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3681  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-03-20 BBC News "Canadian man to sell house for Bitcoin virtual currency" on: March 20, 2013, 09:02:29 PM
if this guy sells his house, I'll throw a party for him.

A party paid in bitcoins Grin
3682  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Strange message about "trolling" on: March 20, 2013, 08:59:53 PM
And forum specifically does not allow registration from TOR. I find this very annoying. Everyone has right for privacy, isn't it?
To prevent spam-bots, there is already stron captcha. And trolls will always find a way to trick the system.

 

Yeah it's a little outdated.  But the forum is outdated as well Tongue  The all-powerful and beloved admin is still working out new forum software.
3683  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Can I make a million mining or is my math wrong? on: March 20, 2013, 08:56:41 PM
If anyone got first waves, they're making fucking bucks.

But by the time you get your 30 rigs difficulty will be 23498908x higher, making your annual income 5k per.

Still, money you weren't making before Grin
3684  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-03-20 Al Gore: I'm a Big Fan of Bitcoin on: March 20, 2013, 08:53:46 PM
"I'm telling you it's even bigger than Manbearpig! Listen to me, I'm cereal!"
- Al Gore


Guys.  I'm totally being super duper cereal right now!

But really, Al Gore must be a pretty clever guy if he understands what Bitcoin is bringing to the world.  I'm surprised, as I've always envisioned politicians as dinosaurs with tiny, floppy arms, with vision so poor they can't see another few minutes ahead of them.

Are the two Paul's interested in Bitcoin as well?
3685  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: OMG! What has Satoshi created? He has opened Pandora's box on: March 20, 2013, 08:44:23 PM
I think the Pandora's box metaphor is accurate; you have opened this box, and you can never, EVER close it.  And it is perceived as evil by anyone with a huge stake in fiat--that is, nobody, except the men who designed and own all the fiat.  Now that's one hell of a card tower.
3686  Other / Off-topic / Re: Donate to help education on: March 20, 2013, 08:33:44 PM
khanacademy.org

coursera.org

and if you're pursuing coding to make an app, codeacademy.com

Sorry pal, but you've been beaten to the punch Grin  Even the iOS has some strange app which has lots of lectures on it, which I don't use as I didn't like it.  Probably iTunes U or something similar, I forget the name and I'm too lazy to ask google.
3687  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Strange message about "trolling" on: March 20, 2013, 08:26:02 PM
Yes, that's probably it. I can't say I agree with such a policy, but of course that's not for me to decide here. Thank you.

There were problems in the past with people creating lots of accounts for trolling and most of it came through TOR.

Exactly correct.  Though it's odd it says "trolling," I could've sworn this was in prevention of spam-bots...
3688  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Factors Affecting the Value of Bitcoins on: March 20, 2013, 08:25:02 PM
My Bitcoins are worth millions.

You just won't realize it for another decade or two Tongue
3689  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The EU is going down... on: March 20, 2013, 08:20:57 PM
Reddit post encourages Bitcoiners to pay their taxes.  Poster spends a lot of time and effort arguing his position that governments and taxes are wonderful, and that everyone should support them.  He speaks perfect English.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ans59/bitcoin_tax_evaders/c8z6q1r

It turns out, he's Belgian.  And he's moving out of Belgium, to Estonia.  Cheesy  Sounds like it's time to stick a fork in the European experiment.

Holy shit.  I'm sorry, but anyone who uses their "education" as a weapon to show how their opponent's argument is full of holes and their own argument is flawless, needs to find a hole filled with hydrochloric acid and drown in it.  I'm not actually sorry, but I am sincere Smiley  Not surprising, his username is fratwhore.  May as well be whipped_dog.
3690  Other / Politics & Society / Re: UN Gun control.... GO! on: March 20, 2013, 08:13:39 PM
Tricky, tricky.  If they attempt to take our guns by force, they'll get an equal amount of force in lead headed back at them Tongue  Likely, they'll attempt to pass laws and guilt trip you into doing it.  Nobody responds well to force, but an idea can spread like wildfire, and if people get the idea in their heads that "guns are bad mmmkay", it's game over from then on out.  From what I've heard, these folks calling themselves librarians--libertarians?--one or the other, agree with the above Mr. Mackey reference.

