That is pretty awesome, everyone should comment there.
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Has there been any thought or moves to marketing directly to groups that may benefit from using NXT? i.e. Trade Unions, Chambers of Commerce maybe Small or local government bodies? This type of marketing would be fairly cheap; Only involving time and not much $ to get rolling on. NXT could be made to seem very appealing to these types of organizations if presented in the right way.
I think we would lose all credibility if we were being used by local government bodies.
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I vote that we don't. We have talented guys in NXT that have been helping with exchange implementation (opticalcarrier springs to mind, + others). If we spent the 100 kNXT bounty on financing these guys to set up an exchange implementation workgroup and get them to fully document their procedures, we can get a package together that will allow all exchanges to implement NXT without the technical problems that so many seem to be having.
Helping, documenting, spreading the implementation info and providing support will pay off way better in the long run than simple bribery. Again, if providing tech help doesn't cut it, then we can try bribery.
Don't forget, we just blew something like 2-3 BTC on MintPal and they then turned around and said: "Sorry , we don't understand NXT, how about some nice TeslaCoin instead? "
I say we offer them 20k Nxt for testing purposes along with the help of our devs. You could even tell Cryptsy that BTC38 and BTC-e are adding Nxt and vice versa. Tell them it was an easy implementation with the help of our devs.
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I already submitted to tens of sites, among which are:
Motherboard / vice Techcrunch WIRED KurzweilAI SingularityHub TheVerge Engadget Gizmag Forbes WallStreetJournal Coindesk
I say it's worth paying for PR if they ensure it'll reach a lot of people
Thanks for your work! +1, great work Uniqueorn.
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Hey, bittrex asks why this doesn't work: > curl -X POST -H "Content-Type:application/json" --data "secretPhrase=xxx" http://127.0.0.1:7876/nxt?requestType=getAccountId {"errorCode":3,"errorDescription":"\"secretPhrase\" not specified"}
What is wrong here? this will work: curl --data "requestType=getAccountId&secretPhrase=xxx" http://127.0.0.1:7876/nxtthanks, had to be POST but if I remove the -H content-type it works :-) bittrex exchange is back at work on integrating nxt :-) Thanks Wesleyh for working with these guys, been a huge help.
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I think the problem could perhaps only be solved by some sort of more "random" process (which is not simple with an AT as it is not easy for an AT to actually get *random* data).
I am guessing if we could get enough randomness then our "whale lover's" donation (and I am not against the whales - so replace them with any other creature you like or dislike) could actually be just as likely to go to the "whale eater's" foundation.
That I guess would stop the money going into the "void" but keep anyone from having an "agenda" to not release funds.
Yeah, AT randomness is difficult, so perhaps an Escrow Coin Asset business would be better suited to handle.
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Agreed (minus the vulgar language), we can market AE when it's finished with testing and we are happy with it.
Btw, who is really testing it? I got only a few bug reports. I don't really need AE working (I'm not a trader and don't need to IPO anything), so I can wait till April. The community should focus on testing if it does need AE. Bump, anyone have bugs to report? Let's keep testing. Otherwise, let's release and have client developers implement asap.
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I like your approach of sending to void (perhaps genesis block or Nxt bounty fund), so buyer is committed regardless and seller has no incentive to scam.
Thanks - after some thought it actually is probably better to always send to the void than to anything else. (someone who "loves the whales" but "hates X tee-shirts" could always make an order for a tee-shirt and then just send the money to the "help the whales" organisation claiming to have been not sent a tee-shirt) How is "void" defined? Perhaps Genesis Block? Could incorporate AE and DAC later into escrow. For example: Buyer purchases goods. Buyer converts Nxt to "Escrow coin" via AE. Buyer submits Escrow coin to Seller via AT. Buyer receives goods and releases Escrow coins to Seller. Seller then converts Escrow coin to Nxt or any crypto via DAC. That way we are never really losing any Nxt to void, only Escrow coins. Although not sure where Nxt would end up if transaction falls through, perhaps to owner of Escrow Coin Asset.
