That's bad advice.  Telegram is full of imposters and scammers, and directing folks to attempt to contact a member there is asking for trouble.  Not to mention, DarkStar_'s telegram account has also been dormant for nearly a month.

The whole thing is scary as fuck, especially for those of us who are claustrophobic.  It must be nightmarish for those folks, if they are still alive.  Imagine 96 hours of impending doom...  I'm still hopeful they'll be found alive and well, but time is getting short at this point.

In regards to space exploration, if I was stuck in a small space capsule adrift in space I think that would be less scary than being stuck in a submarine at the bottom of the ocean.  I never said claustrophobia was a rational fear...

Good catch.  I feel like suing for 7 minutes of my life back. 

That was in response to another member, but to explain; by "hardware" I'm referring to the computer in question, and it's construction.  Old computers or those with low processing power and low amounts of RAM often won't meet the minimum requirements for newer Windows distributions.  Most Linux distros don't need a very powerful computer to run properly, so Linux can be great for keeping otherwise obsolete computers in working order.

I haven't used coinjoin wallets at all, I prefer to launder my bitcoin through p2p exchanges and Monero, for various reasons.  Not that I don't trust coinjoin, but it's worth noting that coinjoin coordinators are centralized services, and there are expenses that can be avoided by using my preferred methods.  I'm rarely in a hurry to break links to my bitcoin, which is good because my methods can take some time.  I don't mind hodling XMR, which is also good because patience is required.

Having said that, I would never use Wasabi after their Chain Analysis announcement from last year.  That leaves only Sparrow and Samourai wallets which use the Whirlpool coinjoin coordinator.  I've played around with Sparrow, and find it to be a very good piece of software.  It has a lot of great features, including some privacy features that are hard to find in other wallets.  Since I'm versed at using other privacy enhancement methods, and I self-host several services that work better than features Sparrow offers, Sparrow hasn't been able to win me over from Electrum as my main wallet software.  If it wasn't for all that I would be using Sparrow.

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It's not so much about the value of bitcoin that you're trying to send, it's due to the number of inputs that you're trying to send.  If you received a lot of transactions to one specific address you may not be able to send all the funds held in that address in one transaction.  The same would apply if you received a lot of inputs to many addresses.  You would have to use the "Coin Control" tab to select a few inputs at a time.  Try selecting no more than 100 inputs at at time, and if that doesn't work reduce the number of inputs you select on the coin control tab.

Alternately, you could install bitcoin core (with no pruning, i.e, you'll need about 550GB of free space on your hard drive,) and let it sync with the blockchain, then import the private key(s) of the address(es) with a ton of transactions.  Bitcoin core shouldn't have any trouble combining all the inputs into one transaction.

Haha!  Understatement of the year.  That's why he was hoping to find a sucker to give him $20 for it.

I agree that browser-based seed generators should be avoided if possible, but Ian Coleman's tool does allow you to enter your own entropy.  For a 24-word seed, a good way to generate your own entropy is to use Linux's built in random generator, urandom.

This code will generate a 256-bit random HEX code that can be entered into the Ian Coleman tool:

Looks like you've been a member of this forum for about 10% of your life.  Happy Birthday, you old fogie.

Lol, have you seem my record?  I'm not counting any unhatched chickens. 

Yes.  I have opinions and write them on the internet.  That's what I do.

My opinion is that this thread is misplaced, but I'm not losing any sleep over it.  I haven't reported the thread, and I don't plan to.  I've expressed my opinion, and now I'll crawl back under my trollbridge and wait for the next opportunity to express other unpopular opinions.

Sorry, I don't know what this statement means.  Is this in reference to me escrowing fund for one of Royse's projects?  If so that's kind of a tenuous connection (at best,) and deflecting from my comment about why this thread is Meta.  I'm not here to defend anyone, or argue for or against any one specific person's ban.  That would be a discussion I would have in the Reputation board, if I chose to.

