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1241  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEM :: descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins on: January 22, 2014, 03:38:21 AM
utopianfuture, how many stakeholders do you intend on having ? or is it something thats not been decided yet ?

If we have 4000 stakeholders. Then each would have an initial stake of 1 million. Look like a good number to me.
1242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM - No Envy Movement - Discussion thread on: January 22, 2014, 01:44:06 AM
Plz. secure the NXT account 14343293611098709683 by buying an alias or something else.

Good point.
1243  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEM :: descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins on: January 22, 2014, 01:42:44 AM
We will also allocate 1% for VISACOIN investors who lost their money.  This requires verification only that they sent BTC to the VISACOIN BTC donation address.  This is given freely.

I must congratulate FrictionlessCoin on this proposal to use part of the NEX genesis block distribution to compensate the VisaCoin victims!!

I would say that the other side of the 'coin' for GetVisaCoin is sending a message of deterrence to future scammers, so my hunt for VisaCoin will continue.

This proposal does not alter my plan to offer the stolen bitcoins as a bounty (plus my 5 bitcoins) to an honest hacker in China to catch VisaCoin, but maybe I'm out of the NXT cloning business now.

If the VisaCoin victims are compensated elsewhere, then maybe the bounty hunter looking for VisaCoin can have the full 130 bitcoins, plus my 5.

Hopefully other NXT clone developers will consider offering something similar (I'm not going to discourage a bidding war either!).

Thanks again FrictionlessCoin!




Is NEM prepared to consider compensation for the VisaCoin victims? NEX is including them now.


NEX is based on lies but NEM is the real deal. Sorry I can't make any exception to the original distribution rules. But if the victims of Visacoin wants to join in they can

contact me (PM) and I will send 0.001 BTC of my personal money to them so that they can reserve one initial stake spot.
1244  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEM :: descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins on: January 22, 2014, 12:25:50 AM
Thank you opticalcarrier. Your support is a huge boost to my morale.  

Ill suggest you to change the ports used - then you can use my army of VPSs.  Let me know if theres any other way I can help.  Unfortunately I cannot code - am limited to shell/perl/expect scripting.

Have you set up a github yet?  I can do this and load the decompiled 5.9 source later tomorrow if need be.

I have a plan. PM you.
1245  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEM :: descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins on: January 22, 2014, 12:16:35 AM
OK Count me in,  I posted in the alt currency section at nxtcrypto forums.

https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=640#p2991

Quote
Interesting.  Our own UtopianFuture will be forking NXT and will create his own cryptocurrency.  Im not 100% sure but I believe he was an original NXT stakeholder.  Ive worked with him a bit on the NXT Foundation and these forums and I trust him enough to mention this here, and to see how I can get involved myself.


Thank you opticalcarrier. Your support is a huge boost to my morale. 
1246  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM - No Envy Movement - Discussion thread on: January 21, 2014, 11:51:13 PM
I apologize in advance for this question but why would it take until April to clone the code bases?  What exactly is a code base?

It is not easy to start a fork and a new genesis block with NXT code bases. We are going NXT codes but it has to be adapted to our new distribution scheme. So things take

time and probably need a good cryptographer to make it happen. So we will move forward but patience is needed.

Why not develop NEM on top of Nxt blockchain, you could be the first and it would be very successful.  Plus, you would have all the resources from CFB and JL to make it happen.

I have a plan Smiley NEM will also based on NXT blockchain but there will be more  Smiley
1247  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEM :: descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins on: January 21, 2014, 11:37:59 PM
I made a thread about NEM in nextcoin forum https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,3355.0.html to satisfy the second condition " show support for NEM".

Count me in for a stake holder spot.

Confirmed. To all others, please read the first page. After page 20 there are condition to reserve a initial stake spot. It is very easy but you have to make a small effort or pay the fee to join in now. Without doing so, your interest does not count. Please follow these two conditions and edit your post to reserve the initial stake spot.

