They are not sock puppets. They are all real individuals, deserving of respect and trust. Now, even if you were to make the ASSUMPTION they are sock puppets, wouldn't a sock puppet need to you know, engage in some kind of activity to make it a worthwhile sock puppet? As far as I know neither of them include me either, but I haven't checked. I find it interesting your reasons are shifting now after you feel like your previous justifications are not holding up. Perhaps you are just a sock puppet of Nutilduhh?
The fuck are you babbling about... Getting confused between sockpuppets in your trust list? You know what got me into the default trust list? Being a reliable trader here that people can trust with large amounts of value for almost a decade. You tell me some more about sleazy uses of the DT while you use it as your personal toy for playing out your vendettas and lie about it as you accuse me of the same out of the other side of your mouth.
No, your reciprocal inclusions with the Turkish users pushed you over DT threshold - simple math. Doesn't look like you've done any trades with them, not that it guarantees sound judgement to begin with. No, making a direct reply to your accusations. False. If you're including sockpuppets who prop each other into the trust system - the problem is more than just not agreeing with somebody. How many of the users on your trust list have you done trades with? Oh almost none of them? Amazing how all of these standards only apply to the people you target and never to yourself. |
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You actually did say exactly what he quoted.
No, What I said was... Even if it didn't benefit me personally, I would still be happy including them simply based on the fact that the resident clown car passengers excluded them. Given their history of abuse I would say anyone they are targeting is worth considering for inclusion. i ..a...t...w..at... Technically this is what you said. I guess that means it was what you meant right? |
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I would like to nominate marlboroza as bitcointalks Secretary of Objective Standards.
Do I have a second?
It's like putting dicks in dicks. Dickheads ! Oo, I forgot to mention, THANKS for your biased exclusion anyways, secretary.Yeah, I noticed he has a habit of doing that. 6/1/2020 10:27:17 PM DT2 selection TwitchySeal DT1 distrusts c1010010 DT2
6/1/2020 10:27:17 PM DT2 selection TwitchySeal DT1 distrusts RidleyReport DT2 |
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My post here about Suchmoon is simply demonstrating their motives are not about building a positive trust system, but about using it as a tool of personal retribution, regardless of what is allowed.
I still find it bizarre that you would complain about it after having stated that you do the same thing. Even if it didn't benefit me personally, I would still be happy including them simply based on the fact that the resident clown car passengers excluded them.
You have a long history of adding users to your trust list simply because other people have excluded them. This has led to you including alts of people that you had excluded. Perhaps you are "under a microscope" because you are supposedly championing "objective standards" when it comes use of the trust system but refuse to employ them yourself. This is a pretty humorous example of said hypocrisy: [img width=600 ]https://i.imgur.com/YGWFocZ.png[/img] Here you are telling people to change their profile pic and signature to advertise your "guild" but for some reason you aren't doing the same. It appears you just enjoy telling people what they should do with no desire to actually do it yourself. Try leading by example if you want to be taken seriously. Except that is what you selectively edited my quote to say, not what I actually said. Even if it didn't benefit me personally, I would still be happy including them simply based on the fact that the resident clown car passengers excluded them. Given their history of abuse I would say anyone they are targeting is worth considering for inclusion. Weird you would choose to edit that part out, almost as if you know it clarifies my statement and you want to turn it into something other than what I actually said. "A long history" ...k. Once again, you claim to know my internal thoughts, motivations, and intents, and act as if your assumptions are evidence. I am under a microscope because I make a habit of calling out your little clown mafia when they assemble their three ring circus to attack anyone who dares to criticize them, exactly like is happening here. It is always the same people. I am not "telling" people to do anything. I am asking. That is not under dispute, and I agree. However my inclusions and exclusions are constantly under a microscope by these same individuals, and accusations of trust abuse are levied against me for noting more than adding people they do not agree with, followed by demands I explain myself.
False. If you're including sockpuppets who prop each other into the trust system - the problem is more than just not agreeing with somebody. My post here about Suchmoon is simply demonstrating their motives are not about building a positive trust system, but about using it as a tool of personal retribution, regardless of what is allowed.
