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561  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.--- on: March 05, 2014, 01:31:24 AM
Hi, I have sent 0.000321 BTC to validate my hash (#1573 thread 1)
https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/9b32919c343f00448c50e8ebca110f102ddff96114b3175fe7665df9af9a90dc

please check this and delete user TomandFerry for using my address
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4805898#msg4805898

Thank you!

1281   Sylvie    duplicated hash   f360141c11c7eeda49388c4a1af858852db5419ce99c9d760bedfcad98dcd35d
1259   TomandFerry duplicated hash   f360141c11c7eeda49388c4a1af858852db5419ce99c9d760bedfcad98dcd35d

I will add you in and kick him out. Sorry for the inconvenience.
562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.--- on: March 05, 2014, 01:29:15 AM
Dear utopianfuture
I dont see my name is in your new doc. but it was in the old doc.
Can you please verify it?

My transaction is below: please verify it and change my status in the Google document.
https://blockchain.info/en/tx/837e64327f7a6e51096be48e6d203361c0f42dd48e9576b9e503df320ed469f0

My original thread is:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg5189110#msg5189110

Kind regards,
Sergey

I've added a comment to the list. You should be added at some point.

@patmast3r,
I have been really patient. May I know when I would be added to the shareholder list? I still dont see my name in the list.

@Utopian: Is there any reason why he wasn't added or was he just overlooked ?
Hi utopianfuture and admins,
Could you please take a look at my investment? Much appreciate your efforts and work.

You are already in. No. 1 in changes/ addition tab. All three tabs will be integrated into 1 list in the end so it doesn't matter where you are. Anyway, I added you at the end of tab 2 to be sure.
563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 04, 2014, 08:45:22 PM
@DaFockBro

Don't worry you'll (probably) get you money back from your socketpuppet accounts   Roll Eyes

Don't post about this subject in this thread again. It belongs to the public audition or stake complaint thread.

I used a blockchain's shared send feature and fresh addresses to pay for my 20 stakes.  There is no way taint analysis can prove the 20 accounts that I control are connected.

I also used different proxies for each account so they all have different ip addresses associated with them.


I think it's bogus that I will get to keep my 20 stakes and other people will be refunded for doing the exact same thing in a less clever way.  

At first I thought this distribution method was great, then I realized it's a bogus witch hunt that will only catch maybe 40% of the less clever sock puppets.

Well your an arrogant one, are you?

I will donate 1000 NXT and 10,000 NEM (when distributed) to the individual who can find out his accounts and prove evidence to back it up.

If somebody feels like adding some coins in to the pot please do!

Well we could do website sign-up/ IP checking as someone suggested. It would take a bit of coordination/ effort but not impossible.
564  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 04, 2014, 08:14:01 PM
WELL, WELL, WELL - How is "I won't prevent multiple buy-in" equal to "I encourage multiple buy-in" ? I won't prevent people peeing in the street is very different from I encourage people peeing in the street.  It is clear that I said "I won't prevent multiple buy-in" because I couldn't at that point.

There are no new rules. The broad rules are still the same since day 1 including "the development team reserves the right to refund you the money if an effort to unfairly accumulate NEM stakes is discovered".

Taint analysis as well as activity analysis are considered new tools not new rules. DNA testing are applied back to many earlier unsolvable cases in early 80 when biological materials has emerged as the most reliable physical evidences at a crime scene. You remind me of certain rapists shouting why why why because when I did this/that there is no way someone could convict me.

I did not think of using these tools earlier and my thought that people won't take much effort to break the rules and register more than 5 shares seems to be wrong. But generally, I don't see any inconsistency in my thought of how the NEM fundrasing is supposed to work and how the NEM community is supposed to be.
565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 04, 2014, 03:13:15 PM
hello all,

I have been reading very good ideas during these 2 months,  to make a market adoption or make it known to the public like something they feel identify with.

Guys what I am going to say its only an idea , I don't want to change any rule or anything like that, its an idea only, why not to make like Aurora, we are still on time, why not to make 6 billions coins instead of 3 billions, we can still have our 1 millions of coins and the other 3 billions can be distributed freely to the people of Ukraine to every inhabitants equally. This will make NEM known worldwide and NEM will never die as this coin its part of the identity of a country like Aurora is for Iceland. It does not have to be Ukraine, I just say Ukraine as many people mention this country, it can be a country the community decide or management think will be best to promote NEM and make it a success. If we do this I am sure NEM will be a crypto coin that will last for many years and not die in a year or two. We need to make this crypto coin unique.

