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The correct way to treat this income is as interest income. So for example...
You have 1 btc with basis of $2000 and you lent it for 1 month and earned .1 btc and the btc price is now $2500
You would have interest income of $250 and unrealized capital gains of $500, which would be realized when you sell that coin. You now have a basis in the .1 of $250.
It may not be interest income. For federal tax purposes, virtual currency is treated as PROPERTY. So it's not a currency or financial instrument. It may be considered as property rental income. This is correct. Until the coins are sold, appreciation doesnt really matter from a legal standpoint. value is only taxed after it is realized as cash. so the sources of bitcoin, if legal are irrelevant. as you cant really spend bitcoin on anything of substance in the world, there is little risk of you evading taxes by buying physical goods. you will need to convert to fiat eventually; when you do, it will be recorded on most major exchanges. and like we learned with coinbase, if they have the records, no matter what the policy is, a government can/will access them to determine tax liability. |
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BTC-e is Russia based exchange operator which was accused by the FinCen enforcement law authorities for money laundering and being linked with drug sales, AML and stole bitcoins from MtGox. Their press release says: BTC-e also processed transactions involving funds stolen between 2011 and 2014 from one of the world’s largest bitcoin exchanges, Mt. Gox. BTC-e processed over 300,000 bitcoin in transactions traceable to the theft. FinCEN has also identified at least $3 million of facilitated transactions tied to ransomware attacks such as “Cryptolocker” and “Locky.” Further, BTC-e shared customers and conducted transactions with the now-defunct money laundering website Liberty Reserve. How is that a Russian-based exchange could be shut down by US authorities? What are the basis to do it? LOL, even if they didnt have juridiction, this definitely happened and is not going to be reversed by mere petition. the coins belong to the US now, essentially, because they are evidence. I would be absolutely floored if the authorities released those coins; notice that the legal guys on the dark markets didnt get their coins back. They dont seem to evaluate individual cases; the group is guilty by association. But to answer your question, this is American partisan politics at work  notice the timing of everything: 1)Russian investigation in election interference 2)Sessions rolls back asset forfeiture laws 10 years 3)Alpha Bay gets taken down (they were obviously watching it for a while, why now?) 4)Hansa gets taken down (same scenario) 5)BTCE bro gets arrested 6)Our Senate approves Russian sanctions if this doesnt make a pattern to you, let business insider spell it out: His arrest is the latest in a series of US operations against Russian cyber criminals in Europe. Last week, the US Justice Department moved to shut down the dark web marketplace AlphaBay.
The prosecutions also coincide with intensified scrutiny of Russian hackers after US intelligence officials determined that Russia interfered in the 2016 US presidential election using cyber warfare methods to help Donald Trump, something Moscow denies. Also, hope this doesnt cut down of the user coin total: The US Financial Crimes Enforcement Network is imposing a $110 million (£83 million) penalty on BTC-e, and a $12 million (£9.1 million) fine on Vinnick.
Pretty sure this guy was smart enough to have his coins off exchange, so where is all that fine going to come from? |
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Dear Liqui Team, Apart from a few nice words has nothing happend so far. Please look at ticket #3791 and execute the transaction as promised. I would like to inform the community that my problem has been solved to my fullest satisfaction now. I think, that Liqui.io would gain much more confidence and trust if there were information about the location and the makers in the background... Thanks, Exchange Tester Congrats dude! Im not going to lie, I didnt have high hopes for you LOL. Im still being optimistic they will get to me, but empirically, this usually doesnt end up like that, for me at least. Ive been part of a really tiny support department before; if you need an admin to make an account change, it takes forever sometimes if they get swamped in requests. you had a legitimate issue however, Im kind of at the mercy of their discretion with my situation. Anywho, bravo man, 100 ETH is serious as a heart attack. And good job liqui, you guys are alive in there, LOL. Now come holler at myyyy ticket  |
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Help me guys, I want to get rid of my bully friends but they are my true friends. A while ago I almost cried, my feelings got hurt again they were bullying me and they involved my parents.
