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621  Other / Off-topic / Re: Dont chase your loss on: March 25, 2024, 01:29:34 PM
Though gamble is basically a game of luck, and whether you win or loose is dependent on you r lick that day, even changing of strategy might not work especially, when you have the wrong sense of reasoning I'll just keep making the wrong decisions because you are desperate in making a win. However we say we gamble for fun right? If you change this mentally to gamble to make a living you might end up gambling more just to hit a target, but that is not a bad one if you have the right sense of reasoning and not let your current situation make decisions for you.

Easier said than done, but you're right. People shouldn't look at gambling as a source of income, but more as a hobby or expense. If their goal is to earn money chances are that it will go wrong and, if that happens, staking more in order to recover from the loss is the typical desperate behavior that may lead to even more frustration.

On the contrary, if they looked at it as just a game, it would be more difficult for them to make unreasonable decisions, even when they lost.

Yes it is true that the things that lead to the best approach to gambling are easier said than done, but nevertheless it is the best way we can do to minimize the possibility of too significant risks and maybe I will not give up on suggesting the best things to gamblers out of concern for safety. Looking at gambling as a place to make money is a mindset that will be very harmful to themselves which as you said will only lead to a worse situation later on.

I think it is a fact that when someone comes with the intention and purpose of earning then usually they will justify all means just to pursue victory such as making decisions that are completely unreasonable and beyond their abilities which is where this mindset will continue to end their session with disappointment because obviously even if you win you still won't be able to ignore the greed aspect in yourself which in the end makes you lose all the winnings at the beginning and the losing situation is also not much different which when losing I am sure that you will not be able to accept the fact of defeat which in the end as you said that they will act to pursue something that has been lost, it's like you're chasing your own shadow which will never work. So of course this is the reason why it is more advisable to gamble with the aim of entertainment because with this then I am sure you will not put excessive expectations on winning.
622  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where is the fun when you lose your money? on: March 25, 2024, 01:08:55 PM
Yes it is as simple as that that there is absolutely no pleasure in losing something that we have especially like money, but what we have to understand is that this is gambling where you will either win or lose and all of that is always unknowable from the start because gambling is as you said which is full of uncertainties in terms of the results at the end of the session, so simply put if for example you don't want to lose money at all then obviously the only best decision is that you don't gamble at all.

The idea of gambling for entertainment purposes is more advisable when you want to engage in gambling because it is indeed a better approach than you come with the aim of earning while gambling is full of uncertainties that will not lead you to success to actually earn, everything will be less worrying if you come with the right mindset and approach, as you said above where you gamble by only using small bets so that losing is not a big problem for you, and if you or anyone gambles with the intention of earning (outside of entertainment) then obviously I doubt you would gamble with only a small budget, because your goal here is to "multiply" while on the other hand gambling is not for earning due to the fact of uncertainty, this is why gambling is better seen as a place of entertainment if you still want to get involved.

Whether there is pleasure in losing or not depends on the mindset of the gambler. If you gamble to win or become rich through gambling then you will never find pleasure in losing. Such a gambler will continue to chase his lose to recoup the losses. Since losing is part of gambling despite one’s best efforts or strategies you will continue to lose and if a gambler wants to avoid losing money, the most logical decision would be to refrain from engaging in gambling activities as you mentioned.

Gambling carries the inherent risk of losing the amount wagered. While some gamblers may find enjoyment in the thrill of taking risks and the possibility of winning big, others may not derive pleasure from the uncertainty and potential loss involved in gambling. It ultimately comes down to personal preferences and risk tolerance levels. For gamblers who prioritize financial security and stability, avoiding gambling altogether may be the most prudent choice to safeguard their assets.

I'm not sure if this is a good idea or not, but I'm sure it's a good idea and I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not, but I'm sure it's a good idea and I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not, but I'm sure it's a good idea and I'm sure it's a good idea and I'm sure it's a good idea, but on the other hand as I said above that I quite agree with you that all of this still depends on how an individual addresses gambling itself which when we have a goal to earn or to change the fate in life then obviously losing is a very disappointing result which most of these typical gamblers find it difficult to accept that fact And what they don't know is that yes as you said that actually losing in gambling is a natural thing but the inability to accept defeat due to the goal of earning instead makes them chase defeat to restore something that has been lost when in fact it is still no matter how good the strategy you have it is still in the end the possibility of defeat will still occur.

