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681  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it the best time to buy cheaper crypto while Bitcoin is at high price? on: June 24, 2018, 01:58:18 PM
yes, this is the right time you can invest now, because now the price is also cheap, so you will more easily get a good profit. with you waiting for a higher sale price.
A lot of the altcoins are currently in their bottom and that makes them an easy hold for anyone who is looking forward to the huge profit for long position.

It is still very necessary to be careful one is picking cryptocurrencies that are presently in their historical prices right now, than just picking any one as there could be some chances where the value can still go down lower for some in the case where bitcoin gets to go down lower but whichever way, it is really a good time to start picking some of them.
682  Economy / Speculation / Re: What started this bear trend? on: June 24, 2018, 08:50:39 AM
The price has suffered from the beginning of the year and it is clear why this was the case, there was simply too much money in the market and as soon as the price went down because some people were taking their profits people began to panic sell
Where is the too much money ? What you mean by much money in the market ? You mean the bumped prices were tended to fall down ? If that is the case, the bear market has started or fixed from the beginning of its rising itself. I guess we cannot say just one reason for entire fall of the market. People pumped the market and now dumping. This must be the real cycle

after a while it was impossible to stop the crash, to me it is not really complicated to understand.
After a big bubble, a crash must be inevitable. Bitcoin's actual worth by end of last year must be $10k only it seemed but traders bumped up to ~$20k then obviously it has to fall below its actual worth too.
683  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin and 2018 on: June 24, 2018, 08:08:44 AM
bitcoin is still very young and the trading opportunities that will appear when institutional money finally begins to invest in bitcoin will be enormous so this is the perfect time to go long in bitcoin if you are planning to hold for the long term, or if you feel adventurous and feel you can manage the volatility you could go short and wait for a decrease in the price.
2018 is approximately the ninth year of bitcoin and in many countries people would be finishing off their elementary education as in next two years they are entering into secondary level in teen ages. Kinder garden alone is being considered as young age in their traditions.

Coming back to bitcoin, I am not thinking that bitcoin is still in its young age. We are in the beginning of middle term which may last for centuries of years. Price wise, 2018 must be a very hard year. So far in this year, we are facing only down trend and yesterday market has broken the strong support levels around $6000 which may lead to more unexpected things. I am praying to God for those not to happen again unlike what happened in 2014.
684  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I wish I dump all the BTC in late DEC 2017 on: June 23, 2018, 06:36:31 PM
what a year, wish I dump all the coin in late DEC lol

and today, spend the 100% from that capital and bought it again, so u still holding the same amount as late DEC while steady with the 900% profits..

Oh come on.
What if I bought BTC when it was under 10$ and sold it when it reached $20k?
You didn't know what will happen, made the wrong decision and that's that.
That is it. No one could have thought we would go this far or the possibility of the market even going lower right now. If we can see the future, we surely would have all made certain decisions without blinking an eye. Even professional traders try to use patterns to know when they should best stay in the market or leave the market and if you do not have such knowledge, the best is just to HODL, and hope for the future or buy more during the dips to compensate for the wait.
685  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What are the useful tips for beginners? on: June 23, 2018, 05:18:35 PM
I believe that beginner's should understand how the system in the market work's like buy when the market price is low and sell it again when it increases, with this simple rules, anyone can be very rich if they are patient enough on the different situations in the market.
Not understanding the system, the past, the movements and all that brings about the value in the industry is what has made a lot of beginners to invest blindly till date and still making grievous mistakes.

As long as they can understand there is a future for the market and there is likelihood of speculation driven market, they will know how to apply their senses into making the best of the market but these days, we just have some set of people who are looking for ways to just get rich overnight without doing anything for it.
686  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Crash recoveries are not moons on: June 23, 2018, 02:52:53 PM
It's irritating to see people saying that after a 20% crash (which happened a week ago or so), that 1 or 2% daily recoveries is a good sign for the market. It's not.
You cannot just say that recoveries are not a good sign for a market. There are various factors that affect the recovery. Hell, various factors affect what you say. Sometimes, if not most of the times,  they are good. The rest, they are bad.

