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Go to Montreal, bend over to a person nicely. Barrier crossed. Or ask TMAN to slap you in the cunt. Whichever you prefer.
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Tomato or tomato. result is still bad and untrustworthy thing to do.
Just like you charging people to remove negative trust? Stop cornering Vod like this, simply say that dear Vod you need to change your rating. it doesn't give you the right to tag the OP for something that happened 2 years ago.
I am not corneing Vod. And to be clear, Vod was right in giving the negative rating in the first place. My only concern is what changed his mind to change the tag. |
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Any DT member who trusts Anduck can counter Vod's rating if they feel that this is too harsh. You are suggesting DT2 members to abuse their power? didn't expect anything less from you. this is a bad practice. one does not simply favor some people over others just because they were given a position of power> DT2. That is not abuse. What the hell is wrong with you? Do search up what abuse means. Misuse would make sense but abuse, no.
If you are trying to act neutral, don't take words posted by Anduck as fact.  After my last conversation with him, I took over 96 hours to make my decision to tag him. I don't want to misunderstand here, but what are you implying? I have one question for you vod, for now atleast : Why did you change back your rating against Anduck? Is it because of you believing Anduck's feedback to be retaliatory? Or is it because of some other reason. |
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The people who have been left out of this year's world cup is a saddening reality. Goalkeepers:
Leno, Hart, Asenjo. Defenders:
David Luiz, Bellerin, M. Alonso, Laporte, Sandro. Midfielders:
Gotze, Schurrle, Payet, Fabregas, Nainggolan, Wilshere, Neves, Rabiot. Forwards:
Sane, Martial, Lacazette, Benzema(lol), Icardi, Morata, Coman.
Source: https://www.givemesport.com/football |
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I was blocked by Vod after he red-rated me. Instantly. No way for me to reason with him in private. He isn't willing to do anything here unless it starts affecting him too. That means, when I get on DT or someone in DT red-rates him, etc.
Blocking people is something DT members do much often after tagging someone. But I didn't expect that to happen for your case, because you're/were a reputed member of the forum. DT members should listen to the other parties and not block everybody after tagging,IMO. Again, Vod was right in tagging you in the first place, because what you did was unethical even though it was slightly transparent. But he changing his tag just because you won't change it back,is not expected from a mature member like Vod. I want to hear more on what other people think on the recent events: Vod changing his tag back to negative because Anduck refused to - Vod blocking Anduck- and clear misunderstandings from both parties. I am trying to act neutral here, and both members have misused the system because its purpose is entirely different. |
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Great work pugman! will you include something like a "websites" column? or will it stay in "contact"?
Thank you Woshib! I won't include another column just for websites, because the list becomes more wider and messier, so it'll stay in the "contact" column.
Done. To verify: the address is posted in the campaign thread, last edit December 6, 2017 (Search for "Funds for the first week"). Although unlikely: if the campaign ever continues, I'll edit that post again. Thanks Loyce V. Verified! 
3.831 BTC held in the ChipMixer campaign escrow address from Jan 3 to Jan 6 2018. -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
6/4/2018 | This address is under the control of DarkStar_ (u=507936)
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty
G3yhe7uEbtQidQXvQ0nRSe0o8hPjAXUoYm96MYUx+WIieKMxJQ4TKvDxB6Yac9r4AXoTO09r4rfgLIh0NqVqY8s=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-- BTC reached 17600$ on Jan 5, according to CoinMarketCap. Equal to ~67000$ USD Bitcoin's price started with 15,477 and ended with 17,705 on Jan 5 ,as per coinmarketcap. And message verified!
Is this really necessary? To be honest I don't see why it matters how much has been held for a campaign at one single point. If people have done escrows and other business here on the forum where they held a bunch of money it should be equally valuable, or?
Either way I'd have to sign an address from an altcoin as that is the campaign I've "escrowed" the most for.
