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441  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Coinbound Podcast - Marketing in the age of cryptocurrencies and blockchain on: May 28, 2019, 08:36:06 AM
These are pretty interesting Daniel, I'd definitely be interested in joining one of these if you ever want to have a dedicated episode about Steem.
I've got some pretty interesting contacts there as well, such as Oracle-D, which is a company that's crowdsourcing content on Steem to promote a wide variety of businesses.

Looking forward to the next episodes!

Cheers!

@daan
442  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NEW SCAM METHOD EMBRACED BY CRYPTOCURRENCY SCAMMERS on: May 28, 2019, 08:29:49 AM
No kidding, it's not new, scammers have been using that tactic for years now & alarm bells should be going off in your head once they ask you for money.
It's practically the same as those scams where websites promise you a free amount of BTC supposedly with 'no strings attached' and then when you want to withdraw, they charge you a small amount.

You'd have to be a real fool to fall for one of those scams...
443  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will NBA teams start paying Bitcoin to their players? on: May 27, 2019, 03:31:03 PM
How could anyone know this without having access to insider information?
No offense, but this is such a random question, I kinda wonder why you want to speculate on something as random as this Tongue
444  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How do you feel about businesses that stop accepting Bitcoin? on: May 23, 2019, 06:45:29 PM
Thinking about taxes, it would be efficient to buy lots of stuff with BTC, this way you can avoid paying taxes when converting to Fiat.

Where I'm at just because you've bought something without converting to fiat does not mean you're magically immune from the tax on the difference between the price you paid for the BTC and the price you spent it at.

I suspect he's talking about it being less easy to trace. It has crossed my mind as well, to just buy some high value item instead of cashing out to my bank account.
In the end, I do report everything to the tax man though Tongue
445  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How do you feel about businesses that stop accepting Bitcoin? on: May 23, 2019, 04:44:34 PM
Then again, there are businesses that keep accepting Bitcoin despite all the negative aspects, so when they do that, I'll give them some extra support when I can.
Agreed. I have talked before on here about a vendor at my local weekly farmers market who started to accept bitcoin, and has continued to do so through the recent bear market. Prior to this, I visited the farmers market about once a month, and bought from a variety of vendors - their produce is always better than the supermarkets obviously, but it is a little bit out of my way unless I have another reason to head up that neck of the woods, and so I didn't often make the journey. Now though, I'm down there probably 3 weekends a month, and I'm almost exclusively buying from the one vendor who accepts bitcoin. I'm happy to trade a little inconvenience to support him, and I'm always hopeful the other vendors might take note of the extra bitcoin business he gets.

Yup, I definitely act the same. Heck, back in 2014 I started purchasing beef jerky from someone who was selling it here on the forum.
They had beef jerky that wasn't at all available where I live, so I didn't mind paying a small premium for it.

I'm all for supporting small businesses, especially when they accept Bitcoin.
446  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How do you feel about businesses that stop accepting Bitcoin? on: May 23, 2019, 04:04:36 PM
Take note, these services are businesses; not charities.
I also understand the decision to continue accepting bitcoin is a business decision at the end of the day
Pretty much this. There is a small, local company who I occasionally shop from who started accepting bitcoin directly (i.e. not via BitPay or similar) around 18 months ago during the height of the bull run, and stopped taking it at the end of last year, just after the crash down to ~$3,000. I spoke to the owner about it the next time I was in and tried to pay with bitcoin - she told me it simply wasn't worth the hassle for her anymore. She was having to dedicate time and money to training staff on how it works, curating their wallets, cashing out, sorting out taxes, sometimes dealing with refunds, etc. At peak prices, it was generating enough income to make that worthwhile she told me, but that simply wasn't the case during the bear market.

We can't expect businesses to do something that isn't profitable just because we want them to. If we want them to accept bitcoin permanently, then we simply need more people to want to pay in bitcoin.

Fair enough, I definitely understand that it might just not be in businesses best interest in keep accepting Bitcoin, but on the other hand, I do find it pretty telling that they'd throw in the towel so soon.
In the case of Steam, I think they only lasted a couple of months.

Granted, the main reason why they stopped accepting Bitcoin, was because of the many support requests due to the increased amount of fees.

Then again, there are businesses that keep accepting Bitcoin despite all the negative aspects, so when they do that, I'll give them some extra support when I can.

I used to spend some bitcoins with Fiverr until it stopped to use it. Well no big deal, another site get my money, no wrong feeling. Enterprises aren't really interested in BTC itself it's rather to respond to demand and/or to increase their sales. Very few are real BTC enthusiasts.

What you never know, and that's a shame, is why they leave Bitcoin once it's introduced. It cannot be a matter of volatility because, as I said, most of them convert into fiats. Is this a lack of knowledge, no adequate infrastructure or local laws.
Although on the user end everything is done to be easy to use on the business end there is still a lot to do.