Yes after all gambling is always about risk-taking activities which means that not only the chances of winning but the possibility of losing will also always be attached and on the other hand it is clear in my opinion that gamblers who can enjoy gambling activities despite the possibility of losing are those who come with the intention and purpose of seeking entertainment when they are bored and if you are a gambler who comes to earn then obviously I am sure that the gambling activities you do will be full of pressure.
623  Other / Off-topic / Re: Who does gambling addiction affect the most? on: March 24, 2024, 05:45:40 PM
If you ask about who is most affected by the impact of gambling addiction then obviously the answer is the addicted person himself because after all they are the ones who cause a lot of things that endanger themselves even though in fact sometimes they do not realize that their various actions endanger themselves in various aspects, especially in terms of finances, and not only that because the impact of addiction can also make a person forget or ignore other important things in his life, such as those who are married where a husband who is addicted to gambling will definitely not hesitate to put aside his life needs which are more important than anything else in order to fulfill his gambling activities.

Prioritizing the allocation for gambling over the needs of life is a scenario to trigger the breakdown of family relationships because after all, the name of the need can never be tolerated which usually makes their spouses not strong with the economic situation that is getting worse due to the allocation of gambling made by their spouses too excessive until in the end they choose to separate or divorce which means that the second impact of gambling has a high probability of being felt by the closest people around us such as family members or maybe friends.
624  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you stake it all put of over confidence in your club on: March 24, 2024, 05:25:39 PM
In my opinion, OP's story is the definition of gambling. You are sure of your choice then place a bet.

In gambling, winning or losing is normal and is only limited to these 2 choices. If you win then it is luck, which is sometimes very difficult to repeat.

As gamblers, we should be wise in using betting money because if we lose, we might lose that money.

Yes every gambler will only end up with one of two possibilities at the end of the session that is between winning or losing, all of which can never be known unless you have completed the session by seeing the results. Gambling is always random in terms of determining who the winner is and this is the reason why gambling can never be predicted because after all it is a gambling activity that bets your money on increasing or losing.

Of course a rational mindset is the recommended action in gambling, because with this then obviously you will be able to really consider everything from various sides to be able to make a truly wise decision and this benefit can minimize the possibility of regret at the end of the session. As I said above, gambling is always random which means that you or anyone can never know the outcome, and this means that gambling should not be taken too seriously and also should not put any expectations because in many cases they will usually only end up with disappointment due to putting their hopes in a place that is always about uncertainty and this confirms that gambling is an activity for profit, so be careful before you regret it.
625  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling mistake repeated by the gamblers on: March 24, 2024, 05:02:11 PM
A mistake that most gamblers keep repeating is gambling again and again even after incurring losses in each passing session, whereas they should become moderate with their gambling activities and should keep reducing their budget and time they spend on gambling after each losing session.

The desire to have a win is huge in perhaps all gamblers. And someone who’s content would pack his bags and head home after either having had a big win or a loss. After winning a considerable amount, the temptation to continue playing in hopes of winning much more often creeps in. It would be wise if you could stop if you can, head home with the winnings already in the bag.
One is more likely while chasing losses or trying to win some more, to lose more money than to win some more. Having a budget for your gambling activities would greatly help. It wouldn’t hurt also for the individual to learn to be content. A content man is more likely to walk out with some winnings than to continue in the hunt for more.

Basically everyone wants to win because after all we all need money to continue living or to help make ends meet, but the difference is that there are gamblers who can draw the line or stop at the right time in the sense as you say that when they win they can move quickly to stop and when they lose they are also able to accept the fact of defeat, And the other part is that yes, those who cannot manage their gambling activities well at all in the sense that when they win they are unable to resist the temptation to finally apply greed and when they lose they are unable to accept the fact of defeat and instead continue the game with the intention and purpose of returning something that has been lost and obviously this is a typical gambler who will soon enter the addiction phase.

I don't think it's right to talk about "satisfaction" or making satisfaction the limit to stop and go home safely, because basically what is called satisfaction is very close to what is called desire, meaning that feelings of dissatisfaction can continue to grow which ultimately makes it difficult for them to stop because they feel unsatisfied. However, what is more appropriate is to have a plan for the limits, for example, when you have won any amount then you better stop and if you lose once then you also have to get out immediately.
626  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stop gambling if you don’t have free time to do it on: March 24, 2024, 04:38:41 PM
Not just your life but it can cause disaster to your job too because if you gamble and the outcome is bad while you’re at work, it will affect your mood and that’s interconnected with your ability to work properly. I’ve said it before, there is no need to gamble at work. Just do it when you get back home and you are even more relaxed. Because pressure at work can make you pick the wrong games.

The point is that the impact of gambling can affect everything in a person's life, whether in terms of work, health, relationships and most importantly finances, these are some aspects that have a high probability of being affected by gambling, especially when you have entered the addiction phase where you will find it very difficult to ignore the slightest time not to gamble, and as experienced by the OP where he even exchanged his sleep or rest time for gambling which could make him lose focus when working because he lost his fitness.

