One of those thing I don't quite understand but still like it very much

sorry you can get a refund or sell your stake under the table in some way but I won't change your account stake to anyone else account name.

I would not say it a vaporware before I can read all their GibHub repo and white papers. David (MaidSafe founder) was in Inside Bitcoin in early April and made a tour to some research university, Google development group before that. As I understand the project has been backed by BitAngel at least for 1 year, hence the estimated 2.5 million$ backing up to now. You can bet that the person who put 900BTC in probably read codes and white papers before.  

It would be pretty naive to think that they can go ahead with type of deal without at least 1 or 2 huge backers pre-committed to a certain amount. Compared to other types of Bitcoin ecosystem venture deals such as Coinbase, Circle, Bitpay etc. the amount raised here is pretty normal for the amount of works and the project's potential.

I have a theory of why they do this kind of quick IPO without much fanfare but anyway it doesn't really relate to the actual potential of the project which is determined wholly by the technology itself.      

There is a risk when I use the words like IPO or investment since I am in U.S which has certain regulations regarding to fundraising and soliciting investment. IPO has a strict legal meaning and I would rather avoid it. Everyone can use any words they prefer but when someone asks me about "that IPO", "this investment". I can't implicitly accept it without risking myself legally.

NEM is an evolving entity. A stake of a NXT clone is worth like nothing; A stake in a properly developed technology could be worth a lot. NEM could have been the former. But it happens to be the latter because of the participation of some great people like Jaguar, Thies, Gimre, Makoto, BloodyRookie, Krysto, Patmaster etc. It is not right to say it was an IPO because I don't have much to offer without the participation of these people. I hope you understand.  

I beg to differ. "Call for participation" is different from an IPO both in legal term and in actual practice. The money stakeholders sent in are donation/ fee to join but not the payment to buy a stake. NEM initial fundrasing is set in this way for a good reason. And I don't think because everyone else is doing IPO then NEM fundrasing has to be an IPO.

Excepts some dev. stakes for administrative tasks, the basis for allocating dev. stakes in promotion category is the project's capacity to attract new users (user acquisition), of course we will try to use some kind of plausible projection instead of actual numbers. The basis of allocating dev. stakes in ecosystem category is the project's capacity to add useful functionality into NEM ecosystem. Multipools may qualify in promotion category depending on how efficient they are.  Maybe a part of the ecosystem as well.

Shouldn't the price be determined by the market ?

The first auction will be next weekend or sooner. I will need to give some updates before the auction. So stay tuned.   

The core team won't be able to do it. So it is up to our stakeholder community.

They do have a lot of codes out wild now. Check their Github and I think that reflects a lot of works in the last 6-7 years. I think the tech is promising definitely more so than Ethereum. 

I would personally support NEM multi pool since as I understand it would give miners automatous access to NEM without paying for NEM directly via an an exchange. That is a valuable service to NEM making it accessible to everyone with different tastes since I think some people are  averse to the idea of buying a cypto directly.

Green marketing ploy started with Peercoin people and continued by Nxt people but never actually caught on. imho, the issue should be rephrased better under the term of network efficiency. NEM network is more efficient than Bitcoin because it takes less power to maintain and still have the same level of security. The efficiency gain comes from utilizing POS/ POI foraging algorithm instead POW algorithm which consumes much more power at the same time gives rise to a computational arm-race whenever bitcoin price is increasing. So we can say the "green" aspect comes from the algorithm each network utilizes not really related to the method how an individual choose to obtain the coin.

I am interested in hearing other opinions but I would think a multi-pool could be considered an useful part of NEM ecosystem as much as an exchange is. But I agree with what someone said before that the multi pool idea will be less and less potent when more people are adopting it.

Anyway: just a reminder to all that stake-complaint thread will still be open until Friday to all refunding complaints (one week from the last update when the list was published). After Friday all refunding without a complaint would be final and we can move on to consolidate the final stakeholder list further and start to invite people in the waiting list to be in. Thanks.

Give me a day or two to collect all the complaint cases and then I will deal with them in a satisfactory manner. Thanks for your patience.

Which market has the thickest Darkcoin liquidity ? may buy some thanks

I prefer MaidSafe to Ethereum.

That thread was locked. Nothing can be changed except a total annihilation.

I already removed that subtitle when NEM evolved. NEM took some ideas from Bitcoin, Nxt, XCP etc. but both NIS and NCC are written from scratch.

I can still open it. Check the first page for the link.

NEM does not have any marketing (yet). Everything now is about writing codes, defining technological roadmap etc.

isn't it because they are sock-puppets ?