One main factor is that, sometimes recoveries are not a good sign if a coin is only meant to be pumped and dumped. Take XVG for example.
Having a short correction is not a bad thing for the market and when you see a market that just keeps going down without those corrections shows a high level of weakness in the market and possibilities of a crash. This was the exact thing happened in last year December month.

The little flags that are shown is just to let us know the bulls are in a way still trying to fight back but too weak to do so until the moment will come when there would be enough to strike back and that is what volume most of the time usually depicts but there is nothing wrong with the market at all.
687  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I wish I dump all the BTC in late DEC 2017 on: June 23, 2018, 12:54:54 PM
Funny thoughts from you guys. I'm quite sure not even one here would have hold through the up and downs. If you would have bought Bitcoin @1$ and it came to $100 then drop to $20 again and then suddenly reaches 100$ again you would have sold everything out  Grin

Maybe in a few years you will write "Shit i should have hold my Bitcoins @~$15k and sold it now for (~2020) for 200k."
Yes, that is one picture people are not getting. It is either you are trader or you are an investor and as an investor you just need to have patience even during all the fluctuations which are normal and never give up hope in the market.

It is a lot of risk to take holding through it all but that is understandable for anyone who has been able to familiarize with the market and understand it has a future. However, it is even more risky for someone trying to trade without any knowledge because that is how it gets so easy for people to make mistakes and seeing what you mentioned playing out.
688  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin at 20 000$ tomorrow? on: June 23, 2018, 11:59:20 AM
Tytanowy Janusz you write interesting post, I see something like this few times on forum. Idea that some very rich person can come in market and invest billions in BTC is in any case possible, but I think that we not have such person in this moment - Buffet certainly is not one of these people since he is talking against BTC all time. Also problem may be in fact that most of rich people have their fortune in real estate, gold/silver , works of art and so on, so it is hard to expect they will change their opinion regarding BTC over night, especially because it is very risky asset.

But in any case I leave all options open when it comes to BTC, even such scenario is not easily achievable.
We cannot even have any whale that will do that all at once as it would take strategy into buying position as the whales keep accumulating but for now, I am not expecting that a whale would just come to the market and buy all the sell-walls all at once.

I understand that anything is possible but we all know whales are smart manipulators and will always use all avenue to drive the market to their advantage, but for starters though, even though it is something that can be done, I am not sure any whale will want to do that.
689  Economy / Economics / Re: Why all people moan about the price of bitcoin? on: June 22, 2018, 06:53:16 PM
Of course all people are moan about the price of bitcoin because the others month left this year is very low low prices in the market until now it will be falling down that's why the people are worried the status of bitcoin as of now in the market.
Most people who are moaning today apparently bought at the peak and I am sure there is no one who bought way back that is still not in profit till date. It is understandable we will keep seeing people like this who thought bitcoin was a get rich quick scheme and investing has set them up for life but in fact, they only ended up joining the FOMO and they are here wishing they did not.

All hope is not lost however as the future is still very bright and anyone who understands that would not even moan a bit.
690  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrency is a trending topic all over the world? on: June 22, 2018, 06:15:06 PM
Everywhere you can find cryptocurrency topic especially ICO projects are doing well on the marketing through social media like facebook, twitter, reddit, linked, youtube and etc.
But as it said that facebook and twitter banned ICO's paid advertisement but it's still a hot topic on these platforms and people are getting interested about it. Each day, there are people adding to the market and gets interested all of the time.
Yes, and it seems that bad publicity which spreads faster even generates more interest most of the time.
We keep seeing FUDs being created but that is not in any way stopping anything and all we are just seeing is the space even developing the more. Things are gradually getting even more interesting by the day and you see some celebrities like 50cent discovering he has some bitcoin stash somewhere and some interesting news that makes you to keep wondering where you had been all these while.
691  Economy / Economics / Re: How to cope up with the falling prices? on: June 22, 2018, 05:33:53 PM
Best time to invest/ accumulate is when the price get back to it ICO Price or lower than the ICO price, Be strategic in your approach at time you migth need to follow the road map of the project and news for or against the project, you do not need to panic when the prices are down, do ensure you reasearch about the project before investing, if the price of the coin is down and its is a general market trend you do not need to get scared.
A lot of people panic so much that they always end up not making smart moves in a lot of cases. This is a very interesting moment to always get some of these coins or tokens at a far lesser price.