After all if you think using common sense then yes it is clear as you said that there is still quite a lot of time for you to gamble, such as for example in your time off work which as you said that it is the right time and also we can really enjoy gambling with a relaxed state that makes us more focused and this action can also make you achieve a good balance in terms of dividing your focus on the activities you have, the point is that we must be able to apply the best possible management of time, do things according to their portions.
627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Try to stick to your instincts as a gambler on: March 24, 2024, 03:49:39 PM
I think every gambler still uses their instincts to determine bets, or at least continue the game or stop the game. We don't know how accurate each gambler's instincts are, but instincts can still lead gamblers to bet accurately, or vice versa. Nobody knows the luck of a gambler, they just bet according to instinct. they can win or lose. Some gamblers make bets randomly based on knowledge alone. but if he was lucky, victory would be his.

Actually, we can't explain why most of the time a person's instincts turn out to be right, it's like mind over matter, that what's on your mind, that's actually possible because it's manifested by what we think, we claim what will happen because that's what's on our mind, that's why there are other people who prefer to think only positive things prior a session of gambling and not negative things because sometimes what comes to your mind first, that's really what will happen.

I think however we will never be able to explain the reason why instincts are sometimes right or meaning sometimes our instincts can lead us to victory, but I think it's natural because gambling is about luck which is the name of luck can never be known when it comes and when it goes so this is a strong reason why your instincts are sometimes right and when your instincts are right then actually it's not that you are great and can predict but it's nothing more than just you are lucky.

There's this idea of "sometimes" in that your gut can lead you to win which means your gut can be wrong or you can miss and that's normal because gambling is about "probability" which means you might lose or you might win, so I don't think we can use gut as an excuse for winning because when your gut is right which leads you to win it's actually a situation where you're just lucky and nothing more than that, so it's as simple as that. And also if for example a positive mindset can lead you to victory or can make you able to predict what will happen then I think logically there will be many gamblers who do it for the sake of victory but the fact is that they continue to complain about losing.
628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you won a bet with your last cash? on: March 24, 2024, 03:33:12 AM
I can't remember whether or not I've ever gotten a win using my last money, but what I do remember is that I don't think I've ever gambled using my last money because after all it's an action that I think will trouble myself when it turns out that I'm far from lucky which makes me have to end up losing and losing my last money.

I wouldn't think in that direction anyway, meaning that I would never think of using my last money to gamble because it's like you're hanging your fate on something uncertain because obviously the outcome of gambling is always about uncertainty which can sometimes be stressful when something they want always doesn't happen.

On the other hand I am quite suspicious of those who have done it and managed to get a win, what I suspect is that most likely one day they will do the same action that they think the results at the end of the session will be the same as before, even though all of that is always unknowable and there is also absolutely no guarantee that can make you win, and the point is that in my opinion if for example you only have a little money plus it is your last money then obviously you are better off using or allocating the money for something more important.
629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling until you go totally broke on: March 24, 2024, 02:07:00 AM
I am just wondering if anyone here have ever been in a similar situation before? That is, gambling until you are completely broke with nothing to fall back on?
No money in the bank, no cash in the hand, what did you do?

Or maybe gambled until you are one bet away from going broke (if you lose), do you go ahead and risk the money, or cancel the bet and  keep that money for something more important?

It all goes down to the emotions the psychology. It seems that his decision is clouded already and and so his reaction is not normal. And it just beg us to question how can gambling do this to anyone here amongst us?

And there are no definite answers to be honest. We say that we should control our emotions, but how many times, including myself, has spend life savings to gambling because we wanted to get back and chase that lose?

It's true that it all depends on the level of emotion that exists within, and maybe I would say that someone who has a personality that is easily provoked or sensitive when things don't go their way even if it's trivial then maybe I would say that they are the ones who will really spend all their money without leaving any for the benefit of life. On the other hand, in my opinion, one of the reasons why gambling can make someone not even hesitate to do things outside of common sense is because gambling has many things that look tantalizing to the eye that most people think that luck is near or "that's what I'm looking for and a little more I'm here", which in fact all of this is nothing more than a feeling but they are very confident in something that is actually still gray or cannot know about the outcome.

True, basically all the ideas that lead to precautions and limits are still uncertain, most of them always break the rules that they have made themselves, but I think it is normal because we are human beings who have an attraction to something that looks very tempting that sometimes we do it unconsciously, but I think risking all life savings with just one round is too crazy a decision.
630  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling can bring positivity and light into people's lives on: March 24, 2024, 01:26:49 AM
It's true that gambling has a positive side if you do it right and have fun, but you also have to be aware of the negative side. I also feel the positive side of socialization because I can interact with several people online and also some of the positive sides mentioned by the OP.
However, you need to realize that gambling has more negative impacts and also carries quite large risks, including the potential for addiction, financial and time losses, as well as negative social impacts and many other negative sides.

