Okay, cool then. I don't know why I was under the impression that once the snapshot was taken it would be too late .


mmmm, in my opinion the attack is already worthwhile, anyway such an attack won't succeed unless the attackee is not vigilant and doesn't double check their address (as the bot instructs them), so why not lower it if it permits to filter out exchanges addresses at the detection process (not requiring you to check suspect addresses)?


Let's hope they keep their words .


Okay then. Given what you said about deduplication being done even after the snapshot's taken then the bot dying from time to time is not that big of an issue.

La liaison doit être effectuée au plus tard le 24 décembre à 23:59:59 UTC. Si tu lies maintenant, tu peux faire bouger tes BTC (en retirer et/ou en rajouter), il faut juste qu'ils soient là pour le snapshot du 25. (et tu peux lier plusieurs adresses BTC si tu veux)

The detection seems to be done after the address is linked, that's whay I raised this concern:


Or am I missing something and there's no concern to have in this regard? i.e. you/the bot will be able to detect such an address and remove it before the snapshot.


Okay, given the fact that the old link is removed (fast enough), my question is no longer relevant. It is just that I saw one address linked to two bytaball addresses, so I don't know how fast the bot detects that and removes the link. I assume the bot will be able to remove redundant links done on December 24 at 23:59:59 UTC before the snapshot(?).


Why would lowering the micropayment be riskier than with the current micropayments? (because they would be easily spotted?)


Yes in most standard cases it can't, but exchanges can sign a message with an address holding funds which are not really theirs, can't they?

Thx.

Edit: Once again:


Edit2: The second transaction https://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/c546e318eaea173787e55db286c49e90241934fc844dfc77d7ab9231b1e8755a has been done at 20:30 UTC, it has been almost 40 minutes and it is still in the list, this coupled with the fact the the bot doesn't reply on the chat interface means that the bot is again dead ...

I also remember seeing this address earlier today linked to two different byteball addresses, the bot probably kept the first after it updated ... I was wondering if it would be fair to blacklist addresses that try to link to different byteball accounts, I mean can there be any valid case for someone to try that unless they want to cheat the system (or maybe they were trying to find bugs )?

Edit: Just thought of a case: I link my address to a first account, I then destroy this account and link the same address to a new account. So does the linking disappear when a byteball account is destroyed?

I also remember some discussion about detecting exchanges addresses, so what follows might have been addressed before:

How is this detection done? Isn't there a risk that someone links an exchange address on Decmeber 24 23:59:59 UTC and gets included in the snapshot? Meaning would it be costly to try and detect exchange addresses before adding them (and removing them afterwards, as it seems to be done for now)?

I also assume that an address that used a signed message can't be an exchange address, or am I mistaken? Exchanges staff might control private keys of addresses at some extent, so I think I'm mistaken (well technically I was for a second ).

I was wondering how micro could the micropayment be, some exchanges charge 0.0001 or 0.0002 (maybe others less) as a fee for a withdrawal, is it possible to make the micropyament less than that (or at least less that the minimum they authorize to be withdrawed)?

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It means for each 0.04408148 BTC, you get 1 gigabyte = 10⁹ bytes. If your address has 1 BTC, you'll get 1/0.04408148 gigabytes = 22685263743 bytes.

Invested funds are still there (they are neither lost nor stolen), investors didn't receive their tokens yet, so for the time being, nothing can be said with certainty.

In the next round, 62.5 Megabytes (as in bytes, the currency of byteball) will be considered as a proportion of 1 BTC. Let's assume you get 62.5 Megabytes in the first round, so this is equivalent to linking an address with 1 BTC. Let's assume that the total linked in the second round is equivalent to 10000 BTC then you'll get 1/10000 = 0.01% of the distributed bytes (and blackbytes), that is 0.01% of the 20% distributed in the second round for instance. What you get is a percentage of the distributed amount, it is impossible to claim more than what is available.

On the first block after December 25 00:00:00 UTC.