if they are really your peeps, you can tell them how you feel about them teasing you. you can always find more friends dude; if these friends are false, they werent really your friends in the first place. i dont believe in bringing peoples relations into teasing, this is how you get shot in some Black circles. Ya'll should have limits on what you can joke on; once you do that, everything else is fair game and teasing is a two way street. if they say some biting shit, bite back if they bitch up, they were hypocrites. dont dish if you cant take; thats bro code thats time tested (im assuming you are a bro). also, fuck those dudes. chase some hot tail. all that bro shit goes out the window when females come into play  |
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The bitcoin market is in deep shit once the general public finds out Lightning Network isn't a valid scaling solution. Sure, it works as a CENTRALIZED scaling solution, but not a decentralized one. Not that the base bitcoin network itself is even decentralized in the first place.
The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent, but on a long enough timeline, dumping bitcoin for silver (while silver is at the floor) is the best move you can make in the long run right now. Sure, some idiot could pump BTC higher, but there is no valid scaling solution, and it's useless without scaling. It's value prospect is also supposed to be based on decentralization, and it's not even decentralized either! There's no god damn fundamentals for it anywhere! It's all just a pump and dump scheme at this point.
I don't get this. BTC doesn't have to be for buying your fucking coffee in the morning. It can be more like the SDR or bank wires. I envision it as a settlement structure for very large transactions. It DOES NOT HAVE TO SCALE! Use sidechains and altcoins to buy your goddamn starbucks...jesus, this isn't that hard folks. Also, as someone with an Ag DCA just over $12 I really don't see current prices as a "floor" Nice product placement for ZeroHedge though, I'll give you that. Bitcoin has ZERO, I repeat, ZERO value as a settlement layer because there already exists far better settlement alternatives - noble metals (gold and silver). This is why currencies were always derivatives of them in the past. Bitcoin has built-in middle men (transaction validators) and counter party risk while metals DO NOT. Bitcoin is a rent seeking usury system where miners expect to get a cut out of every transaction like the mafia while metals ARE NOT. You need to be a complete lunatic to believe bitcoin somehow has better fundamentals as a settlement system than metals. Can you imagine issuing currencies as a derivative of bitcoin when bitcoin is already only a currency and not money in the first place? LOL. For the the 500th time, bitcoin is a currency, not money, which is why it's called "crypto currency". The value of currencies are derived from transaction flow, NOT stock. you seem like a good person to ask. what are your feelings on paper metal vs holding bullion? or better phrased, what is better to you, the liquidity of "token" gold/silver (silver is looking choice, btw) or the certainty of bullion? ive had the bright idea as of late to peg to a certain GLD/BTC orderbook instead of USD/BTC, my usual haunt. im figuring im not going to be subject to the run on Nubits/Tether than happens when the price moves. serious price movement usually unpegs it(Nubits/Tether) from USD, and you may end up buying it at a premium because the demand is so high. im saying all that to say this; want your opinion on if im doing alright using digital gold as a safe haven from bitcoin volatility, or should I just cash out and actually buy some metal, and sit tight. I know ill have more growth potential with the digital gold, due to aforementioned liquidity, but silver/gold are pretty solid. like, bedrock solid. never considered using the alts for "small" commerce. i do it, when I move funds between exchanges (its usually cheaper to covert to DOGE, pay a nothing withdrawal fee, and buy back into my desired coin). had never considered the implications of doing it as a feature, slick idea |
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AMD said that revenue this year is comparable with last year's income. Due to the growing demand for graphics cards they have already earned more than $ 800 million. Shares of AMD have risen in price on 9%. This is a real achievement of bitcoin.