Like smart moneys always say, buy when everyone is panicking and the market is in red and sell when everyone is happy and getting anxious to see the moon or when the market has gotten to the overbought state. As it is, certain people still do not want to get that part but they keep doing the opposite instead.
692  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are some unique advantages of online gambling ? on: June 22, 2018, 04:49:28 PM
I will start with one to begin the discussion. If you are putting huge amounts at stake and want to keep identity private, online gamblign comes as a boon.
Probably the biggest advantage for online gambling is convince, you could just gamble at any time anywhere with a simple click of a button where in real life gambling you need to physically travel to a casino which you may or may not be able to enter depending on how much money you got, which brings us t other next advantages which is probably the biggest one, is that with online gambling you don't need to have thousands or hundreds of dollars to gamble like in real life ones, just a few extra bucks that you have laying around could get you even more money if you are lucky.
Somehow that can come into play as there is no closing time unlike when it comes to casino where most of the time in most casinos, it is not always round the clock and there would always be time opened for business. I guess most gamblers must hate these time restrictions as it is a kind of blocking in their entertainment.

For online gambling, anywhere you are globally around the world, it is accessible and it even gets better with cryptocurrency gambling where you can load up and easily get paid as well with ease but they all still balls down to luck when it comes to winning.
693  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to spot a scam ? on: June 22, 2018, 04:02:20 PM
How do you guys spot scam betting sites ? Which are the red flags with those kind of sites and do you believe the rating/review sites or they are mainly paid like the ICO review sites ?
There are reviews online as some may have been a victim before and be helpful enough to share their experience which is the only way I hope would be pretty easy to be able to know if a gambling site is a scam or not. Also, you may want to just stick with what others are using and those with far better reputation than trying to gamble a site that is unknown and not well used which I feel you will be better off.
694  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Excuses on: June 21, 2018, 09:00:30 AM
Did you ever gamble with other's money to pay your own debts or otherwise to solve a certain problem through gambling?

NO I have never gambled with another person's money, that is just irresponsible to say the least!
There have been times when I have suggested to people with extra money to make specific investments, but thats the extent of gambling with someone else's money.
I even wonder why someone will be taking a huge risk such as that. Gambling with other people's money just for the sake of paying debt is more like setting yourself up for even more burns as you will get so screwed you will keep piling up debts. That is like the most insane thing I will ever get to hear someone do.

Yeah, that must have gotten to some addiction level to even go to that length, and the only thing anyone should ever gamble with is what they can afford to lose, and I do not think someone else's money should be part of that.
695  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are some unique advantages of online gambling ? on: June 20, 2018, 06:05:34 PM

for some people gambling in real casinos may feel way better , so if you are a roulette player you may not even like online gambling
personally I may prefer real casinos since I never been to one cause there are no casinos here
but when it comes to poker and sportsbetting people may really prefer online gambling since it's a consistent that being repeated like daily so there is no point on sticking to live casinos with these

the identity thing may not be the case , since like almost the big names require you to send ID but still you may manage to find some good ones without KYC

I played poker both online and landbased casino, i would say that too different playing online and landbased casinos even in poker and any other table games. It is much exciting in real casino. The ambiance are different and relaxing. Playing face to face with the co player can boost our strategy. Yeah online may keep our identity but not at all times.
Obviously, relative to ambiance, you cannot compare a real life casino to an online casino. We are talking about real life to just picking up your system with you only in front of it and gambling all your way.