No it doesn't, you can link your address now, link it later, fund it now or fund it later. All should be done before December 24 at 23:59:59 UTC to ensure your linked address is part of the snapshot.

Good, that's the spirit . In the beginning, I was (and still am) a bit put off by the way you advertise(d) Bela as the next Steem. Having said that, if you deliver, then there is no problem, looking forward to your next releases.

I think this is a good idea to build up excitement, hoping this project will indeed be worth the wait and will be released on time . Cuz if it's not, this may backfire.

Nope you don't need a minimum, you just need to fill your BTC address if you want a piece of the pie. The bot tells you your linked Bitcoin address(es) and it also tells you to move your funds there, so if you don't want to see "Current balance of this address is 0 BTC.", move some funds to your address, and to participate make sure it has funds before the snapshot's taken.


This means more than 3213 BTC has already been linked.

1. Sorry but LOL .

2. This is not a traditional ICO, nothing is being sold.

3. You ask for a commission, yet you don't even say how you would support it, what you offer and why anyone should use your service.

4. What kind of support do you offer?

5. I think I should've stopped at 1.

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Can you give more details? Are you sure it is not an issue with you internet connection? I just re-donwloaded it and everything went fine.

Not yet. Technically Xaur will not be mined, but other coins will be, and Xaur will be bought or coined. That will be available with the Glodmine, which is supposed to be up very soon .

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Why do you think that? Xaurum already held a campaign during their ICO and paid participants with a bonus.

I don't think so, if you remove and reinstall everything, it should work, but I think the bot should be able to display instructions when asked.


Well you can find general instructions in the first post, but the instructions are specific to each device. Either you send a micropayment to an address (the micropayment and the address are displayed by the bot and are not the same for everyone), or you sign your Byteball address and copy/paste the result in the chat interface (this one you can do I guess), however I don't know if the bot (in its silent state) will respond to that ... Try it (if you can).

The signature removal was indeed never explicitely addressed in the rules, there was not a specific form to fill for leaving the campaign (or any other instructions concerning that). Moreover, DECENT asked the participants to keep it until the necessary checkings were done (once the ICO ended) and yes the checkings were not done every week (which is very unfortunate). So I don't know if you'll be able to get the bounty :/

Edit: maybe DECENT is talking about filling the appeal form that was available during the campaign ... If this is the case, it wasn't very clear that a participant should fill it upon removal of the sig.

It seems this is an issue with the bot. When first pairing the device with the bot, it replies with instructions to linking, however, after closing and reopening the wallet, there doesn't seem to be a way to make the bot display the linking instructions again (or anything else).

La liaison des adresses Bitcoin pour la distribution du 25 décembre est désormais possible. Téléchargez le portefeuille :
Bureau : https://github.com/byteball/byteball/releases.
Android : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.byteball.wallet.
Et suivez le même processus que pour la liaison sur le testnet.

Le lien pour retweeter : https://twitter.com/ByteballOrg/status/806290785486467073.

Instructions for the testnet distribution are here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg16837694#msg16837694. This phase is now over. Instructions for the real distribution will be the same, we are just waiting for the livenet wallets to be released, scrolling up a bit:

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There is no reason this wallet can't be used, so yes it is ok.

From https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg16569906#msg16569906:


So If you participated in a previous round of distribution, bytes you got will also count for the next distribution. As stated, every 62.5 Megabytes will count as 1 BTC.


You'll probably get your bytes as soon as possible after the snapshot of December 25. Check the post I linked above for info about the distribution.


You are welcome.

Yes your calculations are right. About the transition bot, tonych said:


So it seems the next time the transtion bot is up will be for the linking of BTC addresses. I assume there might be other rounds of TBB distribution before each round of BB distribution to test the basket mechanism ...

Maybe you or someone who wants to trade ANC (not me for the moment) can create a separate thread where potential buyers and sellers can arrange for ANC trading ...

By the way, antshares, do you have any news about any other western exchange adding ANS?