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641  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: July 31, 2022, 05:09:06 PM
Add Action247.ag to NR. This is definitely something to stay away from at this time since it's run by an agent and you must PM him to sign up https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5407741.0
642  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: July 24, 2022, 03:25:59 AM
Add Yas.bet to NR. Top left or right to change languages.
643  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: July 21, 2022, 04:16:24 AM
I saw Roobet under the not rated list so i'll give my review since i've used their sportsbook a few weeks ago.

After registration, they'd require you to submit some personal information similar to stake's level 1 KYC but you don't have to submit any IDs.

Odds are not the best when compared against the best sportsbooks but still good enough as their odds provider is betsy which offers nice markets for esports and a cashout feature.

Deposits doesn't have any minimum and only require 1 confirmation to go through. For the withdrawals, there's a $10 minimum, you can also choose the fee levels and the processing time for withdrawals only takes a few minutes.

Their Roowards (reward system) is great as well, once you've placed enough bets you'll eventually unlock up to three types of rewards (daily rakeback, weekly cashback, and monthly bonus).

Great stuff as always ralle. I'll do some of my own research but if you happen to know odds provider of any other books can you post that since it saves me time. I'll add that info to the first page. Thanks
644  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: July 20, 2022, 12:59:01 AM
Any reviews on sportbet.one ? Apparently they are strictly no KYC which a lot us are looking for. Thanks in advance

Great to have another book with no KYC. For some reason I took sportbet.one down from NR. If anyone is playing at Sport.one, give us a review. I'll look in to them and put up a rating within the next two weeks.
645  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: July 17, 2022, 05:26:54 AM
Move Pitibet from "D" to "F". They may have closed shop.
646  Economy / Gambling / Re: How do you know how to trust online sportsbooks? on: July 14, 2022, 09:51:37 PM


When it comes to review sites then the places i do only trust is

Btcgosu
GamblingBro
and the rest are shit and biased.....
On Btcgosu I saw some time ago (week or two) that they had listed 1xbit with a good rating (probably 75-100), but now i can't find it on searching. have they removed it? Or I just failed to find it out

I havent seen it on the time had read up or visit the site back in the past or simply i just missed it out or it wasnt really there on the first place?
Its impossible that it would be placed into something trusted considering the owner of this site itself is a long time member which do knows on whats happening around
into this forum.

But as expected this one is really highly updated.
You could see that its been placed on blacklist.
https://www.btcgosu.com/bitcoin-casino-blacklist/

I think he moved it about a week ago, maybe less. I like to check out all the sites.
647  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: July 14, 2022, 05:50:39 AM
I've posted a small update in the paybetr thread, since my first post about playbetr was in this thread i am also gonna post it here, maybe it will be useful for someone.



Hi, it's me again, i've been using the site for quite some time now and i want to give everyone a small update.

-After all this time i can confirm that their boosted odds system works without any problem, you make a bet, if it wins just ask support and they will send the extra money to your account no questions asked, very easy. (i swear to god that the bets lose 80% of the time, that Jiri Prochazka fight was the ultimate bullshit, but that's life lol)

-They are now sending the boosted odds notice hours before the game giving you time to think if it is a good bet or not, sometimes in the past they would send it right before or even after the game started wich was annoying

-The site has a completly new layout, it's muchhhhhh better than the old one, feels much more modern and has a lot of new bets available, it also has a Maxbet button, so you don't have to waste time looking for a good bet just to find out later that you can only bet 10 dollars. Sadly it still in beta and has some bugs. The new layout is currently unavailable.

-I can also confirm that their support is very competent, they answer without delay and usually are able to find the solution.