This is not an achievement of bitcoin at the present context because no one uses a graphic card to mine bitcoin,but everyone is stacking up graphic cards to mine alt coins,which is really profitable at the moment and it is really hard to get a good graphic card in the market because of this situation for people who wanted to upgrade their systems as we need to wait for a longer period for specific cards,good for the manufacturers as they are earning big with the sales. i will concur no one is mining bitcoin on a graphics cards but, most of these alts are immediately cashed out for bitcoin, as evidenced by it having the largest market cap. the mining activities on these alternative chains drive the bitcoin economy because they are connected so closely. Bitcoin is like the USD of the crypto world, most things move by a bitcoin pegged standard (this is slowly turning to ETH, but thats a different thread). People are using these coins to experience the mining crazy they missed some years back. People arent holding most of the coins they mine, they get dumped almost as soon as they get acquired. Bitcoin needs those cards to survive just as much as it needs its asics; they are the stepping stone into bitcoin ownership that the monolithic mining associations have denied most of us. |
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Dude, you just made me realize we can have gifs as avatars. Dammit. Anyway, this money is evidence. As this case isnt going to wrap up for at least two years minimum, the funds will sit in a government wallet til they reach a verdict. then important people, businesses and government agencies that can levy fines will have their fill; the rest will be auctioned. MT Gox users wont see a cent of this unless Kraken (I think they are managing the Mt Gox claim) has aggressive lawyers that get out there and try to earmark the funds for the claimants. But the basis of the arrest was that these coins are part of illegal activity, at least some of them. this will be the excuse to drag it out forever, and deny legitimate users their funds. think of the people on silk road that were buying legal shit; they didnt get their money back when it was all said and done. |
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I think most exchanges do not ask for their age. You can also use your father/mother ID
DO NOT MAKE THIS MISTAKE. Take it from me, I used to work at CEX. Its fine for an underage to have bitcoin, at least here. Its property/value; kids can have money all day without breaking any laws. But using a platform is an entirely different beast. The platforms have a liability to protect children from certain content, and prevent them from engaging in activities that might be illegal (say like, trading illegal securities for example). They establish a TOS to protect themselves in this; you usually agree to the terms in order to use the Service. If If you lie about you age, they are under no obligation, legally, to return your funds to you. So if you get locked for a verification check, and you cant provide proper ID, you may not have recourse for obtaining your funds. which brings me to another thing, lying to an exchange about your age/identity. exchanges follow strict aml/kyc law; they must know who you are in order to accept and hold more than X money from a person. when you lie, you make their job harder, and bring them out of compliance if its found they have lax identification policy. so they have little incentive to help you; you lied, they have your money, and you cant do too much to change any of that. Ive seen it happen.  Dont fuck around with this, you will be disappointed eventually. |
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there is a crazily skittish attitude here and memories are non existent. bitcoin was $1000 at the start of the year and it was the greatest thing ever. if it returned to that now they'd freak out.
bitcoin is filled with scared kids. they don't care about anyone else and they can't recall anything beyond last week.
This is why the freaking price looks like a cardiograph it seems to literally be filled with scared, weak handed kid bastards; they also frequent the trollboxes of various exchanges, pumping and decrying various shitcoins most people havent heard about i dont think they will be able to restrict "novice" traders from trading cryptos, due to the nature of the beast, but when we get investment firms coming in and buying, the price will stabilize. Wall Street types arent weak handed by any means; its business and math at that point. we wont see the dumps and pumps because of something someone said on Reddit institutional investors will provide much need liquidity and stability, and make bitcoin a more legitimate investment vehicle in the eyes of the public. we ( the community) have had a lot of bad press as of late |
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Ethereum have been existing before any ICO surfaced on the market. Despite this report on the position of SEC on ICO, we should not worry that much because most of these projects having ICOs are not actually based on USA. Yes, of course, SEC can try to influence or even impose their views on other countries but we should not be afraid of USA anymore as it is MORE TALK AND NO MORE TEETH. Just look at how USA has already been a laughingstock all over the globe (now don't just blame Trump for this as this has been going on for many years).
