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801  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: June 17, 2017, 10:24:45 AM
Then congratulations to you. You must have got lucky on investing and trading. Signature campaigns usually pay 0.015BTC a week for your rank. Multiplying that to 10,000,000,000, you have 150,000,000BTC per week. Wow. That's even higher than the total supply of bitcoin which is just 21 million. Roll Eyes

Kidding aside, I get your point. You're trying to say that you've made much more money on some other ways. Signature campaigns might not be the best way to make money, but it surely isn't the worse way since you'd see other people doing faucets and PTC sites. Signature campaign gives you much more than that and for a layman (a guy who doesn't specialize on anything), it's quite a good pay.

I made 0BTC from signature campaigns you have to bend over backword to the as#$@#$ putting demands for those $0.015 so I made 0 so far they don't like my kind to them I'm just a looser they don't want to touch wiht a 10 stick pole. For signature campaing you need to shut up and be a good little robot. Whatever! Trading I make more then more of my frieds on a full time job and you cna't make that on Signature campags. Anyway I would do it for $0.015 per week buty I think most poeple pumping those are lieyers I bet 99% of them are not making that much they just lie!

I do understand the butt hurt and the "I just don't fit in" kind of thing going on with you. But these people are not liars at all. As a matter of fact, I'm making 0.042BTC on my signature campaign per week but now the price of bitcoin has blown up so they lowered it to 0.031BTC per week.

You can take a look at the signature campaign table and see how much you can actually make in signature campaigns. If you never found signature campaigns appealing, that's alright. Maybe you're just looking for a job that requires actual skills. Signature campaigns require nothing but knowledge and the time to share them.
802  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: June 17, 2017, 10:13:44 AM
If you tell them the advantages about bitcoin that would be the best way to encourage them to accepr BTC. Hoping soon local business would accept btc.

And they will ask you, what are the most popular and basic advantages of bitcoin when they are going to accept it? You can say that if they have customers offshore they can tell their customers to send their payments by means of bitcoin. And by that way, that is going to make their transactions fast and convenient.

Please tell me you're being sarcastic. Gone are the days when bitcoin has fast transactions and low fees. You're not going to buy 3$ worth of coffee and then spend 2 more dollars for the transaction fee in bitcoins. And even with this amount of transaction fee, you'd still have to wait a couple of hours before the transactions comes through. Plus, it's not convenient since the store owner has to wait before he can ever get those coins. We're still not at the point when a store looks cool when it says "Bitcoin accepted here." since we're so far away from mass adoption.

Fiat is still the best when it comes to microtransactions. No transaction fee. Instant confirmations. That's fiat for you.
803  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: June 17, 2017, 10:03:30 AM
The future transaction even can now take place Automated via ATM. Even if today there a lot of fiat transactions. More and more people and even establishments are using atm as a means of payment. And now that digicurrency is coming to effect, fiat really is a questionable transaction during future. For me it is better if your money is in a bank rather than you holding it physically. Even if you lost your atm, there are ways to block the account if it was lost. And i agree also that network transactions has a faster process but i think for now it has many confirmations so i guess in the near future blockchain can be fixed and we can all now enjopy low  fee or instant sending.

Unfortunately, you don't have to lose your card in order to lose the money in it. Someone only has to take a picture or even just memorize the numbers written on your card and he can use it on online transactions. Your pin code or your pass code is not needed for online transactions. The only thing that's needed are your card number, the expiry date, and the 3 digit code at the back of your card. There are websites that require the name of the card holder too.

In the black market, there are people selling stolen credit and debit cards. It's pretty obvious that someone will not carelessly use another person's card and have the bought item dropped off on his very own home. They even use a service where the stuffs you bought with the stolen card are dropped off to somebody else's place.
804  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: June 17, 2017, 09:51:31 AM
Hey guys I'm not sure if this is the right place so please tell me if it is not. With that out of the way, I have a question for you all. I have recently been able to gather about .5 btc through minor trading and I was wondering if there was any method or way to grow this btc into a larger amount safely and fairly quickly. Thanks!
Signature campaign is the best way for you to earn money. You need only to show your skills to promote their product. It is very easy than the trading and gambling. Trading and gambling has a high risk you can't even sure that you will gain money here.

