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9121  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: February 21, 2021, 05:56:16 PM
zuckerbergs video was july 2020...
before any of the vaccines went into phase 3 trials

yep NO-ONE knew back then.
catch up. its now feb 2021. people now know

whats next
find video footage of people saying when they are teenagers that they dont know how to look after kids.. and then try to file court cases 20 years later when their kids they eventually have, turn teenager. and you claim that the kids parents are abusive/neglectful because you have proof the parents said they dont now how to look after kids.

knowing you. you would do such a thing. not realising that as time passes.. people learn
.. so try to learn.
actually first. learn that time passes..
stop staying in the past of 8 month prior.
im glad you might be moving out of your feb-march2020 circle. but dont hang around july2020 thinking that will give you insight into current vaccines.
try to stay uptodate its february 2021.. catch up
9122  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? on: February 21, 2021, 05:50:05 PM
i think that tvbcof fault is that he is on auto-pilot.
he is soo drawn into and just believes things if it comes with a 'believe me coz certified' that it drives him crazy if things dont come with certification.

he is not interested in researching the actual context of stuff ,or double checking thing that come with his beloved certification. he just wants the certification so that he can trust it.. blindly

another fault that occurs about 50% of the time is what i call 'spoonfed' where its not actually independent research but being fed something.

yep tvbcof is a 100% 'certified believer'. and wont then check the facts if that person mentions they have credentials.
and thats why he is crying. because he doesnt like doing research and just wants someone to hand him the answers, or blame a certified person if the answer tvbcof repeat are found out to be wrong after tvbcof has repeated them.,

when someone comes along and doesnt mention credentials or doesnt spoonfeed, tvbcof would rather waste 2 hours arguing his anger that there are no sources/credentials linked.. rather than spend 2 hours actually researching the context.

he is just 2 steps away from becoming badecker
9123  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Investing is a question of guts on: February 21, 2021, 10:57:18 AM
..
EG
investing in your retirement by putting 6.5% of your income into a retirement investment is not something that need guts or bravery.

Once you have done that for a few years, the sum starts to become something significant and it requieres a cold head to keep up investing.

nah. its just doing your job. the 'investment' is automated as its part of your employment contract you have.
..
as for other investments/gambles.. once you can calculate your risk. and use logic to calculate your risk exposure/value you willing to put in.
then its not guts.
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i just made another post where you can calculate your bitcoin buying risk by knowing how much the price is inflated by speculation vs the underlying bitcoin value/cost. then its just logic of knowing 'buy low sell high' and avoid taking gutsy risk of 'buying high hope for higher'
patients, logic and thought can help more then 'gutsy gambles'
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318563.msg56403118#msg56403118

if you can teach yourself to only buy when the value-price spread is under 30% its no longer a gut feeling needed to decide when to do trades
9124  Other / Serious discussion / Re: How do you predict the market? on: February 21, 2021, 10:50:14 AM
no one can predict the market high point. or correction dip date. but you can access how wild a market currently is to indicate if the speculation is becoming too much for it to not last

work out the mining cost. and call that the VALUE. and then look at the bitcoin price and see how much the difference is

at the moment the ~halfmonthly intervals for the previous 3 months show
              dec1      dec15      jan1       jan15      feb1       feb15
value    $16000   $17000   $18000   $19000   $20000   $21000
price     $19700   $19200   $29000   $39000   $34000   $48000
               23%      12%        61%      105%      70%       128%

i know some people think that the 6.5coin per block is not enough to push the price. but its not about the 6.5btc going to markets.
its the paradigm of miners collecting coins when its profitable. and selling when prices >2x
and not mining when its not profitable and instead just buying coin when its only <1.4x

this value line is not the amount everyone mines at. but the lowest (efficient) mining cost.
so yea the inefficient miners with more cost are not gonna waste electric when the price and value are only 25% spread. because their personal inefficient costs might be more then 25% higher. so its cheaper to just buy the coin instead of mining it.
this helps keep the market above the value.
and as such when the value-price spread widens they stop buying and begin mining as thats cheaper

they collect up and hoard the coins.. and then when prices 2x-10x(depending on volatility speed) they then sell their bulk

you cannot predict the majority market sentiment if they want to sell their bulk at 2x or x3 or 10x

but you can tell that if the value-price spread is like 20%  the sentiment is in buy mode and the price is highly supported by value

you cant guess when the correcting dip of a spike. but if a price is going above 100%. expect that it can happen