Resistance is futile, filthy hu--I mean, honorable citizens!  And remember, the UN loves you very much.  Mwah!

Now get back to work.
3691  Other / Politics & Society / Re: End of Governments on: March 20, 2013, 08:04:39 PM
http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/capitalism-steven-pearlstein-and-morality

I've been reading this article about double standards in US economy: lower classes are subjected to competing with china workforce, while higher classes, say doctors, bankers and lawyers are protected from that same competition. The problem is you see, that higher classes tend to bribe or somehow otherwise influence the politicians.

How to make the government resilient to this? One way is to only let wealthy folks into politics. But the newly chosen politicians (industrials, bankers, doctors) will stil protect their own interests and wealth. Put Warren Buffet for a president and you'll see some bailouts!

Other way around this is, of course to disband the government...

Depends on what you want.  If you're wealthy, everything's peachy.  If you're not wealthy, it's not a lot of fun.  But as long as the wealthy can keep the not-wealthy in line by distracting them with political parties and celebrity news, we can keep this system going for the wealthy.

Even if one is to support government of any sort, nobody (except the rich, but I stopped counting them as people a while ago,) actually believes what we have now is satisfactory.

Wealth is relative.
The wealthy of 100 years ago (even kings and emperors) didn't have the cool stuff we have now.
The thing is that it never gets satisfactory.
We are programmed to eat the cake and so we can't have it.


I finally understand the phrase "You can't have your cake and eat it, too."

Thank you so much Grin  A little embarrassing I didn't get it until now, tho.

But by wealth, I'm referring to those with the visage of having the most amounts of political influence via lobbying and bribes.  From a philosophical point of view, their wealth is negligible to my wealth of another form, but when considering the powers that be in any government, those with the most Freedom-FunBux and therefor the most influence appear to be the wealthiest.

Can there never be a satisfactory government?  Is it designed to forever disappoint some and not others?  Seems better to avoid it all together, if that's going to be the case.
3692  Other / Politics & Society / Re: State-Education on: March 20, 2013, 07:58:16 PM
As a long time lurker, and newbie poster, I'd figure I'd bite - since I'm starting a teaching career.  I'm just finishing up my education degree, and am currently out in practicum. 

A few reflections so far:

Perhaps it is the way I grew up (in the country, where the kids are from a homogenous, self-sufficient demographic), I find students in the large city high school I teach at are incredibly dependent on direction from the teacher, in terms of task.  They are trained to obey the school "script."  Teacher gives direction, they follow it.  Teacher asks a question, they answer perfunctorily, and without much curiosity.  One of the best discussions I had this practicum had to do with the nature of anarchy - that it isn't simply chaos and disorder, but could rather be a society where all transactions are voluntary. 

The schools, even in relatively advanced and oil-rich Alberta, are very behind technologically - I'd say between 10-15 years.  It means restrictions on any kind of task that could conceivably require a computer.  Despite having a provincial curriculum with "IT" outcomes, there is very little being done.  Likely a funding issue.  The students are very far ahead of the average teacher - unless they are from the new generation of teachers who are still within the digital native generation (it blows their mind that I know about 4chan, hashtags, twitter, and league of legends). 

The staff are cynical, older, tired and holding on to collect pensions.  There is no movement to recognize the societal shifts happening underneath their feet.  I told my partner-teacher about Cyprus, it shocked her, but these people don't think about the outside world, or the connected world, or about any kind of breakdown in a financial system. 

I just hope I get to be that odd soapbox crazy teacher that a bunch of students just might like and pay heed to.

