Hello what do you think about iota 's supply? With that big ammount of coin how can this even make a x5? I think it's impossible to get value even in the remote case it could be a succsessfull project, because the total coin supply is too much.
What do you think about this consideration?
What is the market for microtransactions? For machine-to-machine transactions? Smart contracts? I would put that at trillions, so a lot of room to move, even if it doesn't capture the majority of the market. I think your analysis is based on greater fool's logic, which is simply how many greater fools do I think will latch onto this project in a pump--by that logic, anything in the top ten doesn't look appealing. |
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if you look for a good privacy coin you should go and look for DeepOnion. DeepOnion is a strong coin with a good community. The transactions of this coin can be made via the darkweb, so nobody could trace your transaction. It's worth trying, just take a look at the website.
All coins can be used on the darkweb. IP data is NOT transactional data. You can hide your IP and still leak transactional data and vice versa--for whatever reason, verge started conflating ip and transactional data and some in the speculation community fell for it--it's moronic and annoying, and if you are dumb enough to buy drugs with one of these shitcoins, you deserve to go to jail. AGAIN, hiding your ip does nothing to hide your transaction--if it did, Bitcoin would have been private from the start. |
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It will be interesting to see how this bch pump ends. Not going to predict that money gets funneled into alts (or the only one more cash than btc cash), so I won't.
I can't see BCH going away, it's now basically the only fork, Jihan is not selling his mined stash in order to prop it up and (to some extent) it is a little bit of 'black swan event' insurance if Segwit / Lightning - or even scaling prove to be an issue down the line. Core has won, for now - but having a few BCH must look worthwhile to some... I would be taking advantage of the pump, rather than doubling down on a poor man's digital cash, but that's me. |
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It will be interesting to see how this bch pump ends. Not going to predict that money gets funneled into alts (or the only one more cash than btc cash), so I won't.
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I asked you to provide evidence that DAG's do not need to be bootstrapped. If you don't have it, just say so--no need to deflect. I said my usecase for decentralization, not sure why that's unacceptable to you, but it's acceptable to me  It's not decentralized. You're making the assertion that it has to be centralized. That's the antithesis of the entire concept of cryptocurrency. The usecase of the coin, as they say, is for IOT. That idea is idiotic, and everyone knows it. My light bulbs don't need a cryptocurrency. Autonomous cars need to pay for electricity and atm, they don't need that transaction to be decentralized. So we're good on both fronts, thanks for helping me validate my points. I appreciate the effort |
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IOTA's tech is shit, their crypto is shit, their devs are prima donnas who can't write code, and the entire thing is totally centrally controlled.
Not to mention the fact that their entire market has no blockchain use case whatsoever.
Tell me again why anyone would put any money into this shitshow?
Tangle is shit? How? It scales and is feeless--that's a usecase. I'm not a fan of centralization, but manufactures don't have a problem with it, and if they do relinquish control after the bootstrap period, I have no problem with it--monero is cash, so I don't need iota to be antifragile in the face of regulation. Good luck with your anger mgt, you seem to go emotional ad hominem with your dev analysis. "Tangle" doesn't work, which is why it has to be centralized. The entire concept of crypto currency was to eliminate the central control. But I'm more concerned with the fact the devs wrote their own broken crypto, deployed it, and then when called on it pretended that they did it on purpose to break anything that copied from them. That's in direct violation of the spirit of the open source movement from day 1. Also they had to write a whole new number system because apparently they think binary isn't good enough. That's rock bottom stupid. There's no anger here, merely analysis. AFAIK DAG's work and need to be centralized in the bootstrap period. I've read nothing to disprove that, have you? I'm not going to argue the politics of the decentralized spirit. I have that in my cash in the form of monero. I personally have no use for machine to machine transactions, so don't care if it is centralized in its early phase--my only question is whether it survives the early phase and does the scaffolding come down once it reaches that phase. In the meantime I am watching the manufacturer's response--the ones who have the usecase--and that has been positive. Do they? Can you prove it? If you don't want to argue, and obviously can't argue the points I made, why bother responding? I asked you to provide evidence that DAG's do not need to be bootstrapped. If you don't have it, just say so--no need to deflect. I said my usecase for decentralization, not sure why that's unacceptable to you, but it's acceptable to me |
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IOTA's tech is shit, their crypto is shit, their devs are prima donnas who can't write code, and the entire thing is totally centrally controlled.
Not to mention the fact that their entire market has no blockchain use case whatsoever.
Tell me again why anyone would put any money into this shitshow?
Tangle is shit? How? It scales and is feeless--that's a usecase. I'm not a fan of centralization, but manufactures don't have a problem with it, and if they do relinquish control after the bootstrap period, I have no problem with it--monero is cash, so I don't need iota to be antifragile in the face of regulation. Good luck with your anger mgt, you seem to go emotional ad hominem with your dev analysis. "Tangle" doesn't work, which is why it has to be centralized. The entire concept of crypto currency was to eliminate the central control. But I'm more concerned with the fact the devs wrote their own broken crypto, deployed it, and then when called on it pretended that they did it on purpose to break anything that copied from them. That's in direct violation of the spirit of the open source movement from day 1. Also they had to write a whole new number system because apparently they think binary isn't good enough. That's rock bottom stupid. There's no anger here, merely analysis. AFAIK DAG's work and need to be centralized in the bootstrap period. I've read nothing to disprove that, have you? I'm not going to argue the politics of the decentralized spirit. I have that in my cash in the form of monero. I personally have no use for machine to machine transactions, so don't care if it is centralized in its early phase--my only question is whether it survives the early phase and does the scaffolding come down once it reaches that phase. In the meantime I am watching the manufacturer's response--the ones who have the usecase--and that has been positive. |
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IOTA's tech is shit, their crypto is shit, their devs are prima donnas who can't write code, and the entire thing is totally centrally controlled.
