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2221  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2020, 11:02:17 AM
Anyone missing The Bug?

Could do with some Nazi/Jew shit to break the boredom, just for lulz.
2222  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2020, 10:11:12 AM
Keep your fishing rod cases on a boat, not in your room.
Protect yourself from unfortunate landlord accidents.


And fall foul to the infamous boating accident?

With 6000BTC he should have been living in a mansion with a fire proof panic room & his keys in there.

We're having kebab tonight.

Should I take my Trezor with me?
2223  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2020, 08:32:55 AM
Man loses $60M in Bitcoin when landlord cleaned the house and sent everything to the dump by mistake

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Clifton Collins, a former security guard and a beekeeper turned weed grower/dealer, lost $60 million when his landlord cleaned out the house he’d been renting and sent everything to the dump — including Collin’s fishing rod case that hid his Bitcoin codes. Without the codes, the accounts can’t be accessed.

He had both BTCitcoin and Drugs. All wasted now Lips sealed
Lesson learned: Own a f**king room atleast when you have shit load of money and keep your codes safely.

He was stupid, and deserved it.

He ended up with over 6000 BTC. Why continue to deal drugs? He was already set for life. But he was greedy. And stupid.

All the better for us. Price will appreciate slightly, due to his stupidity. Thanks Clifton.

WHICH DUMP?Huh? Asking for a friend.

Just imagine finding a USB stick on the street, all crushed by passing cars, and taking it home, repairing it, and discovering that it contained the private key to thousands of BTC. Wet dream?

Has happened to me once (sans the BTC). Found the remains of a USB stick on the street (only the PCB had remained, and badly damaged). I tried to repair it, but couldn't. Could it have contained Satoshi's coins? No one will ever know.

I'm paranoid like that...
2224  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2020, 06:35:39 AM
Man loses $60M in Bitcoin when landlord cleaned the house and sent everything to the dump by mistake

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Clifton Collins, a former security guard and a beekeeper turned weed grower/dealer, lost $60 million when his landlord cleaned out the house he’d been renting and sent everything to the dump — including Collin’s fishing rod case that hid his Bitcoin codes. Without the codes, the accounts can’t be accessed.

He had both BTCitcoin and Drugs. All wasted now Lips sealed
Lesson learned: Own a f**king room atleast when you have shit load of money and keep your codes safely.

He was stupid, and deserved it.

He ended up with over 6000 BTC. Why continue to deal drugs? He was already set for life. But he was greedy. And stupid.

All the better for us. Price will appreciate slightly, due to his stupidity. Thanks Clifton.
2225  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2020, 07:40:55 PM
2 bad years at 4 year intervals. Possibly halving related? If the pattern holds then the next bad year is still 2 years away.

365*2 = 730 Days ---- Enough time to cash some profits if we reach magic numbers with in 600 days----

Problem is, we most probably won't cash out when it reaches $100k. Hardened by the previous cycle, we'll stoically watch our corn plummet to only $30k, upon which time it will be declared dead, weak hands will sell, some of us will get wrenched, the rest of us will HoDL (because we're HoDLers) until 2026 when it reaches $1M. We might sell some at that time...

I am selling some % at 100k range as i am planning kid and then i might get married in couple of years, hopefully in correct order  Grin

Joke aside, It depends on the individuals and what their lifestyle or goal is. I am speaking for myself (Shout out to @jojo  Tongue ) I am salaried person and big percentage of my salary comes in BTC. In the last 2 years i only cashed out like 3 times so i gotta cash out some at 60k-100k (Will try to hit few goals by following JJG's guidelines with some tweaks) just for my peace of mind as i don't want to regret anything, my soul is too young for any regret  Smiley. Already mentioned few times so some might remember that i entered very late (China fud -2017) in this game and luckily sold the top during the last bull run so i am in accumulating mode religiously since then.

Already bought back everything last year

I agree, it depends on the individual. For me, $100k is beyond Moon, and closer to Mars. So I will definitely cash out some of my stash, mainly to buy equipment for my home electronics laboratory (childhood dream), and also to enjoy life (nothing major, just carefree lifestyle, travelling, not worrying about cost of living). No Lambos for me, never fancied them, never dreamt of owning one. A decent standard car (which I already own) is good enough for me. I could quit my job, but it's a job I enjoy, and a job that gives me the satisfaction of doing things that I could not do otherwise, so I don't think I'll quit. Not yet anyway.

The main thing for me is for Bitcoin to keep rising, or at least stay close to the $100k level in the long term, and not plummet to zero suddenly (which it won't, but nothing is certain in this life, and enemies are always lurking).
2226  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2020, 05:19:28 PM
2 bad years at 4 year intervals. Possibly halving related? If the pattern holds then the next bad year is still 2 years away.

