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3561  Economy / Speculation / Re: Totally called it! on: March 24, 2013, 02:46:00 PM
BTW, Wiki hits through the roof, literally. http://stats.grok.se/en/latest30/bitcoin

Wow!  What on earth spurred that?
3562  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: MAX BTC VALUE on: March 24, 2013, 02:40:54 PM
My point about Bitcoin being doomed over the next years remains in play. The main claim I am making is that its value can never be stable. And the FinCEN has ruled on March 13 that if you use Bitcoin to exchange between it and currency, then you can not be anonymous you must report as a money transmitter. Thus without stable value, Bitcoin is doomed as an anonymous currency (which is the main point of P2P currency!), and will suffer booms&busts that prevent mainstream adoption. If someone releases a better alternative that is able to smooth volatility, then it could defeat Bitcoin driving its value down from nosebleed levels. I have released a design specification for such a competing system.

anonymint.org or anonycash.org or anonycoin.org is the my design specification for a way to fix Bitcoin so that there will be a more stable value and so people don't have to exchange in and out, and can use it as a currency for goods and services and keep their value in it without fear of huge swings in value. Changing from a speculative investment to a real currency.

Litecoin might be a lot more stable in the future, and offer more of a stable payment system.  You could exchange Bitcoin into Litecoin and vice versa; cash out to Litecoin when you wanna make a purchase, and when you receive Litecoin, put it back into Bitcoin for savings, or keep some around for more spending.  Also, there's this beta software called Ripple which acts as a middle-man for debt-based trading.  I don't think Bitcoin is doomed all together; it may be tough as a reliable payment service, but it is phenomenal as a store of value.  Kinda like gold and silver, where gold may be more volatile than silver, so you'd rather keep your savings in gold and spend with silver.
3563  Economy / Economics / Re: Cyprus Agrees 20% Tax On Bank Deposits on: March 24, 2013, 02:05:06 PM
This is the story of your enslavement.

A fun little video to spread around if you ever get the chance Grin
3564  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are fees mandatory? on: March 24, 2013, 07:06:16 AM
Many transactions can be sent without a fee.  But some can't (it's a complex explanation why), and act as incentive to miners to include them in their blocks.  You don't have to include a fee, but if you don't, there's a possibility your transaction will sit in limbo for a lot longer than you'd like.  I believe the larger the transaction, the more you have to pay in a fee, but I'm not entirely sure; it's more so how complex the transaction is, how many Kb is being sent to complete it.
3565  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Social security is the govs way of saying you are too stupid to save your own $$ on: March 24, 2013, 06:55:35 AM
Where the hell is my SS?  I haven't seen a dime.
3566  Other / Off-topic / Re: What we've learnt today. on: March 24, 2013, 06:53:12 AM
I learned that placing an order at BFL right now is not a wise decision.

I learnt that you probably couldn't a video as suggested by the poster above you.....

I learned that some people must think others can a video. I hadn't known that anyone could.

Did he the whole video?
3567  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Decentralised crime fighting using private set intersection protocols on: March 24, 2013, 04:13:37 AM
Who do we appoint to operate said blacklists?  And how do we enforce them?  If nobody cared about setting their clients up to reject flagged coins, it wouldn't matter.  It would have to be enforced by law for it to catch on, as the vast minority which chooses a couple of flags will find it very troubling when Jack wants to send Sally some coins but Sally can't accept his money when it's tainted by a flag passed down by 20 people who don't care for flagged coins.  So Sally would either have to turn her flags off temporarily to trade with her good friend Jack, or tell Jack off.

Now lets say blacklist operators are privately owned (which they cannot be, for nobody will pay for this service, so they will have to be subsidized)  Privately owned blacklist operator owner Sandy agrees that if you slip her a small fee, she'll scrub your coins off (by deleting their flags)  Now you have clean coins, ready to make a drug purchase all over again.  Uh oh!  Time to invoke a law: coin scrubbing is now illegal.  The blacklist operators continue to decline as their non-businesses conduct non-business, and the general public continues to pay for them to perform a service of figuring out which coins need flags and why.  By the time any court can figure out what theft has officially happened (or any crime involving the coin, really) the coins could be passed down several, several times, either to mules, or actual people.  So the guy holding the tainted coin attempts to pass it down, but the next guy has all his flags checked, not because he gives two bits about crime, but because he doesn't want someone else's tainted coin that is now completely worthless.  Ensue a downward spiral of money being rendered useless and people finding it harder and harder to conduct business as they realize they're holding onto hot money.

Now let's assume half of a society has their flags on, and are not accepting tainted coin.  This creates a subculture, the same one we've always had, which is perfectly a-okay in trading their tainted coin for criminal goods.  We can now call these coins blackcoins: the coins which are blacklisted.  It's like black market credit, at that point.  Unless people are forced to refuse flagged coins, they won't, or won't always.  You still have a system for people to commit criminal acts, and as long as a large portion of the population is okay with using the blacklisted coins as tender, they will continue to be used.  At least until Sandy lowers her prices.

A system such as this will go against everything Bitcoin is designed for: privacy, and freedom.  Privacy and freedom mean, however you feel about crime, that it is private, and free.  It cannot be used as a tool to fight crime and remain completely functional.  Assigning a system such as this to Bitcoin would be the same effect as banning guns; the coin isn't committing any crimes, and should not be held suspect.  If Sally wants to buy headphones from Jack, she shouldn't have to worry if her money was suspected of being used to hire a hitman several years prior.  Doll over a few years, and all 21 million eventually become tainted--do they reset the flags?  And if they do, why bother with the system?  It's an inconvenience, and will hinder trade in the hopes of moral correctness.
3568  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitCoin on Alex Jone on: March 24, 2013, 03:07:41 AM
anyway his heart is in the right place.