False again. If you exclude somebody included by me - is that retribution too, or does this apply only in one direction? I get what you're doing. You're repeating this nonsense as if it's a fact to support your victimhood and that's been a fairly successful strategy for you with this new trust system, since most DT1 members can't be bothered to look beyond your lies. That doesn't really make you not a liar and it only highlights the sleazy way you got yourself into DT. Well, not anymore, but good luck in the lottery next month. They are not sock puppets. They are all real individuals, deserving of respect and trust. Now, even if you were to make the ASSUMPTION they are sock puppets, wouldn't a sock puppet need to you know, engage in some kind of activity to make it a worthwhile sock puppet? As far as I know neither of them include me either, but I haven't checked. I find it interesting your reasons are shifting now after you feel like your previous justifications are not holding up. Perhaps you are just a sock puppet of Nutilduhh? You know what got me into the default trust list? Being a reliable trader here that people can trust with large amounts of value for almost a decade. You tell me some more about sleazy uses of the DT while you use it as your personal toy for playing out your vendettas and lie about it as you accuse me of the same out of the other side of your mouth. |
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this is the crime ? where is game?
You retaliated with exclusions against two users (efialtis and A-Bolt) and they dropped out of DT1 as a result. Considering that you were including A-Bolt up to that point and switched that to an exclusion - doesn't seem like this was an actual "I trusted your judgement and now I suddenly don't" thing. Then you included 4 users who have little support inside DT1 (2-3 inclusions). Again, one of them went from being excluded to being included by you, making it so much less likely that this is about your trust or distrust of their judgement and more likely that you're fishing for reciprocal inclusions. A "crime"? No. A pattern of sleazy exploitation of your position in DT1. Gaming the DT1 voting system to benefit yourself. Weird how this kind of behavior is ok for you, but not for other people... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5251037.0 |
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Nice try homie! But I'll say this again "you're busted", hmmm. Requirements :
- Senior member+ on bitcointalk. (If you have 2 accounts senior member+, you can only use one to take part)
- One username per user
- No negative trust
Since DrGuns4Hands was your only Sr. Member account that's the one you make the posting and I don't think I'll buy the thing that you hired DrGuns4Hands over that because if you really do you will leave the trust on your transaction with him. Seeing your trust page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=912614 by Dec. 2016 you already know how to use it, that's too weird you haven't even left any feedback on his profile when in fact you hired him to post multiple times of your bets on that lottery-type promotion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=56939;sa=showPosts;start=1080   Pop Quiz If you were busted what will you do? What will you do is to think of the best makeup it could have to avoid it and make an example of a pop quiz that might relate to it. If that fails and I guess it really fails, you'll try another one because you forgot to leave feedback 3 and a half years ago which has been thrown to you. I think his explanation was perfectly reasonable. There is too much of an atmosphere on this forum of everyone running around pretending to be police and getting into the personal business of others for no good reason. Of course, you want to feel special like you are some kind of internet detective and you cracked the case, and it costs you nothing to make assumptions about people and ruin their reputation over it for your own benefit. This kind of behavior needs to stop. You know why it needs to stop? Because sooner or later it will be your turn to have a mob of autists digging through all of your own personal activities, making accusations, and attacking you. Everyone gets a turn sooner or later in this kind of environment. |
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Tired of having the trust system here abused against you? Voice your support and add the graphics in the OP to your profile pic and signature!
It's been over five years since you created this thread. Your constant obsessive ramblings about this prove that you don't belong in the default trust network.
Just gonna keep going huh? Threads TECSHARE has started to complain about 'trust abuse' and 'censorship':Thanks for compiling that list of reasons why we need objective standards, secretary. If you would also get me a coffee. Two creams, no sugar. |
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People can add and remove from their lists as they see fit. And its up to the rest of us to see what that means to each of us individually and act accordingly.....
the question posed was very much addressed in my opinion; very clearly and in its simplest form.... as each person: makes their own choices.
If you did not derive: I do not see any wrongdoing prima facie. That is not under dispute, and I agree. However my inclusions and exclusions are constantly under a microscope by these same individuals, and accusations of trust abuse are levied against me for noting more than adding people they do not agree with, followed by demands I explain myself. My post here about Suchmoon is simply demonstrating their motives are not about building a positive trust system, but about using it as a tool of personal retribution, regardless of what is allowed. |
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I'm getting Bernie Sanders vibes from this post, except the rant is about Twitter instead of 'the 1%'. Weird.
So what happens when one of them just relocates to the UK or the next big social media site is based out of Canada (just examples).
Do we sanction them? Declare them enemies of America? Build the great MAGA fire wall so nobody in America can see it?
