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1261  Economy / Reputation / Re: Someone give you negative trust for participating in a PONZI? on: March 01, 2016, 10:41:09 PM
Where in the world are ponzis illegal to invest in? Where did you hear this? I am intrigued and want to know more
"A Ponzi scheme is an illegal business practice..." - Source. Literally the first result in Google.

Should you not trust this source, which I can understand, here are sources from official US ("Yet, both pyramid and Ponzi schemes are illegal because they inevitably must fall apart."), UK ("Legitimate trading schemes rely on valuable goods and services, while illegal pyramid schemes focus simply on recruiting more and more investors.") and Canadian ("Illegal distributions of securities sometimes involve Ponzi schemes.") websites. Obviously whether said schemes are illegal in a certain country is variable, however in most (if not all) 1st world countries such schemes are illegal.

Yes OP, the self appointed police made new forum laws a few hours ago, if you invest in ponzi schemes then they say you are a scammer
This sort of mentality has been around on this forum longer than I have. Please stop acting like you know how this forum used to operate to try push your childish vendetta against certain members of the DT system.

you can pm theymos about this if you think it is abuse
And he won't do anything about it. Abuse is defined as spam or other things of the same liking. Theymos has no jurisdiction on whether a feedback is correct or not (similar to every single other member on this forum bar the feedback giver and receiver), and he does not have the time to investigate every case. This is why trust is not moderated.
1262  Economy / Reputation / Re: Someone give you negative trust for participating in a PONZI? on: March 01, 2016, 10:29:26 PM
How is posting on their service thread promoting ?
Lets say I were to post on a thread of a scam service (that I knew would scam) saying "Wow, this service is great! I got 2x my profit!". Next day, this service steals all of the money invested. Do you not think I am in the wrong at all for using my position (which Newbie members would likely trust) to promote an obvious scam website?
I think that the trust is completely justifiable. If you want it removed then stop promoting Ponzi scams and contact cryptodevil in a few months and ask nicely to have it removed.

That section is actually made or consists only that stuff,No ?
Irrelevant. New users coming across that section will see "Multiplying your Bitcoin in 2 days!" and become interested. More than likely people such as OP will help remove any doubts by vouching for a service which will eventually scam.

We don't have rights to delete that feedback but we can make a supporting post for the OP in the link below.
snip
I don't know about you, but I wouldn't like someone who promotes my service to be also promoting illegal websites which steal other people's money.

Also, sort of off topic, but I really wish people like OP would stop using the word 'blackmail' in cases like this. Cryptodevil would gain nothing by you not promoting in ponzis, he would simply be helping new users to this community to avoid scams. Please look up the definition of blackmail.
1263  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: March 01, 2016, 10:07:37 PM
I have a problem on my faucet, I have Limit but my balance down more than límits.
I checked data base,ip, and faucetbox stars and all is Ok.
Is possible stolen in hidden Mode?
Check your FaucetBox payouts for anything out of the ordinary. If you see anything, regenerate your API key and change it in your Admin panel.
1264  Other / Meta / Re: Stopping gift card money laundering on: February 25, 2016, 01:16:26 PM
Any evidence that they arent legit
No, however it is not needed. As I said in another thread, the 'innocent until proven guilty' mantra doesn't work on this forum. All it takes is one successful con by someone to have the buyer down $100 with nothing in return. Personally, I think any steps against this are steps in the right direction.

I'll also reply to this since it's on a similar topic:
How do you expect the shoot first ask questions later approach to work if the person you shot is dead
This is over exaggerating. Negative trust does not label an account as dead, and things similar to this can easily be worked out so long as some sort of reform takes place which the DT member can see. My account was tagged previously, I would not consider it to be dead by any stretch of the word.

But do you throw around these accusations without proof? (like the hatesquad)
I don't, but I can understand why some do.

1265  Economy / Reputation / Re: EcuaMobi misusing his "TRUST" and bullying selective sellers on: February 25, 2016, 01:09:13 PM
this guy and the other spiteful guys will not shut up or remove the negative feedback until they know how I was getting those cards.
Yes, exactly. As I said previously, it must work this way to try and prevent others getting scammed by people with malicious intention.

