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A very kind donator neer.g deposited 250k to the NxtMarketing account and joined Come-from-Beyond's 250.000 donated for NxtMarketing:
2037401990853753795
Big cudos to neer.g. It is the guy ho often anonymously awards people who "work" for the Nxt.
Friends, this is Nxt. Here, you don't have any boss, no government, here you are being paid by others, if they are satistied with your work or just want to support your efforts. Anyone can come here and chat, ask for help, but also do something, contribute, help others.
PS: he used me also as en "escrow", 10k will be sent directly to uniqueorn and 5k to me and pinarello, that's why he sent 270.000.
Αlso I thank to Come-from-Beyond!
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Release the code, yes, actively help FC, no.
What about other copycats? Basically the same as for Nxt: if they can't survive on their own, they don't deserve to.  If they can't survive and THRIVE on their own, they don't deserve to. Let FC take it from what ever he has now and let's see how much of an upgrade he can make. I have said before and now I am going to say it again if NXT want to survive in the long-term, we need to focus on decentralization and community involvement. Superior tech won't cut it in an open source culture. Only an ingrained culture of decentralization and community involvement can create a rich eco-system and set NXT apart. That's also what set Bitcoin apart from all other clones, not superior tech. Now be a NXT-er and go here to vote https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=423241.0 . That's what we are making; creating a culture of decentralization and community involvement. |
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We could help to relieve him off duty when we have multi-sign acc in place.
I quit the project in April. We won't have multisig till that time, I think. Maybe we will by making a huge bounty on it. Otherwise, we would find someone else by that time. Now people, be a good a NXTer and go to vote https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=423241.0 |
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Noone minds I suppose?
Could someone talk about the details how this should work, please? How to securely do this without the risk of someone getting all 3 password pieces?
Beyoncé? No idea. Some kind of voodoo magic I suppose.  And now the serious answer please. It is not working for security reason. Now I have a vote that need your attention https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=423241.0The poll doesn't make much sense. Committee or no committee we need to decide who is holding funds first. None of poll options answers that. A treasurer will hold the fund. For now come-from-beyond is our treasurer. He already said he can take the pressure  We could help to relieve him off duty when we have multi-sign acc in place. |
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I propose that we use some of the unclaimed coins for a big give-away action. Hand out big fistfuls of NXT to the people who have been supporting NXT over the last couple of months (maybe by weighting this thread contribution, to include me, of course) and then carry on with random give-aways to new Nxt'ers.
And one big give-away to a public figure/charity. All give aways will bring people in, rewarding the established community will give us a warm fuzzy feeling, and a big public figure/charity give away will get lots of coverage in mainstream news media without Nxt having to pay for advertising.
Let me again bring up the idea of using global computing, like Ripple does. These are all viable projects and should be funded as long as we have the community's consensus. Now exercise your right to be a Nxter and go to vote here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=423241.0 |
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Voted 2, but am a proponent of a hybrid version: funding committee plans and has its own agenda ánd gives out funds to open bounties.
Otherwise we will keep having problems that marketing efforts will be largely uncoordinated.
Open bounties are a good idea, and need to be there, though, if only as a means to get as many people involved as possible. Some people don't like to work in a team environment, and we shouldn't force them.
I think version 2 could include version 1. For example salsacz could ask for a big marketing bounty and when it is approved she can plan and implement it in details. So we decentralized detail decisions to project and bounty owners. |
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I personally don't see where marketing is important now when much-needed and absolutely essential is a great multi platform client. This should be the first priority and tackled by joined forces ASAP.
A marketing strategy, development and execution can sometimes cost more time than develop a great multi platform client. Please do not underestimate this. I do not underestimate this at all. One can go kickstart marketing strategy once there is the essential multi platform client. We are working on multiple fronts at the same time, it is not linear mathematics anymore. So nexern's client (multi-platform) is the one that is being waited for, right? I can see only one person working on this particular client. It should be a no-brainer that the client is far more important than marketing at the current stage. Nexern likes to work alone for now or you could contact him offering helps. Read here for more information https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412138.0. We could have a alpha/ beta in a week or so. |
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Only if members of such foundation are NOT paid.
can you please make that clear that it would be a commitee that is NOT paid in any way.?
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Sure committee members should not be paid. |
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I personally don't see where marketing is important now when much-needed and absolutely essential is a great multi platform client. This should be the first priority and tackled by joined forces ASAP.