That's very unusual.  You'd figure a teacher would pay attention to going-ons around the world, but, before the Internet, info was a lot more limited.  Television was an output of whatever they chose to show you, and that's that--it still is, to be completely honest.  Whether they wanted to show you a lot, or show you a little.  But if you were never led on that your favorite news station was censoring content, you'd never know.  So perhaps it's not so surprising older folk, including teachers, aren't paying any attention to the outside world.  I know that's true in America, in the least.  Both of my parents are completely oblivious to the outside world.  They only watch Fox news; I heard it this morning, actually.  They talked about exactly these two things:  the local weather, and the local rape & suicide & murder.  After that, they talked about the entertainment industry.  Because the same old shit is apparently news Tongue

Anarchy is an interesting subject, because it has many different connotations, most of which people perceive as bad.  The media only proliferates one type of anarchist, and it's the one with a giant green mohok and a face full of metal, rocking out to punk and, in their free time, eating your babies and blowing up your churches.  So if you mention anarchy to the average Joe, they'll assume you're either planning to assassinate someone important, or you're referring to a so-called terrorist.  An unfortunate name, but, all the while, it's still anti-government.  I actually first learned about it on this site, believe it or not.  It's an interesting concept, but I'm curious how to make it work.  I know people, when given the opportunity, are smart enough to make decisions on their own, but the government implies exactly the opposite.  Heck, many people want the government to baby them from the day they're a baby to the day they're dead.  Because we really need a law that explicitly states "Killing people is bad," to know that killing people isn't a very constructive thing to do--and yet, those who are above this law can kill whoever they please.  All you need to do is enlist and bam, there you go, a license to kill anyone not on your own team.

Back on subject tho.  What you're saying is spot on, and it's what I'm referring to.  Children are beaten into submission at an early age, broken-in you might say, so they shut up, sit down, and pay attention to whatever you want to tell them.  They have absolutely no desire to learn, as the government funded schools not only force the child's parents to participate in their program, but draw from their pockets to pay for this service they may or may not want, or may not even use to begin with if they opt for home schooling or private schooling.  A child must be shown why it is important to understand, and should make a conscious decision that it is, in fact, a great thing.  In America, we do exactly the opposite.  We tell children that if they don't go to school, they'll never get a decent job (and they still may not even after years in college, but nobody says a damn thing until the time they're actually taking a sociology course in college--at least, that's how I realized it Grin), and if they never get a decent job, or a job at all, they won't amount to anything, which is another way of saying, you will probably become homeless and/or die, which of course is a lie, as they would just get on welfare and so the cycle continues.  As Stefan Molyneux (check him out on YouTube if you don't know about him) has said, this is a form of socialism--ironic, as many Americans hate this concept, yet will still pay their taxes and hate anyone who doesn't--and, ultimately, a passive form of violence.  When a parent faces hefty fines and even jail time for not putting their child through school, that's when the red flag waves high, and, thanks to our unproductive school system which molds children to be broken-in by the time they're done with high school, that red flag goes entirely unnoticed, as they have learned nothing but who their masters are and the best way to submit to them; being of which, on their knees, without resistance, at a job, ANY job, without thought, without objection, for anyone who pretends to be an official of anything.  Work, pay your taxes, vote, and submit to authority: the four golden standards of the model American citizen.  We're still playing this silly two-party game here.  That's progress for you.

As a teacher, how would you combat this?  It's an entirely uphill battle.  You are one of these most important individuals in the world, for you're in charge of shaping the future society, and yet teachers (in America at least) are paid so poorly, I knew several who worked alongside me at an amusement park as security guards for $9 an hour.  I even once trained a vice principal of an elementary school.  I couldn't believe a vice principal had to work for a few dollars above minimum wage to help ends meet.  Blew my mind.  If there's anything that would steal incentive from being a teacher, it's a substandard pay.

You're not a conspiracy theorist, however, until you ask the question "Why is education so bad in any given country?" and answer with "Because it is intentional."  Tongue
3693  Other / Politics & Society / Re: End of Governments on: March 20, 2013, 06:26:47 PM
http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/capitalism-steven-pearlstein-and-morality

I've been reading this article about double standards in US economy: lower classes are subjected to competing with china workforce, while higher classes, say doctors, bankers and lawyers are protected from that same competition. The problem is you see, that higher classes tend to bribe or somehow otherwise influence the politicians.