@hyunsookmom: the thread has been open for three days so no reason people in Asia cannot see it. Do as instructed in the first page to reserve a initial stake spot.
1248  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM - No Envy Movement - Discussion thread on: January 21, 2014, 10:22:25 PM
I apologize in advance for this question but why would it take until April to clone the code bases?  What exactly is a code base?

It is not easy to start a fork and a new genesis block with NXT code bases. We are going to use NXT codes but it has to be adapted to our new distribution scheme. So things take time and probably need a good cryptographer to make it happen. So we will move forward but patience is needed.
1249  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEM :: descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins on: January 21, 2014, 10:12:52 PM
please take me in for free you'll be happy to have me  Smiley  and I don't get any tips yet.

@wosch and uccoins : got them

@drakoin : no need to send the fee in; you can reserve a spot in other manners as directed in the first page.
1250  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEM :: descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins on: January 21, 2014, 09:44:17 PM
interested

af004a4f0467952d9480b7c108bb3d61477c3249efe322e77198904522fa701c-000

https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/af004a4f0467952d9480b7c108bb3d61477c3249efe322e77198904522fa701c

for your support

Confirmed.
1251  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEM :: descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins on: January 21, 2014, 09:39:45 PM
Interested, thank you.

Cut-off post. Follow the first page rule to reserve a stake spot. Merin is not yet a stake holder.
1252  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] Discussion thread on: January 21, 2014, 09:22:33 PM
Fee is only for you ?

Integrity guaranteed. I won't not touch the NXT, BTC sent to this project until an official date for the genesis block is announced. I am serious about this project and want to go forward. Some people in NXT community know my real name, my skype ---> no scam possible. The money collected here will be dedicated 100% to developers to make the genesis block and other supporting apps. All goes to make NEM a feasible project.

If you want to use escrow, feel free to ask Anon to hold your money until I have an official date for launching the genesis block. Show proof that he holds your fund, then you reserve a stake spot.  

Use other escrow if you want but have to be a reputable member and you have to pay escrow fee.

I understand. My question is about your profit. After start these funds (NXT,BTC) be yours.
Have you for it some fair deal ?

No these funds will go to developers. I can't make everything for NEM. So for many things we may have to pay.  Every single cent will be spent on development in a transparent manner.

Just a note: if you question about my motive; then I don't have any motive other than trying to make NEM work.
1253  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM - No Envy Movement - Discussion thread on: January 21, 2014, 09:21:04 PM
Any news

Here is plan.

We are going to wait until

1. It is feasible to clone NXT code bases, it would probably not possible until April even though it might be possible earlier  

2. Gathering a mass movement with at least more than 3000 stake holders.

3. In the mean time, we can discuss making logo, currency symbol, setting forum; discussing everything else

4. At some point, I will set up some type of exchange to buy/ sell initial stakes. This will probably happen before the genesis block.

5. Community should give input and make the movement possible. Because at this point I only have 1 account stake as many others.
1254  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] Discussion thread on: January 21, 2014, 09:10:06 PM
Fee is only for you ?

Integrity guaranteed. I won't not touch the NXT, BTC sent to this project until an official date for the genesis block is announced. I am serious about this project and want to go forward. Some people in NXT community know my real name, my skype ---> no scam possible. The money collected here will be dedicated 100% to developers to make the genesis block and other supporting apps. All goes to make NEM a feasible project.

If you want to use escrow, feel free to ask Anon to hold your money until I have an official date for launching the genesis block. Show proof that he holds your fund, then you reserve a stake spot.  

Use other escrow if you want but have to be a reputable member and you have to pay escrow fee.
1255  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] Discussion thread on: January 21, 2014, 09:06:24 PM
20 Pages = 400 posts.

