is it possible to find out which odds provider a sportsbook uses?
I'll try to add this in the next couple of weeks. If anyone knows the odds providers of the different books, please post to help out.
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but I am not sure for Betfury.
why don't you not sure BetFury? even though BetFury is also one of the casinos that has been around for a long time and for me BetFury deserves a rating. it's just that BetFury currently has unresolved pros and cons. but BetFury is currently still running smoothly and also has a very large number of customers and many loyal gamblers at BetFury. so you don't need to be unsure about BetFury . BetFury will be added within a week along with some changes now that the Super Bowl has concluded. |
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What is a trustworthy casino for residents of the Netherlands?
Online gambling became illegal since about 2021, and is only legal at 'regulated' casinos that take 33% tax from your winnings above 450 euro.
I came across many sites, for instance stake.com. They allow VPN, but users from the Netherlands are not accepted, this means you need to enter a false identity. Is there any casino out there that is trustworthy for residents of the Netherlands? One that will not ask for your identity or block your account when you win a big amount?. I know there are casinos out there that requires no KYC, but will they still be trustworthy if you win a large amount over $10k?
Thanks in advance for any help.
The casinos i'm looking for are those that have Netent and Play n Go slots.
Here's a list of the top sportsbooks with casinos although I'm not sure which ones ban the Netherlands. Never play at a casino that doesn't accept your country.
"A" rated booksnitrobetting.eu A+ (2013 Nitrogensports) betcoin.ag A+ (2013) playbetr.com A- (2019) "B"rated booksmBet.io B (2017) Horse racing.. stake.com B- (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino. "C" rated booksBitsler.com C+ (2015) fortunejack.com C+ (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino. anonibet.com C (2011) sportsbet.io C (2016) cloudbet.com C (2013) Bitgame.com C- (2015) Loot.bet C- (2016) maverickgames.com C- (2020) Owl.games C- (2021) parlayplus.com C- (2019) Rollbit.com C- (2021) roobet.com C- (2019) Trustdice.win C- (2019) |
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Here are more crypto bookies that can be added to the NR list and I've linked their ANN threads as well. And Betonbit can also be removed from the D rated books as i've checked their site earlier and it seems like they've closed down for good.  Thanks for the additions ralle! Updated ratings within a week. Please post any payout delays of more than 48 hours. |
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Add Alienbets.com (2022) to NR.
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GL to everyone in the Super Bowl. Feel free to post about any Super Bowl contests that are missing.
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With the Super Bowl just less than a week away, i've noticed some of the bitcoin sportsbooks have started releasing their own Super Bowl promotion and giveaway.
That said here's a small list of promotions and giveaways that are currently available from some of the top bitcoin sportsbooks.
Great stuff ralle! Everyone, feel free to post Super Bowl contests and freebies. edit: I'm sure I'm missing more but here's one from Nitrobetting Nitrobetting Super Bowl 6 contests, 12 squares, 4 are free and 5 BTC for perfect picks. |
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Sportsbets, Duelbits, Stake - these are some of the casinos that won't ask you for a full KYC which involves submitting documents for the amount you mentioned of withdrawal. But take note that some of your activity might trigger why your account should be subject to KYC.
I can't assure you that you won't encounter any KYC-related stuff on the sites I have mentioned but one thing is for sure here, you can withdraw freely with those sites as long as of course, no strings attached*.
