You are right either way malalaman din nila yung totoo kung naniwala man sila kaagad sayo then good for them may mga ibang tao naman kaagad na nakaka-amoy ng scam dahil sa mga karanasan nila dun naman sa mgab taong hindi maniniwala sayo at sumubok pa din may araw din na mawawala yung pera nila kasi nabulag sila sa payout na nakikita nila, tama din kasi ang sinabi ng iba na kahit alam nila na scam sasali pa din sila kasi may mga naloloko din sila sa referral o komisyon ito yung mga tao na hindi mo makokonbinse kahit anong gawin mo kasi kung tutuusin part din sila ng scam. For me the first two kinds of people I mentioned is the ones who should be save kasi kung alam na nila mangyayari mababawasan at mababawasan yung mabibiktima nila sa mga investment scheme na ito.

For the time being wala ako mai-rerecommend sainyo na paper wallet because even others are still deemed to be unsafe. Yung bitaddress.org which is one of the reputable paper wallets out there also has their topic's OP be inactive here in the forum na talagang nakakabahala dahil na rin dun sa sitwasyon ng bitcoinpaperwallet. If you are looking for a offline storage I think yung best option mo now is mag Electrum ka nalang at ilagay mo ito sa isang laptop na hindi mo kinokonekta sa internet, ito kasi yung safest bet mo na matino yung wallet na magagawa mo.

Sa tingin ko lahat ng points ko sa topic na ito ay masasabi ko na ganun pa din yung opinyon ko. For people thinking that its is unfair o hindi makatarungan na pinapatawan sila ng tax dahil ito lang pamumuhay nila mali na kaagad ang kanilang pangangatwiran dahil wala naman naka-saad sa batas na ang online selling o pagiging reseller ay magiging exempted sa tax, kahit na sabihin mo pa na sole proprietor ka or self-employed yung kinikita mo dito is income which is taxable in our income tax. Hindi ka naman basta basta makakagawa ng business sa Pilipinas na pwede ka nalang mag-benta kaagad para kumita, meron talagang proseso na dapat pag-daanan upang maging legal yung business mo. For the concerns about the government expecting to receive lower taxes this year sa tingin ko alam na nila yung pag-bagsak ng ekonomiya kaya nakita na din nila yung mga ginagawa ng Pinoy para kumita which hindi naman nila kasalanan para sitahin.


Small business ka pa or big business basta negosyo mo ito required ka pa din maging rehistradong business sa BIR at DTI it's really not about the annual income you earn pero this is how the government keeps track on businesses kung nagbabayad ba sila ng tama. From what I know ang mga nagbebenta lang na exempted is yung mga gumagawa ng garage sales or nagbebenta ng 2nd hand items nila katulad ng used car or cellphone na personal items nila, pero kung ikaw yung tipong buy and sell ng mga 2nd hand item ito pa din ay required mag rehistro sa BIR.

Well you can always start in your BPO company in terms of introducing crypto as some kind of alternative learning experience or organizational activity for your employees, a lot of BPO companies offer that in order for their employees to grow sorta like how some in the industry offer online courses as well as six sigma not only for them to stay competitive but also make their employees benefit to be more qualified in a higher position. Because let's face it the current state the country is now we can't expect to have some kind of rapid expansion when it comes to crypto use, in fact I have created a topic about how Filipinos are more inclined in using cash even if they know other alternative on paying them. This just show that even Filipinos are still not prepared to even embraced digital payments in their day to day life.

I have not dived in with Lightning Network that far pero ang masasabi ko kasi dito kaya QR code palang meron sya is malaking chance na ang mas focus ng LN is yung merchant side ng Bitcoin transactions rather than P2P transactions. If you think about it LN just built a 2nd layers in Bitcoin's blockchain just to have scalability which means more mas malaki yung volume ng transactions with considerable lower fees dahil di sya direktang umaabala sa blockchain. I've seen comparison charts where VISA-card related transactions are considerably more kumpara sa Bitcoin transactions kaya itong LN is supposedly the answer at sa mga nababasa ko e-commerce and big businesses ay nakikita na possible nga ma-implement yung Bitcoin payments with the used of LN sa kanilang mga negosyo so kaya ang nakikita ko is more on the merchant side of things itong LN kaya siguro QR code ang nauna sa Phoenix Wallet. Pero ito lang ang opinyon ko at baka may ibang sagot na talagang makakasagot kung bakit QR code lang meron sila.