Its not escrow anymore, and I haven't updated the OP. I'll wait for all managers to sign messages and update it all together. Its just max amount held at a time. Your points are valid and fair. I just thought it would make much sense to keep amount held only for campaigns, other amounts, but I hear you, so if you have held more amount than what you have held for your campaigns and if you can sign a message for that, I'd be sure to link it.
I would trust 10/15 on the list with 5+ bitcoin without batting an eyelash. Maybe the criteria for being on the list should be stipulated around that? I don't know the correct format that should be used but this list was comprised from 1 persons opinion. If it's gonna be used as an official forum list for advertisers, then maybe there should be a poll or something to vote users in? Just tossing out ideas.
Overall I think the list is great, just needs some tweaks.
I legitimately thought of running a poll while the time of writing this thread, there were a few reasons why I chose not to: - This thread was required urgently(?). - The list included 21 people, I shortlisted it to 15,because a few weren't managing campaigns anymore and a few weren't responding. And these were the people who I have seen around managing *fairly*. No,I didn't include Sylon,if you are wondering. - Creating a poll, adding more than 30 managers would make this list a mess. Refer here for example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2727673.0These people are only managing signature campaigns. Bounty managers, like Sylon aren't even included. If any manager has been account farming, then the results of the poll would be much more worse. - I personally wanted the list to be based on the community's opinion. And I want to hear people's thoughts on this matter. After all,we are all a big fan of decentralization. 
Edit: I forgot to mention, I messaged theymos about the AD space and I am allowed to do it.  |
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In all seriousness though, why have you suddenly decided to try join a sig camp after all these years?
Because ChipMixer is the highest paying ,best campaign ever! And it is a badge of Honour.  |
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I thought about this aswell.
Pros:
- Much cleaner and slick.
- The whole "contact" column doesn't take 2 lines anymore.
Cons:
- Icons disappearing if the image proxy goes down (like today).
Overall, I agree with these changes. Maybe change the last icon to Telegram's icon.
Thank you for your input, if someone can provide me icons for all three forms of contact that I can legitimately use, I won't mind changing them.
Thank you for providing help. Much appreciated. I never thought about this until you sent me a message. Seems like everybody likes the idea of it,so why not?
As there's much talk about the escrowed amount (I have a feeling some shots are coming my way). I gave the $100k estimated over the time of me managing campaigns which has been over the last 6-8months or so.
I have however done escrows for more than that, I did two Satori Group Buys, one in December last year and one in January this year. The latest one was the largest where I held, and paid for the total order, over $170,000. I did not want to add that as I didn't see it was related to my managing services. But getting unsure now what people are getting at, if trust is the main focus then I guess escrowed deals such as that one is worth mentioning?
EDIT; Great job on the thread so far and it's nice to see you are open to any and all suggestions pugman. Really appreciate the time you spend on it!
Thank you so much,Hhampuz. No one is throwing shots at you,I can assure you that . People are just being subjective. Everyone I chose to be on the list is for a reason,they know how to handle their shit. Anyhow,coming back to the max amount held discussion, I would need the managers to provide me blockchain evidence of them holding that amount at a point of time with a signed message. I am sorry for causing so much trouble but I assure you it is for the best and I am trying to do whatever I possibly can to make yourself look as a better manager to everyone else out there.
I suggest this kind of change instead (brevity is best):
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*changed the table headings and some of the data.
I liked the suggestion,thank you.
I know that when I talk about things that you don't like I would be the retard, let me dumb it down. dealing with DT members in hopes of receiving positive trust is farming trust. since people have several alt accounts, they could also give their own accounts positive trust or better yet if they have a DT1 account, they could add their own alt accounts on DT2. leaving positive trust with no reference is equal to scamming. let me explain why. imagine a DT1-2 member has left positive trust on people with no reference, so far everything is OK, we could say that we should trust that DT1-2 member, then a DT2 member would tag somebody red just because that DT2 member is a bully and the same DT1-2 member whom we were trusting before wouldn't give a fuck about the actions of that bully DT2 member. that means DT1-2 member is no longer trusted and nobody should trust his/her positive feedbacks with no reference. why?