In traditional casinos, at least you get to have others to gist with, have some fun along the way while doing your thing which is one thing you definitely cannot get from online casinos no matter how some of them integrated chat with theirs. Except for the perks that come with payment, and staying anonymous, it is hard to find something else to point at.
696  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Have firm decisions on trading, hodle for future long term profits. on: June 20, 2018, 05:28:04 PM
closing your eyes and holding on to every altcoin that is out there and promises you green days will only mean hug losses. it is like holding on to a big rock while falling in the sea. of course you will drown! you should let go of the sinking rock because its demise is inevitable no matter how much you try and hold on tight the rest of the world is dumping said altcoins and you will be buried under their dump.
It is always funny to me Grin Actually when I get to see some newbie investors or traders using patience as the word to console themselves in a market where they should gain enough knowledge and be trading like some professional trader who really knows what he or she is doing. But holding may fetch their intended results regardless of current market conditions.

Moreover, a lot of them usually do not like going via that path. It is always good to learn so as to know how to plan every point of trading from buying to selling and stopping loss and I can bet very few traders have a good idea on how to go about that effectively.
697  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Quit cryptocurrency trading its not for you! on: June 20, 2018, 04:56:54 PM
Crypto-currencies trading does not really suits every traders, some traders are afraid to see the huge price drops in crypto-currencies but this is actually a very common sight in crypto-currencies trading, and I would say the traders who are able to hold their bitcoin and altcoins for a long period of time during a bear market would stand a higher chance to make more profit than others.
Some really should not even be called traders as long as they did not go through the path of learning and garnering some experience before going ahead to start trading. Trading is a profession and one that comes with a lot of decision making which is hard to make such decisions without very good knowledge.

As long as wannabe traders start getting the idea that this is a risky and volatile market, I guess that would make them to understand why they should not just assume things will go smoothly for them without any knowledge.
698  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Two important strategies in crypto trading on: June 20, 2018, 03:58:30 PM
i thinkt hat the best way to succeed while trading is just by following your own strategy, there is no need to follow other strategies because it wont suit on your trading mode.
Yeah, and there is no better way you can trade than that. Once you have your strategy and you easily stick with it without bothering yourself much about what others are saying or doing in the market, then you will be able to make your own decisions easily and stick with them. What affects most traders is that they follow everyone that calls themselves pro trader and get confused the more in the process. It is important to learn and find a way to always do it better you.
699  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Hello traders on: June 20, 2018, 02:33:00 PM
Im working long hours everyday and dont have the time to study technical analysis..so what I did is I bought coins during bearish time .but when I check them back the value goes even dipper..what should be the best thing to do..apply a cutloss strategy or just leave them until the market goes bearish again?
You already committed a mistake when you bought coins during bearish times. When I see majority of the coins are in Red, I don't buy anything and I don't sell anything. I'll just start trading when the coast is clear. However when I see 60% are in Red and the remaining coins are in Green I'll start buying but I'll check which one is the biggest loser of them all, I'll list down at least the bottom five and check which one is the lowest volume, check price history for the past 7 days, then use tools like RSI and Parabolic SAR then I'll decide which one to buy. It's just me, its still up to you on what to do with your money.
Yeah, that was a real blunder he really committed as picking the reds rather than waiting for the trend to change is a big mistake.

The market should always be some few steps ahead as that is the easiest way to make any trade so as to stay safe and see how patterns eventually unfold, but the idea where some people feel they can just buy low and sell high is what makes them buy low and then the market moving way lower. RSI and Parabolic SAR may even be too much for him, studying divergence on MACD is enough to start with.
700  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Criteria of a good gambler on: June 20, 2018, 01:18:30 PM
In my opinion the best gambler is one who leaves gambling when he wins a bet because if he continues he will lose his winning again. This is the criteria of a bad gambler. When you back to home with extra money you will be mentally relaxed and happy. If you lose money you will be upset till the next gambling. A good gambler never loses all his money at one time.
In summary, one who knows when to call it quit either as a winner or a loser. We can classify that a good thing because it is hard to see most gamblers do that.

Most gamblers always want to push harder when they are losing and end up losing much more, while someone who has won so much may still want to keep trying until he or she loses everything all over again and start losing even the little he started with in the first place. I would say a good gambler is one that is smart to know what to do at every particular point in time.
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