^^this ^^
sorry for asking off-topic. but why on earth do so many post "this" under a full quote? do you know that i'm usually think to click the ignore button? They'd like to give emphasis on the quote, without adding anything extra to it. But you're welcome to hit ignore, if it bugs you so. That's all on you, and has nothing to do with anybody else. |
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Alex Jones has shit all over bitcoin numerous times in the past not to mention the fact he calls out anyone as government shills (Julian Assange for example) when they refuse to come on his train wreck of a show. His show is all marketing, it's the last place I'd want be associated with.
He's not in it for truth, he's just a clever marketer doing it for the money. He'll say and do anything provided it brings in the $$$.
Hey, if I could run my mouth for a living, I'd want to protect my job too  But here we come to the issue with capitalism; it's all about the money. 1. Money 2. Everything else |
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Satoshi
Satashi
Satash
Satan
He's right! It is diabolical!
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I've been thinking; if I were to release a novel without charge, I figured I would be able to leave a Bitcoin address near the beginning and at the end, so if someone really liked it, they could send me a bit of cash to show appreciation. And if they didn't, it wouldn't be a big deal; I personally hate DRM, and don't want to bother with it. I thought this might be a nice way to handle the problem, but something's bugging me.
Let's say someone else finds this novel, edits the pages with the BTC address to their own, and then re-uploads it. Now that person can take whatever proceeds without the reader being any wiser. So how might I include an address while eliminating this risk? I think PDFs have some kind of protection to them...but I don't know. I'm thinking I might have to include a website that leads to a page with a BTC address, but then again, the website could also be edited to another. Any ideas?
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Gold, silver and real estate are the only true forms of wealth, time tested and the only reason paper money is given value is because people falsely believe it has value. --Average Yahoo user |
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Oh lawdy. Bitcoin on Fox?
Now I know it's the end of the world.
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Well not true. You can hold gold in you hands, you can dig for it, its is not made of 0 and 1, it is a currecy used is so many ways. MMF uses it also, World Bank and so on... Bitcoin is worth less then 1 billion $ ( atm ) so thats not much "money" to start with. You cant tax something that is virtual, thats not like money on PP ( $, punds, yen, and so on ), and since you cant control it its not good for any country.
It currently isn't taxable, but laws will be laws and if law is changed to allow virtual currencies to be taxed (specifically for Bitcoin, and likely only for Bitcoin and its derivatives), then there will be the power to tax. I guarantee there will be supporters for taxes, and enough lobbying to push it through. What I'm saying, if governments are allowed full access to what you do on the web and on your computer, they will find a way to monitor what you spend and to whom. It'd be a long list to explain how they could go about doing this, but I wouldn't say it's completely out the window. We're safe for now, but if and when Bitcoin eats up a lot more than where we're sitting at right now, America, and any other country for the matter, will likely want in on it, and will find a way to swallow a percentage of your cash.
I have high hopes for Bitcoin personally Today of course, it's not going to happen. But I do believe Bitcoin is firmly grafted into society, and crypto-currencies aren't going to fall off the planet anytime soon. Countries would either wait for the value of Bitcoin to stabilize, or simply transform the Bitcoin into a bill for dollars. They wouldn't be able to draw Bitcoin from you directly by any means; instead, I believe they would require you to declare all of your addresses so they can monitor your wallet's activity. After so long, they send you the Bitcoin tax bill and demand payment in USD (or whatever the country's currency is) or face prison time. If they decide you're using undeclared wallets to transfer cash, they would probably attempt imprisonment for tax evasion, or claim you're laundering. I'm certain there's several ways it could happen, however... But as long as the Internet stays private, it's nothing to ever worry about. |
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Yes  Bitcoin as it is now can be private. However, if governments can listen in on what kind of traffic occurs on any person's connection, they could tell if youre attempting to butt them out. As of now, we have a right to privacy. If CISPA and all its cousins get their way, being anonamous on the web will be a thing of the past. |
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Governments arent necessarily againt Bitcoin, it's the feds that dont like it. A government owned by feds will despise Bitcoin, but the biggest law-passer in the world is still extremely slow to act. Bitcoin is no more legal or illegal than gold, and no law ever stopped piracy, so why bother passing one? They're more focused on controlling the Internet; if they accomplish this (and they're always trying) then you can expect a whole slew of prosecuting to begin. America would love to tax Bitcoin, and since every transaction is public, they could potentially force users to declare their identities so they can be properly taxed. It would be impossible to avoid taxation at that point, unless you resort to trading cash in person again.
