can you post screenshot showing the chips temp?
I dont know how you monitor the temp of the chips since its not available on Minepeon screen.
Thanks
Think last night's firmware broke SSH (for me anyway) so will get you a pic once its fixed. Nevermind I was just being silly. New firmware is even better.  . Anything less than 113 shows 77 AFAIK. |
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Dogie,
does the PSU has its own air channel?
Thanks
Not linearly, but it works with the existing air channels. The PSU is way overcooled though, the air exhausted is never very warm.  |
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Quick question (if you will)...Are you getting PAID for this review...?
Jumping in: None of the reviewers are getting paid for the review. All of them can keep the miner for themselves Sell miner = payed but admittedly the producer of the miner has no leverage so the reviews can be a more honest. That's the important thing - I'm free to do what I want. I'm free to say its noisier currently on turbo than a dairy cow. My results don't require validation and I get to work with the people developing the hardware and software to improve it for everyone else. |
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I'm having a problem where I'm only getting about 17ghz. I'm using getwork on Bitminter without a proxy and a cx500 for one cube.
The last row of chips don't show they're bad but I'm getting just about 0 mhz on them. Any solutions? It doesn't seem to be a power problem......i have 11.91 volts on the 12v rail. When I set the cube to high, nothing changes. I do initially run at 25 gh/s but it quickly drops down to this 17 gh/s
IP 192.168.1.201
Mask 255.255.255.0
Gateway 0.0.0.0
WEB Port 8000
Primary DNS 192.168.1.1
Secondary DNS 8.8.8.8
Pool ports 8332,8332
Pool addresses mint.bitminter.com,mint.bitminter.com
Miners user:pass Lucky7Chess_Cube:x,Lucky7Chess_Cube:x
Thanks in advance!!
Open it up and see if there is anything obvious wrong. I doubt the OOOO is more complicated than a comms pin. |
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Look at the third line, looks like you have some form of firewall blocking the proxy, or the ports arent open.
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Thx Dogie for very informative review.
How much you can OC this device ?
Its generate different amount HW's errors depend of speed settings ?
Can you post some screenshot with that data ?
Higher clock modes tend to taper out at 1.5 with current firmware, which looks more like its capped by the power supply rather than chips or temps (as giving it more voltage between turbo and normal did pretty much nothing). In quiet mode (~1.35) I'm seeing 0.7%. On the higher clock modes it was slightly higher but not appreciable.  Remember the software isn't ready so the %s mean nothing - you'll have to calculate it manually. |
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K, so these machines don't have any type of digital display correct? and the bottom gets hot?
hmmmm, I wonder if a unit could be installed upside down then to permit airflow over the hot side?
Do you think that could be possible to assist with heat removal?
No digital display, bottom gets hot yes (that side directly touches the lower heatsink). It wouldn't make any appreciable difference to convection (we're talking low double digits if that), while it would slightly reduce the cooling performance of the heatsinks internally. Either way though its such a small change. |
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Is AMT also staying at a D+? Might want to check out the official thread.
Are you suggesting they should be higher or lower? They're STILL yet to deliver a single thing. |
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Ports on the config, ports are meant to be of the mining proxy (8332). Also double up your user:pass to user:pass,user:pass [an error message about the pool overwrote it].
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Yes I had previously done that calculation as well. The only thing I can think of is if you are (or maybe your employer is) already paying for a rack that is underutilized power-wise but has a little space left you can add a few of the miners. I couldn't give a rats ass about nanometers or "sexy" miners (seriously you guys need to get out more). All I care about is price, delivery, reliability, hash rate, and power usage.
Obviously, I don't have to agree with you 100% (except for the part that I should get out more).. but you're right on the money with that fact that the ASIC doesn't need to look "pretty". To get the job done is the right attitude and it's not like we'd look like poster boys ourselves either. Furthermore, it left me thinking about the 1.25U competitor.. If they consume between 1.2 - 1.35kW power, why bother with such a small factor (and risk with not being able to dissipate the heat effectively, hence more noise for fans spinning at max)? Yes, it is the coolest looking kid on the blockchain, but as most Data Centers can normally only facilitate up to between 8 to 12 kW of power per rack (including the equivalent in cooling), where lies the benefit in 1.25U when you can only fit 10 of those into a 42U rack maximum, leaving 70% of the rack unpopulated from a density point of view? Data Centers that could facilitate more power are few and far between. In this sense, BITMAIN seems to be spot on with the sizing - but it does come down to the price and how well they can position themselves on the market. No doubt more competition is coming and the big names of the past are looking to regain their position. What sort of servers are used that have higher densities of power than the usual rack? (fitting with the scenario you suggested above). |
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Hi,
Anyone know where i can get spare blade modules for an erupter cube? I have 1 faulty one that if inserted pulls all the others down.
