Not sure if anyone here has seen this (or wears hoodies religiously like me  ), but these guys have a kickstarter going on right now, where they're selling premium, durable hoodies that are meant to last a lifetime (and come with a 10-year warranty, at that.) The 10-Year HoodieI'm excited about this. They've already hit over 1000% backing; people are really showing that they want quality goods, and are willing to spend the cash for them. I've already backed them for one myself  With any luck, this kind of thing will catch on. Planned obsolescence is about as greedy as it gets. |
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Depends. I don't watch public TV, and hell no to public television news, but I do watch Hulu or Netflix after dinner time as a bit of enjoyment before bed. Still cheaper than cable.
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They can't even spell Bitcoin right  Slander! |
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If I create a currency, and use it regularly in my household between residents in my household, and I agree to let you stay in my household, and let you use my currency, and i let you own stuff in my household at my discretion, and I charge you a fee based on transactions you engage in using my currency in my household, is that theft?
That's basically what governments do.
What if bitcoin charged you a fee for engaging in transactions using bitcoins? Is that theft?
Depends; was the household fee clearly stated when I first moved in, or was it created after? And may I opt out if I decide I no longer want to use said currency or the benefits it entails? |
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I was about to say, taxation is theft The government stole people's gold way back when, by passing a law that made it illegal to keep it... It's like killing and murder. Only one of those is illegal, but one could argue that it's the same thing. Because the powers that be said it's okay for them to kill people, as long as it's not considered murder, you've legalized killing. Just slap a "Hello, I am a terrorist" button on someone and you're good to go. The same can be applied to anything once illegal, and theft is no different. |
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The "end of government" would mean the end of peace, security, freedom, and all the infrastructure that has never worked without a governing authority.
Just wanted to single this one out There are more/as many wars happening today as there ever was. One could argue large scale war can only occur with the help of government; it unites a large group of people to act in a certain way. Instill patriotism, a love of one's country, and you have a nation which will defend themselves against any perceived threat--even if said nation is the cause of the war. Peace doesn't happen, not on the large scale. On the small scale, it still doesn't happen; no body really says they're scared to out in the city at night. But it's in the back of everyone's mind. Government does not bring peace, nor does it bring security. I'd like to point out the native Americans as an example of a peaceful society without government (even though they also had to protect themselves against rival tribes--do tribes count as a governing body?) There were native tribes without governing bodies which were peaceful, secure and free. They used the land when they needed to, but never called it "mine". That was a concept that didn't appear until the governance of Spain showed up to teach the 'barbaric' natives the right way to live (not to mention, disease, as they weren't very clean.) The natives had no understanding of possession, no governing ruler, aside from a tribe leader. Women and men were perfectly equal in every activity. It was pretty swell. They were absolutely, 100% free to do whatever they wanted. There were no laws, and yet they got along, much like other animals somehow manage to get along with their own kind without having to define clearly the laws of their own ecosystems. Of course, they'll eat other animals, but so do we, yes? So to say that peace, security and freedom would never exist without governance isn't true. It has happened before, and has never happened under government; there is always a sacrifice of one's peace, security and freedoms to make it work. It's needless, I think. If the native Americans could do it--and by our standards, they didn't know much about anything, outside of farming--why are we, so civilized and intelligent, still failing to make it work? I propose that is doesn't work. You can push a round peg through a square hole, but that doesn't mean it works. |
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3-P2P ( Peer 2 Peer)-
No third party regulation on the exterior sounds good…similarly like the “Patriot Act” & “United Nations” sound like they’re helping but as we all who are informed know too well is that “intention is everything” but without backed by solid proof of action is nothing “The road to hell will be paved with good intentions”. She's actually comparing P2P to the Patriot Act. Forget apples and oranges. This is bananas and nuts. Step One: Create a problem or conflict – Economic/Civil/Racial/Political Depression
Step Two: Publicize the problem and create opposition to it – “Federal Reserve”
Step Three: Offer a solution – “Bitcoin” Apparently, Satoshi is a Rothschild. You heard it here first, folks! |
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I misread this as gumcoin... The coin you want to chew |
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Over here, I can get unlimited internet for my mobile around ~$10 a month, if you can live with the slow speeds.
Where is over there? I want unlimited 10$ nets too |
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Now that you mention it, I haven't been getting anything in my inbox either.
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Zerocoin would give you this incredible privacy guarantee, then we could add on some features which let the police, for instance, to be able to track money laundering. A back door.   But really. It's not private if the police can see what I'm doing. Screw suspicion, a nose with a badge is still a nose I want out. |
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Bob must first bow to his masters and say these words exactly: "Oh mighty IRS, my lords and masters, how may I make tribute to your humble holinesses, for thou dost not accept Bitcoin, and I must prove to thee, mine graces, my good citizenship."
Thus, the voice of God will ring, and truth will become clear to Bob, and Alice will think twice about helping Bob.
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That would be pretty nice Help guide people where they're actually going |
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i think anyone who understands the above post, would understand the labeling better if it were called 'OP-moderated'
i don't think 'self-moderated' is quite the right name
True... People aren't moderating it themselves, which is the impression I got |
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They couldn't afford a decent artist or typesetter?
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10 bucks says ZH commenters are all white and over the hill Nobody else can be that technophobic. |
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Have you ever been so far even as decided to use go want to look more like?
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Great words, but don't forget that Jefferson's "freedom" model was designated for the white and was based on slavery.
Today western "freedom" is also backed by 3rd world countries which play the role of those slaves.
Don't forget the leagues of people with three jobs in America |
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It doesn't really matter what the gov does. The gov banned kiddie porn and that's still around. Piracy is illegal but very much a part of our culture (nobody with 4k songs on their MP3 player actually spent over $4k getting there.) Murder has been illegal since forever, and people get murdered all the time.
So what will a government ban on Bitcoin do? Further prove it's a force to be reckoned with. Ban or no ban, Bitcoin isn't going anywhere.
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