Because that DT1-2 member doesn't care about others and would only want us to trust his/her words. that is untrustworthy behavior and anybody acting that way should not be trusted.
That is bound to happen, unless theymos decides to go against people having alt-accounts. The trust system is not the best,and I don't know why I am discussing this here. I am retarded too. Chuck. But know this,not everyone cares about the trust and not everyone is involved in trust farming,that is big accusation to make without *any proof*. Some people are true bitcoiners,so just oblige to that and be done with it. Accusations like these would not take you anywhere,and this would really go hard on your campaign management services. I can just tell you that for now.
Much better but you'll be using a lot of words for the heading part (try "Max Amount Held" instead). - For the equivalent amount part (100,000$ worth of BTC), make sure to link its transaction ID to blockchain.info explorer (so advertisers could hover over the amount and see the exact worth at that time).
- Not sure if there's another explorer with that functionality.
- In case someone held certain amount across multiple transactions, just use (ex. 100,000$ worth of BTC [1, 2 and 3]).
I like it but if you view it by any resolution lower than 1600 x 900, it appears distorted: - We can combine three columns (Past Work, ANN thread and # campaigns managed) into one (ANN Thread).
- Everyone should have their own announcement threads (mandatory).
- There's no point in having "SMAS list" column (for the advertisers) as well.
| | | Username | | | Contact | | | Mode of Payment | | | Max # Participants | | | ANN thread | | | Max Amount Held | | | Default Trust | | | | | | | | | | | | BTC/Alts | | | Unlimited | | | | | | 0.4 BTC | | | 27:-0/+4 | | |
* Distortion starts on resolutions lower than 1152 x 864. Thank you for the suggestion,SFR10! There are a few issues though: - Not every manager has an ANN thread,and some are sort of hesitant to create one(?). So until then I can't remove the 3 columns. - Not every manager remembers the exact highest amount they held at a time because it overlapped with their other campaigns. And blockchain evidence is kind of hard to find. - I don't know about the SMAS list,not everyone has it and not everyone who has it,has kept it updated. For example,the DarkList™ hasn't been updated in a few weeks now because ChipMixer campaign has been full for a while. The idea can be implemented but not immediately. It'll take a while definitely for things to be put together properly.
There should probably be a distinction between campaign managers and also escrows. Not all campaign managers are escrows nor should all of them be defacto trusted to be one. Maybe the value should be removed all together especially as people might just start using it to base who is most trustworthy or not.
Yep,gonna change that column in a few hours/tomorrow. Probably  .
I like it, the layout is better when it's less wide. I've changed one thing in your quote: I've added alt-text: [img alt=Email]
[img alt=PM]
[img alt=Telegram] This way, if the image doesn't load, it shows a text hyperlink. Thanks for the suggestion. The combo of text/image hyperlink makes things easier when images are down. If you start showing txids, you'll need a signed message to prove it was owned by the campaign manager too. Many of the campaigns I've managed for Rollin.io were off-chain. I had full access to the funds, but without a chain record.
I will need a signed message and only relating to signature or other campaigns. Giveaways probably wouldn't count as it is not relevant to campaign management. This isn't the place for accusations, please open yet another thread in Reputation. Its digaran,he'll talk about DT members and trust abuse/farming anywhere he possibly can.
Reserved. Thank you for listing the best bounty manager. I frequently saw some of the names are mentioned in other topics and all say that they are the very good and prfofessional. Just out of my curiosity, a bounty manager can handle how many ICO one time? Cos a bounty program nomally last around 8 weeks.  Correction: Campaign Manager. They can handle bounties,but they would prefer signature campaigns( with bitcoin payments). Usually managers handle like 1-2 campaigns at a time, some people handle 5-10 too(yahoo62278 for example).
