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541  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Between futures trading and gambling on: July 21, 2023, 11:58:22 PM
There are many gamblers that can gamble just to have some fun and make money in the process and there are some that focus on gambling only to make money so I would like to ask such people a question.

would you prefer to gamble in a casino and make some money or learn about futures trading and make some money?

Which one do you actually find to be more easier and I believe that futures trading is also capable of giving someone life-changing money but which one do you believe is less risky than the other?
I will like future trading than gambling though these two things look similar, gambling can crumble you and likewise trading within a second you are empty. But if you are good in trading there is no way that you be empty a day, definitely you must make profit a day but gambling is not like that, if your luck is bad in that day then yours is gone. Upon all these I still like trading to gambling. Gambling is for fun but the money you loss would definitely pain you. So the fun comes with pain as well.

if you happen to learn the strategic moves in futures trading, you will go home as a winner. and you can learn such tactics thru experience and reading as much info for the project. whereas, in gambling, even if you study hard the game esp the luck-based games, you will still go nowhere as it is based on luck.
Agreed on the difference between futures trading and gambling. Learning will increase the chance of winning whereas the luck decides with gambling. Futures trading can be made successful through our regular market observation and through the prediction in connection to the growth. With futures trading one could loss, but the same won't completely empty the wallet. With gambling if we're unlucky we will go emptied.
542  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Elon musk is for crypto or just for attention to boost Tesla, SpaceX? on: July 21, 2023, 11:48:25 PM
Very interesting choice so if it is the choice to go with there you can assume his other companies are next.
So we can see twitter accepting it as a source of payment soon as well.
Maybe I'm missing something, I mean, for sure I'm missing something because I keep not understanding why Musk is accepting Dogecoin over bitcoin. Dogecoin is nice if you want to tip someone online, but accepting it as a payment for something very expensive like a car? Unless the plan is to hype it up, as usual, and then sell everything. Same old story but people keep following any weird message from this guy...
Personally, I thought the exact opposite, because Elon Musk had in a previous period sold all his bitcoin savings to complete the Twitter purchase deal, and it would be better for him to continue accepting bitcoin payments for the sale of Tesla cars.
I think there are two possible explanations for this action:
- Elon Musk still owns a significant amount of Dodge Coin and seeks to raise its price as much as possible before selling it. This may be a result of the period when he began posting tweets supporting Dodge, only to find himself involved in a large amount of money after its price fell.
- Maintaining his supportive position for Dodge Coin so as not to appear manipulative.
He's an unpredictable person. Now the competence from threads would've been a major blow, soon we can see him on the cryptocurrency market. Initially he came for his products and not for bitcoin. Once again this can happen during these days. In between he supported dogecoin and manipulated the growth. Thats a big favour from him to the dogecoin holders.
543  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will You Stop Gambling Even If You're Doing Great If This Happens To You on: July 20, 2023, 11:34:49 PM
It is good to go with my father's advice. Initially I'll try to convince him and continue my gambling activity. When I find this isn't gonna work I'll go upon his wish. I don't think such situation won't exist in reality. Most of the threads relative to gambling were just assumptions. These days beyond 18 no parents involve into their children's life. Just the advice is given to lead life and the rest is their choice. Maybe if the children were using their parents money then they're supposed to give statement on it.
544  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 20, 2023, 11:29:52 PM
After the first session, Windies kept things tight nicely, possibly their first 14 tight overs in this series. They picked up 3 quick wickets and now they have some chance to pick up a couple more too.
Kohli and Rahane would make perfect prize wickets in this situation. Personally, i am waiting for Chadwin. Madlad becomes a beast when he bats against the Windies, hope he gets a promotion although chances are slim because of Ishan.

India lost their fourth wicket for 182 runs. After losing the first wicket for 139 runs, India lost 4 valuable wickets to collect only 43 runs. It was not expected that India's top order and middle order would play so badly after the two openers got off to such a good start. Shubman Gill and Rahane scored 10 and 8 runs respectively. Kohli remains unbeaten on 18 off 44 balls. There are experienced batsmen like Kohli, Jadeja, Ishan Kishan and Aswin. So India still has scope to collect. Let's see how much India can collect in the first innings. But collecting less than 300 they will face a big problem.
India is at good position. I don't expect India to perform big against these teams. In the first match it was a very big win. In this match West Indies should've corrected themselves and well prepared. Everyone have scored good and expected a century from Jaiswal, and this time it didn't happened. Lets see how the match gets started in the third day.