I'd actually just avoid giving recommendations for casinos that ask for KYC "IF NEEDED", they're basically casinos that require you to do KYC sooner or later, and as OP doesn't really want to no matter what, I'd say it's not the ones he's actually looking for. For the list, I think what @Oshosondy sent gives the best list, I don't particularly use casinos with no KYC so I have no recomms for OP (if freebitco.in counts then that's probably the only one really), but if you do find one you're comfortable with maybe share it here (just in case, you know, I start hating on KYC casinos I use right now). Best of luck! In fact the casinos mentioned above you are licensed casinos. so it's only natural that one day the casino asks to fill in KYC data and we have to obey to do it. because casinos that have a license usually already have a promise to have conditions to perform KYC on each customer. for me, actually KYC is not a difficult thing to do, the most important thing is that we know the reasons for asking for KYC such as large withdrawals. I just like you can't give a casino recommendation without asking for KYC which is really good, because so far I don't really like casinos that are not licensed or don't have a good reputation. So it's hard to give a recommendation. When it comes to legally operating casinos, I couldn't agree with you more that know-your-customer policies are crucial. The casino's data is safeguarded alongside the player's, so everyone wins. If the casino wants to avoid becoming complicit in any unlawful actions, it must get to know its clients, particularly those making significant withdrawals. I appreciate your emphasis on recommending only reputable, legally operating casinos. That demonstrates that you play responsibly and with caution. Obviously, not all casinos are created equal, and picking one that is reliable and safe is crucial. Furthermore, in my opinion, the Know Your Customer procedure is not difficult. Simply verifying your identification and giving some basic personal information is required. For their part, gamers can relax and focus on the games without worrying about their personal information being compromised. I would disagree with information being safe guarded. It's for sale. |
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Honestly you're better off completing the KYC, and opting for sites that offer KYC privileges, because more often than not sites that do not offer such features turn out to be scam sites or shady casinos that will drain your wallets. Take 1xbit for example. The site has a bad reputation here because of multiple things stemming from scamming their people and the first red flag? You guessed it. The site's lack of KYC features even when you deposit. So not to sound like I'm lecturing you and all but if you'll take my advice and not laze off your precious funds, you'd be keeping them for a long time, without getting hacked or scammed by some dodgy site.
1xbet does KYC and 1xbit will do KYC on some accounts. I feel you should try to find casinos without KYC or very little KYC. Your information is sold and it doesn't matter how reputable. It's a lot of money for low level employees and very valuable to them. |
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Cloudbet is doing kyc and its joke, they ask you to make selfie outside with street sign saying your address, in same time holding today's date newspape + write "Cloudbet *and today date*" and in same time holding ID card
I think next thing they ask is nudes from my wife
about Playbetr no idea how they are A rated bookmaker.. probably they pay someone on this thread good money, there are numerous complaints against them everywhere and on every platform their review numbers are so low.
duelbits and nitrobetting are the best so far from my own personal experience
1) After that blood sample is a must  2) Duelbits ask for KYC, selfies and other shit OP as I mention earlier Nitrobetting is your choice. I do like Nitrobetting and they are one of the few accepting players from the US. |
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When you say you're worried about finding a casino that doesn't need you to provide identification, I completely empathize. When a casino advertises itself as no-KYC but then requests papers for even the smallest withdrawals, it may be quite annoying. That's why you should always read the fine print before putting any money down.
In answer to your query, I have only heard glowing reports regarding Cloudbet. When it comes to crypto gambling, they come highly recommended, and their selection of sports bets is extensive. I've heard that they are one of the few casinos that strictly follows the no-KYC policy and doesn't ask for identification when making a withdrawal. However, before placing a deposit, it is prudent to review their terms and conditions.
And if one day you change your mind about KYC, you can choose Stake.com. It is one of the best casino imo
Cloudbet is in the middle of the road as far as KYC. They don't do the most of the casinos but they don't do the least. Definitely check the restricted country list since your money will be confiscated if caught playing there. |
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Is Betcoin trustable though? Many years ago I had a run-in with their support. They told me a policy they had and I pointed them to their own FAQ link where it contradicted that and said the opposite. They then deleted the FAQ and said they were upholding the policy since they "couldn't" find it there (but I had archived it online already because I thought they might). I lost trust in them that moment. When they first opened they did had a lot of problems with the site. Because of the problems, that got passed down to customer support and it was frustrating. They cleaned things up and are now one of the best casinos/sportsbooks. They have 3 sportsbooks that you can play at, all with different lines. You can play with many cryptos including USDT if you don't want to deal with price fluctuation and they pay fast. |
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I did not find Duelbits, 4cryptobet, Hunnyplay, BetFury, Wild.io and many more. Among all of them I think Duelbits are the one who really deserves a rating. They are doing really well. Even I saw their name in Football ground.