I will vouch for this format. It's much simplified. All possible information can be scanned very quickly, for visitors - it's much more user friendly.
For details, the visitors can visit the ANN thread. You need to give them a reason to read the ANN threads too.
pugman needs to keep up with the dynamic columns. So, the less dynamic columns the table will have the better for him to update information.
Dynamic columns on the quoted one in this post-
Max Amount Held: Once the value exists the previous one the the information need to be updated.
Default Trust: It's gonna change every now and then so the OP needs to keep up with the update.
Dynamic columns in the current table (OP)-
Past Work: Needed to be updated after every campaign the finish.
No. of campaigns managed: Same like past work
Amount Escrowed: This needed to be updated even for every new campaign the user starts.
Default Trust: Already explained
I will keep updating the columns whenever I can, maybe not immediately but I'll do it. For the ANN thread, like I said, some managers don't have it, some don't update it. Until that is taken care of, the columns are likely to stay. Thanks for the suggestion. Much appreciated.
Thank you everyone for putting in your input. I'll see what I can do, will send another set of PMs again to the managers. And I'll update the OP, once I get all the relevant information. Lutpin hasn't responded to any of my PMs yet, so if any one can reach out to him, it'd be much appreciated and would really be helpful. |
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This has been discussed to hell and back and it won't be implemented any time soon. Some discussions take place for ever,take the BTC Wall Observation thread,and theymos believes in free speech. And spammers can open new threads and start shitposting again. Whole point is worthless. Things like this are better off in stackexchanges( bitcoin.stackexchange.com), there they use this feature. Its not the best thing for this forum. |
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If glitch text like that intrudes on other posts, report it. If it stays within the post's area, then it's not a problem.
The glitch in the services section seems to be gone now. So I'll be locking this thread,unless you want to add something,feel free to PM me,and I'll unlock it. |
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Germany's squad for world cup :  Belgium's squad for world cup : 
Both squads look good and come packing with enough potential to win the world cup.
Source : https://www.givemesport.com/football |
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And there ends your service(assumption?) . I am also assuming you will go after hilariousetc for abusing his power. Oh, you can hire digaran for that. Perfect combo.
I think I would use allia before I used this rando
You get to see some nudity, what else do you need for an escrow. |
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There are members who are offering escrow services for lesser fee/ for free and are more *reputable*. Just sayin'. But good luck, maybe you should try to reduce the fee or something more unique . |
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- How to secure & protect their accounts?
- Explain "DT".
- Puzzle games on Bitcointalk.
There are articles on how to protect people's accounts within bitcointalk, I don't know about off forum articles though. But please, some one for the love of God, make an article explaining DT. Please! It took me quite a while to understand it but I finally figured it out. But others are finding it really confusing. Explain DT 1,2,3,4. And how trust settings work. Puzzle games on Bitcointalk, I don't know. There are a few threads on puzzles in the services and off topic section but not many are interested in it.
@OP, PGP articles maybe? They are there on the forum but outside forum I don't know. There may be. I think you should focus more on articles related to crypto and not on bitcointalk (not so much is what I mean). You can write an article saying how exchanges have got more fucked up within the past year, the whole poloniex and bittrex screw up. I'll come up with some new ideas tomorrow. |
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Yes it is for real. It's all in the sources linked. I asked Vod whether we could just drop this shit, as he told me he doesn't see my actions as untrustworthy and I also do not need to have rating showing my distrust against Vod. I don't trust him, but it's up to me if I announce it to the world. My guess is that pissed him off (when I said I don't trust him regardless). You may be right that better term is misuse. It's semantics, though.
It was a rhetorical question,with intended sarcasm. Nevertheless,what might have pissed off Vod more,is that misunderstandings lead to further misunderstandings and now after you lit the fire(unintentionally maybe),you realize everything has gone. And sometimes people don't let go of their pride,so I guess you have to stay with the rating.  |
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His rating affects the general view of my account while mine towards him doesn't. Also, please read the sources. Also, Vod bases his rating towards me on publicly verifiable bullshit, if that matters.
