Update:  Kooream will help me in an effort to weed out all the fraudsters. We will both do an audition at the beginning of thread 2 today (independent checking). After we catch up with the new registrations in thread 2 we will look back and audit registration thread 1.

So new list updates will probably be delayed but as I have stressed in the past - the registration thread is in fact the original stakeholder list. As long as you are in there with valid transaction then you are a NEM stakeholder. So there is no need to worry if the google doc list has not updated to your position.

Since the registration threads are public records ((just as every transactions in the bloackchain). I would invite anyone to scrutinize the list to find mistakes, and more importantly to throw out all the fraudsters who do not belong to the list.

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all questions, comments should go to update/ discussion thread. Thanks

Emergency announcement: From this point on all "reserved", "interested", "post transaction later" posts will be deleted. You should send the required fee to NEM addresses, obtain the transaction hash and make a post. The registration thread will strictly be maintained as a registration place only. All other comments should go to the discussion/ update thread.

This measure is introduced to combat the fraudster's practice of using other people's transaction hashes to reserve a stake. Since if two accounts have the same hash we prioritize the first account who use that hash so it is critical that a fraudster account cannot use hash from later legitimate transactions.

Now for all accounts with duplicate hashes, the priority is given to an account whose post appears earlier. But for further appeal you would need to contact me show proof of ownership of that transaction. The appeal could be proven easily by sending very small amount from your address to NEM again. Then the other account with a duplicate hash would be labeled "fraudster". You could also consider signing your transaction with your account name to make sure your hash cannot be claimed by a fraudster.

I hope the community will also guard the registration thread to catch any attempt of fraudsters to cheat his way to the stakeholder list. I will do an audit of thread 2 tomorrow and before the first NEM distribution we will do at least one thorough audition of the entire list.

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Yes from now on you should consider signing your btc transaction with your username.
But even without a signature, we still have a way to tell a fraudster. Having a signature would be faster though.
And to all of the fraudsters, don't be happy too early if you are now in the list because we will be doing an audition of everything at least twice before the initial NEM distribution.

I will audit every transactions in thread 2 tomorrow and I already have someone helping me. Your name will be clear and apology and wine will be given.

Dont worry I will look into it.

Emergency announcement: From this point on all "reserved", "interested", "post transaction later" posts will be deleted. You should send the required fee to NEM addresses, obtain the transaction hash and make a post. The registration thread will strictly be maintained as a registration place only. All other comments should go to this thread.

This measure is introduced to combat the fraudster's practice of using other people's transaction hashes to reserve a stake. Since if two accounts have the same hash we only accept the first account who use that hash so it is critical that a fraudster account cannot use hash from legitimate transactions later.

Now for all accounts with duplicate hashes, the priority is given to an account whose post appears earlier. But for further appeal you would need to contact me via PM and show proof of ownership of that transaction. The appeal would work out easily by sending very small amount from your address to NEM again. Then the other account with duplicate hash would be label "fraudster".

I hope the community will also guard the registration thread to catch any attempt of fraudsters to cheat his way to the stakeholder list. Thanks.

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That is a duplicate hash.

stakeholder List update to page 10 thread 2. The reason for this lateness is I found out couple of fraudsters and the main trick they used is to make reservations with other people transactions.

Since the fee changes every 10 pages, they can only use the transaction in that range because the first thing I checked is to see if there is indeed an transaction of the right amount. Now I also sorted the hash in alphabetical order and only accept unique transaction hash; if a hash was used the second time then that user is a fraudster. So it would take longer time now to update the list since the checking now requires more times and efforts.

I would also go back to earlier transactions to find every single fraudsters and throw them out of the list. The good thing is that all the records are public in the registration thread and all fraudsters will be found out easily using the method I lay out.

So go ahead and waste your times because I am going to find you and throw you out of the stakeholder list.

Yes that is the idea. because we already have a treasurer :Cfb .

Could you edit your original post instead ?

In an attempt to attract users who are relatively new to crypto-currency. I have set up a point-of-sale PAYPAL to NEM that I personally oversee: The way it works is that:

1. The new user contacts me via PM asking for a PayPal option
2. The new user sends me $ via Paypal (gift)
3. I send the required NXT to NEM account from my personal address 3231774856984709013
4. I give the new user the transaction id so he/ she can make a new account, make a post with that transaction id to reserve a stake (explicitly announcing this is paypal transaction as well)

Now this option is a way to help new users coming to NEM and cryptocurrency in general so it is not open to any users who can access NXT or BTC easily. I would generally ask for personal information and the reason why they cannot send NXT or BTC in.

So the address 3231774856984709013 would be exempt from sending address check.

I would prefer to not use this option for more than a total of 1000$ in transaction so let me know if you want to help and offer this type of service.

No another new account still needs to be made for a friend/ family member, but the sending address to NEM's account could be the same.

Yes this place should be reserved for new registrations. All other comments, observations should generally go to our discussion thread. But dont worry I will delete all the irrelevant posts in a few hours before the fee changes.

The initial efforts are worth it, especially when people put their real names and connection out to spread NEM. Anyway these promotions have been temporarily suspended.

Stay tuned. Development plan will be published in a week or so.

All these ads have been approved by Reddit and would go online according to the schedule. So we are going to bombard Doge reddit headquarter in two day starting 2/5
I will probably put some more ads in some other sub-reddits between 2/8 -2/15.

About the forging mechanism, here is my observation. NXT's forging incomes mainly go to big accounts with 5 millions or more, especially to a few of 30 million + accounts.
NEM won't have that kind of forging fee concentration thanks to the initial distribution design. I would suggest we stick with the traditional forging mechanism as in NXT as well as PPC. It would save us a lot of valuable times to invent a new forging mechanism that is not be gamed or attacked easily.

I am working on how-to so it is not operational right now. Thanks.

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This is the cut-off post. The fee has been raised by 50NXT or 0.005btc. Thanks for all of your supports.