/bottoms, showing absolutely all possible directions of the future prices, right?

Exactly.

I'm no expert in TA (who is?), but to me it seems that most predictions of this kind apply Gambler's Fallacy, expecting a coin that came heads 6 times in a row to come tails the next time they toss it.

All we need to know to predict where it's going long-term can be found here. For short-term predictions, just roll a dice, and you'll be right 50% of the time on average -- better than many TA charts out there.
2020  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 13, 2020, 09:53:55 PM
Voted October.

Reasons: Jul/Aug/Sep/Oct practically coincide in HoDL time. Voting for Oct is the least disappointing choice.
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