Yes, but only a few gamblers can really feel the positive side of gambling activities, or that means only a few of them are really able to make gambling a place to find entertainment and fun and most of the others usually make this gambling more a place to earn or they think that gambling can change their fate because of the opportunity to "multiply" the money they bring which is actually nothing more than a "chance" of winning and not certainty of winning which means they misunderstand what is meant by opportunities in gambling so that seriousness actually has a bad impact on them because gambling is not for earning.

With this then maybe we can conclude that more people are too careless than people who come with caution and thoroughness before making decisions, carelessness is because they only see gambling from one side and do not consider it from various sides about possible negative impacts. If we talk about the positive side then yes as you said that socialization or improving relationships with other people you can feel and also besides that you will really be able to get rid of boredom with a few rounds in gambling that can trigger adrenaline and can also entertain when we are in free time.
631  Other / Off-topic / Re: Dont chase your loss on: March 23, 2024, 10:33:31 PM

True, it needs a lot of willpower and self-control to be able to stand on what you have decided to do, especially when it's about gambling because the urge won't let you live with peace and it will keep tickling until you finally decide to break the barriers and go against your decision to gamble again after a short while. Some people wouldn't even be able to control the urge for a couple of days even after deciding they wouldn't gamble anymore.

The urge of a gambler gets stronger when you manage to win some money in between their gambling sessions, regardless of the fact that they have lost more than they have won, they decide to keep gambling because they see potential winnings in the future which almost every gambler sees but can't achieve.
I couldn't agree with you more that overcoming gambling addiction demands a great deal of effort and self-control. The desires and cravings can be intense and persistent, making it difficult for people to stick to their choice to stop gambling. As you stated, some people may struggle to resist the impulse for several days after tackling to quit. This is because addiction alters the brain's reward system, causing a strong desire to repeat the addictive behaviour despite the negative effects.

Yes, in addition to effort and self-control overcoming gambling addiction also requires patience and endurance of strong discipline because of course this process will run long enough (although it depends on the person), but in some cases it is true that the length of the process of overcoming gambling addiction is also one of the reasons why diseases like this are difficult to overcome. And also because changing habits is an action that does require significant sacrifices where you have to really try to get out of the habits you like.

But in my opinion gambling addiction can be difficult and can also be easy to overcome, and it depends on the person, or the point is that if for example they really have a strong determination and are determined to stop gambling based on awareness and rational consideration then I think getting out of the addiction zone will not be too difficult if basically your interest has decreased. Which is what I am experiencing now, I admit that previously I could be said to be a fairly addicted gambler where I never missed a day not gambling but in the end I was in the phase of "losing interest" in gambling because I was bored enough and I already knew the various scenarios that would happen when I gambled which usually more often led me to defeat such as failure in terms of cashing out due to difficulty holding greed in mind until finally now it all seems to flow by itself where I lose interest in gambling even though for example I am in a situation where some of my friends are gambling next to me, and now I really feel a real sense of calmness within myself after I managed to quit gambling.
632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where is the fun when you lose your money? on: March 23, 2024, 10:12:42 PM
So where's the fun when you lose your money?
Of course there is no fun in losing. Nobody likes to lose even there is no money attached. Gambling is a game of uncertainty and that moment of uncertainty is what excites me. Just before the spin ends, the feeling of not knowing what is going to happen is overwhelming. It’s a nice break from everything else that’s going on in one’s personal life. I don’t make large bets so I don’t get devastated by my losses.

Yes it is as simple as that that there is absolutely no pleasure in losing something that we have especially like money, but what we have to understand is that this is gambling where you will either win or lose and all of that is always unknowable from the start because gambling is as you said which is full of uncertainties in terms of the results at the end of the session, so simply put if for example you don't want to lose money at all then obviously the only best decision is that you don't gamble at all.

