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821  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 22, 2023, 02:00:26 AM
Jack Catterall vs Jorge Linares, no knockdown happen, Jack did his best to score but Linares has avoided that knockout. So it's pretty much a chess game all throughout but Jack is clearly winning on points as his left hand always finds it's target.

So the score is all in favour of Catterall: 117-111, and 116-112.

We were expecting that Josh Taylor will give Catterall his chance for a rematch as a domestic rival. But we all know that Taylor chooses to fight Teo Lopez and he was dominated and lost his belt. So there's no more hype of a Catterall and Taylor rematch.

Here are the highlight of the fight, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDt17FsjfW4
822  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Error or scam with Bitcoin ETF news? on: October 22, 2023, 01:35:35 AM
And it's going to be very interesting of someone for Cointelegraph makes a trade out of this news and then makes a lot of money? It's hard to proved though, but if there is one, then obviously this is what we call manipulation at the highest.

But I don't think that someone can be proven guilty and then sent to jail.

Another example though how the state of crypto journalism, this so called crypto outlets, they themselves doesn't have even access or someone rouge inside has accessed to their official account. It means that their security is also poor.

In any case this is what their Post Mortem report says:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/clarification-sharing-false-spot-bitcoin-etf-news
823  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hal Finney was not Satosi Nakamoto on: October 22, 2023, 01:15:36 AM
I think Loop puts effort in proving that Hal Finney is indeed not Satoshi. But how many of us here believed though that Finney=Satoshi? From the very beginning, I doubt that Hal is Satoshi. He might be just one of those individuals who really see what Bitcoin can really do and as a developer he has to interact with Satoshi, mined Bitcoin and other contributions he had did in the past.

And most likely this article will be added to the annals of Bitcoin history.
824  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Flash Bitcoins r not a threat? on: October 21, 2023, 11:00:07 AM
I heard flash bitcoins (Fake bitcoins) are circulating.
They disappear after 90 days.

Now if these do exist, crypto market will crash!

Anyone see this as a threat?
Everyone denying?

Should I Short BTC on the long run?

Any information is appreciated.

Thanks Wink

There's no such thing as a chain of disappearing transactions in BTC. And it you heard something about it, most likely it's a scam.

Although there is a good discussion about a Fake walle.dat can trick bitcoin core client?.

So to answer the question is it a threat? No.

The best advise is that continue to accumulate we are getting to the block halving, and next year could be the start of a massive bull run. Better be ready.
825  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Stevenson vs De Los Santos - Nov 16 on: October 21, 2023, 10:24:11 AM
I might be seeing another Crawford vs Spence fight. Shakur likes to play like Crawford, while for me De los Santos fights like Spence. So it's a copy fight and we all know how it ended. De los Santos is a good boxer with power, but Shakur will figure it out how to beat him, and uses his boxing IQ. So maybe it's going to be +7.5 rounds, with Shakur winning by KO/TKO. But still though, this is a great fight and we will see Shakurs skills and technique.

This is a different kind of fight – a champion versus a non-champion. That bout between Spence and Crawford was an undisputed fight, while in this case, Shakur isn't facing a world champion. So, I'm not setting my expectations too high for this one. It seems like it could be more of a tune-up fight for Shakur.

Maybe a little similar in the way that De Los Santos has to be the aggressor here and try hard to land his big shots on Shakur. Shakur is the one to use his footwork to stay away from engaging and use his skills to hit and not get hit.

Yes, it could be that scenario that Edwin will try to go and make Shakur not comfortable in the becoming. So he could be the aggressor and try to test how good Shakur are, specially avoiding that power of De Los Santos early. Or if he is hit, then how he will react, he has proven his chin so far, but we are now sure if the power of a natural 135 lbs can have a effect of him.

But in terms of experience, Shakur might be fighting only the 2nd time in this division but the experience difference is just too wide. Shakur is a silver medalist in the Olympics, a 2 division champion, a 1-time lineal champ, and a unified champion. While he is a regular 135 fighter, this is the first time De Los Santos is fighting a 12-round event let alone his first championship fight.

No doubt about it, in terms of experience, Shakur has the advantage as he faces a lot of great boxers as well in the past. And the weight though, it seems that he is very comfortable now at 135 lbs, no more weight training and I think it will have a positive effect on him.