I read the sources,I think Vod was sort of right on leaving you a negative feedback on the first place because you bid on your auction. He gave you the benefit of the doubt and changed the tag,but when he changed it back again,is something I don't expect that someone like Vod would do. No one should be forced to add or remove their ratings just because the other party changed it,be it for a DT member or a non-DT member. But the trust system is not for saying comments like " I don't trust you",it is for " This person is a scammer or I highly believe that this person is a scammer". Abuse is not the right word here,misuse is. Abuse only works if someone gains something from the other,in form of blackmail. So both the parties here are misusing the system. My account is now seen as untrustworthy. This is effective in trading boards of these forums. It has no real effect when doing business with people I've done business before, or old-timers in general, but it has a significant effect when doing business with newer people in the scene.
If the newer people don't understand the situation,you can always use escrow. Bidding in an auction != Scamming. If people don't know that,better stay away. I was threatened, and the rating itself lies about me, and is effectively result of me not doing what Vod asked me to do. In addition to all the worse things, he threatened to red-rate me unless I changed my rating. Read the sources linked in the first post for more information.
DT members shouldn't threaten non-DT members. No one should threaten anyone for a rating. Is this for real?
I can't believe people do so much shit about a damn trust rating. For the love of god,move on. If you don't trust someone,don't. Nobody cares enough to give a fuck,unless you're rich  . |
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Didn't notice that. He may just be copying Mitchel's thread, but did you get permission from theymos to advertise there as you need to get the go-ahead from an admin to do that and it's rarely granted? I have sent theymos a PM,let's see. Three bitcoins is over $20,000. You can't see why someone would just keep that for themselves? There have been campaign managers and escrows that have or have tried to scam for much less. There are several users on the list who I have no reason to trust with such an amount, but that again is why the most held at once is a much better indicator here.
Agreed. I'll be sending a PM to all the managers and will update it once I start getting responses.
Mentioning amounts in dollars just doesn't sound right on a Bitcoin forum. May I suggest using an image, where you set the amount in dollars, and it shows Bitcoins. Example: $1000=  . The down side is that it gives weird looking amounts, but it's updated on each reload. My 5 Bitcoin total was an estimate summing up my portfolio. I can't get an exact amount of how much I've held at once either, as several funds (0.1, 0.65 and 1.25) were overlapping. I think a concervative estimage would be 1.5 BTC in December 2016, worth around $1350 back then. Looking further on my portfolio, to my surprise 0.28518 Bitcoin escrowed in November 2017 was worth more ($2012.89) when I received it, and is currently worth  . Full disclosure: I'm still holding funds for something else than a campaign.
The maximum number of participants probably needs clarification too, it now ranges from 20 to 4k+. I assume 20 is for signature campaigns and 4k+ for social media. I actually think dollars would be better. I'll probably mention like, "Maximum amount of bitcoins held at one time: 100,000$ worth of BTC". The number of participants,is not that big of a deal,I expect people to hire like maximum 200 participants per campaign. Beyond that,it will be way too crazy for the company itself, and for the manager,it'd become really hard. And they would also need to shell out a shitload of money for that. I don't think anyone would do that,they would rather hire 20 people and make it a long term campaign,but I may be wrong. There are some crazy people out there.
Thread looks great and if I am a company looking for advertisement I would use almost any member on this list and feel safe. The only problem I have with the list is the "Amount Escrowed" column. As stated when I was asked to give you my info, alot of managers pay campaigns themselves. They're not really escrows. Maybe rename the column "Amount of bitcoin held at 1 time"? The number of 100-200 bitcoin is correct for me as far as bitcoin paid out to users, but incorrect as far as amount held at 1 time. 30-35 bitcoin would be the correct amount I held at 1 time and that number is due to me managing multiple campaigns at once. I would have to go back and look at the bitcoin price at those times to see what the USD amount would be but not going to do so unless requested. Anyways great job with the thread and to any company looking for a manager, this is a great list to find 1 on.