Meanwhile in the fourth Ashes Cricket test match, England is at the better position by the end of day 2 with the lead of 67 runs and 6 wickets in hand. Opener Crawley have scored 189 runs from 182 balls which is really impressive. Stokes and Brook on the crease can expect another 100-150 runs for sure.
545  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you quit that's when you lose! on: July 19, 2023, 10:59:44 PM
Thats completely wrong perspective on gambling. Very few get lucky whereas the majority end up losing their entire funds. Gambling isn't the right place where we should carry the never give up mentality. A statements is misleading when the outcome of the statement doesn't suits with the majority. If I'm not wrong those people who describe those terms to be successful were the people appointed to promote gambling in those region. If not, they're people who are gamblers who want to make others experience what they've experienced.
546  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: July 18, 2023, 11:59:12 PM
Australia Women vs England Women

Today is the third and the last ODI match between these two teams. Both teams played well in the last two matches and their series is now 1-1. And this is final match which will show that who will win the series. Can't predict at this time because both teams are good and will try its best to win this match. The match is going to be interested. And I think which one will take first turn and will go above 280 runs so this will be little bit difficult target for the second team.
Today is the final match of ODI series between Australia women team vs England women team because in the first two matches England women team won one match and Australia women team won one match so whichever team wins today between the two teams will finally win the ODI series. Australia won the only Test match of the entire tour to win the Test series.In the subsequent two T20s out of the three T20s, England Women's team won the T20 series. Both Australia and England have a chance to decide the series with a win in today's ODI match. In the last match, Australia won the match very closely against England. Australia won the second ODI by just three runs. I want to put England ahead in the final match of the ODI series. Hopefully England will win the last match and confirm the ODI series.

England and Australia are the strongest teams in women's cricket. And it is very difficult to predict which team will win the match between these two teams.
Australia women's team won the toss and decided to field in today's match. The start was very good by the Australian bowlers. They sent England's two openers to the dressing room in just 12 runs. However, the Australian bowlers cannot maintain this consistency. England women's team collected 149 runs losing only 2 wickets in 30 overs. My guess is that England Women will give a target of more than 280 today.
The England women's team has set a huge target in front of the Australia women's team. Australia women's team needs to score 286 runs to win this series which is a very challenging score.  
Australia women's team could not hold their wickets. So even if they are in a receptive position towards runs, they are likely to lose the match for the loss of wickets. Australia is under more pressure fall of 6th wicket. Ashleigh Gardner who made a score of 41 off 24 balls was unlucky to be run out. Currently, both are new batsmen on the pitch. So it will take some time for them to set but in the meantime England Women will try to get them back. And if two wickets fall, this match cannot be expected to be won by Australia women's team.
Nat Sciver with her century helped the team reach a big target of 285 runs. Australia women team lost early wickets. In between Perry and McGrath created partnership, which sustained for some time. As said the team continued to score, but they weren't able to hold wickets. Kate Cross kept breaking partnership and collapsed the opening with her 3 wicket haul. The match overs were reduced to 44 based on DLS method. Australia women were able to reach 199 runs losing every wickets. Finally the series won with the win of the 3rf ODI by 69 runs(DLS method).
547  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A idea from my home boy on: July 18, 2023, 11:05:10 PM
That is not too bad, but for him to remember the splited ones is the major issue. But if he can remember them then it is not a bad idea. because I noticed that he is trying to make sure that when he mistakenly lost the one he has written down and someone found it and want to use the seed phrase to login to the wallet and since two words are missing, he could not do that. Written the two words down and still memorizing them in your brain is a good arrangement of storing seed phrase.
Not too bad, but remembering the splitted location is really a big issue. Keeping two words memorized is really good and makes it more secure. However we don't know what happens the next minute, and for that reason we're supposed to keep one of our close person informed about the recovery phrase. In such scenario how can that be done. The plan to keep words splitted is good, but there needs to be few backups and locations were entire phrase is kept for the future.
548  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If bitcoin according to Satoshi is digital money then why call it investment. on: July 18, 2023, 10:57:56 PM
The use case of bitcoin is a means of payment - but users can always trade it. Bitcoin is a volatile asset - so there is nothing wrong if someone or perhaps most users choose it as an investment asset and trade it. Satoshis may not trade bitcoin - but users are always free to do so to generate profits and long-term returns.