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Hey CIYAM, would an "Escrow" use case be possible with AT? I feel that this would be very useful and have been thinking about how it's possible with AT.
Hmm... I am thinking what might work is this sort of approach (not ideal but still could be useful). An AT is created that can only send funds to 1 of 2 addresses with 1 of those being to "the void" (or a charity if preferred) and the other being to the person you are buying goods from with an AM (from only its creator) being used to instruct it to send to the vendor (and with a timeout to send to the void after x days/weeks/months). So once you have funded that AT then the guy selling you the goods can see that your funds are "committed" (i.e. you can't get them back) then he sends you the goods and you release the funds to him. You'd want to tie this in with a "rating" system I'd guess also but I think we do have another use case here (it's actually just a variation on the Dormant Funds Transfer technically). Great, I think an Escrow AT would be a great seller, perhaps we can talk to Nexern about adding to his client as his client has a functional reputation system. I like your approach of sending to void (perhaps genesis block or Nxt bounty fund), so buyer is committed regardless and seller has no incentive to scam. Really interesting stuff, perhaps someone has a better approach but I like it. Furthermore, the 1st account could be a specific market escrow committee, so if the funds end up there and the seller has a case, he can argue for the funds with proof. Great work here CIYAM
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Hey CIYAM, would an "Escrow" use case be possible with AT? I feel that this would be very useful and have been thinking about how it's possible with AT.
Hmm... I am thinking what might work is this sort of approach (not ideal but still could be useful). An AT is created that can only send funds to 1 of 2 addresses with 1 of those being to "the void" (or a charity if preferred) and the other being to the person you are buying goods from with an AM (from only its creator) being used to instruct it to send to the vendor (and with a timeout to send to the void after x days/weeks/months). So once you have funded that AT then the guy selling you the goods can see that your funds are "committed" (i.e. you can't get them back) then he sends you the goods and you release the funds to him. You'd want to tie this in with a "rating" system I'd guess also but I think we do have another use case here (it's actually just a variation on the Dormant Funds Transfer technically). Great, I think an Escrow AT would be a great seller, perhaps we can talk to Nexern about adding to his client as his client has a functional reputation system. I like your approach of sending to void (perhaps genesis block or Nxt bounty fund), so buyer is committed regardless and seller has no incentive to scam. Really interesting stuff, perhaps someone has a better approach but I like it.
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How is going on the AE test? this is real markeeting, not speakers for freaks/geeks
who the fuck cares? AE is not working that is why nobody talks about it. Agreed (minus the vulgar language), we can market AE when it's finished with testing and we are happy with it.
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Who is currently working on the Decentralized Marketplace / Auction system?
I don't believe anyone, there were talks about using a torrent style system to distribute marketplace which could be loaded to client. If you are interested in developing, there would be quite a large bounty available. Indeed, i am interested. Have there been any discussions about that on public forums, if yes where? Who has set a bounty for that? Tech Committee should offer a bounty to Fry for a finished open-source Marketplace/Auction system, this would be first of it's kind.
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I am tired to these NXT forks, when we can see something real? When?
What is your definition of real?
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** Cryptsy Update **
I just heard back from Paul (met him at the Miami Bitcoin Conference), they are looking to implement Nxt in the next few weeks.
I talked with Big Vern @Skype and I introduced CfB to him - he said he will talk to Paul about it (to get help from CfB if needed). Fantastic. I did a virtual introduction with all the different devs including CfB and Jean-Luc a few weeks ago as well... they have the resources, now it's just a matter of finding time to implement. Nxt keeps taking another step. Let me make a suggestion to keep this ball rolling. We should ask the Cryptsy folks to document what was required to get NXT plugged into their system. Then we should turn right around to allwelder or some of the other Chinese NXT members and see that this info from Cryptsy gets communicated to BTX38.com in China. We need to be on both of these exchanges as soon as possible. It is the only way we are going to get exposure to a new pool of capital to buy NXT and get our exchange volume back up. +100, let's be really proactive about getting on exchanges, this should be Marketing Committee's priority (once they are established)
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Just talked to bittrex, they have only 86 signups from nxt at the moment.. You should all go and sign up. Go to https://bittrex.com/Account/Register and use SUPPORT_NXT as the invite code. This gets you past the invite code queue. Place some trades, enabled 2FA, or try any of our other features to help us stress the site before the final launch. If you find a bug, we're handing out bug bounties as well. Having a great exchange helps us but also helps the NXT community. Done. Testing trading some DOGE until they add NXT. Received this from Bittrex, please don't bother signing up any more until we have clarification they can add Nxt. "Sigh, we just hit a huge technical hurdle that is going to delay this; I'm not sure we have an easy way around this without doing a lot of core engine restructuring which is super scary.