I think distributing 3 billions coins free to a big community, country etc and the the other 3 billions to the stakeholders its a WIN WIN formula

What do you think?

It is easy to give NEM away, but does that guarantee NEM will be used or be identity or anything. Don't be fooled by Aurora. I could make Highland coin tomorrow and giving them en masses to the Scottish. Does that mean Highland coin are Scottish identity ?  

In the case of Aurora in particular, we could just make 1 billion "Icelander" coin on top of NEM via asset exchange and giving them all away to Icelander for free. "Icelander" coin sounds more Iceland identity than Auora coin, don't you think ?

Here is what everyone could do when NEM colored coin implementation goes live. You can issue whatever coin you want: Ukraine coin, Russian coin, Indian coin, Mars coins very easily given the infrastructure. Now your only job when having these coins is to make them these national identities.  

If you are really enchanted by Aurora success, I would suggest you use my idea and go to coingen to make an "Icelander" coin. Copy the Aurora coin specification for your coin + setup an homepage and copy everything in Aurora one and make the Airdrop 3 days sooner. You could pay some more and ask Hazard for a customized production of the coin as well. He will even give tech support. Don't be fooled by Aurora, the only buyer is the one holding 50% of Aurora premine.

Sorry It was just only an idea, by the way utopianfuture  you are doing a great job by making a strong community here Smiley)

Hi that is okay and the discussion is good. Join in with NEM and we could make it a success together. And not just by doing some gimmicks, but by putting in real efforts, pushing for new technical innovations, as well as genuine social changes. 
566  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 04, 2014, 02:54:02 PM

Thanks. I will add a counter to the page when we have a certain timelines. It would look bad if we over-promise and cannot deliver. You could make a card in our board for the launch timer and add you and me in so I don't forget.


You mean trello board?
OK I will add a card there but I'm still not signed there.
Do I need to signup first to trello board and then wait for your invitation
or do I need to wait for your Invitation first to join trello board at all?


I added you in. check your email address for the invitation  .
567  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 04, 2014, 02:47:41 PM
hello all,

I have been reading very good ideas during these 2 months,  to make a market adoption or make it known to the public like something they feel identify with.

Guys what I am going to say its only an idea , I don't want to change any rule or anything like that, its an idea only, why not to make like Aurora, we are still on time, why not to make 6 billions coins instead of 3 billions, we can still have our 1 millions of coins and the other 3 billions can be distributed freely to the people of Ukraine to every inhabitants equally. This will make NEM known worldwide and NEM will never die as this coin its part of the identity of a country like Aurora is for Iceland. It does not have to be Ukraine, I just say Ukraine as many people mention this country, it can be a country the community decide or management think will be best to promote NEM and make it a success. If we do this I am sure NEM will be a crypto coin that will last for many years and not die in a year or two. We need to make this crypto coin unique.

I think distributing 3 billions coins free to a big community, country etc and the the other 3 billions to the stakeholders its a WIN WIN formula

What do you think?

It is easy to give NEM away, but does that guarantee NEM will be used or be identity or anything. Don't be fooled by Aurora. I could make Highland coin tomorrow and giving them en masses to the Scottish. Does that mean Highland coin are Scottish identity ?  

In the case of Aurora in particular, we could just make 1 billion "Icelander" coin on top of NEM via asset exchange and giving them all away to Icelander for free. "Icelander" coin sounds more Iceland identity than Auora coin, don't you think ?

Here is what everyone could do when NEM colored coin implementation goes live. You can issue whatever coin you want: Ukraine coin, Russian coin, Indian coin, Mars coins very easily given the infrastructure. Now your only job when having these coins is to make them these national identities.  

If you are really enchanted by Aurora success, I would suggest you use my idea and go to coingen to make an "Icelander" coin. Copy the Aurora coin specification for your coin + setup an homepage and copy everything in Aurora one and make the Airdrop 3 days sooner. You could pay some more and ask Hazard for a customized production of the coin as well. He will even give tech support. Don't be fooled by Aurora, the only buyer is the one holding 50% of Aurora premine.
568  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 04, 2014, 02:30:08 PM
Hello.

Some people here have spoken about using a counter to promote NEM.
I have implemented a counter in javascript that could be added to
ournem.com web page when the time comes.

I still need to check if it works correctly in different timezones.
Here is an example how it looks now on my local computer:



I don't know why this image won't show in my post Sad
anyway check this link if you are interested to see how it looks.