Cheers
You'll have to talk to your distributor, they may have a cannibalised cube they can take a blade from rather than having to send back the entire unit. |
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Curious, does anyone know what amperage the terminal connector block on each S1 blade is rated for?
The screw terminal? Newer units don't have them. I just received a bunch Tuesday that all had the screw terminal + PCIe 6 pin molex...so yes they are still using the screw terminals. Unless perhaps that change was made this week  My "Chinese New Year" and later units have both. Maybe they ran out of connectors for awhile. Wouldn't surprise me.
No no that's just me not knowing what the most recent units have. I had a very early model and someone mentioned the new ones had PCI-Es so assumed the screw terminals had been removed. |
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Thanks for the review Dogie - much appreciated.
Can you estimate space between units when mounted in a rack for the possibility of wrapping the case in sound-absorbing material?
Do you think that there is enough space to attach a water-cooling mod to the system?
I wonder if a sound-dampening vent / tunnel could be attached to the back of the PSU to reduce some of the worst sound.
Cheers.
If its a 1.25 U server, then there should be 0.5U between two on one side, and 0U on the other. Ie 0.5U above and 0U below. This does degrade cooling performance as the bottom side is essentially a huge heatsink, and a LOT of heat is removable from there with extra airflow. That surface also gets exceedingly hot when in quiet mode so I wouldn't risk putting a material in there. In quiet, the only noise is the PSU fan (40mm) and the subsequent vibration it generates. In normal, the fans are loud but you can't sound dampen them. Your waterblock would have to be around 17mm thick at max, and may be cost prohibitive due to the unusually large area of the chips (2x 475 x 440mm). I'm not sure you'd want to risk cooling the PSU internally, or if its even possible. If we pretend that the PSU can't be software controlled (which it can over I2C pins), your best chance at modding it would be an extension cable from the control board out the back of the case, to a custom PCB with 24 pin ATX, 8 pin ATX, 6xPCIE 8 pins etc so it can be powered by a 'silent' ATX psu. Would defeat the purpose of 1.25U though. |
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Great review, thanks Dogie.
Quick question (not sure if it has been mentioned elsewhere): When you say it's loud, how loud are we talking? I've got 2 AntMiner S1s, and at 1 meter it measures at ~61-62dB (using Android's 'Sound Meter' application, which seems fairly reliable). Room temp is about 20C or so right now.
In quiet mode WITHOUT PSU fan control its 69-70 at 1m. All the noise though is the PSU, its rediculously overcooling itself as its designed to run @ 100% load up to 50C, and its in 22C. Just that temperature difference means its overcooling by 83% so once the coding is done then noise levels will come right down to ~Antminer levels (or less). The normal and high levels with today's firmware but PSU control would be roughly that of an Avalon gen1. As of this second they're LOUD 2. All in good time, the team is busily coding away new things. |
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If I had free miner
I will make better review
Not if you received it 9 hours ago and had 6 hours of testing to run |
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Dogie's Miner Setup Guides:Nicely formatted version available at dogiecoin.com!  Contents: 0a) What to Expect0b) What You Need1) Powering2) Cooling3) Case4) Configuration5) Troubleshooting0a) What to Expect (top)The Hammer ASIC is designed by SpondooliesTech (ST) and manufactured by TMSC in Israel. The SP10 contains 192 Hammer ASICs arranged into two large hashing boards. Hash rates vary between 1.4 and 1.5TH depending on ambient temperature, and power consumption between 1.1 and 1.3KW from the wall. Each contains a power supply, controller and integrated cooling system - all in a 1.25U case. Specifications are as follows: | Process Node | - 40 nm | | Package Type | - QFN64 8 mm x 8 mm | | I/O | - Serial protocol with clk, datain and dataout | | Rated Hash Rate | - 7.5 GHash/s per chip, ~1.4TH overall | | Rated Voltage | - 0.63 V stock, 0.6 V – 0.8 V | | Power.Consumption | - ~1100-1200W |