@BitcoinGirl and Agbe thanks for bringing those books to my attention. Duelbits and Betfury are a huge oversights on my part since they are popular. I'll look into the others too. I try to keep up with new books and appreciate your post. On page 1 there are "D" and "F" books along with exchanges, prediction markets, mutual betting and brokers. I tried to save some space with the post above. There are also 42 books that have gone out of business or are stiffing players. There we go, I was almost posting the following to answer another user LOL Duelbits is not new. They are here for long time even they are running their signature campaign for over two years if I am not so wrong. In my mind, BetFury is old too. OP does not have livecasino too. I see their signature everywhere.
@Peeps Place, may be you are thinking of a revision? Good thing. We can expect Duelbits and Betfury in the list soon? You may also think about Livecasino too, you missed it. I'll add them one week after the Super Bowl. After the Super Bowl is a good time to make sure that books are paying timely. This is a popular time for books to close shop. It's recommended to play at the top books at this time. Try the new ones later. |
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How did you rate these bookies? It's something out of your mind or you found it on any review/rating website. For me sportsbet.io and Stake.com are at the top. Then we have duelbits which you have not mentioned, fortunejack and many more. @Batgirl - I saw your post in my thread and answered. There are 36 books graded, 9 not rated, 6 exchanges listed, 3 prediction markets, 2 mutual betting and 2 brokers along with 42 books out of business or stiffed people. Thanks for the post in the other thread directing me to books not listed. The 1st page also lists criteria used. There are also grades on how heavy handed books are with KYC. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0 |
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I did not find Duelbits, 4cryptobet, Hunnyplay, BetFury, Wild.io and many more. Among all of them I think Duelbits are the one who really deserves a rating. They are doing really well. Even I saw their name in Football ground.
@BitcoinGirl and Agbe thanks for bringing those books to my attention. Duelbits and Betfury are a huge oversights on my part since they are popular. I'll look into the others too. I try to keep up with new books and appreciate your post. On page 1 there are "D" and "F" books along with exchanges, prediction markets, mutual betting and brokers. I tried to save some space with the post above. There are also 42 books that have gone out of business or are stiffing players. |
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The Super Bowl is a little more than 2 weeks away. It's best to have your crypto at the "A" and "B" rated books. Try the other casinos when it's not prime time to tun.
"A" rated booksnitrobetting.eu A+ (2013 Nitrogensports) betcoin.ag A+ (2013) playbetr.com A- (2019) "B"rated booksmBet.io B (2017) Horse racing.. stake.com B- (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino. We know you are on nitrogen's payroll, but these ratings are complete garbage. And its not just me who thinks this either: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436406.msg61639309 What the f is wrong with you for making such ratings. Placing many trusted sportsbook on Rating B and C category despite they are better on your rated A casino. If I’m not mistaken Nitrogensports and Mbet has an ongoing scam accusation here in the forum. I believe Stake, Cloudbet, Rollbit, Roobet and Sportsbet deserves to be on the rated A compared to the current listed sportsbook in there plus Duelbits for their long good history here in the forum. Care to explain how are those rating scores worked out? I've seen your thread but that's not really explained there neither. Is it just a subjective opinion based on feelings, or is there some more complex methodology applied? @Peeps, do you think it is time to update the classification of your listed bookies? Beparanf may have a point, pls check again if the rating is still true this year. Most rating's guides here and elsewhere have Nitrobetting rated high. I check them to make sure the ratings here aren't way off. Below will be rating guides listed here at BCT. Nitrobetting #1 and Betcoin #2 in this thread. Nitrogensports #1 , older thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1820529.0Betcoin #1 and Nitrobetting #2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158369.0 https://100bookies.com/cryptocurrency-sportsbooks-eng/Betcoin #1 and Nitrobetting #2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5419723.0 https://cryptogamingrevu.com/Betcoin #1 and Nitrogensports #2 older thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577102.0Nitrobetting #2 Bitedge poster here with a website. https://bitedge.com/crypto-sportsbook-reviews/#top-crypto-sportsbooksI'll add more as I come across guides at BCT. Most of the guides are close with a couple of outliers. Criteria used to rate a book.4. Anonymous - one of the reasons that bitcoin books are used is to stay anonymous. There may be times where it is necessary to question players but it should be a minimum. Don't be fooled by this. If you are a serious and a winning player you are going to get checked. Most people avoid KYC because 98% of all players are losers. I agree with you on KYC. On the first page, there is a KYC rating. Little KYC helps a books rating. KYC requirements comparitively 0 = never 5 = mandatory
"A" rated books1 nitrobetting.eu 1 betcoin.ag 1 playbetr.com "B"rated books1 mBet.io Horse racing.. 3 stake.com "C" rated books2 fortunejack.com3 anonibet.com 3 sportsbet.io 3 cloudbet.com 2 Bitsler.com 5 Btb88.com |
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The Super Bowl is a little more than 2 weeks away. It's best to have your crypto at the "A" and "B" rated books. Try the other casinos when it's not prime time to tun.