EDIT: I have put the wrong link!
Here is the right one
https://i.imgur.com/m3T5qfV.jpg?1

Enjoy Wink





Pretty awesome! have you already spoken to UP to set this counter on homepage?
In my opinion we would attract more people with a counter than without one.  Wink



who is UP? utopianfuture?

I think he knows about the counter I have told him that I will make one
so he can add it to the homepage when the time comes.
Now is still to early to add this to the page as there is no precise development timeline (deadlines).
As i see from the posts in this thread the developers are still testing POI algorithms.

Is better do some things in advance and be ready when is needed Wink


Thanks. I will add a counter to the page when we have a certain timelines. It would look bad if we over-promise and cannot deliver. You could make a card in our board for the launch timer and add you and me in so I don't forget.

569  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 04, 2014, 01:46:13 AM
It is my understanding that the devs are currently testing POI, and they aren't posting specifications on how it will work, because they are well, still testing it out.

Exactly

Yes, all the details of POI are not finalized. I am testing about 12 variants of a few algorithms, but so far the results look promising. If I had to release something today, I think I know what I would implement.

Great work, Devs. I am expecting your deliveries and believe NEM could exceed NXT.

We hope to do well. That being said, NEM isn't really in competition with NXT. There is no reason that both could not exist together. I own an amazing 0.4 BTC worth of NXT, so I am not really against it  Grin

I agree that there is definitely opportunity for NEM to outgrow NXT if done right.  NXT has some problems, not just distribution.  It is not helpful that the main dev for NXT wants to disappear and be a complete mystery and communication is not good.  I think having a bigger team of devs and better communication with the wider NEM community will be a big help.



Forget NXT, let's beat a worthless coin like Aurora.

Agree. Comparing NEM to NXT is missing the point. The market potential is so huge that just a certain innovative "trick" could lead to a huge success as in the case of Aurora. So why should we not focus on our own innovations and ideas instead ?

However, talking about Aurora I think its success would not be stable. Nothing prevents a competent developer + a good promoter making an "Iceland" coin and airdrop them a few week after the Auora airdrop. I'm actually surprised that no one did that yet.
570  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.--- on: March 03, 2014, 06:49:36 PM
I just checked my transaction
transaction ID: 5dc77cdf4864a4f878720e3b3452b149509668ae8ee3aad4c3fa9cbce84c2b53 (bitcoin)
it is claimed by user "codenamecoinss"
he told you he sent you BTC from a poker site, while I have all prove to show I am senting you BTC with an address I really own...
wow, really? Please check don't just see my username and think I am fraudster, many thanks, I want to sleep better too

This is a one rare case of foursome.

1229   8969152758   Y   duplicated hash   5dc77cdf4864a4f878720e3b3452b149509668ae8ee3aad4c3fa9cbce84c2b53            
1253   Bismark           Y   duplicated hash   5dc77cdf4864a4f878720e3b3452b149509668ae8ee3aad4c3fa9cbce84c2b53            
1189   codenamecoinss   Y   duplicated hash   5dc77cdf4864a4f878720e3b3452b149509668ae8ee3aad4c3fa9cbce84c2b53            
1203   cryptophonical   Y   duplicated hash   5dc77cdf4864a4f878720e3b3452b149509668ae8ee3aad4c3fa9cbce84c2b53   

I will add you in as the proven owner and kick all others out. sorry for the inconvenience.   
571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] Public auditing of stakeholder list on: March 02, 2014, 11:36:18 PM
Everthing is within your rights its your coin. However I know what you told about multiple stack holder at the beginning and I am sure not the only one that remembers.
 

I have a short memory. Please remind me what EXACTLY that I said or more accurately what I wrote. My history of posts are available for your checking. Thanks.
572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] Public auditing of stakeholder list on: March 02, 2014, 11:07:15 PM
Pardon me but what exactly are you doing??

In your initial stakeholder creation anouncement you more or less encuraged every person that likes, to create sockpuppets, it was perfectly fine then and now you call them, that did so, out here?

Those persons didn't do anything bad illegal or nasty they just used what you offered.

Certainly I do not like people hamstering stacks, I self reserved only 1, but if I were one of them I would be angry now. The bad thing was your offer not their actions.


Sorry if you or they misunderstood. Making sockpuppet accounts to claim more stakes are not what we offered. No one said about something illegal or nasty. We just don't accept contributions from certain cases which is entirely within our rights. Read the opener carefully first.
573  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] Public auditing of stakeholder list on: March 02, 2014, 11:04:37 PM
....



check your data and collect data from the OFFICIAL stakeholder list not the earlier one.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c&usp=drive_web#gid=0

Some of your entries here are incorrect from my first glance. I did check for double hashes manually before. I could have missed some cases but likely not that many.

