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361  Other / Meta / Re: Merit awarding as an alternative to posting. on: August 30, 2019, 04:18:09 PM
I was discussing the awarding of merits with another member recently, and he made me aware that we have both started to award merits as an alternative to posting a reply in a thread. If you agree with a poster, but don't have much to add to the point he has made, do you think it is good practice to award merits without quoting and posting an agreement? It will certainly keep the thread cleaner and easier to read, but it may be difficult for those seeking to build a post count to restrain themselves.
Definitely, you don't even have to merit it, if a user doesn't have anything useful or new information to add on to the existing conversation, there's no actual use of the post except for the monetary gain the person receives in form of the signature campaign payment. I see so many people just using the concept of the verbose on an excessive scale here and that's usually nothing but spam that makes sense when you read it but is still spam and is unnecessary.

362  Economy / Economics / Re: HODL! U.S. debt Alarm on: August 27, 2019, 01:56:59 PM
HODL bitcoin or not, the recession that's at our necks is gonna fuck us all, and we can do literally nothing about it.
It's going to be nasty. Italy already went in to a recession last year, and looking at the same again this year. Other major economies, such as China, Germany, UK, and South Korea, have already seen a contraction in one quarter this year so far, and are therefore on the brink of a recession. There are plenty of other smaller economies in the same situation, and some other countries already in a recession. Impossible to say when it's coming, but it is, and we are all entering it in a far worse economic state than we did in 2008.
The world economy somehow got through the 2008 recession because it wasn't as massive as the concurrent one, I don't know how businesses are going to survive through the recession, or any global tragedy,economic or not. Regardless of how much money there's been put in the hands of the general economy, its safe to say that it is still not enough for 60% of the population to get through the crisis through and through.

Worse part is, I was told that a few countries are charging fines for the people who dare say that their country is going through a recession. That surely is one way to go at it.

If you prefer to fight with the latest guns than to eat, then you have a problem.
US government spending is ridiculous, and the national debt will only increase with the money being allocated as it is. The US spends more on defense than the next seven highest spending countries combined. The US alone makes up over one third of global military expenditure. Other ridiculous spending includes healthcare; between medicare, medicaid, and other health spending, the US spends around 23% of its entire budget on health. In terms of both dollars per capita and GDP, the US spends at least twice as much as most other Western nations on healthcare (and gets worse outcomes for it, but that's a whole other discussion).
Healthcare is way too important in the US, as ridiculous as it is, its a necessity, for the state that US is in, if they don't invest in their health care properly, they won't withhold for long. While the military spending isn't required as much, they could certainly allot the spending into much smarter choices, but alas that's not how things work. :"/
363  Economy / Economics / Re: HODL! U.S. debt Alarm on: August 20, 2019, 11:56:30 PM
There's no fucking way Trump clears out the entire US debt, I'd be surprised if he manages to wipe out 1% of it, and as small as the 1% may genuinely sound, realistically that's a fuckton of money, and that is 220,000,000,000$ aka 220 Billion.

Here's how I see it: Trump mines out all the fucking oil from these Middle-eastern and other oil rich countries, disintegrate all of those fucking countries so they dont fight back, and he makes US even more rich, prints out more money, and gives out more fucking loans,because they still need more money and it wont be enough to avert Global crisis.

HODL bitcoin or not, the recession that's at our necks is gonna fuck us all, and we can do literally nothing about it.
364  Economy / Exchanges / Re: KRAKEN HACKED (2 FA & good password), 20k euros lost on: August 15, 2019, 11:57:37 PM
Help me please, what can I do now ?
Well from the looks of it, somehow someone got access to your account, stole your funds and vanished.

And kraken can't do anything about it, its crypto, its irreversible like they said. The best possible way to get your money back is to contact cyber crime and give your details that's your best shot. Ask kraken to provide the IP logs, check if your computer is compromised, take all necessary actions, change your email, password everything for all your accounts and use a totally different device if you can.
365  Other / Meta / Re: "Unhandled reports" on: August 15, 2019, 11:42:14 PM
If reporting makes you anxious I'd probably find something else to do. You can usually work out what sort of stuff to bother reporting or not by how they're handled by a mod (if they are at all). If certain hings aren't getting handled then it's up to you whether you continue reporting them or not, but giving feedback on every report we don't handle would be a nightmare and take far more time than handling the report in the first place.
Fair enough, I was just being general about the anxiety part. But yeah no one in their sane mind would ask for feedback for every single report they report on a forum, no, I am not asking that,that'd be crazy.