I disagree it's the worst way! I have made 10,000,000,000X more investing and trading then signature campaigns! So focus something you can make significant money don't step over the Bitcoins to get the Satoshies!

Then congratulations to you. You must have got lucky on investing and trading. Signature campaigns usually pay 0.015BTC a week for your rank. Multiplying that to 10,000,000,000, you have 150,000,000BTC per week. Wow. That's even higher than the total supply of bitcoin which is just 21 million. Roll Eyes

Kidding aside, I get your point. You're trying to say that you've made much more money on some other ways. Signature campaigns might not be the best way to make money, but it surely isn't the worse way since you'd see other people doing faucets and PTC sites. Signature campaign gives you much more than that and for a layman (a guy who doesn't specialize on anything), it's quite a good pay.
805  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: June 17, 2017, 09:39:40 AM
There are more to fiat currencies, to dollar than you think. I think that there are psychological things that makes fiat currency good. Some people like more to have something in their hand, to know how much that is worth and to see it. Bitcoin is not as perfect as you think, and not as secure as you think. But i agree that electronic currency is future.

I would really appreciate it if you elaborate more about saying that bitcoin is not as secure as we think. Did you ever get hacked? Did someone lose their bitcoins because someone successfully cracked their private keys? I don't see any people claiming that. If someone has such algorithm to do so, he'd probably hack someone that has the most bitcoins (or at least a good amount of it) but you don't see any news about that at all.

Other than your own negligence, I don't see how can someone get their bitcoins stolen.

Maybe you even meant the security of the network? Oh God, it's as secure as you need it to be because otherwise it should have been destroyed by now.
806  Economy / Services / Re: Civic Signature & Avatar Campaign | Full members to Legendaries | [OPEN] on: June 17, 2017, 08:57:51 AM
Escrow status?
I am the manager as well as the escrow of this campaign. I have already stated that payments will be made by ME. But, thanks for asking.
I don't think he was asking to be a dick. He manages the signature campaigns thread on services board and needs to know to post the info.

I apologize Edwardard I didn't notice the last statement. I was just updating the table of signatures thread like yahoo said. Smiley
807  Economy / Services / Re: Bitsler Signature & Avatar Campaign (Rates Changed)(up to .0375/week) on: June 17, 2017, 08:46:41 AM
Just wanna ask if the Legendary payrate is actually 0.001125BTC and not a typo for 0.00125BTC because staff position is 0.00125BTC and most of the time they are the same rate. Thanks! Smiley

Too bad the rates has changed. 30 posts used to be around 0.042BTC now it's just 0.031BTC. Some other campaigns are paying the same rate for just 25 posts a week. As of now, at least. They probably would lower their rates too. This campaign is still the best though because it's one of the longest.
808  Other / Archival / Re: . on: June 17, 2017, 08:36:44 AM
I bought all the 5 colors for dice sets because I thought they look cool. I also bought my first physical coin. 1 brass cryptopods! I will update once I received them. Grin Thanks, minerjones.
809  Economy / Services / Re: Civic Signature & Avatar Campaign | Full members to Legendaries | [OPEN] on: June 16, 2017, 09:10:41 AM
Escrow status?
810  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin and many altcoin price down today? what the news I missed? on: June 15, 2017, 03:27:00 PM
When both bitcoin and altcoin price is going down, it only means one thing. People are cashing out their money. You can see the ecosystem going on. When the price of bitcoin in terms of dollar is increasing, then altcoin prices are going down (in bitcoin terms) and vice versa. But if both of them are going down, then the fiat money supplied is going down.

Apparently someone sold $839K worth of bitcoins. (Source) It's pretty annoying seeing people talking that ETH is starting to take over when in fact ETH is just crashing as much as bitcoin does. There's no competition going on at the moment, really. People are simply cashing out huge amounts of money.
811  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many people are asking you about Bitcoin now? on: June 15, 2017, 03:14:18 PM
A lot of my friends are into doing things that make them earn money, apparently. We're all about to graduate college and it's not that all of us have a job waiting for us. Plus, having a decent job is not exactly an option for us. We have to work for a while and get paid in minimum rate in order to have a job background to put in our resume/portfolio.