I agree some sort of regulations are in order. But democracies around the world need to come together to figure out what the best solution might look like. Perhaps it is because you don't know a good God damned thing about me in spite of your projections otherwise. What happens is the USA still remains their primary market and they are still regulated under USA law. What happened when the EU passed regulations on them when they are still based in the US? Oh that's right they changed to fit those regulations! Great try at an argument. See you next time. |
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Yeah, you linked the transcripts already. OH THAT'S RIGHT! You are hoping that the made up tripe in the article will sway people because you know almost no one will read the 27 page transcript to see there is nothing of consequence in it! Keep firing off those turds, maybe one will stick. |
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Oh yeah. The media got it wrong big time. Here's a Libertarian article rubbing it in the fake news' faces. "It Wasn't Tear Gas. It Was a Gaseous Substance That Causes Tears." https://reason.com/2020/06/03/it-wasnt-tear-gas-it-was-a-gaseous-substance-that-causes-tears/I see you removed your own quote, which I was responding to. I put it back in for you, but here it is again: They aren't just engaged in unlawful assembly, and they are certainly not nonviolent.
The point I'm making is that not all the protesters are violent thugs the way many people seem to be assuming recently. Including you. LOL! Libertarian my ass. Once again, police don't just indiscriminately deploy any of these devices in spite of your hysterical protestations to the contrary. They give very clear warnings, and if you choose to remain after those warnings, then you deal with the consequences. These people are not victims or heroes. They are a bunch of lemmings and frothing lunatics filled with carefully engineered cognitive dissonance packed into their poor little heads by a media occupied by enemies of the nation and its people specifically designed to create division and unrest. It is a stage act, which all of you are dutifully playing your part in. I removed my quote, because if people want to read it they can, because the original is still there. No one needs to see everything repeated 20 times, it is just annoying spam on a page. Of course you would love it if I included everything you include so the combined length of your screed with my statements makes people just skip over everything I say wouldn't you. Of course you would. Just like the rioters are using protests to hide behind physically and metaphorically, you also hide the true destruction of these events behind a handful of isolated and well controlled events hoping that people will believe that this represents the whole. What is actually represents is the smoldering hole in the ground left over after they are done. #justiceforjuicy |
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"The Flynn Calls: His Dismissal of Russian Interference and the Kremlin’s Savvy"Newly declassified transcripts show the seeds of Russia’s overtures to the Trump administration as both sides sought to downplay Moscow’s election sabotage.The discussions, declassified and released on Friday, illuminate not only the Trump administration’s dismissive attitude toward overwhelming evidence of the Russian sabotage effort, but also how the Kremlin worked to manipulate Mr. Trump’s advisers by convincing them that the president’s political enemies had concocted a “Russia hoax.”https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/02/us/politics/michael-flynn-kislyak-calls.html Your pathetic attempts at infomanagement twattery are so transparent. For years you were crying about Russian collusion that never manifested, and this crusade destroyed the lives of good men, all so you could go after your personal Satan, Cheeto Hitler. Yet after all of that, here you are still clinging to the corpse of that horse, whipping it harder and harder hoping it will spring to life and take you to a progressive utopia where everything is free and all of your political opponents occupy gulags. I read the entire transcript, even though about a quarter of it is just a repeat of the beginning. You know what I saw? A diplomat doing his job, attempting to prevent war, and coordinate to deal with a common terrorist threat in the Middle East. The only thing even approaching controversial was his pleas with Russia to not escalate tensions over the Russian diplomats the Obama administration just expelled. What a traitor asking Russia not to retaliate against the US! You have nothing. Your only hope here is that people won't bother to read a 27 page transcript to know that, and instead read that dogshit that you call news. Furthermore, it is well known all of these international calls are recorded and transcribed. Knowing this, what possible motivation would Flynn have to lie about their contents knowing everything that was said was already a matter of record? None of your narrative makes sense, and you are desperate to maintain it at all costs. Even if it is at the cost of destroying the lives of good men, at the cost of the nation, and at the cost of war. As long as the bad orange man is gone, none of that matters. Flynn is not the traitor, you are the traitor. |
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This topic continues to go on, and some people continue to bend over backwards to try to support more regulations and more government control on the internet. Are we sure that we want that to happen?
Unless this is some sort of regulatory stop on tracking me online -- without my explicit opt in -- like some sort of EU privacy (not sure how that works, just assuming here tbh) then I don't want it.
Government regulation and control is going to ruin the internet, do you guys want that? More government control and agencies running this isn't going to help, its going to hurt. I understand that it may bring short term help to conservatives -- but long term all it does is allow for whoever the President is at the time to run the show.
The internet IS going to be regulated regardless if we like it or not. If the USA doesn't regulate it, the EU will, and by default that will be the precedent by which it is regulated by mere lack of action by the USA. These corporate entities are abusing protections granted to them at a time when their industry was small and weak to enable them to grow. Now they are strong and dominate the venues of modern discourse. They should not be allowed to violate their protections as open platforms while acting as publishers. They should not be allowed to abuse their monopoly positions. They should not be allowed to dictate the directions of elections by interfering with them by picking and choosing which candidates and their supporters get to speak by enforcing the rules only for their opponents, and editorializing only their opposition. I guess to you people election meddling is fine, as long as you are doing the meddling. |
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I would like to thank you for developing a great answer to my questions.