So upto 400 People actually Wink

Some people registered twice and we also have some banter there. So we are moving here to banter instead  Smiley
1256  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: January 21, 2014, 09:01:57 PM
Continue here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=650274.0



NEW ECONOMY MOVEMENT

Financial Freedom - Decentralization - Egalitarian Crypto
Proof of Importance - Decentralized Exchange - Secure Messaging


NEM - development team

Please read NEM development contract  (do read NEM summary enclosed)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19so-Jy3Gqw2KltZP-gaw3oFaHliN0OdtwZktOP4pCOQ/edit

A note on organization:

We believe the NEM's core principles of fairness and equality will attract many other talented developers and helpers. So while all of us are committed to NEM, we would welcome others developers/ helpers to join us and make NEM a success.

NEMSTER volunteer survey https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1b_8enfEjlP_NtCXlYhUUvcIEgEyhtwgroK9EdWa2vBc/viewform


NEM website: http://www.ournem.com/
NEM promotion board https://trello.com/b/GEWEPSZJ/nem-promotion ; Please contact UtopianFuture to join in.
NEM ecosystem board https://trello.com/b/9psFZ0aQ/nem-ecosystem ; Please contact UtopianFuture to join in.
NEM reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/nem/
NEM facebookpage : https://www.facebook.com/ourNEM
NEM forum http://forum.nemcoin.com
NEM twitter: https://twitter.com/nemcoin
NEM public IRC channel: #ournem (freenode)

NEM final stakeholder list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdFRROFFGVUpwcFFXcHVCdGc0a3NuQVE&usp=drive_web#gid=10

NEM refund, change account, other complaints thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=612105.msg6770626#msg6770626


Join us to make a better world.

History of the fundraising: NEM started with a call for active participants to join a new decentralized network movement. The fundraising was designed to promote fairness and egalitarianism with the principle of 1 account/ 1 stake. Our goal is to spread NEM widely and equally to many people (but not perfectly equal). Please see the history of fundraising in these two threads:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.0

Please see our development plan for the details of NEM's features. NEM's code bases are written completely from the scratch. NEM plans to combine the best features of Bitcoin, NXT and Bitshare system plus its own innovations. Highlight innovations of NEMcoin decentralized network includes:

+ Unlike Bitcoin and other mining coins, all NEM would be distributed at the genesis block. NEM stakeholders are its own network nodes which verify the transactions and protect the network following a hybrid of Proof of Stake/ Proof of Importance forging mechanism. This type of distribution eliminates the need to have a mining industry which is an external force that imposes a huge cost to Bitcoin and other POW networks. The computational arm-race is avoided by using the hybrid of Proof of Stake/ Proof of Importance forging mechanism.

+ A novel method Proof of Importance haversting that rewards the nodes that are most important to the network, not the nodes with the biggest number of NEM.

+ Support for colored coin implementation and the asset exchange is designed in the beginning with advanced features such as automatic settlement, assets listed with an expiration date. NEM focuses on the usability of the asset exchange to make them the premier platform for fundraising, asset listing, token issuing etc.

+ Secure messages for contract storage and personal communication.

V1 blockchain plans to include all these above features, while more advanced features such as parallel blockchains, reputation system are in discussion and will be included in V2 blockchain in later dates.  

NEM videos :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2cNKqH-4Wc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuNeM94ZOZM&feature=youtu.be
http://vimeo.com/85859058

FAQ:

1. How many shares of NEM would I get ?

In short: there are 4 billion NEM and 1stake = 1million NEM
See the NEM summary for more detail https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A9p6QZcUoDvezVMUsp2kYaF8g_jTNPFPL5e3Tli-jaI/edit#gid=0

2. What is the difference between regular stakes and development stakes ?

No difference except that development stakes are reserved for NEM developers/ helpers and they can use their regular accounts for these stakes.

3. How can I get my shares ?

You will need to access your BTT account to send a PM or make a post confirming the ownership of the account to claim your share. Detail instructions in an announcement will be posted here, NEM reddit, NEM facebook, ournem website and the announcement will last at least 1 month. It is your responsibility to read and follow the instructions to claim your shares. So please check back frequently. Thanks.