About the only good thing I can say about him.  He's a great guy, but he's got this weird disconnect.
3569  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Are Bitcoins Worth $70? on: March 24, 2013, 03:06:27 AM
Fucking economics



How does it work?
3570  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hello world post and a question on: March 24, 2013, 02:52:15 AM
You right, I meant BFL (it is 4 am right here, I'm little tired...).

I don't understand - as much as I know, their ASICs are still at pre-oreder, what means they was never shipping them...
So how could they had bad record on this?
Correct me if I am wrong.

Also, what about the ASIC itself - is it seems to be profitable or maybe after they will reach the market the difficulty of bitcoin-mining will be so terrible that you won't be able to return the investment?
I know this is a pretty hard question, but I think that you (and some-other members of the forum of-course) can predict what will happen much better than me so I ask your idea about that.

BTW - are there another ASICs other than BFL that their specs are close to the ones of BFL?

Really thank you for the help,
matan7890.

I mean, they push the shipping date back and back and back.  There are plenty of threads on here where people are PO'd about it Tongue  I don't bother with mining myself, so I don't know too much about it.

Right, the very first people with ASICs are going to have a massive advantage.  However, if every miner used ASICs, it'd be a very level playing field and the rate of returns would even out.  If it becomes unprofitable, they'll stop mining, and might go to altcoins--litecoin is a popular alternative to mine right now.  But by the time every miner has an ASIC, there will probably be even more advanced ASICs on the market; technology always goes this way.  So once ASICs are very popular, the ASIC-2 (or whatever it'll be named) will probably come around.

I believe Avalon is currently shipping ASICs, but beside BFL and Avalon, I'm not sure if there's any others.
3571  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Paypal to bitcoins on: March 24, 2013, 02:42:26 AM
driver license or per. id???

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't accept my valid SSN so I had to give them a photo copy of my picture ID as well.  No idea why they didn't like my SSN, they just didn't.
3572  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Paypal to bitcoins on: March 24, 2013, 02:38:43 AM
can you give em a bogus SSN?



No, they'll keep prying until you give them some info that can, beyond a reasonable doubt, link you to the account.
3573  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-03-23 ABC News - Cyprus Crisis Boosting Unique Currency, the Bitcoin on: March 24, 2013, 01:34:15 AM
Bitcoin is a digital currency.
Dollar is a fiat currency.
Euro is a fiat currency.

Yeah, I think we might need to adopt the "the".

Well, actually, they're all digital.

 Tongue

This Grin  The majority of money in this world are mere numbers in a system.
3574  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Will bitcoin drop to $40 dollars again soon? on: March 24, 2013, 01:27:22 AM
"Very doubtful."

http://www.ask8ball.net/
3575  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: hey everyone on: March 24, 2013, 01:23:59 AM
This thread is infested with bots.
3576  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hello world post and a question on: March 24, 2013, 12:17:48 AM
Do you mean BFL?  They have a pretty bad track record of putting off shipping their ASICs.  The ASIC technology itself, however, is designed to completely outperform any other hashing device, allowing more profits to be made.
3577  Other / Off-topic / Re: The government is listening on: March 23, 2013, 11:54:13 PM
I'm going to assume I exist.

Deal with it!
3578  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is bitcoin a religion? on: March 23, 2013, 11:50:18 PM
The issue with law, it can be interpreted any which ways you want it to be.  If the Supreme Court, as a joke, wanted to make Bitcoin into a religion, they could interpret it as such and legally recognize it as one.

Of course, this may be absurd, but considering the love and worship of the dollar...
3579  Other / Politics & Society / Re: UN Gun control.... GO! on: March 23, 2013, 11:49:08 PM
A tree cannot be charged for murder if it falls on a person, as it did not intent to do so, for it cannot think--however, if the tree fell because someone rigged it to fall, it can be a murder weapon.  We need to ban trees large enough to kill people.  Roll Eyes

Therefor, only people with idle hands can kill people.  But hands can't be idle if they're busy working Tongue  We need to put a ban on thoughts.

And the following is a series of silliness:

Medicine kills people.  We need to abolish medicine.

Lack of oxygen kills people.  We need a ban on lack of oxygen.

People die in hospitals.  Coincidence?  I think not.  We need to banish people from hospitals, and people dying in hospitals will drop to 0.

Gravity kills people.  We need to live in space.

Hot temperatures kill people.  We need to ban Mexico.

Cold temperatures kill people.  We need to abolish Canada.

Not eating kills people.  But that cuts into profits so we'll leave this one alone.

Getting hit by motor vehicles kill people.  This one also cuts into profits, so this one stays.

Butter knives in the eye kill people.  We need to ban butter knives from getting into eyes.

Jumping up and down too long and overexerting yourself kills people.  We need to ban exercise.

Diving and then flying kills people.  We need to banish the ocean and the sky.

Pollution kills people.  Good luck banning this one!  Ha ha ha!

Excessive amounts of fluoride kill people.  See above.

Having pianos falling on you kills people.  We need to abolish black and white films.

A lack of pirates creates a hotter planet and that kills people.  We need to abolish lack of pirates.

Being heartbroken metaphorically kills people.  We need to abolish teen romance.

And last but not least, living kills people.  We need a ban on pregnancy.
3580  Other / Off-topic / Re: Languages you speak? on: March 23, 2013, 03:14:48 AM
Only English right now, but I've been studying Chinese a little bit...  I don't know why, but I find it an interesting language.
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