A marketing strategy, development and execution can sometimes cost more time than develop a great multi platform client. Please do not underestimate this. I do not underestimate this at all. One can go kickstart marketing strategy once there is the essential multi platform client. We are working on multiple fronts at the same time, it is not linear mathematics anymore. |
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I personally don't see where marketing is important now when much-needed and absolutely essential is a great multi platform client. This should be the first priority and tackled by joined forces ASAP.
The most important thing you can do without coding is to vote https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=423241.0 |
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Noone minds I suppose?
Could someone talk about the details how this should work, please? How to securely do this without the risk of someone getting all 3 password pieces?
Beyoncé? No idea. Some kind of voodoo magic I suppose. And now the serious answer please. It is not working for security reason. Now I have a vote that need your attention https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=423241.0 |
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This is a follow-up voting to our first voting on the 9 million common fund here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=418695.0So I think the consensus is that we should have a funding committee sooner or later. But imho, we need to define what kind of authority that funding committee could have on the common fund before we can move on to the next step to vote for individual members of the funding committee. I would suggest to think about it in this framework. On the one hand the committee would make plans to spend the funds in details, the committee will then select qualified people to carry out each detail ventures, they would also monitor each project in details. On the other hand, the committee could follow my principle of "open bounties" as outlined here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4604220#msg4604220. The idea is that the funding committee would only have the right to approve or disapprove when a project is submitted for a bounty. Project owners would have to present the project itself in a feasible way to persuade the community and the committee funding accordingly. A project will be funded if it get the majority of funding committee votes. Funding committee member cannot vote for her/ his own project The third option is not to have a committee. So basically every single new projects, small or large would have to get the community consensus before getting funded. It could work but could be very time consuming. Voice it if you have some other opinions. Note: Criterion for being a committee member could be discussed later but don't expect that committee member are being paid. It is very likely to be a volunteer work so think about it when casting your votes. It should also be clear that an independent treasurer will have the responsibility of holding the fund and acts according to the community of funding committee's decision. For now our treasurer is Come-from-beyond. |
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That's easily built. Problem with script is we have to have it hosted on a trusted server that will not save the pw to database. Alternative to script is to just use official client, everyone logs in via screen sharing and types their part of the password to login in and then send money. Spectators are allowed to supervise..
Isn't it possible to intercept key presses via shared screen? Well i suppose anything is possible So are we back to Square 1 with Cfb as our treasurer ? Not bad actually if he can handle the pressures |
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We already have a treasurer - Come-from-beyond.
Oh, btw, let's count pending expenses: 100k - waiting for minusbalancer 100k - waiting for BaiMangal 100k - bounty for JS implementation of NRS crypto algo 100k - total reward for AM contest 100k - total reward for fiat gateways based on Asset Exchange XXX - bounty for 1st SMS-to-NXT gateway Did I miss anything? That's all I think. Just to remind client developers that there is an extra reward from private donors on March 1 for best Window client regardless of all previous rewards. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412138.0 |
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Sounds too complex. I don't understand the screen-sharing concept or the script that will merge the three parts.
Better to just elect a treasurer. Can I brute force if I know 1/3 of pass phrase?
Right, script. Do we have it ready? That's easily built. Problem with script is we have to have it hosted on a trusted server that will not save the pw to database. Alternative to script is to just use official client, everyone logs in via screen sharing and types their part of the password to login in and then send money. Spectators are allowed to supervise.. We should have a demonstration of how it is supposed to work. |
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1 account, 10 million.
9 anonymous people are chosen.
3 get the first part of the password.
3 get the second part of the password.
3 get the last part of the password.
So to send money, we just need to contact 1 of every group. This needs to be a diverse group so that no one can figure out other people that might be in the group of chosen ones.
Make a script that allows input of the password parts and then executes it.
Or better yet, use some sort of screen sharing where each person then enters their password phrase. Everyone can view at the same time.
Looks very good to me. Sounds too complex. I don't understand the screen-sharing concept or the script that will merge the three parts. Better to just elect a treasurer. Can I brute force if I know 1/3 of pass phrase? We already have a treasurer - Come-from-beyond. |
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Sounds too complex. I don't understand the screen-sharing concept or the script that will merge the three parts.
Better to just elect a treasurer. Can I brute force if I know 1/3 of pass phrase?
Right, script. Do we have it ready? what about 1 account three user get the pasworrd? Too much risk. Since if the fund is gone, we can't really blame anyone for the loss since there are there people who can transfer the fund. Wesley proposed the share password concept. We have to ask him to make it feasible. |
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