Ouch bro, that stung, LMFAO  Though I also consider the fact that there is really a need to somehow regulate issuance of ICOs but not thru SEC but an independent body that can do the needed due diligence...principally to minimize scams in the ICO market. Yes, we have to admit it that wherever there is money involved you can be sure that scam artists can be attracted easily and these scammers can wreak havoc a very good industry. As to how best to implement some sort of industry self-regulation that can be something subject for more discussions and even debates.
well, because of the globally long arms of the SEC, even if you are stationed outside of the country, you have a duty to make sure no American investors can participate in your project if its not registered to an official accreditation body. so, this may make non American ICOs raise KYC requirements, to at least know the region the investor/user is coming from for liability reasons. i see this playing out as you will need to start registering with the ICO before you can invest, so they know yo came from an approved region, and your arent trying to launder money. but to be honest, these things were too unregulated to begin with. i agree the sec is claiming a wide jurisdiction in this, but for the good of the entire ecosystem. these are financial products, and unfortunately there are rules in place way before bitcoin, for financial products. it takes away the fun, I know, but this is how we will make the mainstream. by going legit. |
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Can bitcoin take Fiat's place in time? Suppose it does? Can govetment step in and stop this program?
NO government Can not any step for stop this Program. Because Its Depend On Miner Networking If the are stop Mining then its happen. But it not possible. The Government can't take any step for stop it because the don't know any record about bitcoin and the don't know where is setup and where controlling. They may not be able to freeze coins on the blockchain via protocol, but its a government, they can kill you. Pretty easy to just detain you until they get the keys; notice that they always recover the coins whenever they bust up a dark market or catch a scammer/hacker. If it was that easy to ditch the coins and play dumb, they would never recover funds; I would send the coins to another wallet that someone else controls and play stupid until I got out of jail. To prevent this, you will be threatened with enough jail time so that this doesnt seem like a viable option. they can torture you. they can stalk your family. they dont need to hack anything virtual to freeze your coins, they can simply freeze your life |
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People reset every 50 to 100 years on average so with each resetting lessons are forgotten
Mortality is a weakness that said we do have a lot stronger connection to history than we used to now.
So progressing in a relative sense of the term
this is one of the few things Steve Bannon and I agree on you have the truth of it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generational_theoryThe Strauss–Howe generational theory, created by authors William Strauss and Neil Howe, describes a theorized recurring generation cycle in American history. Strauss and Howe laid the groundwork for their theory in their 1991 book Generations, which discusses the history of the United States as a series of generational biographies going back to 1584.[1] In their 1997 book The Fourth Turning, the authors expanded the theory to focus on a fourfold cycle of generational types and recurring mood eras in American history.[2] They have since expanded on the concept in a variety of publications.
The theory was developed to describe the history of the United States, including the 13 colonies and their British antecedents, and this is where the most detailed research has been done.[original research?] However, the authors have also examined generational trends elsewhere in the world and described similar cycles in several developed countries.[3]
Eric Hoover (2009) has called the authors pioneers in a burgeoning industry of consultants, speakers and researchers focused on generations.[4] Academic response to the theory has been mixed—some applauding Strauss and Howe for their "bold and imaginative thesis", and others criticizing the theory.[5][6] Criticism has focused on the lack of rigorous empirical evidence for their claims,[7] and a perception that aspects of the argument gloss over real differences within the population.[6]
The authors describe each turning as lasting about 20–22 years. Four turnings make up a full cycle of about 80 to 90 years,[44] which the authors term a saeculum, after the Latin word meaning both "a long human life" and "a natural century".[45]
Generational change drives the cycle of turnings and determines its periodicity. As each generation ages into the next life phase (and a new social role) society’s mood and behavior fundamentally changes, giving rise to a new turning. Therefore, a symbiotic relationship exists between historical events and generational personas. Historical events shape generations in childhood and young adulthood; then, as parents and leaders in midlife and old age, generations in turn shape history.[46]
Each of the four turnings has a distinct mood that recurs every saeculum. Strauss and Howe describe these turnings as the "seasons of history". At one extreme is the Awakening, which is analogous to summer, and at the other extreme is the Crisis, which is analogous to winter. The turnings in between are transitional seasons, similar to autumn and spring.[47] Strauss and Howe have discussed 26 theorized turnings over 7 saecula in Anglo-American history, from the year 1435 through today.