Just to remind everyon since this post was nercro-bumped ang mga paper wallet sa bitcoinpaperwallet.com ay compromised. Ever since nagbago yung owner ng website na ito nung 2018 may mga user ng nagsasabi na yung na-create nilang address is already used o di kaya pag-magsesend ka ng Bitcoin sa address na yun sa iba mapupunta yung BTC mo. There are also reports outside of the forum confirming that their paper wallet is not safe to use kaya kung gusto niyo masundan yung first step sa pag-gawa ng paper wallet I would recommend using other sources because bitcoinpaperwallet.com ay hindi safe na paraan para makagawa ng address.

Good job Bttzed03 I have tagged the OP of that thread since wala pang ibang DT member ang nakakita nito.

Here is the domain details ng website na ito


To add para sa mga members na hindi pa nakaka-alam ang mga investment vehicles sa Pilipinas including websites ay dapat registered sa SEC and since wala ako nakita na registered entity under the name of Biflex sa SEC registry this just show that this website is running illegally in the Philippines and most definitely this is a scam. Don't always look at the rates o yung mga nakikita niyong big payouts kasi ito ay peke lahat at kahit anong oras ay pwede mawala yung pera na linagay ninyo dito.


Mukhang nababasa ng poster na ito yung thread na ito kasi tinanggal na nila yung error na nakita mo. 

Yup from what I know Coins.ph sa kanilang Meralco Bill is strict lang sila when it comes to late or overdue payments which they don't handle pero yung mga advance payments is something that they accept. On a side note nagtataka ako bakit marami sainyo is gusto pa magbayad in advance sa Meralco bill nila? Siguro naman aware na kayo na mostly yung bill natin is dumoble at nakakapagtaka yung computation nila, I know a handful of people who contested their bill in Meralco about the wrong computation I have a friend na nagreklamo sa bill nila and from 15k it went down to 9k, aside sa wrong computation sa charges they also have forgotten to take into account the advance payment they had. May mga FB posts din akong nakita showing similar complaints so sa tingin ko this is not the right time to pay in advance but to double check if tama talaga yung charge ng Meralco sainyo.

There are no signs or news sa ating gobyerno that we are headed in that direction when it comes to being a cashless society at sa tingin ko hindi naman talaga nila ito priority unlike China were their own government is the one pushing for the digitization of their payment system ang tanging makikita lang natin nag-pupush sa Pilipinas sa mga digital payments is either yung mga banks natin or e-wallets like GCash and PayMaya pero when it comes to the government support wala kang makikita na tumutulong sila dito, they just let these companies do what they want and I think that's the right decision. Hayaan nalang natin yung mga commercial companies muna ang maghikayat sa kanilang mga customer sa mga digital payment options at wag muna dapat make-alam ang gobyerno sa hindi naman ikaka-buti sa Pilipinas ngayon that's why sinasabi ko na waiting game lang ito kasi we should set our expectations low about Philippine being a cashless society in the near future.

Kung hindi mo masyadong na-iitindihan yung translated version ng explanation ni fillippone I guess what you need to do is to look at the original articles na ginawa ni PlanB. Yung isa kong post dito ay may link dun sa updated article ni PlanB using Medium. Maganda naman explanation ni PlanB dun sa dalawa nyang articles and medyo noob-friendly ang kanyang approach dito kaya madali ko itong nakuha, aside dun makikita mo kung paano niya inanalyze yung price prediction nya using his own words try it baka ang original article ni PlanB will be easier for you to understand.