I wouldn't really look at as or call them 'soft bad'. Most of the time they're just left in the queue because no mod had decided to get involved for whatever reason. If they were truly a bad report then they'd likely be marked as so.
Don't you think there should be more mods assigned? Two global mods were removed, because they were inactive, and the moderation team could definitely use some help I assume? Like there could be temporary volunteers/intern moderators? People do a lot of shit for "clout" here, I am sure many would gladly volunteer for helping the mod team.
366  Other / Meta / Re: Since 2018, what did you contribute to prevent signature ads removed globally? on: August 15, 2019, 10:51:15 PM
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You have reported 24920 posts with 97% accuracy

I actually want to see a short-term experiment on a forum-wide sig ban.
Wanna know an easier way? Be a dick to shitposters -> they get mad -> they enrage all across the forum -> someone goes deep in on them, dig out the shady stuff -> expose them -> get them tagged -> they never use the account ever again-> repeat. Voila. All because of saying "fuck you bitch", or something you'd possibly say: "go to Halifax"
367  Other / Meta / Re: Should Evil fees have a maximum? on: August 15, 2019, 10:27:33 PM
Wouldn't it be *fair* to have a fixed rate of evil fees instead of having a randomized yet calculated one? Like for example, 10$ or 0.001 btc fixed for having evil IP, fixed regardless of how high or low the price of per bitcoin is..

Thoughts?
368  Economy / Economics / Re: Worrying Stock Market Drop and Fiat Devaluation on: August 15, 2019, 03:39:16 PM
This maybe unrelated, but I had to share. Governments are trying to profit from mass shootings!
Its less related to profit, and more related to how incapable they are of protecting their country from mass shootings. Like, Walmart removed all their video games that "condoned" violence, but they still had all theirs guns on their stores.

Now we have Bitcoin. We can protect ourselves from this.
I believe this debt everywhere is the main problem. There is a global financial pyramid scheme, which always explode from time to time. But bitcoin is different.

My idea is to save some money now, so I can buy all cheap soon, when it all crashes. And do not sell many of my bitcoins, even if the whole stock market is with a huge discount.
Bitcoin isn't going to protect ourselves from shit, maybe on a short term basis, maybe sure. That's definitely things work or intended to work.

The only thing that is going to protect us from another bubble burst->re-great Depression, is not repeating the same mistakes, figuring the shit out on how they countries and their people are going to get through if the Venezuela/Zimbabwe/Sudan eradication becomes a reality in their own country.
369  Economy / Economics / Re: Worrying Stock Market Drop and Fiat Devaluation on: August 14, 2019, 11:59:34 PM
Maybe a global crisis is coming. Bitcoin never saw one.
Maybe? OH ITS COMING ALRIGHT. Its definitely coming. The entire planet is facing through a shitshow. Cannot even elaborate on how bad things are. Hong-kong protests, India-Pakistan fight for a state called Kashmir, US mass shootings(249 this year alone), Venezuela crisis, Zimbabwe crisis, the Brexit crap, the US student debt(trillions of dollars),global warming,etc etc. Like I don't even understand how people think they are gonna get through all of this, when they get offended when someone says fuck you in the face.

If things don't get taken care of as soon as possible, we are going to see a repeat of what happened in the early 2000s, but this time only a zillion fucking times worse. The markets are gonna crash, be it stock, crypto, real estate or any fucking investment based market. People are already fucking killing each other for slices of bread in the Africa and some parts of Europe-Asia. There is debt everywhere.

All of this is inter-related, the stock market drop, the devaluation of fiat, people are saving up money as when they can just so that they can avert the crisis when it knocks the door. People need to get this in their mind that they are gonna get fucked if they dont come together and deal with shit together.
370  Other / Meta / Re: "Unhandled reports" on: August 14, 2019, 11:22:21 PM
Does it really matter?
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It’s appreciated by all of us who post on the forum for the right reasons.
Personally, I don't think it matters all that much--and whether the reports are acted on or not, they certainly are appreciated.  It's far better to have some reports unhandled than to not have them exist at all. 
I mean, wouldn't you get anxious or even de-motivated when you report something and it doesn't get handled for days, and you don't even know why that's the case because mods can't and don't provide the explanation and why they haven't handled the report,or even if.

I think it'd be a great if the unhandled reports and pending reports would be in separate columns, if its gonna help the reporters from not worrying about the unhandled reports and continue on to their day with a smile on their face.

371  Other / Meta / Re: [SUGGESTION] Drafts Page on: August 14, 2019, 09:50:59 PM
What you guys are saying is basically "as nobody uses it, it is fine the way it is, just use an external editor". Wasn't this page supposed to be used? And just automatically saving drafts at random and deleting them after 7 days is pretty useless IMO.

I think we have an internal draft page, that could be put to use just by changing a few lines of code.
It is useless as it is, because it doesn't allow you proper manage your drafts (delete, save, copy, duplicate, etc)

I use an external editor also. But hey, we have one here. We can't we make it useful?
Drafts are like intended for a super-temporary-emergency backup for the posts you make or preview before posting. I believe one of the main reasons of these whole drafts being a temporary 7 day thing is because of the excess storage it'd take up, and also cause it'd be useless if the whole thing is only useful for like a handful of people, while the rest of the userbase not giving 2 shits about it. While the feature could be definitely useful,its not something we would likely see on this forum, but maybe on the new one, but who knows when its officially going to come out. sadPeepoClown.




