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1241  Other / New forum software / Re: New forum? on: March 17, 2016, 12:14:11 AM
1. collect money to cure cancer
2. commission your dog to do cancer research; pay Dog $100k US/mo
3. ? ? ?
4. PROFIT!

Substitute "forum" for "cancer" & "Slackage" for "Dog."
So, according to you, theymos' personal gains with this is basically him giving perhaps more money than he needs to for the development of the forum software?
If so, I don't particularly see how this is any sort of enrichment for theymos.
1242  Economy / Services / Re: Decode this url For 5$ in BTC on: March 11, 2016, 04:35:22 PM
No i'm not doing this for learning !
and i'm not onto web programming etc.
i still need this anyone can do it ?
I can try to give it a look if you can provide the Source code.
1243  Economy / Services / Re: Decode this url For 1$ in BTC on: March 10, 2016, 06:42:17 PM
IMO Its not going to be in the php files.
Why wouldn't it be? If it's encrypted using PHP mcrypt_decrypt() could be used, and if it's in the database a query could be created to fetch the string back.
1244  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [EDU] List of Bitcoin Scam Sites on: March 10, 2016, 04:13:00 PM
It's probably made for phishing attempts , bitcointaik.org/index.php
see here the scam accusation : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1393737.new#new
Added, thank you!
1245  Economy / Reputation / Re: LUTPIN IS RETARDED HAHAHAHA on: March 10, 2016, 12:56:42 PM
With all due respect mexxer, stfu.  I'm not a noob here and you're not a mod.
TIL you have to be in a position of power to say if something is substantial or not. Don't be an idiot. You made a post which is essentially irrelevant to the discussion whilst wearing a paid signature (which pays for any bullshit post it can) and you're confused as to why it was removed?

I also quite like how people such as OP are really clutching at straws for their petty case against people in DT. If you dislike them, remove them from your trust list and carry on with your life.
1246  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: March 10, 2016, 12:27:02 PM
I get this
snip
Is it hard to convert it to look like this?

"to":"18SjJnsZ19yn7zaQynGnVPftBNesY9GkT3","amount":"52","date":"2016-03-10 10:51:50"
"to":"1PgcyzYVQ42wZTF5694am22xcgnoWuVa3v","amount":"350","date":"2016-03-10 10:51:50"
"to":"1KZNZkncdboRL9r9G7tenzEYVncLWykanx","amount":"52","date":"2016-03-10 10:51:05"
All you should have to do is parse the JSON from this point. Something like what is listed here might work. Try this:
Code:
$payouts = $getpayout | ConvertFrom-Json

$payouts.rewards[0]; #First payout
$payouts.rewards[1]; #Second payout
#... etc
1247  Other / Off-topic / Re: Google Analytics Setup on: March 09, 2016, 09:04:49 PM
Can you help me about other pages?
Where to put the code to track?
Anywhere between the <head></head> tags works.
1248  Economy / Services / Re: Decode this url For 1$ in BTC on: March 09, 2016, 07:22:47 PM
i can provide you Source code of Site & all Javascripts maybe that can be useful?
It's likely just going to be in the PHP files of the site; I doubt Javascript is used any of this. I could try to have a look, though I am no expert on hashing and encryption.

and  they are very shitty coder's i think it's some simple url encoding encryption base64 & some others but i'm noob Sad !
Base64 is used to allow the encrypted message to be output as a string. It's needed if using the mcrypt library.
1249  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: March 09, 2016, 06:01:13 PM
Does anyone know if this serves to bots?

Code:
var timeout;
document.onmousemove = function(){
  clearTimeout(timeout);
  timeout = setTimeout(function(){alert("move your mouse");}, 60000);
}
I'm not sure that would do much since it is Javascript, therefore can easily be removed by any bots.