Regardless, none of what you said changes the fact that this thread is full of comments that pertain to the reputation of one individual, and that makes it appear to be misplaced to me.   If you want to have a discussion about the rules themselves, how they are applied, and what exceptions exist then it would be best to keep that discussion separate from how the mods and admins have handled one specific situation.

It seems you have already figured out where I think this thread belongs.


The unofficial rules don't really specify what offenses qualify for a ban, so this is a subjective opinion at best.


Maybe naim027 has photos of theymos urinating on Russian hookers?  That would be embarrassing, but this thread can be seen as an embarrassment from another perspective:  At least 5 of the last 20 threads you've started are on the subject of Royse777 and/or his cohorts.  I think you may be spending too much time on the subject, and it's looking very much like you have a vendetta.

Are you trying to send a lot of inputs in one transaction?  If so, try using coin control to select no more than 100 inputs.  It'll be tedious, but that might be your issue.

If your hardware is limiting you from using Win10, then you're better off switching to a Linux distribution.  Linux Mint is a good gateway OS for Windows users to get their feet wet in the Linux pool.  It's basically Debian with the Cinnamon desktop environment and a bunch of tweaks that make the OS behave a lot like Windows.

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Hardware wallets are not that difficult to use, the learning curve is about 10 minutes.  Pick one that's open source and supports the coins you collect.


The danger was far more significant in the olden days of Windows, like XP and before.  Remember when you would insert a CD or DVD into your drive reader, and the OS would automatically start the application?  On Win10 or Win11 that sort of thing now requires user confirmation with a couple of clicks.  The risk is still there, but significantly reduced.


This thread might be better off in the "Wallet Software" sub-board since these safety measures really apply to any software wallet, not just Electrum.

Why is this thread still in the Meta board?

Yes.  Irrespective of using it with old versions of Electrum, unsupported OSs are risky for all kinds of reasons.  The web browser your using is likely not supported anymore, and you're likely using it to log into your bank account, right?  As long as you're careful you're probably safe, but the risk is still there.

Microsoft still allows you upgrade to win10 or win11 with your win7 key, although it is technically a violation of their terms of use.

Using a passphrase in addition to the seed is a great idea regardless of what I'm about to say, but I do take issue with the quoted part above.  There certainly may be incidents of sub-optimal programming in some wallets doing that (though I can't recall ever hearing of it,) but with proper use of a computer's ability to generate entropy (which Electrum does,) there is an infinitesimally small chance of that happening.  You have better of odds of winning the lottery every day for the rest of your life.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I prefer to install Electrum on my Linux machines using the python package tarball.  I recently installed Debian 12 Bookworm on one of my laptops, but was surprised to find an error when attempting to install Electrum.  More info on the error and resolution can be found in the issue I submitted on Github.

It appears that Debian isn't the only OS with changes that broke the python installation instructions found on Electrum's website.  Another, earlier issue was reported in regards to Ubuntu 23.

Below are the instructions on how to install the Python version of Electrum on newer Linux distros with kernel versions of 6.0 and above.  If you have previously used this method to install Electrum and you want to upgrade to a newer version, only steps 4 through 6 are required, and optionally, step 9 to clean up.  Make sure to substitute the file names for the desired package.

1. Perform an update.

2. Install the required dependencies:

3. Create the environment folder for Electrum:

4. From the user home directory (not important, but cleaner) download the required package and signature files:

5. Verify the package (more info here):

6. From the same directory where you downloaded the tarball you can now install Electrum with this command:

7. A symlink to the binary is needed for the app drawer launcher and to simplify CLI commands:

8. Create the app drawer launcher file, "electrum.desktop," and update it's link to the icon image location:

9. Clean up by removing unneeded files:

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And that's it.  You should find the Electrum icon in your app drawer or applications list, and it should start Electrum without any issues.  You should also be able to interact with Electrum using the CLI commands.

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**Note: If you have previously used this method to install Electrum and you want to upgrade to a newer version, only steps 4 through 6 are required, and optionally, step 9 to clean up.  Make sure to substitute the file names for the desired package.

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