A lot of them are asking me about bitcoins. If I sense that they are just doing it to throw shade at bitcoins, I just smile and simply go away. I don't have time to hear other people's opinion about bitcoin since it'll just be a shitty conversation and they are pretty much not going to base it on facts but rather their feelings about it.
812  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What to do with the people who don't like Bitcoin? on: June 15, 2017, 02:46:52 PM
I have some friends who literally hate BTC and after this ransomware thing exploded it became more, We cant do anything but showing them the value of BTC and altcoins in our lives. Crypto currencies made many of us financially stable and it made our lives better.

Uhmm, and then? They can hate bitcoin as much as they want but it would not make a slight difference. I think it's absurd to convince them. It's also absurd to even think about their hate of bitcoins. The ransomware guy doesn't have any other choice. He has to use bitcoins to remain anonymous. All other payment methods such as Paypal, Skrill, etc. if he used any of those payment method, he should have been traced by now.

If you look at the bright side, what he did was a free promotion for us. A lot of things (even people) get hated and that makes them even more popular.
813  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: June 15, 2017, 02:31:42 PM
Make a good earning through a day job and buy one or two bitcoin. This is the best way one can get to have one or two bitcoin into the wallet. Else make a better earning of two bitcoin and risk it into gambling and trading, based on the luck you'll be profited good.
Yeah, I agree with you on this point, at first you have to earn a handsome amount of money then it should be invested in the Bitcoin mining or saving, at least two or more bitcoin should be needed for this purposes.if you have 2 bitcoin then it will beget one bitcoin in a month...

Too hard to find a job where you can earn 3000$ monthly. That is the value can represent 1 bitcoin. Many countries pay 200$ to 300$ for one month of hard work and that is only one fraction of bitcoin.
Now it's too hard to make 1 bitcoin in profit monthly, some years ago it was very easy, but not now. This thread is already outdated, because the price was very different when this thread was created.


Actually you can easily find it if you are expert on coding and programming since this skills has expensive salary aswell as you can earn this to if you can find those altcoin campaigns who wants some translation on their ANN thread and whitepaper since they are giving some huge bounty to their tranlator workers.

Hmm, indeed one of the best we can do is have a skill in coding. For as I'm concerned, that the world has a lot of coding a big advantage. Because only with the making of a coding can be given a huge salary, because the internet world is very complex. But it all requires a process to be successful, so that when we want to get something big must be willing to be in a fairly long process
 

I heard that programmers get pretty decent pay in the real world. Apparently, if you live in a third world country, that's not the case. You'd be much better off looking for clients and making websites for them rather than having a job and get that minimum salary someone who's below your level also have.

I guess this is where the power of the Internet comes in. A programmer's skills can only go up. As time pass by, he'd encounter more and more problems to solve and more useful syntax of a  programming language. In no time, he can finally compete with the freelance programmers on the Internet and have an actual "decent" pay, not some third world country minimum rate.

I'm actually thinking of learning how to program and then offering my service to companies that are starting to bloom in my place. None of them have an ordering system online and I think it would be a big advantage for them to have one.
814  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: June 15, 2017, 02:15:46 PM
Yes I agree with the idea to have a bitcoin bank.So that every bitcoiner have to save bitcoin so that it is easy to withdraw when you want to make it cash.And I think it is easy to incash if theres a bitcoin bank and this is better to every bitcoiner because you can save and earn fast when price of bitcoin increase .Saving bitcoin is different from saving money.Bitcoin bank has a multiple profit than cash is just a percentage of rhe savings.

One thing that should have been clarified here, what is the concept of the bitcoin bank. In a way, all exchanges out there are already bitcoin banks. They just don't have the physical bank. You can exchange your bitcoin into digital fiat anytime you want with exchange and vice versa. You can also issue a cash out to your bank account whenever you want. The only thing, though, it will take a couple of days to most exchanges.

So, how is the idea of bitcoin bank any different to these exchanges? People here hates not having bitcoin totally decentralized but exchanges (and web wallets) surely are not decentralized.
815  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin in India? Not for a LOOOOONG time. on: June 15, 2017, 02:04:03 PM
Partially agreed with op, but there is another thing which we have to accept is, bitcoin is known and is being used by a select few who are mostly tech savvy. If you bounce on any common man in the most developed world who has nothing to do directly with technology, you will be in the same mathematics.
The same with my area too, 99% of the people don't no anything about bitcoin. The few people that have hear about bitcoin are those that are familiar with internet which only form about seventy percent of our country populace. People that know about it compared it mmm or pozin scheme. India is a great nation and they adoption of bitcoin will be a boost to blackchain industry.