..
in short:
calculate the bubble(the spread between value(mining cost) and price)
9125  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Antiwork: It takes a lot of work to create no work. on: February 21, 2021, 09:25:54 AM
How do you determine what the minimum wage should be set at? You said you want it higher, what is reasonable?

So, I think min wage should be set where a household income on a single earner can provide a livable means. That means, the income should be able to cover food, water, electricity, shelter, internet, health insurance, transportation, a good education, and pretty much the other required necessities of modern society entirely with a tiny bit to spare to save.

you still have not given an answer

governments have done budgets of necessities to live on

but here is the thing. what one person thinks is necessary another person thinks is not enough

so come on what is the monetary level of your 'necessity.
seeing as you want to define exact ratios of math and you want to be pin point specific.
please show your budget calculation of need
whats the shelter allowance
whats the food allowance
whats the utility /service charge allowance
whats the entertainment allowance
whats the hobby allowance
whats the clothing allowance
whats the disposable income allowance
whats the total

then when you account for the obvious inflation on goods/services caused by the basic increase. would your allotted amount STILL be enough?
9126  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Elon Musk: "Bitcoin is almost as bs as fiat money" on: February 20, 2021, 11:41:55 PM
guess he bought at $30k .. sold at $45k for a easy 50% win.
now wants to ride the price down below $45k again to buy in cheap and get more coin

sounds about normal
buy low sell high. wait for next low.
9127  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? on: February 20, 2021, 08:43:21 PM

CDC getting sued for defrauding people with the covid scam.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1362555978479206400

video by principia scientific.. a conspiracy rabbit hole site
give it time and they will become a cult Ψ

..moving on
9128  Other / Politics & Society / Re: President Biden on Texas on: February 20, 2021, 07:57:50 PM
Texas is lucky. They could build their infrastructure so that there would be no dependence on the US necessary.

funny part is texas did build their electrical grid independent of other stats..
and thats the problem.. texas cut themselves off from other states. but then didnt have redundancies to be independant. so when things went bad. they couldnt help themselves and they also couldnt just tap into nearby states resources to get by

texas was known for its prepper lifestyle. but seems even with covid stuff many people havnt prepped for a week-month worth of food or their own water/electric sources

yep they then asked for the feds to step in.. so just goes to show they wouldnt survive a month without feds stepping in

seems the 'independant' state and 'prepper' lifestyle.. didnt really work for texas
9129  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? on: February 20, 2021, 07:29:12 PM
i am now fully convinced that your experience of 'medical' is pill mills and strip joints. meaning you have no clue how the real medical system works.
If your doctor thinks cures are done by the medical, he's just as mixed up as you are.

the guy you see that dresses up in a white coat and grabs a anal plug and suggests you need an internal exam and only offers you a back massage and an orange afterwards.. is not a doctor.

realise your being scammed by a male escort that just wants your money
try to find a real doctor
9130  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? on: February 20, 2021, 07:08:11 PM
You are right. Your doctor should come clean with you. But they can't. Why not? 'Cause they mostly don't know. If they knew, they would be into nutrition. Chiropractors are a bit closer, especially if they know acupuncture/acupressure.

if your doctor thinks the cures to things are eating oranges and having back massages.. then YOU are the one being fooled by your doctor. maybe he is just a gay fetishist. like take you on a date to feed you and take you to a motel after to get handsy. sorry but thats not a practising doctor. thats a practising escort

i am now fully convinced that your experience of 'medical' is pill mills and strip joints. meaning you have no clue how the real medical system works.

so change your 'doctor' try something different
9131  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Antiwork: It takes a lot of work to create no work. on: February 20, 2021, 12:03:01 PM
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yep if 'living wage' was $10 and minimum wage went from $10 to say $20. all that will happen is price of goods and services will increase by 2x also.