And with that, I'm expecting a great win by Shakur to cemented his position as the best 135 lbs, next to Devin Haney, on the strength that Haney is the undisputed champion at this weight class.
826  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: October 21, 2023, 10:10:29 AM
Tsitsipas v Hanfmann
Tsitsipas has been out of form for a while and he stopped the bad run with a win against Van De Zandschlup. Today he has a more serious match against Hanfmann. Hanfmann played a long 3-set match against Thiem and this is in Tsitsipas' favor. Still, Tsitsipas is not very confident this season and even if he wins, it could be a long match.
He is a great player but seems to have difficulty showing his greatness so some tournaments can only last a few rounds, if he can win and get to the final and can be champion it is actually normal because he also did it at the ATP 250 Los Cabos and it looks like it will be a second title for this year.
Tsitsipas has changed his coach several times and recently he has done it again while still having his father as one of his team. We will see whether the change in coach will make a difference to his career, as well as Holger Rune who is no longer with Patrick Mouratoglou and now he has appointed Boris Becker as the coach because he was quite disappointed with the results he got this year.
Boris Becker has quite a tough task because at the end of October, there will be the Paris Masters where Rune is the defending champion. If he hasn't found his best form, the title will be lost and many young players will have difficulty defending the title.

Yeah, and it seems that Tsitsipas won against Hanfmann,



https://twitter.com/atptour/status/1715436948876153211

I haven't follow my tennis for months now, however, there could be some members here who knows that I'm a big fan of Tsitsipas way before he really had a break out performance like years ago. However, I will have to agree as a big fan of his that he hasn't reach his full potential, or maybe did peak already and now he can't pass that stage to become great as there are players that have over took him recently.

He could still be in the hunt at year's end bid to return to the Nitto ATP Finals.
827  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on staying responsible. on: October 21, 2023, 09:21:09 AM
The best advice for gambling responsibly is to develop good habits. Many gamblers forget that gambling should be for enjoyment. When you gamble, it's important to know when to stop, keep track of your bets and losses. I've witnessed situations where people lose a significant amount of money but refuse to quit and keep playing. Is this bravery or foolishness? In the end, they tarnish the reputation of responsible gamblers. If you choose to gamble, do it responsibly.

To a certain extent yeah, just gamble and have some fun. But just imagine this, if you go to land base casino for example, you see a lot of gamblers playing slots of card games, what do you think is the percentage of them playing and just want to be entertained? Right, majority of them wanted to go and win some money too and just just losing every time just for the sake of having some fun of whatnot. I don't believed that if you continue to lost some money, specially big ones, that you are happy and not be affected mentally by the money that you are losing. I'm just calling it how I see it, this is not an attack or something who says that "they go for it just for entertainment". The only way to stop gambling is to not really stepping on a land based casinos or try playing online. Because sooner or later you are going to be hooked on, admit it or not.
828  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever heard about financing a gambler? on: October 19, 2023, 02:36:25 AM
The fact that gambling is involved, I don’t think he can be trusted when it comes to money matters. Although it’s okay if he will really use the money for good purposes, but when it comes to gambling using borrowed money, then never expect that he will still be able to repay you or even pay a portion of it.

However, I have never experienced financing a gambler ever since. And if it’s going to happen in the future, for sure I will never ride with it. I am a regular gambler so I know eventually the winning rate vs the losing rate. And most of the time, gamblers often lose so while the house is always the winner.

I definitely think that when it comes to gambling and lending money we shouldn't trust our friend who asks us to finance them because even if this person is our very close friend, we don't know or cannot predict whether they will be able to repay their debt if they loses that money. If this person is going to cover his/her personal expenses in exchange for borrowed money they will most likely pay the debt at as soon as possible but there is no guarantee that they will pay back if they loses money in gambling.

Exactly, even if it is a friend of ours though, we shouldn't trust anyone if we speak about finance and money. I will tell you a story about a big whale that I know if a land based casinos here. He is so trustful, if there is a word for that. I mean since he has a lot of money, he would simply trust anyone to hold that money for him. And there was this news that he entrusted someone, maybe he was a friend or very close to him. To withdraw his winning inside the land base casino. It was a huge amount of money. Unfortunately, the supposedly person withdraw that but didn't give the money to the whale and disappear. Now he is being hunted and there were appropriate court cases against that guy. Moral lesson is that trust is very subjective, and as far as money goes, everyone is tempted.
829  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: October 18, 2023, 09:49:59 AM
In other words, from time to time we will analyze our position and our assets and we might even start to determine that we can change our strategy because we have accumulated enough BTC... whether that happens in 1-2 years or maybe it takes 15 years to 20 years, this will vary from person to person regarding how long it might take for the person to start to consider that s/he has enough and s/he can transition from accumulation stage to maintenance stage. and sure maybe the transition will not be 100% clear because even if someone is in maintenance stage they still might accumulate BTC from time to time, but not be so concerned about accumulation because overall such person has determined that s/he has gotten enough bitcoin.
Am being inquisitive right now. So your saying that there might be a time when one feels he has accumulated enough bitcoin and would decide to only maintain the Bitcoin  he has accumulated. I am aware of people saying that accumulating Bitcoin has been an obsession to them irrespective of the amount of Bitcoin they have they still accumulate as much of it as possible since they have the money to put it in. Assuming someone is obsessed is it something that is wrong or it is good especially in this present time?
If only I could Pm so you teach me your ways  Smiley