I will keep you updated "I've asked them for more specifics. Just received this from BittrexNever mind... After hanging out 3 hours last night with some folks in your IRC channel, crisis adverted I think. Thanks to those that helped last night.
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Version 0.3.4 of Nxs is how up on GitHubAll API / UI server requests are now done through POST (with a config option for GET for backwards compatibility with Nxt versions prior to 0.8 ). Nxs now has a sidebar for navigation (similar to the nxtra.org NXT Wallet's) because the advanced Nxt features such as Messages, Aliases, Asset Exchange, etc. won't fit into the navigation bar at the top. Aliases have now been implemented and can be registered and updated on the Aliases page. If you choose "Nxt Account" as your type, the Nxt account number URI will automatically be wrapped with "acct:" and "@nxt" so the full URI is something like "acct:0000000000000000@nxt". This is an attempt to help push a standard for Nxt account number alias URIs in solidarity with wesley's NXT Wallet app. In the future, these account numbers will be able to be entered as the recipient in a transaction as well. Also, aliases now show up in their registering and updating transactions on the Transactions page. Along with the new side bar, the pages interface has been completely revamped to show only one page at a time instead of the old navigation system where you could toggle widgets on and off and display multiple widgets at a time. The initial version with toggling widgets made too much of an attempt to emulate Nxt's default NRS GUI instead of rethinking the interface altogether. Rate of requests for new data is now adjustable in "assets/js/config.js" allowing Nxs to potentially run more smoothly on older computers. Repo available here along with installation instructions and the full change log can be found here. New screenshots can be found here. ] Anyone tried this? Looks awesome, great work Regulus.
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I agree senior members would be good, is it really necessary to insult people who are trying to learn? I guess all crypto should be closed to new members right people who actually bring new money to the industry. I'm not insulting anyone who has thoughtful posts (such as yourself), I'm referring to members that post "This coin is great". This adds nothing to the conversation. More Sr. Members will bring technical and crypto knowledge to eXo which is a good thing, plus a sense of credibility. Having a bunch of new account holders only makes it look like there are duplicate investments and detracts new investors who come across this thread. Regardless, my goal isn't too enforce anything.
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Just talked to bittrex, they have only 86 signups from nxt at the moment.. You should all go and sign up. Go to https://bittrex.com/Account/Register and use SUPPORT_NXT as the invite code. This gets you past the invite code queue. Place some trades, enabled 2FA, or try any of our other features to help us stress the site before the final launch. If you find a bug, we're handing out bug bounties as well. Having a great exchange helps us but also helps the NXT community. Done. Testing trading some DOGE until they add NXT. Received this from Bittrex, please don't bother signing up any more until we have clarification they can add Nxt. "Sigh, we just hit a huge technical hurdle that is going to delay this; I'm not sure we have an easy way around this without doing a lot of core engine restructuring which is super scary.
I will keep you updated "I've asked them for more specifics.
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Any eta on the second wave of investments? Would definitely like to get in asap.
But I do agree that the next round of investments should only be relegated to members who registered before a certain date and have a minimum level posting activity...in order to ensure true, equal distribution and no ninja dupes/whales. Please consider it.
+1, also eXo needs to get more Sr members involved, no use having a bunch of newbies who ask stupid questions constantly.
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