It is a sort of extortion which it is very obvious to anyone.
It's not extortion; the people leaving the trust get nothing of personal gain out of this. Extortion would be "I'm going to tag you with negative trust until you give me a gift card for free".
What the people in the "hatesquad" are doing is essentially a blanket attack against those who sell illegally obtained gift cards. Granted this may not be completely effective, though there isn't much of a better way to go about it.
1266  Economy / Reputation / Re: EcuaMobi misusing his "TRUST" and bullying selective sellers on: February 25, 2016, 10:58:04 AM
Dude, how do you know I am selling stolen stuff?
Man do not accuse anybody without a proof so JUST FUCK OFF.
Innocent until proven guilty doesn't work here. It has been tried several times in the past and members have been scammed out of several BTC because of it. If you want your negative trust removed, rather than bitching about it here, prove that you are getting your cards from legitimate sources and I'm sure EcuaMobi and others will be happy to remove the trust.
1267  Other / Meta / Re: Stopping gift card money laundering on: February 25, 2016, 10:47:48 AM
If a seller wants to get rid of Giftcards let them be,they have buyers to purchase who really don't care how it comes from.
The problem isn't that people want to buy carded gift cards. The problem is that people are buying these gift cards believing they are legit, using them and are then running into problems when these cards are found to be illegitimate. The people selling this lose nothing from this, however the people buying them not fully understanding what they are getting into have the possibility of having their account on the service which the gift card corresponds to closed.

Why a third party has to interfere without being asked to ?
People are greedy and ignorant. Unless people specifically say that there will be repercussions to using stolen gift cards, people will buy them simply because they see '70% DISCOUNT'.

The point was, add people with Brains to the Network .
"I don't understand the problem with selling illegal goods, so I'm going to insult everyone that does". If you dislike the people in the default trust network then remove them from your trust list.
1268  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [EDU] List of Bitcoin Scam Sites on: February 24, 2016, 07:39:15 PM
You should add btc-vortex.com They scammed not much but still a great amount of btc
Why can't people just read the OP and realize that ponzis aren't added to this list.
1269  Economy / Reputation / Re: How strong is my case: Betcoin managment uses shills to protect reputation. on: February 23, 2016, 01:15:49 PM
snip
Trying to identify alt accounts through correlation of activity times is stupid and ineffective. All that doing this proves is that they are active around the same times, which could be linked to something as general as a timezone.
1270  Economy / Reputation / Re: User Lutpin abusing DT power on: February 23, 2016, 01:09:24 PM
If a user ignores the DT-WEIGHT and does as he likes then he obviously doesn't deserves it and on the other hand if a user knowingly does this then he is abusing it and should be removed.
So because someone's feedback makes a difference to the majority of users, they shouldn't leave the feedbacks that they did previously (which more than likely got them onto the DT list in the first place)? That logic seems a bit strange to me.

Regardless, the main difference (for me) between selling a BitcoinTalk account and a LocalBitcoins account is the risk that comes with selling one and not the other. Whilst BitcoinTalk doesn't condone selling accounts, they wouldn't terminate the account for it being sold. On the other hand, selling a LocalBitcoins account is against the ToS of the site and can result in the account being terminated and the user being left without an account or the Bitcoin they paid for it.

Unless this risk is explicitly presented during the sale (which in this case it is not), I consider a negative trust to be worthy as the OP is selling a product with an unmentioned risk, which could result in them scamming (intentional or not).

PS. You also do not need to create two threads for this. By posting repeatedly with insults simply makes you look like a child who is throwing a tantrum because they cannot get their own way.
1271  Other / Meta / Re: Negative user in default trust 1 on: February 18, 2016, 02:59:34 AM
So instead of forcing noobs to do their own due diligence we are potentially misleading them using a flawed trust system, convincing them to participate in transactions they might not otherwise take part in without the trust system telling theme these people are reputable when they are not?
Noobs here still trade with massively negative trusted users here and pay the price for it. If they can't put two and two together and come to the conclusion that big red words saying 'DO NOT TRUST THIS USER' means that they should perhaps not follow through with their deal, what on earth makes you think they're going to bother to look at a user's post/transaction history to come to their own conclusion?