372  Other / Meta / Re: Spam Sections on: August 14, 2019, 02:30:50 PM
I can only see better moderation made less spam posts particularly less spam threads on Bitcoin discussion so I said other boards also need that kind of moderation level.
You are correct in that, actually. While seeking out high-profile spammers, I found that Bitcoin Discussion has been flushed of the majority of the spam. The same can be said of SOME of Economics and Speculation. Strangely enough, Speculation is kind of better than Economics in terms of quality. You'll find more genuine discussion than the drab "Differences between an investor and common man!" and "Who is the richest person?" kind of threads.
The worst board is Altcoin discussion by far, with Economics and Trading Discussion are probably next in line.

Off-topic is still a creature to be tamed because uninteresting threads with uninteresting one-liners should be deleted, but uninteresting threads with interesting replies should be kept. The problem is when we have crappy threads like "What's your favorite movie?" and you can't find a single response that adds to anything. A simple answer->explanation would make the posts worth reading. Unfortunately, there are too many posts that just write down some random movie title and drop off. What's the point?
I don't really think economics is that bad, I post there rarely, and sometimes come across ok-ish discussions, topics by Hydrogen and O_e_l_e_o's arguments are really indepth and interesting to look into. Other than that, its usually a shitshow of people having ~0 knowledge in theoretical economics.

Speculation has surprisingly good discussions occasionally, but that's only because of those fucking magical Wall Observer thread-bastards, they strive hard for real.

I think the spam would be genuinely reduced if there's just like a little more mods or patrollers around than what there currently are.
373  Other / Meta / Re: [SUGGESTION] Drafts Page on: August 13, 2019, 11:50:00 PM
If it were possible to choose 1 to 5 drafts to be saved permanently or at least for a few months, it would be amazing and I believe more people would use this feature.

Thoughts?
Any particular reason why you'd like need to save a post as a draft and not post it for months?

I can guarantee you that not many people use the drafts feature or even care about it, so this whole feature exploration thing would only happen for a handful of people , if it were to ever happen.

If the main reason for this is for getting access to your deleted posts, then the more better solution would be to get pms for all of the deleted messages instead of a select few.
374  Other / Meta / Re: Limit signature campaigns on: August 08, 2019, 11:07:42 PM
Because if there's more spam,  it means more signatures, and that means it appears almost everywhere==bigger reach, and who would care about the content of the text so long as the name gets spread all across the internet?
BCT could be monetized much further, but it has not. theymos didn't exactly have to roll out the merit system but he did. Users would still stay on the platform even if you saw banner ads because guess what: the altcoin sections are already so brutally filled with nothingness that it wouldn't change a thing. They'll just run in, post their garbage and then leave. For the majority of forum members, as long as there's money to be had, they will take it. Why do you think those ad programme sites are so popular (PTC)? There's an incentive involved and users don't care. Same thing with faucets, we should all know how ad-infested and seizure laden they are.
For sure, the forum could use various means and methods when it comes monetization, but since theymos doesn't want money the forum probably won't be utilized to its full monetary potential, which is good and bad in their own ways. When money is involved, more people are eventually involved, and the originality of discussion reduces significantly as the clock ticks, and the place intended for discussion turns into a virtual brothel full of hookers and drunk cunts. Sounds about right, innit?

As for your say of banning signatures, stop altcoin campaigns instead of stopping all of the campaigns. I mean, most of the spam is because of fucking altcoins and horrendous shits. Keep only the bitcoin paying signature campaigns and see the difference. Make signature campaigns be available only for Full-members and above.
375  Other / Meta / Re: Limit signature campaigns on: August 08, 2019, 02:25:41 PM
Over 70% of registered profiles have never even posted on the forum and more than 159,000 profiles are banned. So the number of accounts that could potentially be for sale is far less than 2 millions.
And in my opinion, trading of Bitcointalk accounts can be forbidden on the forum itself with no difficulty.
Sure, a rule could be potentially imposed stating that account sales is prohibited on the forum, and any one that tries to sell accounts gets their threads deleted or even their account banned. But that's only gonna make matters more worse, cause people will sell more accounts off-forum than on-forum and that will only give more room for scammers to scam because it'd be literally impossible to figure out if the account is sold or not.

I didn't mean have them stop posting, I just mean, stop paying them once they've earned their $5 (Which is a couple of meals in the countries where most shitposts come from)
Yeah I mean,that's what most campaigns do, they only pay for a certain amount of posts and there's a limit upto which you could potentially earn.