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Tis a sad day. Born one way by chance, and you're guaranteed to be hated by millions |
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And of course it's based in America.  |
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Capitalism is a form of economy, not a form of government. Anarchism isn't inherently for or against it.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21972936North Korea says it has put missile units on stand-by to attack US targets in response to US stealth bomber flights over the Korean peninsula. So is this all just aggressive posturing? Yes, it's posturing. NK needs the US as an enemy for political control. They need a threat so their people look to them for protection. Without a military threat, the leadership loses authority in the eyes of the people. Contrary to popular belief, NK relies much more on the consent of the population than ruling through brute force. They need a reason for legitimacy. Ironically, the US uses NK for the exact same reasons. The US needs terrorists and nuclear threats to keep people scared/reliant on big brother for protection. I applaud you. Hit the nail on the head right here. |
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Thats entirely possible, yes. But extremely scary. I'd rather work toward unifying the world under our own individual terms than one global law of fact. Whoever sits at the top of that pyramid you've described will probably not be so benevolent--after all, who will stop him? Mars?
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ITT, we discuss the English language and how it's always trying to start shit.
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Thanks! Hard to believe there'd be a "wild west" again--artists are actually a scarce commodity??
Artists like us, it seems; most of the artists on this site are only interested in graphic design. Then again, people are always looking for designers I'm not finding a whole lot of jobs here, but then again, we are among a crowd who prefers graphs and data over the finer points of life. Oh well! |
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Again with the digital dollars...
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Why did weasel post that exact same thread recently?
Same wanker?
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Quick rebuttal:
The "WW3 Game Theory of the Bitcoin World" appears to be organised into 2 broad groups:
Normal people
-Cows go moo
-Pigs go oink
-Sheep go "Pay your taxes; if I have to, so does everyone else. What's fair is fair--holy shit, WalMart's having a sale on flat screen TVs!"
Fruitcakes
Often disguised as normal people, but they're actually...
-Anarcho-Capitalists: "order and wisdom spontaneously erupts out of chaos and stupidity." An amalgamation of retarded beliefs that even with zero government, pillars of civilisation such as education, healthcare, justice, and various social safety nets can all be provided privately and sustainably by the magic of "market forces"... despite an obvious lack of human values. ("Greed" probably doesn't count as a human value because it surely also applies to reptiles and birds which collect bright trinkets to feather their nests with).
-Libertarians: "we pretty much agree with An-Caps, but reserve the right to brutally enforce a minimalist bureaucracy for things like orphanages, and banning slavery, and indentured servitude... and any other exceptions that we haven't thought of yet, if they give us moral discomfort. We of course have the final say as to the morality of the situation."
-Confused Hippies/Libertarians: "transactions and all the other bank-like features that Bitcoin provides should be free and/or extremely cheap so that everyone can enjoy it! But the miners and Bitcoin businesses should of course all earn as much as they can!"
-Religious sects: "long live Satoshi!", "the Cardinals Core Developers have spoken!", "the value is going to the Moon!", "Bitcoin will take over the world -- the prophecy predicts it!"... etc... Some of the speculators could be included in this group.
-Communists/related sects: "Bitcoin will allow our superior authoritarian regime to track usage statistics, and our Computer with optimised software will command the Proletariat to produce the correct amount of butter and other basic foodstuffs in order to ensure adequate health and social fulfilment for everyone equally!"
And for the record, I make no attempt to pass myself off as 'normal'. |
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