The idea of gambling for entertainment purposes is more advisable when you want to engage in gambling because it is indeed a better approach than you come with the aim of earning while gambling is full of uncertainties that will not lead you to success to actually earn, everything will be less worrying if you come with the right mindset and approach, as you said above where you gamble by only using small bets so that losing is not a big problem for you, and if you or anyone gambles with the intention of earning (outside of entertainment) then obviously I doubt you would gamble with only a small budget, because your goal here is to "multiply" while on the other hand gambling is not for earning due to the fact of uncertainty, this is why gambling is better seen as a place of entertainment if you still want to get involved.
633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction causes loss on: March 23, 2024, 09:52:26 PM
No way, do you expect an addict to quit fronting on his addictive behavior, he'll definitely lie and bottle it up. The healing work is on others to help the addict, as he, indeed needs it. Don't mind his strange action, it looks like he doesn't want to help hands. Neglecting them won't be the right choice, working on ways to help change the addict is better than watching him misbehave. While they listen to themselves alone, sooner they'll want to talk to somebody. Deep down, they'll try to save themselves from the attitude, since they personally got into addiction, their self-consciousness will make them believe it's possible to come out with nobody's help. I think that's the main purpose behind why they avoid helpers.

Due to their psychology being affected, they wouldn't make it out alone. That's why sometimes a gambler will decide to open up and reach out for help. Which remains the best time to help an addict. When he's in need of it because he wants it and is tired of the lifestyle. In your context is fine to give them a space. But, to some extent, it's risky, as their attitude can get worse when left unattended. Staying in touch with the gambler helps revive his brain towards changing. Addiction isn't interesting for anyone, seeing his acquittances talk to him, will make him think of being like his unaddicted friends. Sooner, he'd confide with them and seek for help. When neglected he may not try talking to anyone. Thereby stressing his brain, on saving himself.
I am not sure what are you talking about. I've said what I have to say and there's no suggestion needed to be given to his friend when that guy don't even listen to his friend.

I didn't even say that I am expecting that he'll quit and that's why I am quite confused on what you're saying. But I agree that he'll try to save himself with what he's up with.

Sometimes you just have to be harsh and try to ignore that have ignored your thoughts that might help them.

A gambler who has entered the addiction phase is usually quite stubborn, they always claim to others that what they do is "normal and there is no harm", this is the confession of addicted gamblers who do not feel that they are addicted to gambling at all, and this is the reason why gambling addiction is difficult to overcome because this kind of disease is in the brain and mind of a person who has significant ambitions and preferences for gambling activities so that no matter how much you tell them by suggesting anything that leads to change for the better, they will usually ignore it.

Sometimes this situation can also become a problem between you and your friends, and maybe they will think that you are one of those people who interfere too much with other people's business. And I think it is a fact that an addicted person will only be able to stop when they have really felt the downturn that can traumatize them due to excessive gambling involvement, so if for example they do not appreciate your good intentions trying to help them then let it go because in the end time will answer with regret.
634  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich or poor gambler, who should risk more? on: March 23, 2024, 09:32:03 PM

Good point, we'll leave aside the rich or poor bit and it's true that it all still depends on how they approach gambling, if it's basically as you say that they have a strong ambition and enthusiasm for gambling along with some addictive mindset then it doesn't matter if they're poor they're still going to treat gambling with an aggressive approach, and the point is rich or poor if you have the wrong approach to gambling then obviously the rich are going to be poor and the poor might sacrifice their lives just for one spin based on luck.

One of the reasons why losses are more common than wins is because casinos apply a larger percentage of losses than wins, and I think it's a natural thing because after all this is a business for casinos which as we often hear that overall wins are actually only for the casino itself in the long run, and gamblers only get occasional wins that come by "chance" and also those that depend on luck, this is the reason why you can lose more if you basically put seriousness because all wins are nothing more than "possibilities".

Both responsible and irresponsible gamblers consist of high and low rollers. No cheap gambler, gamers can't be tagged poor, it's better called low rollers, as we can't determine for sure who's poor, indeed. A rich player can decide to be a low roller and a poor high roller. That is gambling above his income. Hence, the attitudes of these sets of people must differ, gamblers who are irresponsible have the same behavior regardless of their financial status, same as the irresponsible players. We all know what happens when one chooses to be irresponsible in gambling. If he's rich, he could end up poor as you said. Risk in this context means who gambles with a huge amount of money. A poor person can't afford to wager a huge amount, but what makes him a high roller, can be a low rolling for a rich player.

So, the risk for a person who doesn't possess lots of money could be going the extra mile by borrowing, illegal businesses, to raise money for gambling. However, trying to match this context of reason can be difficult in terms of behavior and type of gambler. Looking at the perspective of a rich player who chasing losses, is he actually in need of the money or addicted to the behavior? He's rich and may not be seriously on the lookout for more, to the extent of chasing losses. He could wager a huge amount and wait for another time to gamble. Unless he wants to go broke, then chasing losses while wagering huge amounts will take him there. Gambling is a risk for everyone, and the amount we wager doesn't define whether we are rich or poor in real life.