The maximum number of participants probably needs clarification too, it now ranges from 20 to 4k+. I assume 20 is for signature campaigns and 4k+ for social media.
I suspect the same thing as well. Irfan runs alot of stuff through his bounty portals and most likely that's a social media total. My biggest signature campaign was 200 members at 1 time but I could handle any amount which is why I used unlimited as my answer. Thank you for your kind words. I will be changing the "Amount Escrowed" column in some time.
Nice to see that the usual cartel members are present here as always. now we know why people want to get into DT list, they want the trust. therefore they are farming trust.
Note that receiving positive trust from DT members after making some deals with them is equal to trust farming. their ratings are visible by default.
Note again that I think 1 person shouldn't manage an unlimited number of participants unless they are superman.
I was wondering where you disappeared. Only one cartel member(actmyname) and the Don is there on the list though. Uh-oh. actmyname=marboroza=suchmoon==Don Hilary? Note that receiving positive trust from DT members after making some deals with them is equal to trust farming. their ratings are visible by default.
So you're saying the whole point of trust-system is useless? Receiving positive trust==trust farming? And receiving negative trust==abuse? Damn you're a retard. Are you still pissed that I didn't add you? Again,don't take it personally. It is only because you have no experience at all in managing campaigns.
I would suggest removing the amount escrowed all together.
IMO, most people who represent how much they have escrowed do so in a misleading way, one way or another.
The value of coins varies so much that it is difficult to measure the value of a trade if the coins were held for even a week or so, which is not unusual. As h&c mentioned, holding 1 bitcoin 100 times is very different than holding 100 btc once, and holding one btc two years ago is different than holding a coin today.
Also, holding tokens on behalf of the issuer is borderline dishonest that there is even escrow because it would be trivial for the issuer to effectively void the specific tokens.
I am changing that entire column.
This is a Bitcoin forum, not a fiat forum. If someone is being mislead by prices being given in Bitcoin, or feels mislead by it, should not call himself a bitcoin enthusiast and either educate himself so that he no longer feels mislead, or look for another hobby.
Saying that paying 100 Bitcoin at any point in time isn't an accurate representation is like saying that stealing 100 in 2016 is not a smaller crime than stealing the same amount in 2017. If you hold a certain number of bitcoins, you hold a certain number of bitcoins.
Yet we have an alternative crypto-currency board/s(local boards have it too). Everyone compares bitcoin in terms of dollars,its nothing new. And it would be better in dollars because people who are new to this stuff may misunderstand because 10 BTC a few years ago was worth like 5,000$ and now it is worth 75,000$.
Great job, pugman. But I think that you forgot to add some managers like Sylon and jamalaezaz. Ok, I'm just kidding. Good that you listed only most professional and most trusted signature managers and you didn't added some random bounty managers. I think soon you may get messages "Why I'm not on your list?" And I didn't knew that OgNasty is also sig. campaign manager. I thought that he is only escrow agent. Thank you for your kind words. If managers haven't been added on the list,they know exactly why and I don't need to make it more clearer to them,although I already did. Even I didn't know much about OgNasty managing campaigns but I have come to know about it since a couple of days ago.
Edit: I forgot to ask,user shahzadafzal sent me a Pm to make this thread look much clearer, I don't know if I like it or not,so I want the community's opinion . Example: | | | Manager | | | Contact | | | Past Work | | | Mode of Payment | | | Max. No. of participants per campaign | | | ANN thread | | | SMAS list | | | Amount Escrowed | | | No. of campaigns managed | | | Default Trust | | | | | | | | | | | | N/A | | | Bitcoin and Altcoins | | | Unlimited | | | | | | N/A | | | 0.4 BTC | | | N/A | | | 27:-0/+4 | | |
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Digaran, where are you? I am waiting for you to talk about abuse.