I won't go as far as saying that it is "fictional" but yung S2F model mismo has it's flaws and PlanB said it himself. The price prediction is based on the supply and demand and the calculations made for Bitcoin's S2F model pero yung greatest flaw na nakita ko sa model na ito is hindi kasama yung mga external factors that could easily influence the future price movement of Bitcoin, when I say "external factors" tinutukoy ko dito yung mga instances katulad ng laws and regulations, world events, as well as yung mga scandals na pwedeng maka-apekto sa demand yung mga factors kasi na ito can influence the model's prediction directly kaya wala talagang assurances na mangyayari yung prediction na ito.

The problem is kung mali yung introduksyon sa forum na ito siguradong magiging mali yung impression na tatatak sa mga sasali sa Bitcointalk na ang main purpose ng website na ito is para kumita. Hindi sila katulad ng mga tao na pumadpad lang sa forum na ito randomly na sila yung makakagawa ng idea kung para saan ang forum na ito kasi pag yung paraan ng pag-alam nila sa forum na ito is tungkol sa pagkita ng pera magiging iba na ang pananaw nila dito at mawawala na yung tamang landas nila. That's why I encourage our fellow Filipino members na if you will ever ask your friends and family to join Bitcointalk introduce this forum as a way to learn cryptocurrencies in general at wag na wag niyong i-introduce ito na paraan para lamang ikaw ay kumita.

Maganda yung gustong gawin ng serbisyong ito pero them without doing their own fact checking sa mga reports na pumapasok sa kanil this will just be another website na pwedeng abusuhin ng tao. Not until them having their own fraud assessment team o kung kahit sa anong paraan para makita kung totoo yung mga reports na nakukuha nila I wouldn't really say na reliable nga itong website na ito as a scam checking website. The time will come that this website will be filled by bad and misleading reports kung wala silang research na gagawin so I wouldn't advice anyone using this hanggat wala silang improvement sa kanilang sistema.

Sorry for replying in this old thread pero sa tingin ko importante itong sasabihin ko. Tungkol ito sa reply ni bob123 sa English post mo sa Beginners & Help section which he explained “Length beats complexity”. Maganda kasi yung argumento nya dito kasi mathematically speaking even if bob123 used personal information o kaya facts sa kanya para gumawa ng password yung possibilities for your password would be exponentially higher kumpara sa mga example na password na binigay mo. I was still intrigued about this idea dahil nga gagamit sya ng facts sakanyang buhay para gumawa ng isang sentence pero if we are talking about brute force attacks you want a password na madaming possibilities kumpara mas mababa na outcome. His point was solid but I still have my doubts about using facts about your personal life para sa isang password.

I was a bit skeptical on how this scam alert works kasi kung bibigyan natin sya ng kaparehas within sa forum para lamang syang trust system ng forum where you have trusted feedbacks as well as untrusted feedbacks, meaning reports might not be accurate at baka may halong hidden agenda sa mga reports na ito para ma mislead kayo sa katotohanan. The site itself put several disclaimers regarding their reports na sinasabi yung reports nito is "as is" which means yung website nila mismo ay walang ginagawang background checks but the reliability of the report depends on how many have reported the address.



Just think about it, if you have a e-commerce website tapos yung known BTC address mo ay rineport ng mga competitor mo your known BTC address can be linked to a "scam" sa kanilang mga criteria. I know this website might be useful pero yung way nila kung paano nila i-handle or i-verify yung scam na nangyari dapat nilang baguhin ito at hindi lamang naka depende sa dami ng mag-rereport sa address na ito because it can be used by wrongdoers as well.

The last update from that thread was almost more than a month ago, June 09 to be exact and yung thread ng Philippine representative nila was created at June 14. And dahil siguro hindi masyadong matunog yung Forsage.io within at outside the forum kaya na din siguro hindi napansin masyado yung mga topics related sa Forsage.io after the first members got tagged. Pero kung titignan mo yung mga accounts na connected sa ponzi scheme makikita mo na hindi na sila active sa forum which is a good thing, mabuti na din na nakita ko yung thread ng PH representative nila kaya nabigyan ko ng negative feedback ito kung baka sakali mag resurface ang Forsage.io sa Bitcointalk which meron malaking posibilidad.