After all trading and investing will also support larger transactions to support bitcoin growing stronger - so it's not wrong for most users to call bitcoin an investment asset.
The use case is the thing that gives it the term investment. The purpose for which Satoshi innovated is to be an alternate to the traditional system followed and to eliminate the middle man. Further the growth and acceptance have made it to be more successful beyond the usage as a transaction source.

Over time bitcoin have turned as a multiple usage asset. It have been used as a transaction source, investment, trading, as currency in exchange for services and it goes on. It is all about the individual person's thought to call it an investment/currency or something else.
549  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Positive thoughts and attitude towards Bitcoin. on: July 17, 2023, 11:50:30 PM
Op is confident over the growth of bitcoin. Already he would be enjoying the profit out of his investment, he had bought when the price was around $17k and now the difference is almost doubled. In all forms of investment there'll be risk and the same could be overcome by our learning and the decisions taken at the right time. We should be ready with alternate plans if the market isn't moving according to our predictions. Next thing is the focus on worst case of the market. Our mind need to have everything calculated for the worst case of the market and the same will never let us down.
550  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: July 17, 2023, 10:57:35 PM
Bangladesh all-rounder Shakib Al Hasan came out on top, no cricketer from India or Pakistan is even close to him. As the age of Shakib Al Hasan is increasing day by day, it is as if he is taking himself to another level. He has performed brilliantly since the beginning of his career so he has reached this place. Shakib Al Hasan has a record as an all-rounder since then. Shakib Al Hasan hit another unique milestone in the third and final ODI of the series against Afghanistan on Tuesday. Shakib needed only 29 runs to hit the new milestone before taking the field in this match. He scored a total of 14 thousand 39 runs in 3 formats in international cricket. As a result, he has crossed the barrier of 14 thousand runs in three formats. On the other hand, he has taken 600 wickets in all three formats with the ball, now he has 674 wickets next to his name and Shakib himself has given birth to a new club. Shakib Al Hasan is the only all-rounder in the world who has 600 wickets with 14,000 runs in three formats. Shakib himself, however, does not want to bother with the record, the Bangladeshi star's only goal is to make Bangladesh the champion.
Shakib Al Hasan is an all rounder player of Bangladesh team.  Shakib Al Hasan can be seen playing well in all situations.  And there is no other player like him in the Bangladesh team.  But it cannot be guaranteed that another player like him does not exist in a team like India.  India, Australia, England each team is very good in cricket and they play better than Bangladesh.  So one player like Shakib Al Hasan is not enough to make Bangladesh better. Bangladesh needs to develop a few more players like Shakib Al Hasan.  Then Bangladesh to develop itself more in cricket
There's no denying the truth. Shakib is definitely superior to the rest! Bangladesh team is truly lacking a high-quality player like Shakib Al Hasan. It would be wise to consider giving him the captaincy in the ODI format. However, there's a question of whether the Bangladesh team can afford to take the risk of changing the captaincy right now, especially with the Asia Cup and World Cup just around the corner. Somehow I feel like that under his captaincy Bangladesh can perform way better than expected.
One among the player who had helped Bangladesh in critical situations. Whenever a team is mentioned, few names commonly comes to mind. As that for Bangladesh it is Shakib Al Hasan. Change of captain at this situation isn't advised, but Bangladesh is in a situation to take risk. Bangladesh have got good players, and under good captaincy they can perform very well.
551  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 17, 2023, 10:34:14 PM
Good to see Shaheen Shah taking 100 wickets in test cricket though I expected him to reach this feat quicker. Also, it seems like Pakistan's over-dependency on Azam and Rizwan is slowly and steadily decreasing with time.