Oh yeah completely forgot about Fiverr, good that you mention it.
don't use them a lot anymore, but that's for other reasons.

Expedia used to accept bitcoin and no longer does.

As much as I like to spend my coins directly to businesses, most businesses that accept bitcoin instantly cash out via their payment processor.

I also understand the decision to continue accepting bitcoin is a business decision at the end of the day and I cannot fault a business who declines to continue accepting bitcoin.

Ah yeah, Expedia, I've had a pretty bad experience with them. Last year I was planning a trip and wanted to pay part of that trip with Bitcoin, only to find out that Expedia stopped accepting Bitcoin.
447  Economy / Service Discussion / How do you feel about businesses that stop accepting Bitcoin? on: May 23, 2019, 09:19:55 AM
Remember when Steam decided to accept Bitcoin, only to roll back their decision later on?
Does stuff like that have any effect on your view of said business?

Or the other way around, do you look at a business more positively when they've kept accepting Bitcoin, also during hard times (bear markets, high fees, etc.)?

For me, it has kinda altered my view of Steam for example, I feel it was kind of a cop out when they decided to stop accepting Bitcoin payments.

Also, my mobile provider in Belgium once accepted Bitcoin (Mobile Vikings), but then they were taken over by another company, who then removed Bitcoin payments.
That caused me to switch providers, not just because of that though, the other company gave way worse service.

Now, Takeaway.com on the other hand has accepted Bitcoin from the beginning and never stopped accepting it afaik.
I tend to order more from there because of this, I have this tradition where I order a bunch of pizza from them on Bitcoin Pizza Day, paying with Bitcoin of course.

How about you, do you have any similar stories?
448  Other / Meta / Re: Plagiarism should remain a zero-tolerance bannable offense on: May 23, 2019, 08:34:41 AM
Right. So go back to the example that I showed. Was my mistake delibarate? If yes, why? If not, why not? How can you, as an outsider tell?

No, I reckon that any mod who saw that being quoted, would look at the context and deem it to be a simple mistake.
I mean, it's generally pretty easy to spot honest mistakes among deliberate acts of plagiarism. Some people ITT call it murky, but I disagree, most cases are pretty clear.

As I've mentioned in the OP, these are not the cases I'm talking about, I'd classify this as a simple mistake and yes, they're fairly easy to spot.
Sure, mistakes can happen with regards to moderating, but once it's laid out in the open and looked at by many people, I think almost everyone would agree that it's a simple case of posting a quote and genuinely forgetting to add the source.

If I post this:
Quote
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

I would think that just having the quotes there would be enough to discount it from being plagiarism. It's also perfectly logical to have the quotes there, since, well, you're posting a quote...

Should I add a source to that quote? Or would that be fine without it? I'd think it would be fine without it, although I'd argue that adding it is just a bit more polite to do, so:

Source: Charles Caleb Colton
449  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Steemit.com: Blogging is the new Mining on: May 22, 2019, 05:32:43 PM
What services which allow to multiply our STEEM (Steem Power/ by leasing etc) are the most attractive now?
What are the ways to earn additional STEEM at all? I heard about services which allow to delegate votes or so - I am looking for the best way to allow my SPs to not lay useless when I am not using steem Wink

Delegate to a bid bot such as smartsteem or upmewhale and they will send your share of the bids daily.

That may not be the highest return possible (and probably isn't) but it is definitely the easiest by far.

You can find a list of operating bid bots here: https://steembottracker.com/

Isn't there a more ethical way to earn rewards on our stake?
Not that I'm completely against bid bots, but I'd rather invest in something that benefits Steem overall.

Also, surprised to see you here, didn't know you were an active Bitcointalk user Tongue
450  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Blockfi offers compound interest on crypto savings on: May 22, 2019, 04:13:19 PM
What the hell, why would they backtrack on the rates they've promised, that's reason enough for me to not want to get involved.
Okay, they've upped it a little bit for BTC, but they should just stick with what they've promised or not announce anything at all regarding the interest.

From the article:
Quote
Those holding over 100 ETH balances will earn just 0.2 percent APY
Source: https://www.coindesk.com/crypto-lending-startup-blockfi-slashing-interest-rates-on-ether-deposits?

Yikes, now that's definitely not worth it... Or is that a typo?
451  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling site that offer Free spin? on: May 22, 2019, 01:10:53 PM
While they don't have slots, Bitsler does offer you the ability to claim free Bitsler credits to play for free.
If you end up with the highest balance that day, you can win some real-money prizes.