Once they bring the new version back and fix the bugs i can easily recomend them, i would say they are on the same level if not better than sites like Stake and Sportsbet now.
Thanks for the updates on Playbetr. You talking about the Teixiera fight? Glover had that won if it went to the scorecards.
648  Economy / Gambling / Re: Alternatives to 1xbit on: July 13, 2022, 06:17:49 PM

manmulh
Quote
Thanks a lot for your response. Unfortunately the website is not up (the front end does load if you try and access it from a browser that has the website "in memory" with cache/cookies etc. but you can't log in anymore and it's not accessible from other browsers). Customer support deleted their telegram account actually, so it's not looking good...

Hopefully this gets straightened out but this was posted today concerning Betja that was opened in 2021. Another book that has been put in the F category until this is resolved.
649  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: July 13, 2022, 06:15:38 PM
There are strange things going on with the Betja.com website
I once had an account and played there. Limits were really ridiculously low, but that's a bookmaker's choice. When I indicated that I did not want to play with such limits and that I needed higher limits, they told me that I could create an account through them on the stake.com website
Is it a bit strange that you then want to offer your services at another bookmaker? Didn't understand much of it. When I wanted to think about it for a night, the message on telegram suddenly disappeared the next day, so I don't have a screenshot to show this. But I wouldn't be surprised if Betja contradicts this. When I read a message on the forum that Betja had deleted a telegram conversation, I felt it was my moral duty to share this story here on the forum. Incidentally, my payout was paid within a few hours last year.

Appreciate the story BitcoinAccepted. That's why this thread was created.
650  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: July 13, 2022, 06:09:49 PM
Hi,

I am having major issues with Betja at the moment. I initiated a withdrawal of bitcoins yesterday, and as it was still pending 24 hours later, I contacted customer support a couple of hours ago on their telegram. In the meantime, customer support has blocked me on telegram and the betja website seems to have been taken down, with my money locked on there of course...

Anyone here with a similar experience? Is there a representative from BetJA.com who could provide some help here?

Thanks.

They are up now betja.com If you aren't paid tomorrow, let us know and I'll contact them.

Thanks a lot for your response. Unfortunately the website is not up (the front end does load if you try and access it from a browser that has the website "in memory" with cache/cookies etc. but you can't log in anymore and it's not accessible from other browsers). Customer support deleted their telegram account actually, so it's not looking good...
Awful news. Thanks for bringing this to the forum. I'll still try to contact Betja.



Beetja downgraded to F.

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]
651  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: July 13, 2022, 04:36:13 PM
Hi,

I am having major issues with Betja at the moment. I initiated a withdrawal of bitcoins yesterday, and as it was still pending 24 hours later, I contacted customer support a couple of hours ago on their telegram. In the meantime, customer support has blocked me on telegram and the betja website seems to have been taken down, with my money locked on there of course...

Anyone here with a similar experience? Is there a representative from BetJA.com who could provide some help here?

Thanks.

They are up now betja.com If you aren't paid tomorrow, let us know and I'll contact them.
652  Economy / Gambling / Re: Alternatives to 1xbit on: July 12, 2022, 10:24:42 PM

I think the user was trying to passage a message not to try a new casino but the reason wasn't concrete enough to back the statement. If we don't try New casinos, there is no way we will know things that we are missing as most of these new platforms come with great features and since their primary objective is to converge the user base from older to their own, they will have lots of goodies to attract new people, especially the bonus but while doing this, we shouldn't let down the basics things to watch out for incase of any red flag.
Yeah, come to think of that as an objection to his claims in some ways, let's say since the gambling market is a highly competitive market quite a lot of features are being introduced, and most of the old casinos may not feature such new development and games but new sites will introduce such games and excellent features that can meet up to the demand of the time.

I went to the beginning of my thread to look and post a couple of books that scammed us lasting less than 2 years. You'll find more looking at all the F rated books. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0

StakeBTC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=420744.160
Bitcoinlivebets https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=215014.1820
Coinbet.cc https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=576109.500

It doesn't matter now, but for the World Cup, you'll want to be playing at established books. Books will be holding a lot of money after the World Cup ends. It's the best time for them to close if they do plan to close.