Confirmed (and already tagged on my part)


Looks like they have representatives sa Pilipinas with them having a messenger group for "Team PH". Kung may mga promoter pa dito na tahimik lang or nag-aaligid tandaan niyo na kung sino yung connected sa biktima kayo kaagad ang unang matuturo, yung mga tinanggap niyong marketing position online from Forsage hindi niyo kilala yung mga tao sa ligod nito kaya pag nag-kahulihan na wala na kayong maituturong iba kasi isa lang kayong "Pawn" sa malaking mundo ng ponzi scheme nila. Mostly ganito ang mga online scams ang nangyayari minsan ang recruiter din ay isang biktima pero since ang nagreklamo is yung nasa baba nila sila ang maituturo. If you know for yourself na hindi rehistrado ang isang kumpanya dito it's better to back away even if the deal looks goods, aside sa malaking chance na mawala ang pera mo pwede ka din makatanggap ng mga kaso.

Kung yung tinutukoy mo is yung cardless cash-out method through Security Bank ATMs I think mas ok yung Instapay enabled Banks ng Coins.ph. I have a fair share of problems regarding my cash out using Security Bank may mga times na hindi ko natatanggap yung PIN ko or hindi tinatanggap ng ATM yung binigay na PIN sakin at yung pinakamalala ko is yung instance na after 2 days ko pa natanggap yung text message ko for my PIN (this happened in a weekday), if you are looking for instant or emergency cash I'm afraid cash outs through Security Bank's cardless withdrawal isn't that reliable, may mga times din kasi na offline yung method na ito. What I would recommend though is yung Instapay enabled banks ng Coins.ph, although required ka magkaroon ng bank account dun at may kaunting fee you will still receive your cash out in an instant at anytime of the day. Aside sa UnionBank meron din sila for EastWest Bank, PNB, Metrobank and many others.

Yeah aside sa modernization ng Pilipinas we also need to consider yung education ng lahat ng tao at hindi naman lahat or even karamihan sa populasyon ay technologically inclined to do such digital payments also even if they are "technologically inclined" kina naman sa first post ko na ang mga Filipino ay mas pinipili pa din ang cash payments even if they know other digital payments exists. Dito palang alam mo na yung tao mismo ng Pilipinas ay hindi pa masyado ganun ka-open sa digital payments. For the ones who aren't technologically inclined they will have a very steep learning curve para lang makasabay satin and I think this is one of the reasons na kaya cash pa din sila hanggang ngayon kasi parang  "if its not broke why fix it?" mentality pa din ang mga tao ngayon tungkol dito.

Ng sinabi ko ang salitang "well-educated" hindi ko tinutuko yung mga taong may pinag-aralan or may pinag-tapusan what I meant about this is yung mga taong handa talaga o may plano sa kanilan trades kasi ito yung mga tao na pwede kumita at makapag minimize ng talo. Of course literally anyone can enter any kind of asset market kahit wala kang pinag-aralan sa eskwelahan may mga ilang tao nga yumaman kahit hindi nakapagtapos sa highschool gamit ang stock market o crypto market ang difference lang dito is kahit hindi sila nakapag-tapos ay natuto naman sila kung paano mag-trade. Wala talaga yan sa estado ng buhay mo pero malaking bagay dito dapat alam mo ang ginagawa mo when it comes to trading.

And how will this be different compared to asking a relative to buy some products I like in Amazon and then shipping it to me? Kasi kung ako din bahala sa US shipping address at ikaw lang ang bibili ng product para sakin parang wala ka naman ginawa talaga para sakin? To be frank I don't see the point on why I have to pay something for this kasi hindi ko naman masasabi na serbisyo yung ganito simply buying something on my behalf pero ako din bahala sa shipping is wala din sense kasi parang nag-pabili nalang ako sa kamag-anak ko sa US. I posted this because when it comes to buying Amazon either ang problema ko is yung walang shipping directly sa Pilipinas or hindi sila tumatanggap ng payments na komfortable ako. Hindi ito comparable sa mga online shipping partner where they will be the ones providing the US shipping address at sila din ang mag-hahandle papunta sa Pilipinas.