Excited to see who will win between Pak and Lanka in this tightly contested test match.
For now we can't be sure about the result. It all depends on the tail order performance from the Pakistan team. More 91 runs required to level the score. If a wicket falls, automatically the down players could loss the wicket. The team to set a target of 400+ runs at the earliest will in the match. For now both the teams are equally strong. Lets see how the match turns in the third day.
552  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should I buy now or I should still wait for the dip? on: July 17, 2023, 09:41:12 PM
Due to its extreme volatility, predicting the behavior of Bitcoin with certainty is impossible. Therefore, no one can definitively advise you to buy at the current moment or wait for a dip. As a financial decision, it ultimately rests on your shoulders. Set your own objectives and proceed accordingly. Success in achieving your targets depends on the whims of luck. The reality is that there are no foolproof methods for making perfect predictions in this realm; it involves taking risks and being prepared for potential outcomes.
The market is volatile and we can't be so sure about the price movements. When we look for an opportunity to buy, we don't see the price moving downward. This is some sort of experience that everyone could've felt. So, when you prefer to buy, just fix a target and go for it. If the target isn't reached, you could prefer to follow the DCA technique which helps you buy at an average price.
553  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: July 17, 2023, 08:32:14 PM
Beyond all the performance I was surprised by the stamina of both the players. The match lasted 4 hours and 43 minutes. From the very first serve to the final serving there is no difference in their performance and energy level. How both have competed against each other. Young Alcaraz had been using power shots from the beginning. Till the last everyone predicted the match to be a win for Djokovic, but things changed as performance went high with Alcaraz at the right time.
554  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 17, 2023, 12:21:47 PM
Sri Lanka turned the tide of the match in their favour. Pakistan's top order batsmen could not make much use of it. Prabath Jayasuriya took the important wickets of Pakistan batsman Babar Azam, Shafiq and Sarfaraz which was a plus point for Sri Lanka. With one of these three, it would have been a bit difficult for Sri Lanka to take the match in their favor. Rizwan should have been played in place of Sarfaraz in my opinion. Saud Shakeel and Agha salman are now at the crease, both of them are batting well and have put on a partnership of 78 runs.
Yeh some early on dismissal really damage Pakistani team moral, but credit goes to Siri Lankan Bowler who took such an import wickets to break down the momentum before it damage them, Pakistan lose wickets too quick that's why they face huge pressure, I taught that baber Gona control the situation just like he did always but today things are not in favour of him,  but thanks to Saud Shakeel and Salman Agha who took responsibility and through his spectacular partnership some how now it's look like Pakistan is in the game otherwise things are out of control, hope both will scored centuries or some decent runs which will help Pakistan to out of difficult situation

I am not satisfied with Pakistani batting duo Imamul Haque and Babar Azam these two players of Pakistani team are in form now. But they did not perform well today, especially if Babar Azam could score a century or a half century in this test match today, then the Pakistani team does not have to be under pressure in the last stage. But as usual today's match is not in their favor but for them Saud Shakeel and Salman these two batsmen can fill the void of the Pakistani team if the pair of the two survives.

Expected players have failed to perform. The team shouldn't be much depending on specific players. For Sri Lanka it is De Silva and now for Pakistan it is Shakeel and Agha doing the needful at the right moment. End of day 2 Pakistan trial by 91 runs with 5 wickets in hand scoring 221 runs. Jayasuriya have took 3 wickets and by the first session of day 3 Sri Lanka needs some quick wickets to keep the winning probability high. Based on tomorrow's performance we can conclude whether the match ends in a draw or gets result.
555  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You must do this if you want to QUIT or NOT on: July 16, 2023, 11:57:24 PM
But its not bad trying to throw the advice outside maybe some of the addicts can still grow a mind from the constant advice given that can help them withstand this habit of theirs and moreover I have seen someone who have discipline himself to actually reduce his gambling act because of the huge losses and problems he had to encounter.
The real problem is how to convince the addict that he is suffering from addiction problems!
Most of the people who have gambling problems that I have met (as I said in another reply) don't realize they are sick and when you tell them that they need help, they refuse to accept the truth. They will tell you that everything is under control while it's not. Recognizing the issue and embrassing the sad truth is the most important step toward recovery.
This is the reality with gambling addicts. People just gamble and when they're at the level of addiction they just say it is common and I'm normal. To get out of addiction first of all the person should have the self willing. When they don't find themselves addicted the recovery phase won't happen. The realisation happens when they don't have anymore option left to gamble, particularly when they weren't able to manage the funds for gambling think of getting out of addiction.
556  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting on: July 16, 2023, 11:35:31 PM
For the rich and wealthy, gambling could easily be something done out of fun or leisure but, when it comes to people who see it for a means of earning there daily bread, it easily feels like an only chance or means to a survival.
Sorry if I didn't get this right, but are you suggesting that reach people are more immune for addiction? If my interpretation is right then I have to disagree with what you said. I don't have exact numbers but I believe it's actually the opposite which is right. Wealthy people are more prone to all kinds of addiction not only gambling addiction. They spend more time playing because they can afford to do so which makes them subject to addiction and they won't realize it till they start running out of money.
Rich people mostly get into addiction as a result of experimenting each and everything available for enjoyment. They never think about money and that's the reason for their addiction. Rich people have a winning mindset which is also a reason why rich people get addicted easily. The good money they hold doesn't let their life get hurt, but with the common man it is something hard as he doesn't have much to spend.
557  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: Bull/Bear Market Which Do you Prefer? on: July 16, 2023, 11:28:54 PM
It is like asking whether you want your right eye or the left eye. Everyone wants both the eyes for the right vision, so is with the bull/bear market. Whether we're in the bull/bear market we need to be prepared enough to face the worst case market scenario, so that we can be successful unlike the market trend.