How so? India is a poor country and if they get to be known as a country that's using bitcoin, they can give a bad name to large investors because they would probably think that the coin is for poor people. But all these can result as a good thing as well. If bitcoin finally resolve scaling issues and the Indian people are able to do microtransactions, then that means smaller business can adopt to bitcoins as well.

Unfortunately, none of these are going to happen in the foreseeable future. SegWit will never be activated. UASF? I don't think that will be a success at all. When you take a look at the global scale of the game, no one cares about microtransactions, only people that are outpriced for bitcoin which are just a bunch of small players.
816  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: June 15, 2017, 01:51:24 PM
Bitcoin is the safest cryptocurrency so if you want to trading, btc-fiat is good. The price fluctuation is not frequently happen so you can check the price every 12 hours or more.

Not really sure if that's a good strategy to say right now because those that bought bitcoins at $2900 surely are losing their minds right now. Bitcoin is going down like crazy because of the bitfinex incident. People are expecting bitcoins to go down up to $1600. Some even believe that it will go lower. If someone were to check the price difference 12 hours in the past as oppose to bitcoin's current price, he/she surely will be devastated especially if they are just a newbie.

On the bright side of things, it's a good time to wait for the deepest of the dip and buy some bitcoins.
817  Economy / Services / Re: Liqui Exchange - Signature campaign on: June 14, 2017, 04:27:18 PM
Is this Campaign Active?
 i wanna join

I just checked the spreadsheet. The last payment was months ago and the participants have already removed their signature code. Time to remove them from the signature campaign table.
818  Economy / Economics / Re: Why have Bitcoin instead of cash? on: June 13, 2017, 06:41:16 AM
Bitcoin instead of cash. Why not! Bitcoin is more secure than cash. You can have a huge amount in your web wallet wherever you go without worrying it can be stole. Worst things come, the wallet is lost or stolen you have à back up wallet. So nothing to worry. Bitcoin is very portable and convenient to use. And lastly, it is borderless, meaning no county can stop it from going in or out.

Bitcoin surely is secure but web wallets aren't. The to-go wallet of newbies are web wallets but hackers surely are low-key penetrating those websites. There are also people that are looking for bugs of a website. You don't know what might happen to the website. Moreover why you shouldn't use web wallets is the fact that the point of using bitcoins is to remove trusted third parties. Web wallets can be seen as trusted third parties since you trust the people behind that website that they aren't going to run away your funds and at that their website is secure enough.
819  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: June 13, 2017, 05:56:35 AM
Fiat will never be worthless in this condition because the number of bitcoins is limited with millions. When you campare all fiat Money amount with bitcoin, you'll see that fiat Money is dominating like crazy.

Bruh, that actually makes fiat's value go down. You're talking about the quantity of the the two. In bitcoin, there would only be 21 million of it but it can be divided in much smaller portions. Fiat, on the other hand, is almost as if is infinite. When the government needs some money, they just print more and more fiat. You'd see commodities go up in price but in reality, it's just that your currency has lower value than yesterday.

One example why the amount of fiat money makes it have a much lesser value is the case of Zimbabwean dollars. They printed really high denominations of their money so they ended up having a hyper-inflated currency. In other words, their currency has become worthless.
820  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: June 13, 2017, 05:47:16 AM
Paper money will continue to diminish its use in future. Because government itself through banks has brought innovation credit card or other cards. Making payments without paper money has occurred in many countries around the world, and thats a fact.
yes online payment and Visa card extra are good examples of it. in future we can expect that government will surly start thinking about making bitcoin as legal currency, at least they will start thinking about to create their own crypto currency which they will use for their own country and which will be in their control
However the Countries show interest on digital currency and digitize the financial system paper money will be used, only the usage volume might get decreased. Even with Countries that show interest on digital currency just have digitalized paper money. Bitcoin is something apart from this. Paper money is the base of financial system, so it will be used forever.

And it will continue to be like that for a very long time. The government will not start using crytocurrencies because the nature of cryptocoins alone, which is being decentralized, is something the government don't want. And there's basically no point for them to create another cryptocoin for their local currency since they already have digital fiat. It will just be a waste of time and resource to their end as well as to their people's end.
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