any suggestions on the best places to buy and trade? mtgox seems pretty crappy
vircurex, bitstamp, btc-e, are the ones off the top of my head. Not sure if they're good or not, but they're not Gox. Then of course, you can always trade locally.
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The answer: Demand payment in Bitcoin! And if that doesn't work, wait a while, get more people to say it with you, and the say it again. Repeat as many times as it takes ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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I'll sell 300 bitcoins for $250 a piece, any takers?
HA-HA No.
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You know that everybody can say 0.0000000001 is new 1 and it will work?
When you go to a bank with a $1.00 dollar bill. They enter it into their system as $1.00. Say we call 0.0000000001 BTC, "1", if you take it to a bank, you hand them "1" and in their system it would still be entered 0.00000000001 BTC. That can lead to a ton of manipulation. "Yes sir, you gave me 1, but the price of 1 has changed from 0.0000000001 to 0.00000000000000001" $1.00 = $1.00 1BTC =/= 0.0000000001 BTC Try manipulating the price without holding 51% percent network hashing power. This isn't the bank, either ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) You can attempt to lie about what 1 BTC is worth, but if none of the other BTC users agree with you, you're SoL. You should probably do your research. You don't seem to quite understand how this works. I like how no one's mentioned that 0.00000000001 BTC can't even be formed. That's a fraction of a satoshi ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . You're right, but the number of decimal places can also be changed ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) This would be at a point where 1 satoshi would be approaching a cent.
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Ha ha no kidding ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Now this is a quiz. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theadvocates.org%2Fimages%2Fbd%2Fquiz%2Fred_dots%2F100_100.gif%3F1364251919&t=663&c=pRMRF-74wkgBKw) I think I did pretty well.
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Who would want to say "this item costs 0.0000000001 bitcoin" compared to "this costs a dollar"? No one.
So no, people do not want to deal with decimal points. They like dealing with whole numbers. I'd like to see someone go to a bank and request $0.00023 dollars. lol
This isn't the dollar, bub ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) And besides, they're completely different. $.00023 will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, be worth the dirt on your feet. A single Bitcoin encompasses tens, to hundreds of dollars. A fraction of a fraction of a Bitcoin is equal to a dollar. People would call it something different if it came to that. You seem very sure of yourself for someone who shouldn't be. Besides, there's no way we'd whittle down to 1 BTC considering the last Bitcoin will be minted sometime after you're dead. Nobody's gonna lose all 21 million coins, I guarantee it.
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I tried it once. Broke my leg.
Anyway, leg's healed up, but I'm not sure if I want to play again. Those cards are dangerous.
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I have a feeling this is a reason why bitcoins will never work... People can easily lose their coins. So that 21 million isn't going to hold up. Even if 1 million is lost, that would have a huge impact on Bitcoins. Litecoins also... they shouldn't have a certain cap at how much can be mined. They should be able to control it, make the mining easy when more are needed in the economy, and make mining difficult when it's not needed.
Also, credit cards/debit cards that ran off Bitcoins would be a plus
Naw, Bitcoins will work. Even if we're trading with one bitcoin with millions of decimal places, we'll be okay.
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Brother just showed me this website, a test he had to take in his highschool government class. It's a load of horseshit; according to this quiz, you can only be a liberal, a conservative, or "post-modernist", which is what both he and I scored. Some of the questions are really cheap, where you have to agree one way or another, even if neither represent how you actually feel. The QuizState school propaganda, of course; according to the state school, there's no such thing as an opposition to the state. There is only a left, and a right. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Ok, antibanker, why dont you do some research before flaming your hate-speech and general asshatery before you start, the Rothchilds originated in Britain, you incredible twat They originated in Germany. Germany? More like Roman Empire. Roman Empire? More like Mesopotamia.
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Its not bitcoin tanking.. its fiat that is! just kidding ...
Ha haaa... No but seriously.
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Pretty much any exchange will hold your USD until you're ready to start trading. However, always expect an exchange to die and disappear, along with all your cash. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Yes, we all know exactly what's going to happen, we're just not telling you.
Sorry OP, but he's right. You're the only man out. It's not that we don't like you...
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You guys it's still worth $1,000,000/BTC in the long-run gosh golly gee wiz ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) How long run by 2140? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Sometime before then ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) By that point, a new super-race of chimpanzees will have abandoned money all together and will trade bananas and peanuts instead. Silly monkeys! Money can't be perishable!
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In theory. In practise the vast majority of bitcoin talk revolves around people hoping to become millionaires for doing nothing of any societal value; just like the banksters they hate.
When you raise them one way, they tend to stick with it. Change starts at home ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Hrmm so it's very much like libertarianism, I see?
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But, in highschools of USA they teach that fiat is good for free market, then you see a lot of people believes it.
I remember this. Argh! Propaganda! The plague of state-owned schools; they'll teach you whatever they approve, and nothing else.
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Remember that quote I posted in the other thread?
"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."
That's the core of it. She just shied away from taking that to the logical conclusion.
Reminds me of that famous phrase: "Live and let live."
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I mean, I can understand their claims. They're just wrong. They'll have to figure it out on their own. But the consensus is generally this: yes, I use it as money; in fact, it has no other use (which is an excellent quality, by the way.)
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