653  Economy / Gambling / Re: Alternatives to 1xbit on: July 11, 2022, 06:51:52 PM
Yea, we understand that it isn't a nice idea to play in a relatively new gambling sites. The longer and more reputable the better. If we all follow the rule of not investing till they last 2yrs. Who will be patronising them and how will they last upto 2yrs without patronage. It all boils down to being very careful.
I never prefer to use any new site either that is gambling site or that is currency exchange site. But Many people use new site too and that starts from nearest people of the site and also they become famous day by day as participant increase in the mean of time if there is a proper marketing and perfect support by the site.
Well, I am not against the use of the new site but again I will rather play on a reputable site than try to get a place on a brand new casino, quite a lot of new casinos face different challenges and some of them can not survive those challenge and it takes a long time before a new casino will get their fittings on the market. So one needs to do a review of a site before making any deposit.
new gambling sites (under 2 years old) do not yet have a big liquidity that can cover users making WD and deposits, the risk that you will bear when using their services is delayed in withdrawals or in the worst case, your funds are stolen (as we saw happened to bitlucy)

now there are many trusted gambling sites that have been operating for more than 2 years, with a myriad of ongoing events, so why should you take the risk of playing on a new gambling site, don't say humanitarian reasons LOL.

LOL. I agree with your post and it's almost guaranteed that one book or more with run away with our money after the World Cup. It happens after all of them.
654  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: July 11, 2022, 06:26:45 PM

"A" rated books

nitrobetting.eu A+ (2013 Nitrogensports)
betcoin.ag A+ (2013)    
playbetr.com A- (2019)        

"B"rated books
mBet.io B (2017) Horse racing..
stake.com B- (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.

"C" rated books
fortunejack.com C+ (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.
anonibet.com  C (2011)
sportsbet.io  C (2016)
cloudbet.com C- (2013)  
Bitsler.com C- (2015)  
maverickgames.com C- (2020)
Trustdice.win C- (2019)
Owl.games C- (2021)
Rollbit.com C- (2021)

D and F RATED BOOKS ARE HIGH RISK BOOKS AND SHOULD BE AVOIDED

"D" rated books  

betja.com D+ (2021)
Betnomi.com D+ (2020)
Betonbit.com D+ (2019)
Bitgame.com D+ (2015)
Moonbet.io D+ (2022)
parlayplus.com D+ (2019)
Rocketpot.io D+ (2019)
Wolf.bet D+ (2019)
1xbit.com D (2016)
AceDbets.io D (2020)
Bet365crypto.net D (2021)
Pitibet.io D (2020)
aidibets.io/sport D-
Betop.gg D- (2021)  
mysticbets.io D- (2022)


Not rated.
Mint.io
Latinbet24.com
Wintomato.com
roobet.com
coinroyale.com
Decibet.com (2022)



  

655  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sportbet.io lock my account. I cant play game or withdrawal on: July 09, 2022, 03:22:09 AM
Can you provide screenshot of the actual conversation of the support via email so that we can understand properly the flow of event on your case. You can use imgur.com to upload image then copy&paste the image link here to make it visible for u. I’m they really saw something in your account for there accusation because sportsbet will not gonna made up accusation just because you won 3600$. This is not the first time that this same issue arised but it all ended up being concluded as the user cheat the bonus by multi accounting. It's very hard to believe you right now so appreciate if you can share the conversation between you and support to make it transparent for evaluation.
If he didn't use a VPN, then he should be paid.
656  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: July 09, 2022, 02:36:21 AM
I have problem with sportbet.io
I’m a new member at sporbet. 6/7 i deposited $80 in USDT and play more games( slots and live game)
after 2 days i win $3600. But when i placed the withdrawal order, it didn't work
They locked my account and asked me to KYC,  i finished it but they said: " Please note that your account was disabled due to being flagged for multi accounting by our security systems.""