Not to mention the fact that their entire market has no blockchain use case whatsoever.
Tell me again why anyone would put any money into this shitshow?
Tangle is shit? How? It scales and is feeless--that's a usecase. I'm not a fan of centralization, but manufactures don't have a problem with it, and if they do relinquish control after the bootstrap period, I have no problem with it--monero is cash, so I don't need iota to be antifragile in the face of regulation. Good luck with your anger mgt, you seem to go emotional ad hominem with your dev analysis. |
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Its not so much of a good token to invest with when there is no proper documentation, I was lost with all the information scrambled with fud while half of it are true especially the funds getting lost in the wallets of the holders. What IOTA needs is a massive dump just as how they did before, its the top no 4 back on the days but now on the 10th.
I agree with you. the companies are not interstead ino the coin itself, but into the sensors. Better projects will come in the future and will overtake iota. I am personally waiting for a project which does the same as IOTa, but better, cause I have lost the faith on this project. Too many bad things I have heard about it. Sensors? It's software, there are no sensors. I suggest you research your fud. |
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What about Monero's integration? Are they partnering with anyone? I think that would give some trust back to the coin and people might get again more interested in investing in.
Anyone is free to use Monero. Or even develop it. They can even hard fork it, but as long as they keep the fork opensource. Electroneum might have troubles here. My opinion is that ZCash as a private company cant compete with Monero culture. It's like ZCash is to Windows, and Monero to Unix/Linux.  I always like that comparison because the people who get it, get it. |
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I like Monero but really, it can hardly keep up with the rest of the coins. Have a look at Zcash, there is a reason it's worth half a billion and money only a fifth of that. They (Zcash) have consistently offered solutions to the market that were not available before and they are by far the most innovative in that privacy sector. What is important to consider as well is the team that takes over these kind of upgrades. Zcash has a very experienced team which solution is being implemented by major financial institutions and now by Ethereum itself! That's a big thing. What about Monero's integration? Are they partnering with anyone? I think that would give some trust back to the coin and people might get again more interested in investing in.
I have a hard time trusting corporations in general, let alone running sensitive networks where the goal is privacy. You can look at how many shielded transactions are on Zcash's network to see how the community feels about Zcash's chances at delivering privacy. The corporate model doesn't work for things like TOR, I2p or even operating systems (at least for those who know what the fuck they're doing). You're probably right for the majority of people, but the majority of people don't have to secure millions (or even billions), the people who have those sorts of demands will do their homework, or at least know who to hire if they can't check themselves. |
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This is really Promising and a Great Huge project and i guess 2019 is the starting skyrocket of IOTA to the moon IMHO!  2019?? It's a crypto! Nobody will wait until 2019 to get some profit! 2019 is like looking at the next century when it comes to Crypto. I think IOTA is overpriced alleady. Its number 10 in marketcaps. 2 billion coins with price of 8000 satoshi? That is expensive. There is no room to grow. What is the market for microtransactions in your estimate? Does iota have other uses? The room to grow is based on use case and speculation, so not sure how you know if something is overpriced unless you analyze those specifics. |
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Bitcoin rising
InB4 NoMore
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genocide
 "Asking 'What good is privacy?' if you have nothing to hide is like asking 'What good is free speech?' when you have nothing to say." If you think the fundamental human right to privacy is important enough to kill or die for then you should certainly be willing to get rich for it. (That would include anyone who took an oath to defend the Constitution of the U.S. from all enemies, foreign and domestic.) Most guys will figure out they have things they want to keep private, or their wife's divorce attorney will figure it out for them  |
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If you want risto back, feel free to pay his debt. You can start with my 200K in euro.
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do we have any speculation on how many coins the biggest fish in the monero sea holds?
100k? 300k? do we think anyone out there has a million xmr?
disclaimer: i know it's more than me.
700k was the highest I know of--though those were lost at sea in a hack. I've never heard of anyone having 700k. I'd guess the largest (individual) holder has under 500k XMR. Probably even less. Remember at one point XMR was under 25 cents. 700k would not have been a particularly large position for even a moderately high net worth individual. I have a hard time believing such a claim, because his activity coincided with a very low volume period in Monero's history. Acquiring that many coins would have caused a much greater price (and risk) increase, which I imagine would defeat the purpose of owning such an amount in the first place. He's probably exaggerating his holdings by at least a factor of 2. @smooth: I'm not questioning the possibility as much as I'm questioning the reasoning/motive during that time. There wasn't exactly a huge amount of confidence during the 25 cent era. Risto has always been enthusiastic and vocal about Monero and has never been one to need prompting from the herd to support his opinions, so while I may doubt the hack, I don't doubt the amount--what's great is we'll never know |
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do we have any speculation on how many coins the biggest fish in the monero sea holds?
100k? 300k? do we think anyone out there has a million xmr?
disclaimer: i know it's more than me.
700k was the highest I know of--though those were lost at sea in a hack. I've never heard of anyone having 700k. I'd guess the largest (individual) holder has under 500k XMR. Probably even less. Risto's claimed amount that was stolen from him. |
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