Ah yes, make sure never to take this user's word seriously because they can't even remember it a few min later.
oh stop crying
instead read it.
you quoted it so now i re quoted it so now take time to read it
there is no ratio's mentioned, there is no law or rule or mention that it says strictly and forcely linked 1:1
2x was the example.. not the rule

its a basic example where the context says increase the income=increase the expenditure.

seems YOU are the one implying its a hard rule of 1:1 just so that you can cry that its not a 1:1
your basically fighting your own implications.

anyway the point is and ill emphasise it in as basic ELI-5 as you can understand
increasing income  will = increase in expenditure.

anyway. back to the topic.
point is increasing income/reducing hours just causes prices and spending to go up. which can then cycle to needing to increase hows to reattain level of living standard or increase income..
repeat repeat repeat
9132  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Antiwork: It takes a lot of work to create no work. on: February 20, 2021, 11:13:06 AM
i never said if wages stagnate inflation equally stagnates.. you said that

You tied wage to cost of living increases as a 1:1 ratio in your previous post.

Put it another way, in your original statement, if wages fell by 50%, would goods and services not fall by 50%? Or does your microeconomic theory only work in on direction?

nope. never mentioned anything about wage freezes=inflation freezes. nor did i mention wage decreases=inflation decreases.

i think you over simplified what i said for YOU to imply it meant something else.
the actual examples context was about pushing the minimum income up.. pushes the expenditure up
it did not imply the opposite nor the stagnant nor that other expenditure pushes did not exist
the implication was not 1:1
i mentioned no ratios or strict rules
i did not imply the opposite was not true or true.. no implications were made at all

now go cry somewhere else if the content is too complex to understand
9133  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: February 20, 2021, 10:56:27 AM
the human body has it own freedom
move tongue and lips: speach
move legs: travel

however when people start to say their "freedoms" are the constitution. they are not realising the constitution is actually limiting true freedoms. but calling the limitations.... yep you guessed it 'freedoms'

yep even the UN human rights laws. are limited.
its why laws dont apply to your cat. but the responsibility to limit your pet cats actions are passed onto the cats owner.

in short cats have more freedoms then humans
9134  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Antiwork: It takes a lot of work to create no work. on: February 20, 2021, 10:25:53 AM
So, I think min wage should be set where a household income on a single earner can provide a livable means. That means, the income should be able to cover food, water, electricity, shelter, internet, health insurance, transportation, a good education, and pretty much the other required necessities of modern society entirely with a tiny bit to spare to save.
yep if 'living wage' was $10 and minimum wage went from $10 to say $20. all that will happen is price of goods and services will increase by 2x also.

By your magical logic, if $10 min wage stays $10, then all goods and services also stay the same price?

Because that's not reality buddy -- considering the federal min wage hasn't gone up in a decade+  Roll Eyes

Macroeconomics is a rather complex topic to start with, once you start to pull in international geopolitical measures with fiat market manipulation it gets even more complex quickly.
i never said if wages stagnate inflation equally stagnates.. you said that

but the magical logic is the governments GDP has risen due to more money in circulation due to the mortgages creating money meaning while people are not using their income. and instead getting credit cards and mortgages to buy things.. companies see this as the hidden 'disposable' money increases. and so they increase their fee's/charges. even if true salary income has not increased..
..so yes if no salaries increased. the inflation still would increase as just explained..
..but if you then 2x salaries the inflation would also 2x ontop of the GDP based inflation from credit/debt currency flows
.. basically no escaping or outrunning the inflation game

the other complexes are that in play is that minimum wage is not the same as living wage.
and not the same as minimal social security benefits

the power that be actually do budget calculation.
for instance they look at the cheapest utility companies. and set that as the expenditure for social security benefits. they take the median 5 utility companies and average their charges and set that as the mini wage budget. they then take all the utility companies and average that for the living wage budget.