Well actually we don't have to bring someone's background in problem gambling because after all it all depends on how the approach they have on gambling which is simply that if for example they have the wrong approach and that is not recommended then obviously the impact will be very bad, and maybe we can only see them from their responsibility or I mean whether they are responsible or not and how they treat their gambling activities, this is outside of being poor or rich and more like whether they put something that they can be responsible for or not.

Rich or poor at the end of the day it's the same and I think the scenario of some of the actions that they would take would not be much different if they were the irresponsible gamblers and in terms of the impact it would be the same and maybe the only difference would be the timing of who would be worse off sooner. However, risk is never indiscriminate, or in other words, the possibility of risk in gambling will never see your background, rich or poor still have the same possibility but maybe with a different amount of loss.
635  Economy / Economics / Re: Business/Entrepreneurship. on: March 23, 2024, 08:48:04 PM
Actually, I prefer to choose a small risk, and choose to start a small business while trying to expand the business. However, I will take the risk if I see that the opportunity is big enough to generate additional profits, that's why I still make cryptocurrency one of my focuses to date. Apart from that, I still try to run a business and develop it. However, the risks I take from other opportunities I see, I will make sure that they will not have an effect on my life or the business I run.

That's not a bad thing, because everyone's thoughts are different. If perhaps they have parents who own many businesses, then maybe they don't want the hassle of starting their business from scratch, they can ask for a business that is already run by their parents. and others like you who prefer to start a small business while developing the business, and I think you are the type of person who is a pioneer and I don't think that's bad. There are people who say "we are pioneers, not heirs." I think this is said by people who run businesses gradually and that sentence may be an encouragement in itself.

We must have the courage to move forward to be successful, including the actions we take on the business we run. sometimes we have to take risks because there is no other way, in my opinion this is only natural, because with business or business we have to be able to do our best, just like taking risks, before taking action we have to be able to do it. consider it first, even though sometimes we have to take risky actions, that doesn't mean we have to do it without considering it, of course, even so, we have to be able to consider everything well to avoid losses.
636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Know when to stop on: March 23, 2024, 08:30:27 PM
If the question is which more people gamble without applying limits and controls with people who have limits and are able to control their gambling activities then maybe I will agree with the opinion of everyone here that most gamblers are involved without being able to control their gambling activities but they are the ones who are controlled by gambling in the record of treating gambling in a way that is not recommended. On the other hand I am not saying that there are no gamblers who are able to control their gambling but it is probably very rare for people to be able to do that because most of them are too focused on the chances of winning that they even go to the extent of justifying all means to pursue something that basically does not have any certainty and guarantee.

Like what you said about some people going to the casino where they come only for a few times and not to spend all the money they have, and this is the approach to healthy gambling where there is no element of excess. The point is that if the gambler is able to control the gambling activity properly and knows when to paddle and when to stop then it is those who are able to control their gambling properly or can also be called responsible gamblers. But on the other hand yes even if they are responsible it will not be able to completely rule out them from bad possibilities such as addiction over time, we don't know.
Gambling is the perfect test to establish your worth if done appropriately. Now I've seen weak ones fall. They think putting everything at the table and praying brings luck. A terrible calamity. The real winners - worth talking about - understand strategy and controlled risk.

Gambling is a control issue. You decide when to bet and when to quit. Amateurs who cant manage that will fail. Winners are different. Knowing yourself, your boundaries, and playing long-term is key. Like the best negotiators, sealing huge agreements takes skill, not luck.

The addiction factor exists. No sugarcoating - its risky. Can you manage the pressure and enormous stakes without losing your mind? That distinguishes winners from losers. Responsible gambling, sensible choices, and quitting while ahead are key. The game is hard, but thats the fun - proving you're in charge.

Houses usually have an edge. Simply put, it is. However, the smartest players use knowledge and discipline to reduce luck. Instead of being greedy, they research the odds. They deserve to win since they worked. You can respect and build on that win. Remember, winning is about doing so on your terms and with dignity.

Yes exactly, gambling is a matter of control and not always about winning, it's like a test of training yourself on how disciplined you are in terms of managing and controlling all actions on gambling activities that you do, and what should be in your mind is to believe that victory will always be there and you will be able to get it with a note "if you are lucky" and in addition to that what really should be more concerned is "managing risk", victory is "possible" but defeat is "certain".

Most gamblers are so focused on the chance of "doubling up" that they overlook the possibility of losing when in fact it is the possibility of losing that will happen more often because gambling is not a place to earn, and because they are too focused on the chances of winning that they only think of various ways to be able to continue "rowing" without thinking about how to "pull over" at the right time, and if you are too excessive in terms of chasing something that is not always "provided" I think it is certain that you will more often than not end everything with regret.