Others might have a certain target though, let's say 1 BTC as this is what everyone is aiming to be a member of 1 BTC club. And for starter this is going to be very hard to accomplished, but for those who have been doing it for years, thru DCA and whatever strategy suit them, they could have been saving more than that. If you are interested, you can see it here:


https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html

So you can see where you at right now as far as accumulating BTC. And I will agree that it's a never ending quest to acquire it. We might be selling at some point, but for sure you will want to get it back as soon as you can. I wouldn't say it's an obsession though, you still have to look at it as an asset that you will have to make some profits later.
830  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: October 18, 2023, 03:06:17 AM
When I first got into bitcoin, I was actually buying every week with my set budget and also trying to find dips within the week in order to maximize my BTC buys for each of the weeks within my set budget for each of the weeks, but most people are not that passionate, and they might well be better off by not being passionate, and just exercising "set it and forget it" so after a year or two, they look at their investment rather than watching it every week like I had been doing and maybe many of the active forum members are willing to do... but normies do not necessarily want to be very active in terms of their BTC investment and that is one of the reasons why DCA can be so powerful for normies who do not want to study or watch their investment with any kind of particularity.
Actually this was the same kind of buying strategy or rather method by brother normally use for accumulation of Bitcoin, what he does was that he will have a targeted amount of Bitcoin to be accumulated within a month and with the strategy of watching the market all the time to buy from any little dip he sees so that's the kind of strategy he normally use, according to him he said the method allows him to minimize the amount of money used in accumulating Bitcoin.

It will really work, you can have to find the grind to do it every week or even every month. But for those who doesn't have that patience, they might as well implore the strategy of buying in just one lump sum, and just leave it in their wallet, forget about it and just comeback when we are in the bull run. So it really depends on each individual. But relatively, I will also used the DCA method, I mean I have been using ever since and it has work perfectly, at least in my case and most likely those old timers here (as opposed to JayJuanGee term of normies).

What I understand from this method is that it has to do with a lot of patient and consistently watching the market in other to have a good entry,  so is very stressful method and I can't imagine myself using that strategy but however irrespective of the little advantage it may have but it can never be compared with DCA method, because it allows you to set a target and hit it without considering the price movement.

True, but once you get over it (my secret is that I look for the long term goal), it's going to be easy and smooth ride and then after a year or two it will be just like regular, clockwork for you to invest and do DCA without you feeling as if it is being force on you. Of course, there will be weeks that you might not able to buy because of some contraints, but still you can go back and start all over again and continue where you left behind.
831  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 18, 2023, 02:04:00 AM
It's a huge accusation.
Regis Prograis Says Devin Haney Paid To Remove Loss On His Record
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Regis Prograis says he heard that Devin Haney paid to have a loss removed from his record earlier in his career when he was fighting in Mexico. Fans on social media don’t want to believe that their lionheart, Haney, paid to erase a loss, but that could be an example of people putting their heads in the sand to ignore the unpleasant truth.
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/10/regis-prograis-says-devin-haney-paid-to-remove-loss-on-his-record/
For now, it's a gossip. He "heard" it.
I've read that having 0 loss is a good thing because of the money that will come in. But if fans of Devin Haney do love him then it should not change anything. Although it may put a crack on his reputation if proven true. Whoever is handling the records must also be sued if he is really taking money from boxers who like to keep their record clean.
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Having an unbeaten record in this era is important because it likely means more money, and it helps a fighter’s career. Once they get a loss, they’re looked at differently by fans. Canelo Alvarez is an exception, but he’s someone with a massive following.
That might be true. Ryan Garcia is a good example of it. Suddenly the hype about him is gone and I don't think whoever he challenges will accept a contract where Garcia will take a bigger portion of it after his loss against Davis, and worse a KO liver punch.
I think Manny Pacquiao in his era is also an exception because he may have lost a lot of fights but because of the record that he broke he should be paid more than other boxers.
This kind of things just depends on how popular the boxer is, for starters though a loss will hurt their slice of the cake.

Yes, I read this accusations by Regis. But Haney says that the insinuation came from the camp of Rolly Romero (another 140 lbs champion). But then again this is just a rumor and nothing can be proven here. There's even speculation that Canelo also go this route early in his career as he suffer a lot but then we don't see it in his records.