Anduck, so you think it is abuse because you find vod untrustworthy but you don't want vod to see you as untrustworthy? Your account is ruined how exactly? You don't participate in signature campaigns, and if you want to trade with someone, there shouldn't be any issues. People have different opinions and some DT members are DT members because of their opinions. If you want their opinions to be biased, then they shouldn't be on DT.
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Read the post, there is no image, reload it again... some images appear, reload it again...other ones appear! Other possibility is to check manually the links after quoting the text to extract it. This suppose that you are aware of the presence of images... Cloudflare? and ip.bitcointalk.org broke my life too I saw another thread (the one about the glitch) and images are appearing now. Probably in some time everything should be fine. |
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Not entirely accurate, off the top of my head I had to do a double round once and payments were delayed twice (?)
The participants were paid at the end of the day. The participants had no problems with the payments being delayed one day because they trust you. Thank you for being honest, I'll try to edit the post when I get back home.
How about including rank and/or sign-up date?
All the campaign managers are hero members at least. The list is already too big, I had to delete a column(the one stating about other campaigns being handled by managers) because the list became too wide.
In this case I think the highest value people have held at any one time is a better indicator. Somebody could quite easily hold on to many small amounts dozens of times until his total is 10 bitcoins or whatever then just disappear if anyone every gives him a large amount at once. I don't think anybody in the list will risk all their reputation and run away with a few bitcoins. But still I'll make changes to that column, and add the highest amount escrowed at one time to the list. You should probably remove the part including theymos (unless he's said otherwise). He may trust me to moderate the forum at a Global level but this doesn't necessarily mean he would vouch for me to hold onto large amounts of cash (or run signature campaigns - not that he doesn't or wouldn't but I feel unless he's specifically said this it shouldn't be here and may give me an unfair advantage).
Very well.
Props for this nicely-presented list, pugman. I honestly did not realize there were this many bitcoin-paying sig campaigns still in existence. I've had good experiences with Yahoo62278, Lutpin, and DarkStar_. All of them are honest and straighforward and run their campaigns quite well. I can't speak for the other managers, since I haven't participated in any of their campaigns, but I haven't heard any complaints about them--and that speaks volumes. Anyone who aspires to be a campaign manager would do well to try to emulate how these individuals operate. Haven't heard much about SMAS lately. Is that list still being updated? The number of spammers certainly hasn't decreased by any means. I think SMAS was one of the best proactive measures to come along in quite some time. Not entirely accurate, off the top of my head I had to do a double round once and payments were delayed twice (?)
Must not have been in months, because that hasn't happened since I've been a part of the Chipmixer campaign. Thank you for the kind words. Yes, SMAS is being updated, atleast by yahoo62278 and Lauda.
good work @pugman I guess the delay has paid off... finally you have well sorted list of campaign managers.
One question what is this Advertisement space for? Are you going to put your own advertisements here or will be from bitcointalk?
Because this is normal post page and default ad from bitcointalk, after first post will automatically be displayed.
The delay was because I was typing fast, I somehow deleted the entire page, luckily I had saved half of the page in word. So I had to retype again.  The advertisement is for anybody who wants to advertise their business. I expected that this thread might get a few more views than the normal threads of bitcointalk. Credit goes to Mitchell for that.
Yeah, it's just way too misleading as it is. Also, very hard to validate and I have absolutely no idea how much money I have held over my lifetime here (and I suspect the others don't and are more likely to be estimates). Anyone could just make a figure up if it's not validated, but it's fairly easy to confirm the total amount someone has held at once and I think that is a more telling figure as that's a figure they have previously been trusted to hold on to. I think listing figures like hundreds of bitcoins could easily mislead or confuse people. Probably should be listed in fiat as well for the reasons I mentioned before.
I understand how it could be misleading. I am sorry for causing the confusion here. What I meant was how much have the campaign managers paid out their pastime throughout their campaign management experience. I'll change that info in a few hours. I am currently not near my computer. |
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