But i have 1 account in sportbet.io and I won that money by luck.

https://imgur.com/a/p9m4Qiy

P/s: Peeps Place has permission to inquire about my account

I'll shoot Steve a PM now. He's pretty reasonable and as long as you didn't use a VPN, you should be fine.

Thanks you so much. I dont use VPN

Let us know when you get paid. Not sure if Steve works the weekend but by Monday you should get paid.
657  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS : poster book discussion on: July 09, 2022, 02:20:32 AM
I have problem with sportbet.io
I’m a new member at sporbet. 6/7 i deposited $80 in USDT and play more games( slots and live game)
after 2 days i win $3600. But when i placed the withdrawal order, it didn't work
They locked my account and asked me to KYC,  i finished it but they said: " Please note that your account was disabled due to being flagged for multi accounting by our security systems.""

But i have 1 account in sportbet.io and I won that money by luck.

https://imgur.com/a/p9m4Qiy

P/s: Peeps Place has permission to inquire about my account

I'll shoot Steve a PM now. He's pretty reasonable and as long as you didn't use a VPN, you should be fine.
658  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake making new accounts is too easy on: July 07, 2022, 06:16:13 AM
I can make 50 accounts with 50 fake emails. It's too easy.
It's mind boggling that I'm able to deposit 100k worth of crypto using nothing but a fake name and fake email. Lose it. Close account self exclude
Then repeat the process a week after with a new account.
  System identification is non existent
When you go to withdraw is when they may hit you with KYC. Using a VPN isn't a good idea. It gets your money in but not out.
659  Economy / Gambling / Re: Alternatives to 1xbit on: July 06, 2022, 10:37:59 PM

Thank you wiwo for the prompt intervention here. It is obviously a wrong statement to say people should all new gambling sites. This is because not all new gambling companies scam. If all gamblers avoid new gambling sites, how will they grow? It will mean that the old gambling companies will keep existing and then monopolise the gambling industry.

Just anyone dealing with new gambling companies without a reputation should be very careful till the company becomes trusted.
We need to make that clarification because if new gambling platforms do not come up and grow truly, there won't be any difference in the way and manners most of the old gambling platforms will behave, but with the constant introduction of new casinos that will brace up the old sites to meet up. with current demands. And just as you mentioned the existence of only a few old gambling platforms will only lead to a monopolistic market.

New gambling sites creates competition and innovation. It still isn't a good idea to try new sites until they have at least two years in business. The amount of books that went under with our money is shocking. If they last 2 years, then they normally make it. After the World Cup there will be books that run.

"F" rated books or out of business
1x2coinsportsbook (2018)
Ball2Win
Betbit
BetCas
betking.io sportsbook closed Nov. 2018.
Betlake.com
betmatch.io closed 2018.
Betraft.com
Betroar.io (2020)
BetVIP
Bitbook
Bitbm
Bitcoinsport
Bitcoinlivebets
Bitcoinrush.io
Bitgame.online (2017)
bitsport.bet
Blockbet
BTCBonusBook (2015).
Casinoco (2015).
Coinbet
Coindrafts (2014)
Cryptobet.com (2020)
Dimecrypto.eu
DirectBet
Ghostbook (TOR)
Gobetgo (2013)
Jetwin.ps
Kawbet.com (2020)
Malubit (2019)
Match365
Powerbet (2016)
Sportbet.im
StakeBTC
Webetcoins
webet7.com
660  Economy / Gambling / Re: KYC casino or no-KYC casino, but with no bonuses/no cashback? on: July 06, 2022, 07:03:30 PM
I have made a statement/reason why I refuse KYC in this topic I created -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5074402.msg59417542#msg59417542.

currently, I only do KYC on 2 exchanges (local exchange and binance) but none of the gambling sites I am willing to KYC on. non KYC casino is perfect for me.

I read the thread, it's good. Most don't understand the value of their information and ignore that employees at casinos get a hold of their information and sell it without the casino knowing.
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