Aside from that, they usually have other bonuses for when you play with real money.
452  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: sick of high fees Ive moved over to alts on: May 22, 2019, 12:24:54 PM
Fees really aren't that bad anymore at the moment, I don't think I've paid more than around 75 cents in fees in the past couple of days.
Didn't have to wait too long for confirmations, like an hour at most.
Now, I don't typically pay what my wallet suggests, I look up the fees beforehand.

https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/

You can see that a lot of people are just overpaying at the moment.
453  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin online casino on: May 22, 2019, 11:55:16 AM
Just use a VPN and you can generally play at any casino that doesn't require you to submit KYC information.
Seems silly to not use one if you're from the US and looking to play at a crypto casino.
454  Other / Meta / Re: Plagiarism should remain a zero-tolerance bannable offense on: May 22, 2019, 10:26:56 AM
We've all seen the excuses in the recent mass ban appeals, first they claim to have no idea why they were banned and then they claim it's 'such a hard punishment' for a 'simple' mistake.
Those are the same things they've always said, and it's definitely bullshit. 

I'm not sure what the situation is with plagiarism bans right now--are people still getting permabans with some people getting exceptions in the form of signature bans?  If Theymos made an official post about it, I must have missed it--but I do know exceptions are being made for members who are otherwise productive members of the forum.

The main issue IMO with the recent mass banning is that the punishment is (I'm assuming) for plagiarism that happened a long time ago, and some of these members might not have repeated that behavior since then.  In those cases I do think it's very harsh to permaban them, though I think a signature ban is appropriate. 

OP, I agree that plagiarism is despicable and shouldn't be tolerated--but even if not all of the members who recently got caught got permabanned, it's definitely sending a loud and clear message to would-be plagiarists.  Hopefully we'll see a lot less of it from here on out.

Completely fair response, I guess it would be acceptable to issue a temporary punishment in cases where plagiarism happened a long time ago and the person has stopped doing this afterwards.
I'm all for letting people learn from their mistakes and giving them a second chance, even though the OP indicates otherwise.

Guess I can't really comprehend why someone would take such a stupid shortcut on purpose. To me it seems such a simple thing to avoid really and I do really hate the practise of stealing someone's words and passing them as one's own. Heck, I'd be able to write much more intelligent responses if I were able to do that :')

How is plagiarism an acceptable mistake? Do you even know what plagiarism means?

From the Oxford Dictionary:

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The practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own.
Source: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/plagiarism

In what world is it ever acceptable to pass someone else's work off as your own? That's what we're talking about, right?
In this world, right here. Read again:

Absolute e-warior bullshit. Nobody in the real world strongly cares about that unless we're talking about published/for-profit work.
Acceptable or not, fact is that it can, has, and will happen as a mistake. Claiming otherwise is DISHONEST. This is not even up for debate as it's a factual statement. Hence, end of story.

Well, that is not what I'm saying though, I'm specifically focusing on the deliberate act of passing off someone's work as your own. By definition, something like that cannot happen by accident.
But hey, maybe it's better to just agree to disagree.
455  Other / Meta / Re: Give good posters amnesty on: May 22, 2019, 10:15:59 AM
@mocacinno

I don't think 'verjaring' applies here (also speak Dutch btw), plagiarism should be compared with academic plagiarism IMO.
When that happens, the also go through the entire body of work of the author and academics can actually lose tenure over something like that.
I mean, it's amazingly hard to fire someone who has tenure, though universities do it when severe cases of plagiarsm have been found.
As I've mentioned in other threads, I don't think the hard-line approach is bad in cases of plagiarism, no matter when it was committed.

In this case I'm talking about cases of blatant plagiarism, not simple mistakes by forgetting to add a source to a quote or something.
456  Other / Meta / Re: [Ban Appeal] bill gator on: May 22, 2019, 09:52:31 AM
Sorry Bill, I'd just ride it out if I were you, I'd just be glad you didn't get nuked straight away.

Now just because I'm curious, what made you think it was a good idea to purchase an account? Even taking into account that it might not have been as frowned upon back in 2015 (although I doubt that).
I know you kinda explained it in your post, but it seems logical to think that this would come to bite you in the ass one day, as we're now seeing.

Starting a new account and spending a couple of months building it up isn't that bad, right? Especially when there weren't any merit requirements.

I thought I remembered account sales being frowned upon back in 2015, but I could just be misremembering.
457  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Is it effective to advertise crypto projects via bloggers? on: May 21, 2019, 05:29:32 PM
I've done many paid articles on my blog, but i'm generally pretty wary of writing about projects that are still in development.
I don't want to promote any subpar projects and I have rejected offers in the past because of this.

I think most writers would do the same thing. In fact, it would be really odd if writers accepted any offer that they receive, which in turn can make their blog/content platform to be full of promotions, and then it will be your regular bounty hunter spam.

Not sure about that, I know many bloggers who will just accept any project, as long as they pay them enough...
Remember Bitconnect? How many people were shilling that project, while everyone knew that it couldn't last.