How to make the government resilient to this? One way is to only let wealthy folks into politics. But the newly chosen politicians (industrials, bankers, doctors) will stil protect their own interests and wealth. Put Warren Buffet for a president and you'll see some bailouts!

Other way around this is, of course to disband the government...

Depends on what you want.  If you're wealthy, everything's peachy.  If you're not wealthy, it's not a lot of fun.  But as long as the wealthy can keep the not-wealthy in line by distracting them with political parties and celebrity news, we can keep this system going for the wealthy.

Even if one is to support government of any sort, nobody (except the rich, but I stopped counting them as people a while ago,) actually believes what we have now is satisfactory.
3694  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "Ł" in the Litecoin name = marketing ticking timebomb on: March 20, 2013, 12:06:17 AM
I didn't know Ł was pronounced as a w.  I don't think any other English speakers will either (unless you just happen to know this language Tongue)  On top of that, Litecoin doesn't use the Ł in its name, only in its currency symbol, just like we say Bitcoin but never mean BTCitcoin.

Wouldn't mind a Łitecoin made just for us Łities tho Grin  Just kidding.

I'm not Łite.
3695  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Meanwhile At Chase on: March 19, 2013, 11:51:29 PM
Right on time Grin  I just matches perfectly with the news on Cyprus.
3696  Economy / Speculation / Re: Fight!!! Silver versus bitcoin on: March 19, 2013, 11:48:38 PM
The poll has spoken!!
3697  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: why do people hate litecoin? on: March 19, 2013, 11:44:06 PM
What reason is there NOT to hate litecoin? it seems like a childish "i didn't get in on the ground floor of bitcoin, so i'll get in on the ground floor of this."

Once that opportunity is up, a new coin pops up for newbies to get into the ground, and so on and so on until there are hundreds of different coins, each with a small group of early adopters hoping their coin is the one to catch. It dilutes the entire concept entirely because of greed.

We need an EliteCoin:  The coin for early adopters.

Oh, uh, we'll also change a few parameters, I guess.  Maximum coins is 22 mil.
3698  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: mBTC: At what point should the community use this as the default unit? on: March 19, 2013, 11:36:29 PM
I really think we're making too big a deal of this. The "general public" already deals with this in $.  Ex: $50B. $50M. $50K. $50. 50 cents.  we choose the appropriate units depending on the amount. I'm sure people will figure out how to do the same with bitcoin.

I understand your point, but the billion/million/thousand specifiers aren't (relatively unknown) descending SI units in an currency looking for recognition. Most people still can't differentiate between megs and gigs on their smartphone. Ask a hundred people on the street which is worth more, a BTC, mBTC or uBTC and I'll be surprised if more than 10% even notice that mBTC != uBTC.

To that end, doesn't it make sense to start using mBTC as the standard unit now, since that's the way the world will be headed if BTC/USD price continues to rise?

Tell you what: when BTC settles at over $100 a pop, I vow to start using mBTC Grin
3699  Economy / Speculation / Re: Fight!!! Silver versus gold on: March 19, 2013, 11:29:00 PM
Why does your thread title say "Silver vs Gold", when clearly, that is not what you aim to discuss?

It certainly got my attention Tongue
3700  Economy / Speculation / Re: Parity watch -> Malawi on: March 19, 2013, 11:18:31 PM
Once we reach parity with Fiji we should buy it.

Or Aruba.


Actually, someone should show this to these nations and encourage them to change their currency so that they can start climbing past the other countries as well.

Better yet, all Bitcoin users move to Aruba (party the fuck out of it), then economically hijack the local government, declare it the Republic of Nakamoto, and create a Utopian society where we all contribute to building an incredible, technologically advanced island that will provide an example to the world of how society SHOULD BE...

all using Bitcoins.

I'm still in favor of The Federal Republic of Bitcoinistan Grin
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