In Powershell i can use this to see my balance

Invoke-RestMethod -Method Get -Uri "https://faucetbox.com/api/v1/balance/?api_key=myapikey"

Can any figure out how to get 5 last payment?

https://faucetbox.com/api/v1/payouts/
count=5&api_key=MyAPIkey&currency=BTC

And how to send btc?
In order to see the last 5 payments and send others using the API you must send a POST request to the server. The command you are using sends a GET request, which is only compatible with the balance API (allowing it to work with Microwallet).
Try to use the method listed here to send a POST request to FaucetBox. It would probably look similar to this:
Code:
$postParams = @{count='5';api_key='APIKEY';currency='BTC'}
Invoke-WebRequest -Uri https://faucetbox.com/api/v1/payouts/ -Method POST -Body $postParams

Can you suggest which ad networks to use in running faucetbox? I'm currently running growfaucet.ml and there are lots of traffic already but the ads alone can't match the expenses. Is that normal? Any suggestions with the ad networks to use?
It is somewhat common for faucets to use Google Adsense to cover costs, however this may not work if you do not have a bank account to receive payment.
1250  Other / Off-topic / Re: Google Analytics Setup on: March 09, 2016, 05:48:26 PM
If you are just using the out of the box FaucetBox script, go to templates/default/index.php in your FTP and place it at line  95, under the closing <style> tag.
1251  Economy / Services / Re: Decode this url For 1$ in BTC on: March 09, 2016, 02:55:19 PM
The strings look somewhat similar to something encrypted, perhaps using PHP's mcrypt library with a 16 bit key.
If this is the case, the chances of you decrypting these messages is very small, due to you having to find the key. Due to the length of this key (16 bits), the chances of you brute-forcing this key is very low/impossible.
1252  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [List] Bitcoin Advertising Networks on: March 08, 2016, 03:00:18 PM
Liiike adsense, bid buy sell, media.net and the captchas? Not sure if you read the op. That's cool though. Really doesn't need to be listed if you're that opposed to it.
I made the Op, though I did forget he listed the FIAT networks. Apologies.
1253  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [List] Bitcoin Advertising Networks on: March 08, 2016, 12:49:20 PM
No mention of DashAD.io Wink Looking good though. Smiley
Unless DashAD has a method of payment through Bitcoin, it doesn't belong on a list of Bitcoin Advertising Networks.
1254  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [EDU] List of Bitcoin Scam Sites on: March 07, 2016, 04:11:01 PM
Well here are the two other threads already started on it, haven't read up on them though Thread 1 Thread 2
www.blackarrowsoftware.com needs to go on this list. It's an ASIC scam company (same scam as BFL) that stole millions worth of BTC and USD from its customers.
I noticed that StakeMiners is not on the list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990219
Added all of these to the list. Thanks for the reports and help everyone, apologies for the delay.
1255  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [EDU] List of Bitcoin Scam Sites on: March 02, 2016, 11:54:37 PM
Don't forget igot.com. They using our money for own profit and we are just begging for own money. While they are making profits out of it.
If you can make a thread in the Scam Accusations board with evidence and post it here I can add it to the list. Currently it is only your word, which isn't enough to have a service added to the list.
1256  Economy / Reputation / Re: Someone give you negative trust for participating in a PONZI? on: March 02, 2016, 11:52:46 PM
1. So if investing in ponzi schemes arent illegal, why are we giving negative trust for investing?
Because he didn't just invest in a ponzi, he promoted it and condoned it's use. He is trying to trick users that could not know how schemes such as this work into investing and possibly being scammed. As dooglus said:
I suspect that you received negative trust for promoting the ponzi, not for participating in it. Posting on the forum about how you played the game and made a profit isn't just playing the game, it's promoting the game to others, even though you know it's a scam. You're free to do that if you like, and others are free to leave you feedback drawing attention to how you are promoting a scam.

2. But the person who got the neg isnt running a ponzi, you shouold look into the matter more
My apologies, I misread your original message. Regardless, my answer is very similar to the above. He isn't just investing, he is promoting a known scam. I would say this justifies a negative trust.

3. Maybe some of them dont know, im pretty sure he didnt get those refs from bitcointalk hence why i dont see the need for the negative rep on his profile
That's irrelevant imo. If I were found to steal from people IRL, I shouldn't be shown as trustworthy on a forum simply because my conduct there was acceptable. Whether he is promoting it here, on another site or on a giant billboard in his city center, he is still promoting a scam openly and deserves the repercussions for doing so.

First of all I am not against warnings at all, quite the opposite actually and I never lured anyone in promising great profits or anything. I made them aware of the system and the pits they can fall in but only when asked.
Personally, I think this is the problem. I am glad that you are open about the way that such services work, but I believe that this should be given to them along with the initial announcement of the thread. I think that it is fair that people understand what they are investing in without having to ask.

I even think that the subforum should be renamed Ponzi's Pyramides and HYIPs just to make it even more clear.
I can agree with this, though it is debatable that people should do their own research before investing in anything and understand what they are getting into therefore not needing such an obvious name.