1841 tomahawkerson   1867 nembit86   8.72E+018 and 352 SyRenity   353 PeercoinEnthusiast have been dealt with.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c&usp=drive_web#gid=1

there is
1841   tomahawkerson      8.72E+18
1867   nembit86   Y   8.72E+18

Do you mean that this case is corrected, when there is no "Y" in tomahawkerson?

I thought that the list contains only the recent stakeholders...


Thanks for pointing this out. I probably missed a step in making Thread 2. Will update the list soon. Noted for your contribution.

Updated the list up there.
Added IF(cell="Y") ...   10 account pairs dropped from the list, but still both SyRenity and PeercoinEnthusiast want to be there Smiley



When two accounts had the same hash but consecutive. What likely happened is that they sent the money almost at the same time and checked blockchain.info for the hash  found the wrong one. That happened in this case as both are veteran accounts and I have asked them about it.

Fraudsters often took a hash a bit further away to create a distance.
574  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] Public auditing of stakeholder list on: March 02, 2014, 10:31:10 PM
....



check your data and collect data from the OFFICIAL stakeholder list not the earlier one.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c&usp=drive_web#gid=0

Some of your entries here are incorrect from my first glance. I did check for double hashes manually before. I could have missed some cases but likely not that many.

1841 tomahawkerson   1867 nembit86   8.72E+018 and 352 SyRenity   353 PeercoinEnthusiast have been dealt with.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c&usp=drive_web#gid=1

there is
1841   tomahawkerson      8.72E+18
1867   nembit86   Y   8.72E+18

Do you mean that this case is corrected, when there is no "Y" in tomahawkerson?

I thought that the list contains only the recent stakeholders...


Thanks for pointing this out. I probably missed a step in making Thread 2. Will update the list soon. Noted for your contribution.
575  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] Public auditing of stakeholder list on: March 02, 2014, 09:53:42 PM
Restarted as it seems to be better to not transfer the data away from google sheet Smiley



Number1 Account1    Number2 Account2          hash which is common to Account1 and Account2
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

466 coinlover57   471 pacm4n   8f00fea919855adbedbcba6f2818052eb1362414caf5f1d3f64ff22256d2da1a
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

352 SyRenity   353 PeercoinEnthusiast             4b8b2427f28d8b12587ff2e418ab91c9de514c018d624daf75e49d81ba13d185

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2749 falseflag14   2760 Knisch             1.67E+019

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2667 Caesar V   2668 m4hr   24ede3fb300e2b58bfbd182e08a8b7e432efaebe67fcee754290f272d736ca07
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2429 TaporizER   2461 NEM_coin   ce5e6615803b7a22b1c9b9393cc7d3d2b78ac96d1da2a1b593da3c8db7c29f94
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2218 busywoman   2219 vaperension   74004fc5f6fa2b9b8c5ee2a70dcb2951fd30208255457d968e738aad42c5085e
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2210 j23a   2341 botija   1.06E+019
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2088 mr.pj   2167 c2e   2abc731044a44d063663292cee3d5cdcb09d61a3eba18a13605bd63041f483a1
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1868 babyfacebrother   1884 Afraid138Of 2a8d30299480fbc43ef39a4b66b33442ecb83accf382609862927b762daec112

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1842 Megalodon25   1875 eBeth   1.34E+019
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1841 tomahawkerson   1867 nembit86   8.72E+018
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1839 cafedelmar   1855 bmr1   f55b0f46e2a61323a1e27a0eccbf04d2f0e6c65df6069e40c4f7325473a46b51

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1836 glockenspiel   1853 sia331   e357a6a4603a23d1b651dc54d2adffaf0eaf98e6fe3bc9749c2cde89e90e7fef
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1835 AndyMOOR   1852 f376   1.15E+019
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1831 Carrera2   1848 Emill   7.86E+018
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1797 deathsky   1870 fordfella   03cd004583088fd92dd23fdae45bd7bda4c4f838d03c36956a05c5e1a1fe6156
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1791 misterbowls   1862 durygupta   2.68E+018
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1774 dwma   1863 holeefuk   1ed23c834d4d24a399eaf2415ff35f7530c0ba96233f74b412c1fd60f1e32639
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1748 lenco   1872 dianeshin   9.74E+018
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1728 Rideglia   1746 RaiderR   17cd5e776fa7d95c83c00dfbcc8c5446e4c7ffd4e00fd07ea59df622dfdbf369
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1724 Canthimortel   1735 rai00   3.35E+018
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1719 fONSORNOTO   1728 Rideglia   17cd5e776fa7d95c83c00dfbcc8c5446e4c7ffd4e00fd07ea59df622dfdbf369