You are 100% correct, the overgeneralization of a "minority" is never a good idea.
10 bad cops in NYC, doesn't mean that all the cops in all the states are crooked, black (or Hispanic) killers.
This week, the world discovered the "basketball" cops and his newly founded charity.
In the same time, 10 bad Muslims doesn't mean that 1.2 billion people are terrorists.
And 10 white American "lone wolf shooters" doesn't mean that all the white Americans like to shoot kids at uni for sporting.
Shortcuts are always the recipe for fuck ups.
I guess It was a shortcut from me.
you are against all the "good" people expressing their 1st by peacefully walking the street against cops brutality.
Hence you are "for" what they are against.
The whole situation isn't all black and white (not referring to skin color here).
This is the exact issue of these "solidarity" walks.
And this happens in all states in all countries and for whatever the purpose of the walk is.
you will always find people that go there to cause unrest, destruction, intimidation.
however, calling all the peaceful walkers terrorists is something else.
Something is going up, someone is taking advantage of this unrest for political purposes.
Who ? this is the 1 billion $ question.
Final point, if I was in the USA (I'm not). I would definitely live in a major city, probably not NYC, Memphis, LA or any of those huge one.
Something a little bit low key, more family, smaller.
I would definitely, in support of the family of the deceased, partake in a peaceful walk. Definitely go home as soon as the unrest start.
I would feel betrayed by the government if, by doing so, I was accused of terrorism by affiliation.
Once something or someone is defined as a terrorist, aiding, assisting, supporting it makes of yourself a terrorist.
So much for a 1 st amendment. You tell me about "shortcuts", then immediately do it again by saying I am against peaceful protestors and for what they are against. If these were nation wide peaceful protests I would be supporting them. However as I explained these protests are being used as physical and PR cover for riots and destabilizing the nation. Just as one bad guy doesn't make everyone in the group bad guys, peaceful protestors don't make the bad guys good, especially when they are often intentionally providing cover for rioters. This is a serious issue and the protests need to stop until the riots are under control. This is not ending the first amendment, and any time there is violence on this scale the police absolutely have the authority and the right to end protests until the riots can be ended. This is absolutely solid precedence for this course of action. ANTIFA are terrorists, and the protestors peaceful or not are being organized, coordinated, and providing cover for ANTIFA. I already answered some of those questions as far as some of the people responsible in my earlier posts if you bothered to read them. Ah, I see, you aren't here and are relying completely on the media to form your opinions. I am sure that couldn't possibly lead you astray at all. This is not ending the 1st amendment, and as some one who is not even an American, I would suggest you refrain from telling us how it is in our own country. Damn media saying they used tear gas when all they really did was throw smoke canisters and shoot pepper balls and people! Yeah weird how all these rage bait stories keep having to get walked back by people like you, and each time you act as if this is a form of manipulation, bringing the real facts of the matter to bear. Police don't just randomly fire pepper balls at protestors unannounced. They give orders to disperse, and if they refuse, then they are then occupying that space illegally and get get dealt with. This is not playtime. You don't get to just refuse police orders then cry like a victim when you suffer consequences for your dumb choices. "Jersey City Protesters Rally At South Precinct, Mayor In Crowd" https://hudsonreporter.com/2020/06/02/jersey-city-peacefully-protests/"Another peaceful Jersey City rally marches on City Hall" https://www.nj.com/hudson/2020/06/another-peaceful-jersey-city-rally-marches-on-city-hall.html[img ]https://i.gyazo.com/d2fb80ed30d55af8cc46413f5ef0f5bd.png[/img] [img ]https://i.gyazo.com/e89ee3bf8c95ac1f91458aedc8e0ed47.png[/img] [img ]https://i.gyazo.com/972f3da2a56c406db25591bdb6a1dcbc.png[/img]\ No violence. Not even any arrests. The mayor marched and the cops knelt with the protesters for 9 minutes. I know for a fact these pictures and reports are not fake news. It's what's actually happened. And it seems to be happening all over the country world. Although I can't personally vouche for what happened at all of them. Stereotyping everyone that protests as a violent thug is not helping. It's hurting. When you see the media report on a protest, don't just assume they're a bunch of thugs. [img ]https://i.gyazo.com/b22edf4bc4c0db5ce07a6ee866448c4d.png[/img] Well whoopty fucking doo. I guess that erases the nation wide murders, beatings, arson, and looting taking place under the auspices of "protest". None of this negates the actual violence taking place. I could spend an hour compiling a list of all the murder, beatings, arson, and looting that just occurred over the last week, but anyone who bothers to look for 30 seconds can find more examples than they have time to review. Of course your little isolated peaceful protests make up for that I am sure. Yeah, I know TECSHARE will spin this into me being antifa thug on a mission to loot the federal building but he's been yearning for a civil war for years so give him a break. You aren't an ANTIFA thug, you are just a disingenuous twat enabling terrorist activities. Warning people about coming problems is not "yearning" for them regardless of what occupies that twisted little peanut you call a brain. |
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Good on you! I believe that more people should "film the cops", hold them responsible. Document police brutality, report dirty cops and of course sue them.
