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3581  Other / Off-topic / Re: Cash withdrawal limits and reduced hours coming to US banks within 60 days. on: March 23, 2013, 01:33:40 AM
Nice; screw the citizens, and the bank employees, all in one fell swoop.

In other news, the bank of me is open for as long as it's not my nap time Grin
3582  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: inspiration for increase in users? on: March 23, 2013, 01:23:23 AM
Obama
3583  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Meme: "Bitcoin user not affected" on: March 23, 2013, 12:50:25 AM

Ahh!  Okay found him Smiley
3584  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The Best Way To Buy BitCoins on: March 23, 2013, 12:40:19 AM
Local Bitcoins if you have anybody nearby. Check me out if you're in London - https://localbitcoins.com/ad/6912/buy-bitcoins-with-cash-sw8-1lt-united-kingdom

Online, Blockchain.info have really good customer service and was very easy to buy from the UK.

im a wee bit far from lonndon. im in the USA. in texas

So we got ourselves a regular cowboy huh Grin
3585  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What if all taxes were distributed to all citizens equally? on: March 23, 2013, 12:27:40 AM
Two way auctions is interesting system. Still, would need some sort of common platform. First get group of people agreeing on what will be bid on at on what terms including placing a seed bid in, then people can bid into their part into system and at same time other side provides bids to provide the service. At some point these two would be met and possibly after certain time the lowest bid for providing service would win and the bids for service would be moved to trusted party possibly.

Not really good explanation, but I think this kind of system might be needed at some point. It's not perfect as there needs to be one or two third parties or trust in service providers.

Still, the question remains is this efficient use of resources, mainly would people bidding to get service use their time to produce something. While some party could be much more efficient in using taxed resources.

You'd want to use a trusted service.  Trust requires many people.  People should be more inclined to vote for the most qualified professional, at the best price offered.  Heck, even the guy with the great handshake might get more jobs than the guy who does the job extremely well, but that's a matter of society, a matter of people acting like people.  Just look at who we decide for our president, anyhow Tongue  Those who do a poor job are likely to be pushed off the job, or never hired again.  I have full confidence in a free, unregulated market, where the best service goes for the best price; but, of course, there are several drawbacks of capitalism, inherent in the system whether government is involved or not.  People can figure it out, that's what they live for.  Not to work, work comes second, always second to thought.  Once the thinking's all done and through, then it's time for work.
3586  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What if all taxes were distributed to all citizens equally? on: March 23, 2013, 12:19:24 AM
It just seems foolish to me that someone could have tastes or beliefs of how disgusting or unfortunate the lower classes are, while essentially encouraging a system that creates lower classes.

The problem is, we're assuming fiat will still be a thing and the only thing we're replacing here is taxation.  Given the current state of America, this will run into a problem of the poor being unable to fund their own projects, while the rich live away from the poor in their mansions and beautiful cities for rich-onlies.  In order for a no-taxation system to work, you've first gotta get rid of government, which keeps the circle of rich-being-rich and poor-being-poor going.  Let's assume, instead, that we're in a capitalistic society in which Bitcoin is the popular currency, and due to it being deflationary, people earn wealth, rather than releasing debts.  Thus, those who save will cease to be quite as poor, so long as they don't let go of their digital gold to some hooker with a referral to a ponzi scheme, and those who are rich will have actual wealth, as opposed to the silliness of what we have now.  At this point, when regulation and patents are nixed, all that can be done is to educate the masses (and I mean real education,) and pray they don't allow themselves to slip into another scheme like the one we're in right now.  Used to be, you were poor because you made poor decisions.  Today, unless you're born into wealth, you're poor by default, and will likely remain poor.  Workers will need to feel they're worth MUCH more than their time is currently worth, which can be accomplished by first abolishing the minimum wage.  Minimum wage assumes that $7.25 is actually a living wage.  Obama wants to increase this to $9, and I still don't call this a living wage, especially when considering wages are not competing with inflation.  Without minimum wage, people would (hopefully) fight for better wages (since there's no substandard invisible bar that $7.25 is better than nothing.)  In the end, people fund the rich.  Without the poor, the rich cannot be rich, yet very few seem to acknowledge this to its fullest extent: it's as if you could scream it at the top of your lungs and it still wouldn't ring as true.  The poor must stand up for themselves, and demand higher wages from those with extreme wealth.  Without a government to protect the rich, it will actually be possible.  As it stands, it is not, and the poor continue to be exploited for they spend too much time working to ever know the difference of their circumstance and how swiftly it can change.

Forgive me, for I don't mean to come off as hypocritical; I'm speaking in hypotheticals, mostly for fun Tongue
3587  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What if all taxes were distributed to all citizens equally? on: March 23, 2013, 12:02:34 AM
What kind of overhead does this system include? I mean in total including spend time by individuals, collecting payments and how long it would take to reach agreement on sharing the cost and reaching sufficient amount of investors for one project.

Beats the piss outta me Grin  It could be as simple as a community joining together and figuring out how they'll go about it, to an automated system, perhaps a website, which collects funds to be distributed by a trusted member of society (LOL) for the contractors who auctioned for the job.