Managing the significant pressures of excessive gambling without losing your head or thinking properly is rare, and in fact most gamblers push the situation even further with uncontrollable emotions or mistakes, and it's the addiction phase that makes it difficult to keep things under control.

Yes the house always has the upper hand and the advantage is actually on their side, and this is the reason why losses are more common than wins, casinos hide behind "winning opportunities" that most gamblers flock to try to take advantage of, but however it is a big mistake that the actual seriousness and hope applied to something that has no certainty will only end up with more regret. The disciplined and smart ones are the real winners, and managing to double the money you're carrying doesn't always mean victory, but if you look at it from the other side then you can also see that drawing the line as quickly as possible without "losing" anything can also mean victory because you were able to get out of a potentially dangerous situation.
637  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: March 23, 2024, 08:06:49 PM
In the event that you've got a lot of time on your hands, you're going to want to make sure that you've got a good understanding of how gambling works and how winning works, they only know and only remember that gambling can produce winnings or can multiply the money they bring but they don't know how they win, and indeed victory is always unpredictable, so we say that victory always depends on how lucky you are when running the session, And that means that those who find it difficult to put aside the greed in themselves when they manage to get the victory is because they do not have the right understanding of what gambling really is, they like to ignore the aspect of risk or the possibility of defeat which is clearly - obviously can never be avoided in gambling.

So I would simply say that it's not a win if you basically haven't been able to decide to cash out as soon as possible, because basically even if you have managed to get a win but it's not the end of the session, because obviously there will be greed that will haunt your mind with the lure of getting a bigger amount which is basically nothing more than a temptation that has no certainty whatsoever, and I would say to you that you can never get a real win if you can't put aside the greed in your mind, and my suggestion is that you should emphasize to yourself that the possibility of losing will always be involved in gambling, meaning that you should have a high concern for the money you have won, or you should think that if you continue with greed then there is a possibility that all the money you have won will be lost again, so don't just think about the chances of winning but the possibility of risk must also be considered and considered.
There's no magic money machine in gambling. We've all seen those guys with brilliant eyes thinking they've solved it. After a lucky streak, they feel like gods until reality hits. What's luck, anyway? A cosmic blip, a smile. Winning is fantastic, but a fluke doesn't mean you own the game. Considering yourself bulletproof because one missed you

The real game is about what you play with, not the score. Your willpower, sanity. They say it's luck, but what about knowing when to quit? The true skill nobody teaches is that. Man, greed always whispers in your ear, promising another big score. The real victory is leaving the table when you're up, which few have the guts to do

You believe you're winning? Do you still play or did you cash out? That reflects your character. Gambling should be fun and exciting, not a method to wreck your life for something you'll never catch. Maintain control and awareness. Maybe you win at life, not just at the tabl

Yes and sometimes even people who have a healthy mindset can fall into this greed that makes them lose back all the winnings they managed to get, this is because humans have a nature of enthusiasm that can sometimes be at the highest level in themselves which in the end makes them too excessive in terms of responding to the results of their winnings which in the end the awareness of the possibility of risk is a little aside and in the end they apply greed, I think this is not uncommon even if you are a responsible gambler, all because of the things that look more tempting that actually more often trap you.

On the other hand, I've heard many people say that it's nothing more than "luck", but they only read about it and don't really understand what luck is and how it works, which means that it's always about "chance" that can never be repeated. When you don't understand how luck works then you will continue to feel that you are "still in a lucky situation" especially when it comes to winning which I think is what triggers greed, and another thing yes I agree with you that the ability to stop at the right time is not taught at school or anywhere else, it is purely about how good you are at thinking and managing things, and I will repeat what I said earlier that the real victory is as you said above that when you are able to draw the line quickly before it all ends in regret.

Sometimes I am quite bored with some friends who are gambling in one type of online gambling such as slot machines where my friend who is playing shows that he managed to get a big win like x1000 in one of the games, he is very enthusiastic in responding to it but I am quite bored to respond to it because he has a bad habit that instead of cashing out as soon as possible but instead continues the session by increasing the amount of the bet, and when he ends up losing I usually smile while saying "silly". And yes the concept of gambling for entertainment is confirmed when you are able to take every opportunity such as cashing out when you are really lucky.
638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever done something crazy to bet? on: March 23, 2024, 07:46:59 PM
Betting has been one of the craziest things that have made me too go backward in school when I was in high school sometimes my parents gave me money to pay for some stuff in school and I would quickly take out 50% of it in betting I am my friends have really done something bad and I keep on losing Well it’s a really bad memory because my parents keep on hitting me and having issues with me, but I do enjoy myself at that age I will never advise anyone to go into that kind of habits because I know right now children are still doing crazy things in school .