   0b) What You Need (top)You will a few accessories to get started. Click your flag to find everything you need to get started at Amazon!       1) Powering (top)SP10s come with a Emerson DS1050 server PSU with a 34 pin output. This means you can NOT replace it with a conventional PSU. It features:       2) Cooling (top)ASIC cooling requirements are usually limited to being either "sufficient", and/or "quiet". This is slightly different in the SP10 due to its thin form factor. Temperatures inside the unit determines hash rate so minimising ASIC temperatures are key to maximising returns. Two full length heatsinks are cooled by 6x40mm YS Tech Xtreme FD0124028EBP 40mm fans. They are powered by the controller board and specifications are below. | Dimensions (mm) | - 40x40x25 | | Max RPM | - 9000 | | RPM.Range.(firmware) | - 20-80% |
A sealed tunnel is serviced by negative pressure currents, which is used to intake, cool the heatsinks and exhaust in one uninterrupted continuous sweep. At stock, the fans run at ~70%, in turbo ~80% and in quiet mode 40%. Noise levels are extortionate at anything but quiet, in part due to the PSU's fan being fixed on at its max RPM. This is an error in the power supply, which is designed to run at up to 50C ambient and so is exceptionally overcooled. It is noted that the bottom of the case can get quite warm warm, and so side mounting is recommended to increase cooling and prevent damage to any wooden flooring.   3) Case (top)The SP10's case is 1.25U thick (55mm) and is designed to be rack-mountable in a 19" wide rack (482.6mm), or stacked. The boards were designed with the case in mind and the case was designed with the boards in mind. Harmony ensued. Mining modules are well protected and there is no room for potentially lose components to move during shipping. The unit is sealed against pets (apart from the 40mm PSU fan, for a grill can be added), although noise levels and surface temperatures mean the two should still be kept apart. Shipped weight of a SP10 is 14kg, dimensions of the shipping box are 660 x 550 x 130mm. External dimensions of the case are 475* x 440 x 54.7mm (+100mm for cabling). They are shipped with 6-32 (diameter) 3/8" (thread) screws for 19" racking mounting.  4) Configuration (top)Configuration is extremely simple (and may get simpler as the software is developed). - Plug in an ethernet cable from the SP10 to your router.
- Plug in a power cable from the mains to your PSU. The unit will auto turn on.
- Navigate to your router and find the list of devices.
- Using a browser, navigate to the IP assigned to the SP10 by your router.
- Login using "admin" as the username and password.
- Navigate to "Pools", enter miner information as below and click save.
- Navigate to "Settings" and change clock mode as desired.
Antpool Register!Servers : stratum.antpool.com:3333
User : username.worker or username_worker - auto creates workers!
Password: anypassword
Servers : stratum.btcguild.com:3333
User : username_worker
Password: anypassword
Servers : us1.ghash.io:3333
User : username.worker - auto creates workers!
Password: anypassword
TBD as problems arise.      Legal disclaimer: This information is for general guidance and does not constitute expert advice. We are not responsible if you, your property or a third party is injured or damaged as a result of any interaction with this information, and no warranty is provided. All text and images are covered by copyright.
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I'm sure you can help with the WRT problem. After flashing the custom firmware, I do not have the username and password to adjust the settings of the WR703n router. I tried the "root" and "admin" combo, but it did not let me in. Any ideas? Much appreciated.
Try this http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Reset_And_Reboot |
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The Raspberry Pi boots fine when I install the NOOBS distribution as well as when I flash the MinePeon .img map to the SD card. However, the Raspberry Pi fails to fully boot with Dogie's recommended Avalon OS, which seems to be an old release of OPEN-WRT.
I'm a Linux noob but I'm sure that if I can just get Dogie's OS to work in my Raspberry Pi I can get this Avalon 2 to hashing.
Ah right. I don't have a Rsp Pi to test on so we'll have to wait for someone else to run. I always run on WRTs. |
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Watch: $5k/TH vs $5k for 1.4TH. Secondly 6kW per 1TH unit vs 1.25kW for 1.4TH (6.7x worse W/GH). And 42U (whole rack??) vs 1.25U (47x worse density TH/rack?). Me thinks alydian will have to reduce their price or no one will buy them. 6kW at $0.15/kWh is $650/mo plus 6kW worth of heat to disipate via cooling vs $97/mo (power per TH). They would have to sell them at a significant discount for that to make sense in a mining calculator. (Less bad if your power is cheaper).
Yikes, thats barely better than gen1. |
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