365*2 = 730 Days ---- Enough time to cash some profits if we reach magic numbers with in 600 days----

Problem is, we most probably won't cash out when it reaches $100k. Hardened by the previous cycle, we'll stoically watch our corn plummet to only $30k, upon which time it will be declared dead, weak hands will sell, some of us will get wrenched, the rest of us will HoDL (because we're HoDLers) until 2026 when it reaches $1M. We might sell some at that time...
2227  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2020, 03:58:53 PM
Alan Turing used to chain his mug to the radiator in his office to stop it being stolen. It's still there today.



https://twitter.com/bletchleypark/status/855376587600080896
2228  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2020, 03:26:49 PM
Personally, when they complain that "I don't trust them" or "I don't love them enough", or whatever, I say "it's because I love you dearly that I don't share it with you". It's a bit difficult for them to understand, but eventually they get it (girlfriends are the most difficult).

Oh yeah: Explain to them that they could be tortured if they knew your key.

Of course they may be tortured anyway, and if the torturer doesn't believe them then it's going to be a very long night. Maybe give them access to a small portion of the stash, but large enough to remove the torture.

Plausible deniability is what you're describing. That's an extremely effective method of protecting your coins/data and still minimizing the chances of being tortured to death. Of course, poor OpSec is your worst enemy in such matters.
2229  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2020, 03:18:22 PM
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Sure, in theory, my family members could have combined the papers and took all of my money...but I trust them with my life so I was not worried about that.

The problem is not that your family members will steal your money intentionally. The problem is that they may innocently tell someone about it, or just not take proper care of it and let it leak to the wrong hands. This is exacerbated by the fact that they don't understand it, and may even think it's not so important, thus not treating it seriously. That's why you should never share a passphrase, even with your parents or spouse.

Personally, when they complain that "I don't trust them" or "I don't love them enough", or whatever, I say "it's because I love you dearly that I don't share it with you". It's a bit difficult for them to understand, but eventually they get it (girlfriends are the most difficult).

When it comes to security, my motto is "if you disclose it to anyone, consider it compromised".
2230  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2020, 11:24:56 AM
Italy quarantining sections of the country, armed police and military forming physical roadblocks. Food gone from stores.

China not updating infected numbers, same with canada, the states, sweden, a number of non-western countries. Middle eastern countries closing borders.

Things are getting interesting. If you haven't stocked up on food yet, better get it done.

Italy is indeed the biggest blob on the map, excluding Asia.

It should be noted, however, that all four people in Italy that died from the virus were elderly (78, 75, 77, and 84 years old).
2231  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2020, 10:10:38 AM
100% guaranteed remedy when worried about price drops:

Just zoom out.
2232  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2020, 10:57:29 AM
We exceeded $10k. Only briefly, but we did.

My 5-digit "Bitcoin moon solar eclipse" hat stays put.
2233  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2020, 10:29:26 AM
Number go up!
2234  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2020, 10:07:11 AM
Coronavirus is bullish, either for you, or for the people in your will.

Or for all of us, if there's no will.  Wink
2235  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2020, 09:57:14 PM
Can’t remember the forum this dead/quiet.....

Fortunately, we have COVID-19 that keeps it alive!  Shocked
2236  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2020, 02:30:28 PM
Even after the recent correction from this year's AYH, we're still doing fine. LFCBPI is $7 above baseline.

LFC Bitcoin Price Indicator: $57

Go BTC, go!
2237  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2020, 06:52:36 PM


...and employ them for our seedy activities.
2238  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2020, 05:25:18 PM
I like green . Green makes me  calm

Green is nice, yeah. Good for the eyes too.
2239  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2020, 11:58:52 AM


Sad



Smiley
2240  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 17, 2020, 11:29:56 AM
@Olegya199:

What you're offering is physically posting a gift to WO members you don't know IRL (and who don't know you), and expecting us to accept it. This doesn't make sense from an OpSec point of view, especially considering that many of us have in their possessions the private keys to hundreds or thousands of BTC.

For all we know, you could be:

1. A thief, trying to locate our physical addresses, by exploiting our trust in revealing them to you, or by placing a geotagging device in the package, and then paying us a visit to steal our coins using the $5 wrench method.

2. A member of a criminal, government, or terrorist organization, trying to fish for potential targets to extort and blackmail.

3. A mentally unstable person, trying to poison or harm us, because of envy of what we have that you don't.

Who, in their right mind, would risk dealing with you just to get a home-made bar of chocolate? Would you?

If you really like WO, and want to show your appreciation by giving us a gift, just do it the Bitcoin way. Send a small tip in Bitcoin to those of us whom you respect the most. This would respect our privacy and show us that you really mean well. Alternatively, just post some photos of you making the chocolate (you already did), and a hand-written, dated dedication to all WO members, just like The Dude and LFC have done several times, by sharing their cool resto-adventures with us. All nice and clean. And more than enough. If I want some hand-made chocolate I can go to Max Perry's down the street, thank you.

Coming here out of the blue, trying to send us chocolates and other physical goods, and insisting in doing so by posting several times in the WO thread, raises some big OpSec red flags in my book.
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