Money does strange things to people Tongue
458  Other / Meta / Re: Plagiarism should remain a zero-tolerance bannable offense on: May 21, 2019, 05:10:24 PM
I really don't know how someone could make a mistake like that. I mean the chances of you accidentally writing the same content as someone else, word-for-word, are just so small.
This reads as something you'd find in /r/thathappened to be honest. Without any concrete example of what you wrote, it really hard to believe you on this.

I mean if you just think logically about it, who writes a post and then consciously thinks about checking whether it's been written before, using the exact same words and structure?
Yet it happened, yet I did it. We're talking about today. It has probably happened many times to me in the past. It has probably happened to many other people as well. You don't read a lot, do you?

Nice, attacking my point with passive-aggressive insults.


It's a soap-opera-like discussion forum, I'm not submitting a dissertation for crying out loud. How do I de-merit this thread to oblivion?
Gee, thanks :-/ I was obviously talking about the conscious act of copying someone's work and passing it off as your own. Yes, if you do that, you're a shit person. I stand by what I said there.
Absolute e-warior bullshit. Nobody in the real world strongly cares about that unless we're talking about published/for-profit work. Focusing on such nonsense is why people remain with narrow-minded. Miss me with your virtue signalling bullshit. It is a acceptable mistake especially when it is done once or even very very rarely.

How is plagiarism an acceptable mistake? Do you even know what plagiarism means?

From the Oxford Dictionary:

Quote
The practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own.
Source: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/plagiarism

In what world is it ever acceptable to pass someone else's work off as your own? That's what we're talking about, right?


Edit: I know I'm sounding a bit hypocritical here, since my reply is also fairly passive-aggressive. Sorry for that.
459  Other / Meta / Re: Plagiarism should remain a zero-tolerance bannable offense on: May 21, 2019, 04:17:36 PM
Plagiarism is not a simple mistake in most cases, it's a conscious decision that people make in order to increase their post count and make money off of that.
Frankly, anyone who engages in copying other people's work without giving proper credit for it, should get banned immediately without any exceptions.
This is utter bullshit. I almost made this mistake today, and the only thing that reminded me to review my post was all this plagiarism paranoia that has been going on the past few days. I did not even know where the thing that I posted was from, i.e. had absolutely no idea it was plagiarism without a source until I looked it up.

I really don't know how someone could make a mistake like that. I mean the chances of you accidentally writing the same content as someone else, word-for-word, are just so small.
This reads as something you'd find in /r/thathappened to be honest. Without any concrete example of what you wrote, it really hard to believe you on this.

I mean if you just think logically about it, who writes a post and then consciously thinks about checking whether it's been written before, using the exact same words and structure?

Most people don't plagiarize, because they're just decent persons, so I'd highly recommend not giving any free-passes to those who do plagiarize.
It's a soap-opera-like discussion forum, I'm not submitting a dissertation for crying out loud. How do I de-merit this thread to oblivion?

Gee, thanks :-/ I was obviously talking about the conscious act of copying someone's work and passing it off as your own. Yes, if you do that, you're a shit person. I stand by what I said there.
460  Other / Meta / Plagiarism should remain a zero-tolerance bannable offense on: May 21, 2019, 01:38:02 PM
I've seen a bunch of topics where people argue that there should be some leeway given to long-time members who've plagiarized and have been banned because of that.

Examples:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145434.0 (Improving the current ban situation)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5144084.0 (Any managers lost good posters due recent mass ban?)

Instead of replying to those topics and arguing why I personally don't agree with the soft-handed approach they're suggesting, I thought it was a better idea to start a dedicated topic about it.



Plagiarism is not a simple mistake in most cases, it's a conscious decision that people make in order to increase their post count and make money off of that.
Frankly, anyone who engages in copying other people's work without giving proper credit for it, should get banned immediately without any exceptions.

We've all seen the excuses in the recent mass ban appeals, first they claim to have no idea why they were banned and then they claim it's 'such a hard punishment' for a 'simple' mistake.

I say bullshit to that, everybody should know that you don't just copy someone else's exact words and pass it off as your own.
There's not a single good reason why long-time members who've plagiarized in the past should be given a second chance. (in my opinion at least)

Mind you, I've made some stupid posts myself when I was still a newbie, but it never crossed my mind to just copy/paste stuff to increase my post count.
Most people don't plagiarize, because they're just decent persons, so I'd highly recommend not giving any free-passes to those who do plagiarize.

Heck, I'm actually also against the signature bans (instead of banning them) that Bitcointalk gives to high-profile members who've plagiarized, but offer value to the forum.



I do have to add that some people might actually 'plagiarize' by accident and those cases should be treated differently.
By that I mean, someone adding a quote from a website to their post, but forgetting to add the source.

Something like that is pretty easy to spot, if they've also added enough unique content to their post and placed the quote in actual bbcode quotes.
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