I don't understand this whole philosophy of "no sig campaigns = no traffic"

Why would you want spam for 99% of your traffic? Are you serious? In that case, why even bother with the merit system? That sure reduced traffic. Roll Eyes
Because if there's more spam,  it means more signatures, and that means it appears almost everywhere==bigger reach, and who would care about the content of the text so long as the name gets spread all across the internet?
376  Other / Meta / Re: Limit signature campaigns on: August 07, 2019, 11:35:20 PM
I mean it's no secret that people shitpost for sig campaigns. I think if we put a cap on their earnings, for example, once you've earned $5, you need to stop posting.
This isn't a freelancing place where people will stop doing what they do once they get paid. Limiting someone to post eliminates the whole purpose of a forum intended for discussion, regardless of how gruesome and clusterfuck of a spamhole the forum is. If there were an actual way of stopping spam, there'd be also no trolls, no memes, no nothing.

Also, impose bans on account sales on Bitcointalk, so people don't buy accounts to bypass restrictions on Newbie users that are there for a freaking reason

I mean, if you can buy higher ranked accounts, well that kinda defeats the point of having ranking systems now doesn't it?

Sorry, I'm gonna keep this brief. I know there's been plenty of talking on this issue already.
How can anyone impose bans on account sales? Admins definitely don't have the time to investigate all of the 2 Million+ accounts here, and people sell these accounts all across the internet.

Sorry to break this down to you, none of this would actually work or help reduce spam. Its good that you're trying to find out possibilities to stop or reduce spam, but just know that if it were possible it wold have been in action by now.
377  Other / Meta / Re: At what point does feedback spam warrant a ban / nuking? on: August 07, 2019, 09:08:11 PM
I don't think anyone has ever been banned for spamming feedback on trust walls. I do recall theymos deleting some feedback by some dumbass who spammed thousands of lines on multiple user's trust walls, but other than that I don't recall anything happening in regards to control or act against spam/retaliatory/troll-based/garbage feedback. And the reason for little to no action is because the trust feedbacks are supposed to left unmoderated to avoid collusion related crap.
378  Other / Meta / Re: Conversation Bots on: August 07, 2019, 08:55:02 PM
I don't think the count of posts that are deleted matters when it comes to banning someone, context does. There could be many reasons for posts to be deleted, and people don't really get permabanned for spamming as they do plagiarism/doxing et al. Temp bans are the usual ones that users get for spamming, so for all you know many of the spammers who get their posts deleted frequently in a short span of time would have probably been temp-banned.
Temp bans, then. Even a rough range would be good.

I know that insubstantial posts result in exponential ban times (7, 14, 28 and then I believe a perm) but even for this user I don't think they've even been temporarily banned. If the leniency has been increased, then sure. But after 100+ reports don't you think some action should be taken?
Oh for sure, I agree about that. I mean, Hilarious himself has expressed in the past and has even a pinned thread in the services board addressing the very same issue.

I guess, you could message the moderators of the board where the aforementioned spammer shitposts asking why wasn't any bans issued to him or if he was actually temp-banned before? Aren't there also 1-day bans too??

I think it'd be helpful if patrollers are allowed to issue temp bans? I am not aware if they are allowed to that, as far as I can possibly recall. And there needs to be a little boost to the moderation team here, streamers on twitch have more mods than what bitcointalk does.  Undecided
379  Other / Meta / Re: Conversation Bots on: August 06, 2019, 11:16:28 PM
I'm just confused about how many posts a user has to have deleted (in a short amount of time) before they're given a ban. Take a look at the 'most posts deleted' list and you'll find a (relatively) small percentage of them actually banned. (of course this is only concerning permbans)

One particular user that I've been reporting consistently has almost as many posts deleted as they have up: https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Vinaa77 (696 posts to 476 deleted)
I don't think the count of posts that are deleted matters when it comes to banning someone, context does. There could be many reasons for posts to be deleted, and people don't really get permabanned for spamming as they do plagiarism/doxing et al. Temp bans are the usual ones that users get for spamming, so for all you know many of the spammers who get their posts deleted frequently in a short span of time would have probably been temp-banned.
380  Other / Off-topic / Re: 💛 Emoji: we make a topic on the Bitcointalk beautiful🐞 on: August 01, 2019, 11:16:41 PM
BTC🚀
💥

The only emojis that matter.
Maybe add the "I don't care" (🤷‍♀️ 🤷‍♂️) emoticon just for amazing people like QS and CryptoHunter?

That'd be fun to spam around when there's weird baseless crap all over the place, and make them go nuts?? thoughts?

As for the OP's reply, this place is filled with too many big year olds, so no,emojis is certainly not the way. There's a reason why many people choose telegram /other social medias to chat about things and not here. Use emojis excessively or not, over there. Here, you'll just trigger people and end up getting reported countless amount of times. 
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