Well for some in here it is not about the long time member presenting it as legit service. It is about everyone that is joining a Ponzi in the subforum and according to their account everyone who is joining is proving they are a scammer hence the cute red warning:
Quote
snip
But in my opinion that is tagging the noobs too, like you say they are not the point in this discussion. As said warning explains they will tag everyone that is joining noob or not.
Personally I can't say that I would persecute users for investing in a Ponzi, though it is definitely immoral if you understand how they work. However, promoting an investment similar to the way that OP did - whilst knowing exactly how the scheme works - is definitely worthy of a negative trust.

The problem they cause by this I explained here:
It is really not that hard to explain. A red trust is a warning. Warnings make you aware something is up. They work because they aren't always around us. But when every participant has the same warning on their profile it loses it's message.
When a noob googles bitcoindoubler and comes to the subforum and sees everyone with with negative trust it is nothing special anymore and I doubt they will check it.
A negative trust, a warning should not be giving lightly in my opinion for that exact reason. It should stand out when visiting a page. And it will lose its message in that subforum when everyone wears that tag.
So by them tagging everyone, you have to agree that it will even become more obscure for a newcomer to see the legitimate negative trust on the ones organizing as everyone is wearing the same tag.
I do agree, yes. The problem comes in that without negative trust tags, a newbie has no possible way to see that such services are immoral and will eventually scam (even though trust can only be seen by logged in members, which I believe should definitely be changed). I believe that what you have described here:
So I have no problem what so ever with a warning in every new thread, it could even be an automated message that gives an ever clearer warning than the standard warning above the sub. I have no problem with tagging every operator deep in the red and explain it in the topic itself. But I do think it will miss it's goal if you will tag everyone.
Is a good way to deal with the problem of ponzi operators and negative trust, however this is again not the subject that this topic describes.
I think that the negative trust on OP is justified even if he may not be running a ponzi simply because he is giving his word as a "Hero Member" that such a service is safe to invest in and will continue to pay, which we all know it won't. Whilst his rank may not mean much to those acquainted with this forum, to a noob this rank may be misinterpreted as something trusted and take his word; possibly causing them to be scammed.

IMHO anyone participating in ponzi signature campaign should be given a benefit of doubt.A member can not be held responsible for wearing a signature of a service or website which later turned out to be ponzi.How is one supposed to know a potential ponzi? and if a member wearing a signature is expected to know,the forum staff should delete the signature campaign thread itself
This isn't relevant to the topic. Please at least read the thread before spamming for your bit-cents.
1257  Economy / Reputation / Re: Someone give you negative trust for participating in a PONZI? on: March 02, 2016, 08:54:39 PM
Sorry for being late.

I will ask you this for the third or  fourth time, is investing in a ponzi illegal in your country? Not promoting, investing

please just give me a straight yes or no answer
Probably not, no, but I expect it would depend on the circumstances. Regardless, this is irrelevant to the topic at hand.

I know this is bitcointalk  Roll Eyes So they read the title and not the glaringly obvious warning of the subforum wherein the schemes are placed?
Noobs miss the bright red "Warning: Trade with extreme caution!" under a user's name several times, why would they read a note in a subforum?
Though assuming that everyone read everything they should, there's still a few problems. The first being language barriers; not everyone speaks English and not everyone may understand what that message means.
The second being human nature. People tend to believe things differently should it affect them positively. For some people a scheme they invest in could promise to kill a child per investment, though their own greed will have them invest for personal gain anyway.
Lastly, if people like OP were to post on threads saying how legitimate the promoted service is, do you not think this would lower/nullify the warning given by the forum?

How do you know that if they found a link on google, opened the lalala.ponzi page, clicked on "forum" and get redirected here (what we have seen a lot). Did they even saw it is bitcointalk and not being blindsided by the BTCBTCBTC in their eyes that made them miss the said warning?
Then there is nothing we can do against that apart from put it in obnoxious bold red lettering, which isn't going to happen. I'm sure that they would read the posts in the thread though, so once again people like OP making the service seem legitimate doesn't help.

Exactly the same with bitcoin though maybe they can't deny they know it is bitcoin but they sure can deny knowing the law on it pretending being young and uneducated ("someone naive and inexperienced")  
They can, yes. However, afaik claiming that you didn't know a law existed doesn't then make that law not be applied to you. Regardless, as said above, the legality of Ponzis is not what the problem here is (and is likely an issue for another topic/board).