I'm not sure about unbeaten records though, Loma for once have a questionable L in the beginning of his career. But he bounce back and become a champion and one of the best. But even after a lost against Teo Lopez, he bounce back again. The problem with Ryan is mental though, we all know that he has the potential to be a great champion, however, it seems that he is more on a social media type guy and wanted to take advantage of his popularity and just looking for bigger purse. He will have his comeback fight though, so we will see what's next for him at 140 lbs.
832  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: US SEC does not plan to appeal court decision on Grayscale bitcoin ETF on: October 18, 2023, 01:29:29 AM
I heard they're trying to launch an appeal against Grayscale? Or was it against the Ripple Labs verdict?

I think it was the case against Ripple, here's the official documents: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.551082/gov.uscourts.nysd.551082.915.0.pdf

Whichever one it was, it just shows how spineless the SEC is when they get served a decision that they do not like. Now on the crypto side of things, how long do you guys thing it will take for the Grayscale Bitcoin ETFs to hit the market? A few months? A year? Maybe two years?

The pressure is now on the side of SEC, not just legal but perhaps political pressure. We have seen him in Congress already and majority of the Congressman is not on the side of Gensler. So if everything goes on schedule maybe next year we might see the long awaited Bitcoin ETF because SEC doesn't have a choice.
833  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Misleading Report on SEC Decision Shakes Bitcoin Market on: October 17, 2023, 11:35:55 AM
On Monday, the crypto-focused media outlet Cointelegraph disseminated false information via social media platform X and its Telegram channel, triggering a more than 10% spike in bitcoin (BTC) value against the U.S. dollar.
The digital currency briefly touched $29,900 per coin before plunging to $28,100 per unit once the news was debunked. Cointelegraph, despite issuing an apology, was too late to prevent the market upheaval that resulted in the obliteration of $78.92 million worth of short positions.source

Quoting for reference.

Yeah, it's a fake news as what we say, but the good news is that the price really went up, and so far we are at $28,4xxx. So it really put a spike on the price, and it seems that it has sustained the run despite it being exposed as not so true news.

Clearly, this is some form of manipulations from big entities, so in this market that we live in, "bad publicity is still publicity'". And I think this is the nature of crypto related media though, news are not verified and they are put up for click bait.
834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING]Adrien Broner vs Chris Howard (Welterweight) Nov 4. . on: October 17, 2023, 10:45:17 AM
There’s been a change in the schedule. The fight between Adrien Broner and Chris Howard, which was originally set for November 4th, has been moved to December 2nd. This fight is scheduled for 10 rounds in the Welterweight division.

I think Broner's ranking at 15 in the Welterweight division under WBC shows that he still has potential.

https://www.boxingscene.com/adrien-broner-vs-chris-howard-pushed-back-december-2--178511


There's only one reason why this fight was moved if I may speculate. I'm sure the promoters weren't able to meet his expectations in terms of ticket sales and anything else related to the fight's revenue. This isn't a very popular fight, although I must say that Broner is quite popular, but it's not a championship fight, so it's not expected to generate a lot of money.

Regarding this kind of fight, I'm not sure if it will proceed since it has already been moved. Worse, it might even be canceled, as it hasn't gained much attention from boxing enthusiasts. This could put Broner's finances in jeopardy, especially if the rumors about him living paycheck to paycheck in boxing are true.

Yes, most likely this is the case, as we all know that Broner doesn't have the hype anymore and obviously his opponent? We don't know him really. So it's a good move for the promoters, or maybe it will be good if this could be in some undercard, so that there will be exposure.

But in any case that the promoters are going to make this a stand alone fight, might be difficult to make money. Unless they really low ball both of this fighters to accept the fight with small money.
835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Some gambling questions. on: October 17, 2023, 09:57:04 AM
Some gambling questions I want to ask please answer.

How many percent of signature earnings you gamble away?
My salaries 5%.

I can only speculate, I will say 100% of those signature campaigns payment could be going to gambling. There are some sig campaign that pays directly to the participants wallet in the gambling site. So you will be tempted to play for it before you withdraw to your own wallet.

Do you prefer Fiat or crypto at a display currency?
I use fiat.

No, majority here prefers crypto, specially Bitcoin.

What is your favorite game you play all the time?
Mine Mines.

A lot, slot games, sports betting, roulette, baccarat.

Are you a responsible gambler?
yes.