It is normal for a child to go through this but growing up with habit is not something that has to be sustained, though as a child is not easy to control some of this habits but with time you can choose through good and bad, I was also a victim of some shit then but it wasn't easy for me though I scale through, some of us our childhood memory in real sense is just a trash, but what I want is to know is that, as a child there limits to what you can control and thats why you should blame blame yourself much because at this period you can't make decision for yourself, it is difficult to chose between good and bad at that stage, to me I don't see anything that happen then as anything that previously happened as anything, though it is just a memory that we cant leave without.

Yes, I quite agree with your opinion here that it is a mistake that is naturally made by children who are still at the stage of education or high school which of course is a period of adolescence that has not entered the stage of adolescence or what we commonly refer to as underage. It is a natural age for a child to do many things even though it sometimes looks absurd, but the name of small children usually has a short mindset and is easily influenced by the things around it and also on the other hand they have a high level of curiosity.

One of the reasons why it is said to be "reasonable" is as you said that a child who is still underage they are not able to distinguish between good and bad, which means that it is very easy for them to be carried away by positive or negative things because there is no consideration whatsoever before making a decision. And honestly for myself I have never done crazy things related to gambling or doing crazy things that smelled of gambling when I was still in my teens because at that time I had never heard of gambling and what gambling looked like, and as far as I remember, I only did general crazy things like skipping school, fighting teachers or running away from home, which I think seems to be a common thing that is done by a teenager who is still quite unstable.
639  Economy / Economics / Re: Everything is over priced but people keep spending on: March 23, 2024, 06:44:43 PM
some people think lower class people can just stop buying food if the food price is high thats not how it works, you can't just don't buy a food because the price is high, its definitely a matter of survival, also, its a task better leave to the government to solve after all they are the ones that can solve this problem.
to be frankly speaking, we can also try to be self sustaining farming the food on our own there are plenty of technology available that could make that happen just by simply doing some simple farming it can spare us from overspending for food but then again it also requires additional effort that not all people can expend, therefore food price can only be controlled by the authority themselves.
if a country with agriculture sector is being motivated with advanced technology to boost up the yield i'm sure they can face the food price crisis easily.

In my opinion, even though food prices are rising, what we have to do is adapt and follow it, because the reality is that we live, of course we need food intake and to get that we have to balance it or follow the flow, it's also impossible if we do things that go against the grain, what we have to do is we You have to be able to balance it by having more income than usual, one way or another, but I'm sure everyone has their own thoughts on how to earn money and buy what they need to survive. and I think the government usually won't pay attention to what happens to society, because usually they only think about themselves.

It can be tried, maybe we can do this, but before that we also have to think that we have to be able to organize everything well and also prepare other things such as space, fertilizer and capital. but I'm sure not everyone can do it, maybe only a few people can do this, because there are people who don't want the hassle so they just buy it even though the price is high.
640  Economy / Economics / Re: Saving don't make wealth on: March 23, 2024, 06:25:49 PM
Saving is definitely important as it provides a safety net for unforeseen circumstances, but it is true that investing is what truly builds wealth. Investing allows your money to grow and work for you, providing you with the opportunity to reach your financial goals and live the life you desire.

It's important to diversify your investments and not solely rely on holding onto one asset such as bitcoin. Explore different investment opportunities that align with your goals and risk tolerance to maximize your returns and build long-term wealth.

Ultimately, the key is to educate yourself on financial literacy and make informed decisions that will set you up for financial success in the long run. By understanding the difference between saving and investing, you can take control of your financial future and achieve your desired level of richness and wealth.

Yes, that's right, because saving will of course help us overcome unexpected things such as medical costs or accidents. However, not everyone can save because of course everyone's finances are different, there are those whose finances are unstable so they still don't have enough to meet their needs or are always in short supply so they don't have any extra money to save. Even though everyone wants financial freedom, not everyone can achieve it, there are people who don't want to move and stay in a phase that makes them comfortable, as long as they have enough for everyday life, that's not a problem, but if we really want to achieve financial freedom then we have to move to move forward in order to achieve it.

and also with investment, it is true that investment can build wealth, but even so, I don't think everyone can do it because to make an investment of course we have to have stable finances first because we don't want to let the investment we make be disturbed, therefore before making Our investment must be able to have stable finances too, because in my opinion a profitable investment is a long-term investment. Many people fail to do so because they are impatient with the long wait and hold. Apart from finances, we also have to pay attention to ourselves, whether we are really ready to make an investment, because it also requires good knowledge to make an investment, it is impossible to make an investment without knowledge regarding aspects of investment.
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