And yeah it is a lame thing giving someone negative trust because he is using bitcoin on a bitcoinforum, I agree
The problem should this happen is not how 'uncool' it would be to leave everyone a negative, more that if that were to become the norm any users with a legitimate negative trust would be overlooked and could scam further.

it is just as lame as giving noobs negative trust for burning their fingers.
The topic here isn't about a noob getting a negative trust for investing in something he shouldn't. This topic is about a member who has been here for a long time trying to legitimize a service that he knows will become anything but.

Do you honestly think that tagging those that invest in ponzi schemes will stop people from making them?
That isn't the point in tagging them. The tag is to show other users that the person running the ponzi shouldn't be trusted with their money.

Also, how does investing in a ponzi make someone a scammer?
This isn't the point. OP didn't just invest in a ponzi, he promoted it to over 100 people. Please don't try and tell me that all of these 100 people know exactly what a ponzi is and how it works.

cryptodevil

This user is currently ignored.
Child.

Looks like a break down in semantics but I think a ponzi scheme can be seen as a gamble.
Yeah, Ponzis are a form of gambling. That's why they are to be posted in a subsection of the Gambling subforum.
1258  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: March 01, 2016, 11:24:47 PM
I´m watching other faucets and all with solvemedia captcha, same error  Cheesy
You should perhaps switch from the SolveMedia captcha; it is somewhat easy to bot.
1259  Economy / Reputation / Re: Someone give you negative trust for participating in a PONZI? on: March 01, 2016, 11:18:48 PM
Let me get this straight, maybe i'm a little slow i cant clearly understand, is investing in a ponzi illegal in your country or any other?
Yes. I live in the United Kingdom if you would like to do further research. Regardless, promoting ponzis is immoral at best. It's completely deserving of a negative trust IMO.

Going by your logic, everyone involved in a shootout using an illegal gun shouold be jailed, even if they have nothing to do with it
Just like being in a Mafia ring doesn't make you innocent, neither does investing in a Ponzi (especially if you refer new users, similar to what OP is said to have done). If you need to know why this is bad reread my old posts; I say why there.

edit: also, why are you protecting mexxer-2 and lutpin?
I don't see that they have done anything wrong, however this is not the place to talk about it.
1260  Economy / Reputation / Re: Someone give you negative trust for participating in a PONZI? on: March 01, 2016, 11:08:01 PM
Where is illegal to invest in? Has anyone ever been arrested for investing? Not running the ponzi, investing
Ponzis and Pyramids are illegal full stop. If I am a part of a mafia crew, I'm not above the law because I didn't kill anyone.

abuse is defined as : use (something) to bad effect or for a bad purpose; misuse.

its literally the first thing that came up when i googled it
Trust abuse isn't defined in the same way as abuse on this forum. I'll see if I can find what theymos considers abuse somewhere; I'm sure he posted about it before.

Also, are you implying that I have something against OP because he is on DT?
I literally found out that he has on DT just minutes ago
No, I'm implying that you have something against the person that left him negative trust by the way you commonly post things similar to this:
Yes OP, the self appointed police made new forum laws a few hours ago
I'm guessing that you have some sort of thing against users such as cryptodevil, mexxer and Lutpin who leave trust that you do not see as appropriate (despite being given good reasoning several times).

That source only talks about the small state of the USA and not the international bitcoin community
Which is why I updated with several sources from official websites of several countries. I am obviously not going to source every single country this way; you can easily find this information yourself. I also mentioned that participation in such schemes may differ from country to country.

So the question arises, if members give people negative trust because in their jurisdiction it is illegal to participate in a Ponzi, shouldn't we give everyone negative trust because in some jurisdictions it is illegal to trade in bitcoin in general?
I knew someone was going to bring this up.
This is BitcoinTalk. If someone visits this site where Bitcoin is prohibited, they cannot try to claim innocence due to the glaringly obvious title. However, someone new to this forum/Bitcoin in general may see "Get ##% back on your Bitcoin every hour - ReallyLegitInvestments" and be interested. Nothing from this gives the impression that such a service is prohibited, making it very easy for someone naive and inexperienced enough to take advantage of this offer and possibly be scammed.
People should do their own research on things that they invest in, but they don't. This is why the trust system was implemented - so other people can research and report on services and give their impressions.
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