Of course,  I don't think the anyone here will tell that they are not responsible gambler.
836  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Warning]: Scam/Fake Binance Word of the Day (WOTD) on: October 17, 2023, 09:18:46 AM
Unfortunately it seems that the numbers is on the rise again, as there are a lot of phishing sites being created day by date. And if one sites goes down because of crypto enthusiast reporting it, another one will pop up.

And maybe the problem lies to this domain registrar though as they are very relax in accepting anyone.

So everyone, we need to just be on the look out. And then report it right away if we find some phishing sites. And don't trust Google if we wanted to search about crypto related things.
837  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casino Junket Operator on: October 17, 2023, 01:35:14 AM
I’m still confused what’s their main purpose but they are the one who partner with the casino to lure VIP players in the form luxurious offer such as accommodation and travel trips just to make them play in the casino. In return, they will get profit sharing on the total amount spend by their recruits. Casino junket counter part in online casino are those Gambling review sites and other that offers extra rewards such as free spin or other form of rewards which they are paying from their own pocket when player sign up using their referral link.

Since this people get paid for what they offer, we cannot blame them because everyone is looking for a survival means, the same way the promoters and influencers work hard to pull traffic for a casino, junkers are also doing their job and make survival in doing this professional works, all this are what constitutes the varieties of gambling opportunities for the people to utilize them for their own benefits, how we now engage with this offers will determine whether it will be in an acceptable manner or not.

But the thing is that those legitimate junkets has some other narrative behind, they just hide everything of being a junket, but the real purpose might be using it to get a lot of big money players to get investments which turns out to be a scam.

And it was reported that the perpetuators of his crimes flies to Japan already to hide. And from what I understand, the defend themselves by saying that everything is legit. Of course it is, because they just uses the casino as front for their operations. Hopefully this people are going to be arrested and suffer and put to the jail because for sure the money has bee used already by this 2 people.
838  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SEC does not plan to appeal court decision on Grayscale bitcoin ETF on: October 16, 2023, 11:09:16 AM
According to this report, SEC is not going to appeal about the recent ruling that they, SEC was found to be wrong in rejecting the application of Grayscale to create a spot Bitcoin ETF.

What else should we expect, should the court decision be a superior to the SEC decision over the approval for spot bitcoin ETF application or not, do Greyscale have to go this extra miles, despite the fame and global recognition they already have, i don't think that SEC need to make an appeal as well in this regard, they are only doing their own job with their reasons for non approval, Greyscale will not be the first to be rejected neither will it be the last.

I think you didn't get the point, the District of Columbia Court of Appeals in Washington ruled that SEC was wrong when they rejected Grayscale’s proposed bitcoin ETF. The court ruling didn't say that SEC should approved the application of Grayscale for a Bitcoin Spot ETF. They are not doing their job though, if they did, then they should have approved it already. But they keep on denying it that's why Grayscale has to challenge it.

Here's the full list of Spot Bitcoin ETF Applications if anyone is interested:


https://beincrypto.com/full-list-spot-bitcoin-etf-applications-deadlines/
839  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Oguni - October 12 on: October 16, 2023, 07:03:02 AM
Yes, and Tapales already gave a warning to Inoue already, ‘I’ll be your biggest nightmare’.


Tapales is trying to be like Casimero. The guy has some confidence to say to Inoue that he is his biggest nightmare. He can say anything he wants, but I'm hoping he'll back it up with his performance. I don't want to see a boxer who's no different from Inoue's past opponents, who were afraid to engage and fought just to survive.

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So let's see what's next for Casimero and how his Japanese promoter will do to his career because it's not really moving forward in the super bantamweight division.

The outcome of the fight doesn't benefit him. It ended in a DRAW, but it's not just the outcome that concerns us; it's how he handled the fight and how he appeared to gas out early. It's not a good sign for him, and I think Inoue could decline his challenge, saying he's not on his level.

I wouldn't say Tapales is trying to be Casimero or what. We haven't seen him being brandish in the ring or something, perhaps he just want to show that he is confident in his abilities and not afraid of the Monster.

And this is what I have been saying about Casimero: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL_f0RZGeiQ

He might end up with nothing if he stops fighting because he just give his money away and this the problem not just with Casimero. All other boxers in the past lost their money this way. Didn't save some for them and in the end, all those that they help disappear.

840  Economy / Gambling / Re: COINS.GAME | THE MOST REWARDING CRYPTO CASINO | SPORTSBOOK & CASINO on: October 16, 2023, 04:08:22 AM
@xLays - who knows? maybe I will join in, but I'm more into sports betting though, but let's see. And I don't want to ruined that you guys had, so I will just stay in the background and most likely be just a spectator,  Grin.

And so I might try their sports later and see how it goes for me, not a cricketer though.

So goodluck to everyone.
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