"A" rated booksnitrobetting.eu A+ (2013 Nitrogensports) betcoin.ag A+ (2013) playbetr.com A- (2019) "B"rated booksmBet.io B (2017) Horse racing.. stake.com B- (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino. We know you are on nitrogen's payroll, but these ratings are complete garbage. And its not just me who thinks this either: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436406.msg61639309 What the f is wrong with you for making such ratings. Placing many trusted sportsbook on Rating B and C category despite they are better on your rated A casino. If I’m not mistaken Nitrogensports and Mbet has an ongoing scam accusation here in the forum. I believe Stake, Cloudbet, Rollbit, Roobet and Sportsbet deserves to be on the rated A compared to the current listed sportsbook in there plus Duelbits for their long good history here in the forum. Care to explain how are those rating scores worked out? I've seen your thread but that's not really explained there neither. Is it just a subjective opinion based on feelings, or is there some more complex methodology applied? @Peeps, do you think it is time to update the classification of your listed bookies? Beparanf may have a point, pls check again if the rating is still true this year. Most rating's guides here and elsewhere have Nitrobetting rated high. I check them to make sure the ratings here aren't way off. Below will be rating guides listed here at BCT. Nitrobetting #1 and Betcoin #2 in this thread. Nitrogensports #1 , older thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1820529.0Betcoin #1 and Nitrobetting #2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158369.0 https://100bookies.com/cryptocurrency-sportsbooks-eng/Betcoin #1 and Nitrobetting #2 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5419723.0 https://cryptogamingrevu.com/Betcoin #1 and Nitrogensports #2 older thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577102.0Nitrobetting #2 Bitedge poster here with a website. https://bitedge.com/crypto-sportsbook-reviews/#top-crypto-sportsbooksI'll add more as I come across guides at BCT. Most of the guides are close with a couple of outliers. Criteria used to rate a book.1. Security - getting paid is by far most important. 2. Working with the forum. This is a player's thread and books are held responsible for their actions. Questions are asked of books concerning number of employees, time in business, experience, poster problems, etc. If a book is going to ignore a player's thread, they will be severely downgraded. Most books are very easy to work with. The following cannot be quantified as to importance since being highly detrimental in one category may supersede other criteria used. 3. Poster review - poster review is much more important at bitcointalk than other forums, but other forums are also read. A high review from a new book will weigh less than the review of a book that's been in existence 2+ years. 4. Anonymous - one of the reasons that bitcoin books are used is to stay anonymous. There may be times where it is necessary to question players but it should be a minimum. 5. Margins - If players are going to have a chance to beat a book the margins have to be tight enough to give us that chance. If the margins are larger than -110 (1.91) that's a big blow to a book's rating. 6. Payout speed - If the average is longer than one hour, a book will be downgraded. One hour is sufficient due to possible grading errors. A large book is dealing with a significant amount of money along with a huge player base. 7. Markets - The more betting options, the better. 8. Traffic - time in business along with amount of players that a book has gives us a large sample size. 9. Currencies used - It's easier on the player if we are allowed to deposit and withdraw from alts. Miscellaneous - Books accepting fiat currencies are omitted from the guide. Other forums are read to make sure the ratings here aren't significantly out of line with the average of other books. |
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The Super Bowl is a little more than 2 weeks away. It's best to have your crypto at the "A" and "B" rated books. Try the other casinos when it's not prime time to tun.
"A" rated booksnitrobetting.eu A+ (2013 Nitrogensports) betcoin.ag A+ (2013) playbetr.com A- (2019) "B"rated booksmBet.io B (2017) Horse racing.. stake.com B- (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino. |
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