3 different budgets
survival budget (social security) productive budget(min wage) and the content/comfort budget(living wage)


same with food budget. they look at the cheapest ownbrand baked beans, bread, pasta. and work out the basic nutrition cost for social security budget.
they take the median 5 brand produce and set a budget for min wage. and then take al the brands and work out a budget for living wage.
what makes this complex. is to tweak the inflation to seem less apparent is that they subsidise big grocery retailers to offer certain produce extra low. just so that they dont have to tweak the national budgets of social security/minimum wage
yep its why you see certain food basics like own brand baked beans seem to be sold too cheap.
its why some utility companies charge $0.12/kw while they try to push one utility company to offer 0.05/kw for people on low income schemes
(yep if they know low income scheme people can access electric at 5c/kw(same as national average years ago) they dont have to increase social security budget to new national average of 12c/kw)

same goes for the as said grocery. it doesnt matter that the bread nd beans are tasteless. as long as grocery stores provide dirt cheap food thats been subsidised. the government then doesnt have to increase social security budgets

so not only is the game of removing cheap cars out of circulation. but also making the food 'essentials/basics' dirt cheap.
ud be surprised when you start to see which items are on governments 'basic basket' shopping list used for calculations. and then look at how unsurprisingly the markets for them specific items dont move the same way other produce does
.. in short it should be no surprise that own brand baked beans has not moved by 2% a year while everything else has moved by more than 2%.

good research reveals cheese was on the government 'basic basket' shopping list. which is why when importing proper cheddar cheese increased in cost. the government started supplying 'american cheese' cheap.
things like basic chicken (water injected to add weight) seems dirt cheap. all to keep the inflation hidden to not require increasing minimal budgets
9135  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: February 20, 2021, 09:38:37 AM
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(1)VAERS Covid Vax Records
https://vaxpain.us/?fbclid=IwAR0Zklwg60tZMUm2DvWNu9XvVzyq_KMfNHvq1NthJxKujcsT9dVcLrIHgGw

(1)VAERS COVID REPORTS
https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data?fbclid=IwAR3AHMM7qr6HJMTFb2Nre72h-QI9WJPH3EZ83dTNW77EKUFTSdVxrba3rcY

(2)Report: Nearly 1,200 Dead Following COVID Vaxx In US In Less Than 2 Months
https://beforeitsnews.com/healthcare/2021/02/more-media-blackout-report-nearly-1200-dead-following-covid-vaxx-in-us-in-less-than-2-months-cdc-you-need-to-know-these-are-safe-effective-2539733.html

(2)CDC Witholding Information: 1,170 DEAD Following COVID Injections – Almost Twice as Many Deaths as Found in VAERS

(3)University of Florida researchers find no asymptomatic or presymptomatic spread
https://alachuachronicle.com/university-of-florida-researchers-find-no-asymptomatic-spread/

(4)Farmers warn Australia is on the brink of a food crisis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=K_QswUrT5co
1. Vaers.
yep people complain about symptoms. but most of the reports are about minor stuff
yep UK has a similar system(yellow card)
and other countries have other reporting systems too.
and the results are 1-3 in 100,000 'death bed' diagnoses (requires, hospitalisation)
1-3 in 10,000 moderate requiring some intervention. (painkiller, creams, sleep)
1-3 in 1000 minor complaints that are stuff cry babies complain about

yep vaccine is 0.003% in us and 0.001% uk 'killer'.
but covid is a 1-3% killer. can be 8%+ without any interventions
yep, covid is 100x+ worse than the vaccine