At the heart of Strauss & Howe's ideas is a basic alternation between two different types of eras, Crises and Awakenings. Both of these are defining eras in which people observe that historic events are radically altering their social environment.[48] Crises are periods marked by major secular upheaval, when society focuses on reorganizing the outer world of institutions and public behavior (they say the last American Crisis was the period spanning the Great Depression and World War II). Awakenings are periods marked by cultural or religious renewal, when society focuses on changing the inner world of values and private behavior (the last American Awakening was the "Consciousness Revolution" of the 1960s and 1970s).[49]
During Crises, great peril provokes a societal consensus, an ethic of personal sacrifice, and strong institutional order. During Awakenings, an ethic of individualism emerges, and the institutional order is attacked by new social ideals and spiritual agendas.[50] According to the authors, about every eighty to ninety years—the length of a long human life—a national Crisis occurs in American society. Roughly halfway to the next Crisis, a cultural Awakening occurs (historically, these have often been called Great Awakenings).[49]
according to this, we are in the Nomad archetype: Nomad generations enter childhood during an Awakening, a time of social ideals and spiritual agendas, when young adults are passionately attacking the established institutional order. Nomads grow up as under-protected children during this Awakening, come of age as alienated, post-Awakening adults, become pragmatic midlife leaders during a Crisis, and age into resilient post-Crisis elders.[57] if this isnt the definition of the current state of affairs, Ill eat my hat. This is the most divided the nation has been since the 60's, for many of the same reasons. we will emerge from this a changed people; what Im saying is something is going to give if we keep going on like this. I know we all want to win, but if we dont make some concessions to each other and soon, there wont be too much left to fight for. I will plainly say I strongly suspect we will see civil rioting on a much larger scale than we have the past few decades, within the next 5 years or so. It will come to a head. Only if we go to war with a monolithic big bad (Russia, Iran, Syria, North Korea) will we be distracted enough to avoid this. I dont know which is the lesser of the two evils. and I mentioned Bannon earlier because he is a proponent of this theory as well: Generation Zero is a 2010 American documentary film written and directed by Steve Bannon, and produced by David N. Bossie for Citizens United Productions.[1][2] The documentary features historian David Kaiser as well as author and amateur historian Neil Howe. In the film, Bannon examines the financial crisis of 2007–2008 in the context of a generational theory by authors William Strauss and Neil Howe.[3][4][5][6] The film describes the 1960s as a time in which young adults turned away from their parents' values, saying they turned their backs on history. The film refers to “seasons of history” and concludes that the damage which was initiated in the 1960s, when young baby boomers turned away from their parents' values, will be undone via war or other great crisis. The period of crisis is referred to as a "turning". In Strauss and Howe's theory, the period of crisis or war is referred to as the “fourth turning”. The film concludes with the line "history is seasonal and winter is coming".[4][1][3][9]
Historian David Kaiser, who was consulted for the film said that it focused on a key aspect of Strauss and Howe's theory: "the idea that every 80 years American history has been marked by a crisis, or 'fourth turning', that destroyed an old order and created a new one”. Bannon, Kaiser states, was "very familiar with Strauss and Howe’s theory of crisis, and has been thinking about how to use it to achieve particular goals for quite a while.” Bannon gets a cookie. He hit a "Winter is Coming" before it was a thing. And boy was he right |
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I dont quite get the bonus distrubution, but my question is, when is the snapshot being taken, precise time? Im holding Tether atm, I would be willing to jump back into ETH to participate in this, but I feel I missed the snapshot already, and thus attaching my wallet would be pointless as the wallet was empty during the snapshot.
Am I understanding it correctly? Or is it that the snapshot is just to establish the average share, and the reward is based on the wallet contents at the end of the ico?
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Trump really wanted to build the wall, but it has come to the realization that it's going to be very expensive now that he has no idea on how to make the Mexicans can pay for the wall. I believe that the wall will be a very good security for the citizens of the USA because most of the Mexicans who come there engage in illegal activities like drugs and murders.