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1699 DrSweizer   1708 rhythmic   eb94ee3c0d5a66284b3f1625270a8136d969c37613b71d34f570dac8868bcedd

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1575 antibitcoinconsortiumY   1586 taylormcm   14343293611098700000

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1532 sfinder   1549 sfinder   295163239033833000

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139 linfujun   602 linfujun   Huh

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1304 yeyo   1402 gsxrl3oi   1.17E+019

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1205 Frogster   1265 calduncan1978   c937be2fcf02debbbd6f6a264cda0cde9dc34042366c89911e1757bdb81a3655

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1008 ABCdeBTC   1009 xeroc   21cab4f770401cdaa42737229a1e97559c91d93af641d93fc3a091cb05630cde


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check your data and collect data from the OFFICIAL stakeholder list not the earlier one.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdHVfeU1BRFVoZkJ6QTRvcjc2cTQzQ2c&usp=drive_web#gid=0

Some of your entries here are incorrect from my first glance. I did check for double hashes manually before. I could have missed some cases but likely not that many.

1841 tomahawkerson   1867 nembit86   8.72E+018 and 352 SyRenity   353 PeercoinEnthusiast have been dealt with.
576  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] Public auditing of stakeholder list on: March 02, 2014, 09:41:23 PM
It's great to see you doing this. Wish you had listened to me back on page 40~ when I alerted you of this...

Would've been much easier to prevent than to go through thousands, but hopefully some will!

It has always been planned.
577  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] Public auditing of stakeholder list on: March 02, 2014, 09:39:43 PM
does it means that one person example:

1Ae6YxNMeJWtaLCSzQQe7Pqfb2MFRVbHH2  

had made 39 new accounts to send money to become 39 different stakes?

That means over 1% of all NEM stakes?!


Different btc addresses in the same group have connection so in this case there are 120+ accounts.

let's pay careful attention in 120+ accounts in group 1. Most of them belong to group 3 activity which mean these accounts are made solely for registering NEM. Could Kooream elaborate more on the connection between these accounts ?
578  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.--- on: March 02, 2014, 08:58:40 PM
My stake was in the original list, but didn't make it into the unified list.
link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4785348#msg4785348
a signed message from one of the inputs:
Code:
1HdGSYPjWuJXHEUXxL3kGARgn8m4b2Ze73
Code:
bf340bd71c6806a50b6eb6eba8089d153d95d5c723dadc461e61e4f188008507 was made for the benefit of fusecavator
Code:
Hz5Mp/eKKY/ydQSmQfVBM9UTVsljZzOmzB0oR9PeSEbokpE0MP77Lue+u0u5Bg24BOXZpb/m1T6sdQ3+xiUgyXg=


1069   fusecavator   Y   bf340bd71c6806a50b6eb6eba8089d153d95d5c723dadc461e61e4f188008507            
1041   OVOALE   Y   bf340bd71c6806a50b6eb6eba8089d153d95d5c723dadc461e61e4f188008507            

I swapped you in and kicked the fraudster out. sorry for the inconvenience.
The posted list for public auditing shows I was removed again.

You are still in but in a slightly non ordered position. USE Crtl-F to search for your name instead.
579  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] Public auditing of stakeholder list on: March 02, 2014, 08:23:08 PM
@Kooream: could you link the hash with account name ?

Could every bounty hunters link the sockpuppet accounts to their positions in the stakeholder list ? It is looking like a clam chowder now.
580  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: March 02, 2014, 08:11:53 PM

You seem to be the next person following Mr. 2Kool2skew trying to sabotage NEM fundraising with this kind of 80% socket bullshit. It is well established that there are at least 1500 unique accounts in NEM stakeholder list.

I have never seen 1500 unique users number before, but if that is true, good.

I am not trying  to "sabotage" Nem.

For god's sake stop being so sensitive and thin skinned. I was posting some suggestions.

Fine.  I will stop posting to this thread from now.

See you at launch as I am stakeholder

Bye


Suggestions are good  but that is different from pushing for an agenda. You have to check the fact before you are saying something like 80% sockpuppet which obviously associates with an agenda otherwise you are just so stupid for saying so without checking. Don't make up the number on the go to support your argument. Any NEM supporter knows about the published NEM stakeholder population statistics which makes your claim ridiculous.
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