2. 1170 deaths
as stated 0.003%(meaning better to get prescribed infection in arm than inhaled virus infection in lung)
but these deaths are not all vaccine deaths. funnily enough these are deaths occured within x days of vaccine. not deaths occured due to vaccine.
however the covid deaths are deaths caused by covid within x days due to linking the symptoms preceding covid along with the test.
so far vaccine deaths are just linking test date and death date. they have yet to get a causal relationship of symptoms to truly categorise it as vaccine death.

i know badecker thinks its february 2020(last year) where the causal relationship of covid test-diagnosis-death was not established much. so he has wrongly been saying for last year that no lessons were learned by march/april last year.
but give it a month and they will recognise the causal diagnostic link for vaccine deaths and be able to work out what deaths were actually caused by the vaccine. and what ones were just bad timing stats

3 its actually not 0% asymptomatic/presymptomatic
its based on viral load. so a true asymptomatic might be 0.25% a presymptomatic might be 2-4% which averages to 0.7%.. yep it states 0-4% in the link  
but as the more symptoms. (means more virus thus more battle) the odds of passing increase upto as they say 22%% (14-22%)
this is why advice is to social distance to strangers you dont know(in public/in stores) because you dont know if they have it or not(stranger risk range: 0-22%).
and within your 'bubble' of people you do know. the 0-4% risk is there when they dont have symptoms. so still wash your hands and household surfaces and ventilate the rooms by opening a window..
but if they have symptoms(14-22%) send them to bed and limit your access to their bedroom. or the risk of spread can be higher than 22%

the article doesnt say absolute 0 spread in asymptomatics-presymptomatics... it says 0-4%
dependant on many factors

4. australia risk of famine is not covid caused. but foreign labour caused. yes government restrictions on foreign migration means less foreign labour. but its a labour problem not a virus problem. farmers should just pay more for local workers to want to harvest their local crop.
9136  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Antiwork: It takes a lot of work to create no work. on: February 20, 2021, 08:33:56 AM
if say a 'living wage' was $400 ($10x40hours) then you might think that having min wage at $15 means you only have to work ~26 hours to get the same $400.

problem is. working only 26 hours means you have more free time and more time to spend money

think about it working 8 hours a day means your home entertainment system, heating is not used for 8 hours
but working just 5hours 20 minutes means your electric will increase by ~3 hours or 12.5%

you will probably decide to want to go out and do stuff. new hobbies.
in the end you find your 'living' cost becomes $500 and suddenly your missing $100 which you have to fill by working another 10 hours.(2 hours a day)
so now you are back to working atleast 7hours 20minutes a day instead of 5hours 20minutes.
which is pretty much nearly the same work effort as working 8 hours previously.

...
if you could change the system where a 5hours a day or 3 day week could provide you with enough income to over all costs. all that will happen is companies notice that households have excess 'disposable income' and they increase their bill charges/fees.

its why bread in some countries is only $0.15 where all the calculations worked out that its all the country can afford to pay for bread on balance. yet its $2.50 in other countries where they work out they can afford to pay more

yep if 'living wage' was $10 and minimum wage went from $10 to say $20. all that will happen is price of goods and services will increase by 2x also.

once you start to see the game. you realise how much work is needed to change it.
even things like government subsidising the destruction of old cars.. yep if they can get rid of the old cheap cars people then have less cars to choose from and have to spend a lil extra to get their first cheap car
(good old supply vs demand))
9137  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? on: February 20, 2021, 08:06:48 AM
But isn't that the way it has almost always been with the medical? You can barely get the truth of your diagnosis out of them in any way, especially if it is a deathbed diagnosis.

if your 'doctor' you visit doesnt tell you your diagnoses. then its time you change your doctor.
im starting to think your only experience of doctors is pillmill salesmen and so thats why your opinions are soo warped.