NO they do not. Only a small percentage are criminal, but that small percentage is a big problem, because they freely roam around, back and forth across the border. valid point. should we then embark on a multibillion dollar infrastructure project, which will take years to build, in order to attempt to deter a "small percentage" of immigrants that would be criminals? certainly easier to simply police the border a little harder, a lot harder even ( I shudder to think of the abuses people will suffer at the hands of overzealous border agents). ..... I don't care what makes you shudder. Probably the horrid thought of your fragile little snowflake hitting the ground one day? The border today is essentially a war zone due to the operation of the Mexican cartel gangs. Yes we need the border fence. Thank you for that well researched, well stated reply I got lost reading your flowing response. |
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look good platform with investbox there. but, if you says no support, we just think again.  right? 11 days 6 hours for processing? to long time, just wasting time for waiting. oh, I have soooo much time to waste if it will get my 1.5 ETH back. Im not going anywhere for a while people can not heed my developing experience; when it happens to them, however, empathy will be abound oh, and for the record: Being Processed since 13 days 8 hours |
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Trump really wanted to build the wall, but it has come to the realization that it's going to be very expensive now that he has no idea on how to make the Mexicans can pay for the wall. I believe that the wall will be a very good security for the citizens of the USA because most of the Mexicans who come there engage in illegal activities like drugs and murders.
NO they do not. Only a small percentage are criminal, but that small percentage is a big problem, because they freely roam around, back and forth across the border. valid point. should we then embark on a multibillion dollar infrastructure project, which will take years to build, in order to attempt to deter a "small percentage" of immigrants that would be criminals? certainly easier to simply police the border a little harder, a lot harder even ( I shudder to think of the abuses people will suffer at the hands of overzealous border agents). agents are much cheaper than rebar and government contracted work. seems like sweeping policy change is the answer here, not infrastructure spending. and thats coming from me, so that should say a lot. The rhetoric Trump espoused worked; people that would come here to work and not cause trouble, are scared to come and are preemptively leaving, to avoid being deported. that means, only the bad actors that dont really give a fuck about being deported are the ones that would come, and possibly cause crime. how is a wall going to stop someone like that? the wall is silly. the concept the wall represents is not. but the wall is a red herring, just like locking her up, and draining the swamp. not an attack, I know we butt heads alot. and the wall wont stop drugs so much. Mexican-produced recreational drugs (coke, heroin, some opium, and a bunch of stale ass pot) come over the border via car, on boat, and via the mail system. Its not smart from a business standpoint to simply walk a package of that value across an open, unprotected space that could be compromised by not only border agents, but possibly rival cartels. smart money would hide the drugs, and not compound the misery by attaching them to human smuggling/border violation. hence cocaine submarines, gas tanks full of weed, and shipments of lollipops getting caught in customs with delicious heroin centers. how many licks does it take to get to the middle of a heroin lollipop? you dont have to answer that, im good. |
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Compliance is really the big issue here because we have to protect the potential investors so that they will not be victimized by scam artists who can be using the ICO platform to enrich themselves leaving the investors just holding empty bags. Maybe a self-regulating group or a body can be a big help to advanced the ICO platform.
I agree and very much appreciate self-regulating initiatives like Williams Tokenfilings but besides regulation, I do see big issues on the tax side as well as on future class actions if some (scams or not) ICO projects do not deliver as expected (and the pixie dust is blown away). This then would make foundations a more safe vehicle for token issuance, I guess. Would be great to hear your ideas on how you structured and/or would structure a token issue in your respective jurisdiction. Per the recent SEC guidance, if there is any profit sharing scheme or dividend dispersion attached to the token/coin, it is considered a security and thus cannot be offered as part of a crowdfunding venture attached to a non profit, as non profits cant issue shares. the dudes that are issuing the TribeToken and ACT token may need to rethink their model. it seems the cleanest way to structure this, in my novice eyes, would be to to issue a scrip of sorts; dollars that can be used on the platform for enhanced functionality or to redeem for prizes/rewards that dont have an equivalent fiat value. An example would be the Kin token (if Kik Messenger were a non profit) . The only thing you can do with a Kin token is buy stickers and emoji and stuff like that on the Kik platform. There is no transfer of real value; no way to facilitate money laundering or tax avoidance. this is what crowdfunded game developers do; they offer enhanced functionality or pay for play game perks for early adopters. but, people will not be interested in these as much (ICOs) if they have no profit motive |