NOW you can buy NEM pre-launch in Nxt asset exchange

ASSET NAME : NEMstake

ACCOUNT : NXT-J62B-CNAR-34YW-4RCFN

ASSET ID : 12465186738101000735

ISSUING TIME:  5/30/2014 at 12.00 GMT or 7.00 A.M EST

Current market price:
http://nxtblocks.info/#section/assets_exchange/12465186738101000735

Read conversion rules and ask a question here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=616467.0

Please read NEM development contract before investing  (do read NEM summary enclosed)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19so-Jy3Gqw2KltZP-gaw3oFaHliN0OdtwZktOP4pCOQ/edit


Updates

1/19 : the fundraising began
2/17 : the fundraising first phase ended  
update 2/17 : plans ahead https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg5206938#msg5206938
update 2/19 : an unified stake holder list would be made on 2/22 which is three days from today. You need to file a complaint in the stake complaint thread by that day if you think you are a stakeholder but you are not on the list or on the list without Y.
update 2/21 : waiting list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=467027.msg5159558#msg5159558
update 2/24 : what is stakeholder list public auditing ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg5338775#msg5338775; unified stakeholder list published (check the link above)
update 3/2 : the stakeholder list public auditing begins. Read the rules here  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=496112.msg5463089#msg5463089
update 3/10: a short update on coding progress https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg5615748#msg5615748
update 3/10: logo committee is formed.
update 3/12: looking for a UI/ UX designer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg5662029#msg5662029
update 3/12: future plans explained https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg5668983#msg5668983
update 3/29: development update https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg5973475#msg5973475
update 4/10: waiting list is closed. NEM fundraising is now officially closed
update 4/18: final stakeholder list published and some allocation details. Somehow the post was deleted, I will write a more fully announcement later on. In the meantime Check this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg6276789#msg6276789
update 4/29: marketing manager position open https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg6458760#msg6458760
update 5/1: small update https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg6491667#msg6491667 ; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg6490600#msg6490600
update 5/10: update + final stakeholder list release https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg6664079#msg6664079
update 5/17: NEM has more than 1000 veteran account stakeholders. Population statistics https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg6784272#msg6784272

update 5/19: NEM public auction explanation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg6821199#msg6821199

update 5/19: Issuing NEM stake tokens via an asset exchange (Nxt) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=616467.0

update 5/25: IMPORTANT Development contract published (preliminary draft)  (do read NEM summary enclosed)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19so-Jy3Gqw2KltZP-gaw3oFaHliN0OdtwZktOP4pCOQ/edit

update 6/1: NEM ecosystem board is public. Developers are welcomed. https://trello.com/b/9psFZ0aQ/nem-ecosystem

update 6/1: Survey. Important. Fill it out. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg7083233#msg7083233

update 6/5: Jaguar0625 explains NEM roadmap: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg7159474#msg7159474

update 6/8: Open Alpha is scheduled on 6/25 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg7202161#msg7202161
1257  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] Join NEM before fee to join is installed on: January 21, 2014, 08:55:30 PM
utopianfuture, do you restrict the early adoptors in joining again after 20pages.

After page 20, a fee will be installed for late adopters. People who join after page 20 will still be distributed an equal share of NEM but they have to pay a fee to join in. Then after that at every 10 pages, the fee will be adjusted as a multiple of the initial fee. 
1258  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEM :: descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins on: January 21, 2014, 08:37:24 PM
interested

Page 20 is not after page 20, right?

After this page, fee will be installed.
1259  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEM :: descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins on: January 21, 2014, 08:11:50 PM
Very Interested in beeing part of that project, its interesting what you are gonna doing with that coin and model of economy. I would like to know if there is some new information about planned websites, exchanges and resellers projects?

Can't promise you anything big except I will try to make the genesis block and a client available. All other things depend on the community.
1260  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEM :: descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins on: January 21, 2014, 08:10:44 PM
Interested, sign me in could support in dev tasks (Java)

Hey Thies1965. You are a developer of this project. I will contact you at some points. Let me know if you have any idea for the project.
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