Why did you stop? that was a very noble cause!
So why did you turn 180 deg and are now defending dirty cops? why are you against the first amendment (freedom of peaceful speech / peaceful march)?
One of the definitions of fascism is "Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition" which is basically the exact definition of what I see when I watch "police the police' or "film the police" videos.
I'm pretty sure that cop watchers see themselves as social heroes, fighting police fascism ... aka Antifa
I think that you are against the looters, the mob that wants to burn cities down, create a revolution, and that are hiding among the #cantbreathe protests.
Only a fool (Donald Trump duck) would mix everybody in the same panelI stopped when I realized that the shift against police was being purposely turned trendy to weaponize it to sow division and create chaos, also when everyone suddenly thought it was ok to hate all police. It became propaganda, not just reality based criticism. Weird how people act like you are the enemy when they get treated like the enemy isn't it? Please quote exactly the statement where I defended dirty cops. I am pro-freedom of speech, however when there in nation wide civil unrest which is directly endangering the lives of thousands of people, possibly millions if it expands, then the protestors should go home, at least until the rioting stops. These people, if not violent criminal themselves, are directly and in some cases purposely serving as direct cover for rioting. This is what these ANTIFA cowards do. They come to protests of ANY KIND left or right, hide among the crowd, pop out and beat, stab, burn, and steal. Then they slip away back into the masses to escape. ANTIFA is also closely affiliated and organized with BLM. They also share some funding sources. These are not innocent protests. This is PR cover for violent unrest. People need to wake the fuck up quick and realize this is an organized effort to destabilize our nation and soften it up for it being taken down. Take a look at the historical patterns used in "color revolutions" all over the world. A more recent example is "The Arab Spring". That is happening here, and it is NOT organic. This is NOT going to result in anything you like. What it will however result in is society breaking down, and death, destruction, poverty, and starvation becoming commonplace, but you can at least rest assured that you were trying to fight for justice when that does happen. More media propaganda exposed... "No Tear Gas Used Ahead of Trump’s Church Visit: Police" https://www.theepochtimes.com/no-tear-gas-used-ahead-of-trumps-church-visit-police_3374470.html |
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You enjoy enabling murder, beatings, looting, and arson.
And you enjoy the murders of Americans by the people that are supposed to serve and protect them (ie the police). Just to explain the above statement : you are against protests that are against police brutality, hence you do not condemn police brutality, hence you enjoy police brutality. Maybe if you knew that 50% of the police casualties are white (574 out of 1093), you would change your mind. Blacks only represent a mere 24% of the police murders. So, you can join on the train (condemn police brutality), and still look "good" by supporting white supremacist racist people. OMg, so much double negation and touches of sarcasm in the above. Actually I used to run a Youtube channel focused on nothing more than police brutality for several years, this was of course before it was trendy to hate all cops just for being cops. I had over 5000 subscribers and nearly two million views. I also got more death threats than I could count. Of course feel free to tell me what I enjoy while you make excuses for people who might very well cause a civil war and societal breakdown. I am sure your "justice" in the dark running from roving gangs of murderers and rapists while you starve will be worth it. *cut*
I did in fact document that they are an organization.
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Yeah, i am not going to waste my time browsing ~30 articles or videos from vague conspiracy sites or for your amusement, i have stuff to do. If you had actual proof, you would be more specific. So the groups own website is not proof enough? The guide published by ANTIFA detailing how to start a group isn't enough? [slaps "CONSPIRACY" sticker on it] "Yep, no need to reply now" Just because you refuse to read it doesn't change the fact that I documented they are in fact a collection of organized groups. I have been monitoring the activities of this organization for at least 5 years, and up to 19 if you count "black bloc" from 1999. You have fun with your shallow baseless assertions, because we both know you have no argument to stand on here. ANTIFA is a terrorist organization. |
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