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Excellent analysis, I am following this developing news as well and I'm intrigued. Cant say we didnt see this coming though fortunately, it seems a lot of CEOs in the space have at least considered this scenario already, so this should disrupt the ecosphere as little as possible. One thing you didnt address; the position of exchanges in all this. Given that these are now securities (this is a guidance, but I am sure that the SEC will enforce the registration requirement after a few months, its clearly illegal at this point), they will have to register as security exchanges, with a much, much higher level of KYC/AML than they currently practice. Like, they will require socials to trade the security designated tokens, or coins (I can think of a few coins with a profit sharing/dividend feature). Also, have to wonder how this will affect tokens backed by specie. This will deter a lot of the investors that appreciate the privacy and speed of cryptocurrency trading from participating, and restrict those that arent qualified investors from participating in a lot of these ICOs/coins. Inversely, the diligence performed at SEC filing should deter the majority of bad actors/scammers from offering these, cleaning the space up overnight. with that being said, regulation is going to slow everything down to a standstill. its gonna take a few months to get through the red tape; these arent going to pop up as frequently, and I dont think they will be as big anymore. not mad at that, they were centralizing certain cryptos by concentrating them into single entity wallets, rather than wide distribution. thats never good for a market, a natural one at least. people will regret throwing ETH at these things after POS implements, by the way. |
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Isn't i funny that the ones who were sworn to protect the people are the very ones who end up killing them, and it seems that they are always getting away with it which is not very good. But their crimes cannot be compared to what ISIS is doing. But there must be some serious inquiry about how the police force is killing civilians without anything concrete being done to stop it.
In 90% of the cases, the civilians are at the fault. Take the case of Trayvon Martin for example. The guy was clad in a hoodie, and he first attacked George Zimmerman of the neighborhood watch which resulted in him getting shot. Another example is the shooting of Tamir Rice. He was aiming at people with his toy gun, which closely resembled a real weapon. The cops didn't had enough time to check whether his gun was a toy or not. yezzir I had to bite man. so Trayvon should have been shot, by a private citizen, not a cop, for wearing a fucking hoodie? and "first" and "attack" might mean something else than what I thought. Dispatcher: Sanford Police Department. ...
Zimmerman: Hey we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a
real suspicious guy, uh, [near] Retreat View Circle, urn, the best address I can
give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he's up to no good, or
he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking
about.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy is he white, black, or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.
Dispatcher: Did you see what he was wearing?
Zimmerman: Yeah. A dark hoodie, like a grey hoodie, and either jeans or
sweatpants and white tennis shoes. He's [unintelligible], he was just staring...
Dispatcher: OK, he's just walking around the area...
Zimmerman: ...looking at all the houses.
Dispatcher: OK...
Zimmerman: Now he's just staring at me.
Dispatcher: OK— you said it's 1111 Retreat View? Or 111?
Zimmerman: That's the clubhouse...
Dispatcher: That's the clubhouse, do you know what the — he's near the
clubhouse right now?
Zimmerman: Yeah, now he's coming towards me.
Dispatcher: OK.
Zimmerman: He's got his hand in his waistband. And he's a black male.
Dispatcher: How old would you say he looks?
Zimmerman: He's got button on his shirt, late teens.
Dispatcher: Late teens ok.
be careful, you can get shot walking around looking at houses. its a proven fact it crazy, i think its hard to attack someone when you are running way from them. I dont know you, but if im walking through a neighborhood and a fucking truck starts following me, well, I might get a little alarmed. and im 30, not 17. he started running away from Zimmerman. remember, Trayvon is an unarmed 17 year old walking home from the store. He didnt commit any crime other than assault (defending himself) from Zimmerman, and not until Zimmerman forced the interaction, against the wishes and request of law enforcement: Zimmerman: No you go in straight through the entrance and then you make a left...uh
you go straight in, don't turn, and make a left. Shit he's running.
Dispatcher: He's running? Which way is he running?
Zimmerman: Down towards the other entrance to the neighborhood.
Dispatcher: Which entrance is that that he's heading towards?
Zimmerman: The back entrance. ..fucking [unintelligible]
Dispatcher: Are you following him?
Zimmerman: Yeah
Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that.