Both were important to profit, however it is the common man's thinking to see his holdings grow in value. This means bullish market is expected when they have good volume in cryptocurrencies and bearish is expected when they want to buy more. In reality people out of panic sell when the price drops and buy when price is towards the peak.
558  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: would you play more on casino when your country plans to ban BTC? on: July 16, 2023, 10:40:48 PM
So personally, I would never gamble all my Bitcoins just because my government has banned Bitcoin but I would hold them in a non-custodial wallet and keep them for as long as I can because maybe some day in the future, I get to use them somewhere that might benefit me in some way.

There is no sense in gambling all the funds inside our wallets just because the government are planning to ban bitcoin and the use of other cryptocurrency, if that is what the people are thinking, I don't doubt why they are losing frequently because they have that kind of mindset. We always have a choice even though our own government is banning the existence of bitcoin, we can still go back to the basic and gamble like nothing happened.

I believe those who just gamble all their bitcoin for the fear of government banning it in their country are all ignorant of how to store or save it for the future because if a current government ban it, succeeding government can change the ban and you start enjoying the increased btc value because the price will not be stable from what it is then .

They must learn how to properly store bitcoins and not be bothered by the government. The use of a hardware wallet is the most secure storage without third parties and you alone have full control. Those who sell bitcoins out of fear that bitcoin regulations ban bitcoin entirely will certainly not have a future advantage when those regulations change. just need to see and wait how bitcoin will be received in the future without strict regulation.
The government that announce ban on bitcoin will lift the ban in another two weeks, months or years. This is happening with different countries, so it is always good to secure it. Someday we'll get access to make use of it. Just because usage is banned we shouldn't focus into gambling which is wrong, because we'll play with a mentality of losing. There are incidents in which people have travelled to nearby countries to make use of their holdings fearing their country's legality on bitcoin usage.
559  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You are still very early on: July 16, 2023, 10:37:11 PM
The growth continues along with the increasing demand. This makes the limited supply reach high value in the long run. We should not think of the past, we should find reasons to invest at the present. Considering the growth even 0.01BTC will be more valuable. Nothing to worry about the entire supply had got distributed and all. Everything have got its usage and now it have reached a level which doesn't let the price go down to certain point. Governments tried to have control and now they've understood well and started legalising the usage. More positive things happening around and the same makes it a right time to buy bitcoin.
560  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: July 16, 2023, 07:48:56 PM
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At the moment few balls left, it's quite challenging for the Afghan batters to reach 150 runs. I'm looking 120 runs after playing 17 overs.
It is a modest total to chase but looks like the pitch is not that easy to bat and Bangladesh is playing sensibly as Bangladesh need only 8 runs to win in the last 10 balls and they got plenty of wickets left and Shakib Al Hasan is still in the crease and Rashid Khan already bowled his quota of overs if not we could expect something from the T20 specialist.

Edit: Bangladesh finished in style with a six. 
In both the T20 matches Bangladesh won the toss and decided to bowl. The team is more confident on the batting line-up to chase targets. The pitch isn't favourite for scoring, if not we could have seen better score from Afghanistan which could've made the matches even more closer. Big relaxation for Bangladesh on winning the T20 series, if not winning both the series would've been a big problem among the Bangladesh cricket fans.
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