What about a two-way auction; workers decide on prices they'd like to work for, and people decide how much they're willing to spend for the projects--people as in, entities, groups of people, or maybe one charitable rich individual (LOL)

My guess would still be that 80% of the people would just assume that somebody else is going to pay for the road and they'll get to use it for free. Or they might chip in a couple of dollars just in principle, but that's not nearly enough to get the job done.

That's what gets me the most.  It'd be hard for America to ever see this day because Americans are trained to be Americans, and Americans pay for their room and board out of pocket, and everything else is taken from them automatically--fixing a road would be considered another expense they don't want, despite no longer having to pay taxes.
3588  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Almost off Newbie Status! on: March 22, 2013, 11:24:28 PM
You're only a noob once.  Then you have all this 'responsibility' and 'post-count' junk to worry about.  Hogwash!  I'm still a noob at heart! Angry
3589  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Drunk Thread on: March 22, 2013, 11:22:37 PM
Alcohol is fun.  It works by poisoning your body, causing decreased awareness.  But it's fun.

Weed is also fun.  It works by stimulating your mind and increasing your perception.  It's never killed anybody though and is known to heal the body rather than destroy it.

And yet one's legal and the other isn't.

In other news, my ass is backwards.
3590  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: is there another high volume bitcoin forum? on: March 22, 2013, 11:18:00 PM
I've spent well over 4 hours on this thing, and it says:

Total time logged in: 1 hours and 14 minutes.

I'm a developer who hosts websites, including one dedicated to dedicated to bit coins.  I've been on the internet since the 1980s!  I've even used FidoNet and programmed on CP/M.  And, in all these years I have never had to waste this much time just to be able to participate in a forum. The 4 hour nonsense is really stupid. 

So, is there somewhere else where I can discuss the protocol and development with bitcoin developers and those committed to bringing it to the masses?!?   
 



AFAIK, this is the major forum for Bitcoin.  There's a few others but they're tiny.

There is, however, an IRC the Bitcoin devs use to communicate with one another.  You should find the info somewhere around here...I'm not entirely sure myself.
3591  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Meme: "Bitcoin user not affected" on: March 22, 2013, 11:11:21 PM
I remade the blank meme image so you don't have to use that fucking shitbox of a site linked all over this thread.



Who is this guy, anyway?  Is he you?
3592  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Drunk Thread on: March 22, 2013, 11:02:41 PM
tipbot 1 trillion btc = nckfor bar tender man

so many almost drunks.
need more definitely drunks.

drunk thread. is this. get to it.

WELCOME!!!  Cheesy

im so glad. its friday.

thank you drunk thread. thank you.

i love you all. here is my gift, from reddit earlier today:

http://www.youtube.com/v/w-0CS-T1HUQ

This is hilarious Cheesy
3593  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What other crypto currency should MtGox support ? on: March 22, 2013, 11:01:05 PM
Bitcoin. We've got 5 min lag atm

 Grin

Grin Grin
3594  Economy / Speculation / Re: I am about to do something massivley stupid on: March 22, 2013, 11:00:04 PM
Life's one big gamble.  The only way out is honorable death.  Then you'll get this final payout stuff yadda yadda, heaven or hell, that sort of thing.
3595  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Are Bitcoins Worth $70? on: March 22, 2013, 10:57:33 PM
Economics 101

"I want that."

"I like this tho."

"I'll give you this much for it."

"I'll only sell it for this much."

"Okay deal."

Economics 102

"I really want that."

"I really like this tho."

"I'll give you more than I used to give you for it."

"Okay."

Economics 103

"I don't want this that much anymore."

"I really want to sell it tho."

"I'll give you this much less than I used to."

"I don't like it, but I'll take it."

I now congratulate you for completing these courses in "Why the hell is this priced this way?"
3596  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Meme: "Bitcoin user not affected" on: March 22, 2013, 10:54:17 PM

I didn't need to send identification to draw cash out of mtgox to dwolla. Did you read the terms on mtgox? You only need the ID part if want your limit raised to over $1000.

I think they changed it, I had to authenticate my account to use dwolla with Gox.
3597  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-03-21 Quartz "Bitcoin is Out of Control" on: March 22, 2013, 10:46:07 PM
That's it.  Bitcoin is a terrorist.  Quick, iBama, use your e-drones to destroy the cyber threat!
3598  Bitcoin / Press / Re: House for sale in bitcoins Front Page Yahoo on: March 22, 2013, 10:44:28 PM
What a dumb article. "Stores like it-that-shall-not-be-named-mart even sell gift cards for Bitcoins."



A little better.
3599  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-3-22 Fox News: As Cyprus Implodes, Bitcoin Interest Explodes on: March 22, 2013, 10:43:24 PM
God bless Fox News! A real channel!

You make me laugh, sir.  Why must you tickle my insides with your words!
3600  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gun freedom advocates - what weapons shouldn't be legally available? on: March 22, 2013, 10:42:27 PM
Damn.  That is one well-armed gang.
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