so simply take this advice
if your going to a town mall clinic and your 'doctor' has a credit card reader in one hand and a prescription pad in the other.. find a new doctor.
9138  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: February 20, 2021, 12:18:17 AM
wrong

1 in 333 get reaction(minor, mild or severe combined)

1 in 1500 get expected symptoms
arm pain, immune response(flu like(fevere, chills, fatique) and needle complaints(arm pain))
you know the crybaby expected stuff of getting injected with a vaccine that shows its working
usually get 2 or 3 of them which means its listed as a >1 in 500 risk of any symptom

1 in 15000 mild reaction. things like heart rate changes or numb arms or mild allergy. again they may also have some of the expected symptoms in first category.

1 in 100,000 severe reaction like heart attack or severe allergic attack. bringing odd further down.

but if you wanna call all the symptoms 'severe'. then please tell them your a baby that needs a lollipop, not a complaints card

the government is not hiding anything. they are clear. that yes the vaccine will cause some complaints. but the odds of anything severe or death are low. way lower than 0.001%

covid however has a severe rate of 10% and a death rate(with intervention) of 1% and 2-8%(without intervention)
9139  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? on: February 20, 2021, 12:08:30 AM
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“This single change resulted in a significant inflation of COVID-19 fatalities by instructing that COVID-19 be listed in Part I of death certificates as a definitive cause of death regardless of confirmatory evidence, rather than listed in Part II as a contributor to death in the presence of pre-existing conditions, as would have been done using the 2003 guidelines.”

...

yet the guidelines from cdc still say part one is for listing the symptoms. where it lists the causal progression leading to death.
yes i reminded you when you first linked bigtree mentioning your quoted nonsense
it seems when you get debunked. you wait untill another conspiracy link says it. then you pretend you didnt get debunked because someone else quoted a lie.

i dont think you understand hoe facts work. a lie is still a lie even if a new person repeats it

9140  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? on: February 19, 2021, 11:14:23 PM
im not a global warming freak
some parts of the world are getting colder too. so 'warming' is moot

climate change. well thats not caused by carbon. most of it is due to humans changing the land and thus the water cycle. its water that people need to think about
while you may read how jakarta and NY is seeing 'sea level rise' the actual fact is due to draining the underground aquifers and building on the land. the land is actually sliding into the sea... not the sea siding up the land.

on the other subject
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but as noted by your last post you seem too interested in the canabis industry. so while i dont think its a fine day. i must also think you have been smoking it.
..
anyway if you want to compare 100 years of starvation vs 1 year of covid. well now your just grabbing air thinking it has substance.
..
did you know that there are many people that worked 60 hours a day and were not able to have 3 nice healthy meals a day
this is not due to no work. there is plenty of work. but the economy of wage vs bills is the issue. not the work

so if you think the solution is 'just put everyone back to work' .. you are wrong
its actually a societal/cultural/statistical fact. that the more a person works. the less they actually get to live on
statistical fact the toilet cleaner at mcdonalds works harder and longer then the CEO
...
the solution to starvation in developing countries is not that they dont want to work. its that many people are torn out and off their own land. and resettled far away where they cant just make new farms. because the plots they are settled on are the infertile land no one wants.

if you think starvation is due to lazyness.. please. again stop smoking THC and start doing more research if you are at all interested in the real causes
as you say starvation of 100 years.. cant be due to covid because covid is only 1year old. so you need to research the other 100 years.
the solution is not simply 'putting them to work'

..
i am however glad your neighbours/community are social distancing and not dry humping everyone they see. so yea im glad the covid cases are lower in your area. but remember if they took the social restrictions away and people start mingling again. without a vaccine. then they have not had any immunity and cases will spike in your area.
so throwing people back to work might let the dive-bars open for maybe 2-6 months. but then they need to close again when people get covid due to mingling again
(i dont beleive you dont have lockdown. your profile says USA. and your name suggest san fransisco bay area)
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