Zimmerman: Ok
Dispatcher: Alright sir what is your name?
Zimmerman: George. ..He ran.
Dispatcher: Alright George what's your last name?
Zimmerman: Zimmerman
but he had a hoodie on, right? motherfucker had to die, those hoodie dudes are some bad hombres. you must not live in a cold climate alright, moving on to the fucking kid they killed, Rice, a 12 year old. He was aiming at people with his toy gun, which closely resembled a real weapon. The cops didn't had enough time to check whether his gun was a toy or not. Didnt have time to check? Time to shoot a kid, but not enough time to check if the gun he had was real. he certainly got shot with real guns, which is why he is dead fucking meat, but by all means, its ok to shoot a kid waving a toy gun around in a public park. and before you say something about the officers protecting themselves, please know this: The officer fatally shot Tamir Rice less than 2 seconds after exiting his police car.
This is according to the official report from the prosecutor: “Officer Loehman discharged his firearm within two seconds of exiting the car. Officer Loehmann fired two shots, one of which hit Tamir in the abdomen and caused him to fall in the area between the patrol car and the gazebo.”
The officers both claimed to have warned Rice multiple times before firing. None of the witnesses heard any of these “verbal commands.” two seconds. take a deep breath and hold it for those two seconds. one. two. in that time, an officer made a decision to shoot a kid playing in a park twice, once in the stomach and once in the chest. no warning shot, no disabling shot under the waist, no less than lethal alternatives like a taser or mace. bang bang. and i find it hard to believe you can issue multiple commands to "put down the gun" in two seconds. fuck, it takes me a second to comprehend when someone suddenly starts yelling at me. but hey, he probably had on a hoodie too. blow his black ass away i say all that shit to say this; you are the reason why black lives matter. yes, you Mr. Coleman, the blame rests upon you. It is not so much that im upset anymore when shit like this happens; its old hat at this point. cops kill people. they kill black people too, especially poor ones. but what makes me sad is when people like you cant/dont have compassion for peoples kids getting murdered, for no fucking reason. I wont come straight out and label you a racist, but I have to question the motivation for your lack of compassion. Why do both of these kids matter so little to you; why is this miscarriage of justice any less stinging? You seem to be suggesting that these children deserved to be killed. And Zimmerman isnt even a cop. Pray your seed doesnt encounter someone that makes them feel threatened, because of what they are wearing and Im not talking about that goddamned hoodie, im talking about their skin and I want you to respond to this if you respond to nothing else in my post: A woman slapped the back of police squad car just before the fatal police shooting of an unarmed Australian woman in Minneapolis, according to newly released court documents.
The detail came in an application for a search warrant, made public Monday in court documents, from state investigators examining what led to the July 15 shooting of Sydney native Justine Damond, 40.
The fatal incident outraged the public in Australia and Minnesota, and led to the resignation of Minneapolis' police chief. Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull called the shooting "shocking" and "inexplicable."
"Upon police arrival, a female 'slaps' the back of the patrol squad. After that, it is unknown to BCA agents what exactly happened, but the female became deceased in the alley," the court document reads. It does not say whether the woman who slapped the car was Damond.
Damond family attorney Robert Bennett could not be reached to comment on Tuesday. Previously, Bennett had said: "Usually people who call the police in their pajamas are not ambushers."
One responding officer, Matthew Harrity, told investigators he was startled by a loud sound near the patrol car shortly before his partner, Mohamed Noor, fired through the open driver's-side window, striking Damond.
"the female became deceased in the alley". thats an awfully cute way to phrase that; lawyers certainly have a way with words, do they not? a white Australian woman, shot by a Muslim Somali police officer (yezzir, look up Somali born officer Mohamed Noor). Yall hate Muslims on this board for some reason; this is the type of shit that makes Steve Bannon wake up in a cold sweat and clutch his chest in the night She slapped the back of a police cruiser, the horror, and caught a police issued round to the fucking chest. did this poor woman deserve to die? She died for her crime of reporting a rape in her area but i bet this feels unfair to you, when the other two cases dont. ask yourself why that is the case, if so. you might learn something about yourself. Wake up. |
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