When are you people going to admit this top down trust system is worse than having none at all?
I can't say I much agree with this. I envision scams skyrocketing should the trust system be removed due to the reason above.
1272  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Which sig campaign is open for Hero Members? on: February 18, 2016, 02:46:19 AM
ohh, maybe is finally time to leave stupid signatures campaigns, stop being whore and improve forum quality..
Looking at this user's post quality shows that in cases like this whether the user is enrolled in a signature campaign is irrelevant to the quality of posts they create. Signature campaigns aren't the problem on this forum, the people that abuse them are.
1273  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [EDU] List of Bitcoin Scam Sites on: February 17, 2016, 09:48:15 PM
minifrij
Please add the name of this grave site robber http://bitcoinbricks.org
This sounds like a pretty obvious ponzi to me, and those aren't added to this list. Sorry.
1274  Other / Meta / Re: My account SebastianJu banned for 14 days now? on: February 16, 2016, 06:34:34 PM
This is what happens when you start asking too many questions about the staff. Suddenly all these unwritten rules you never knew existed are enforced. Funny how this seems to happen over and over and over and everyone is either in line to brown nose or pretends it never happened.
You really like shoehorning in your vendetta against the staff in every irrelevant topic you can, huh?

You should look more closely next time. However, this was month ago yet you kept doing it.
I don't think this really needs to be mentioned anymore; he has accepted his punishment and already started to change. There is no reason to try and make him feel worse about it.
1275  Economy / Reputation / Re: What in heck's name happened to escrow.ms? on: February 11, 2016, 10:51:21 AM
...and also taking a cut from the criminals doesn't makes him a dishonest person.
Really? So if I ran a service working with someone like master-P, I would not be dishonest if I were to take a cut of any coins he scammed in exchange for changing them to another currency? Do you seriously believe this?

What he did off this forum was totally his choices ,as far as rep on this forum is considered I'd say he deserved it.
So because he had lots of points on a forum he deserves the $40k that he stole? Am I misunderstanding?
1276  Economy / Reputation / Re: What in heck's name happened to escrow.ms? on: February 11, 2016, 01:49:46 AM
tldr he was selling spaces into DT2 and refused to even consider reforming his ways: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990074.0;all
I know what happened with him, however I do not see the relevance between him and removing escrow.ms from DT1.
1277  Economy / Reputation / Re: What in heck's name happened to escrow.ms? on: February 11, 2016, 12:58:27 AM
...or considering his trust list mainly contains the people who are trustworthy at the moment, can his account be locked with an unchanged trust list?
I expect it can, however do we really want this? While he should be remembered as being a good contributor to the forums in the past, he admitted to fraud. I can't say I'm very fond of the idea of a fraudster being automatically trusted by the system.

What I think would be the best way to go on from here would be for existing DT1 members to look through his trust list and determine which users should still be in DT, then adding them to their own trust lists to keep them there. After this, I think that it would be best if escrow.ms was removed from DT completely along with any other inactive/incapable members of DT1. Having dead weight in the default trust list may seem easier now, however it will not further down the line should anything else happen.

Well if he does get removed from DT 1, another CITM is happening.
What do you mean by this?
1278  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [EDU] List of Bitcoin Scam Sites on: February 10, 2016, 11:47:44 PM
It's being long time since I posted that thread about Bitgold , I don't see any increase on the reviews given honestly and it's being few weeks now so I guess you can take the decision based on what you saw before .
I'll leave it on Pending for now and see if anything else comes up about in the future. Thank you for all your effort!
1279  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [EDU] List of Bitcoin Scam Sites on: February 05, 2016, 10:43:56 PM
It would be better to split website that are actually a scam and website that do phishing attempts so it becomes easy to find them on this list (It's getting bigger) .
That's not a bad suggestion, I may categorize the sites once I have some free time.

also according to this : https://twitter.com/fatos305/status/688927264583454721
You should add Electrum.pw & Electrum.space because they are doing phishing attempts and trying to infect people .
Couple more websites :
bitdays.org & bitcoin-ex.com , Reference : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1354258.msg13786635#msg13786635
Added both of these suggestions, thank you!

Do that only reference living websites that turned to be scams or do that count also dead sites ?
I try to keep the list with active sites only, however I do not have time to check over each one regularly. Feel free to post any dead sites you find and I may remove them/add them to another section.
1280  Other / Archival / Re: Updated Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns on: February 03, 2016, 09:03:06 PM
are you now not able to read English ? To be honest i now feel pity on these mental abilities.
While I tend to try not to comment on people's linguistic abilities, you are in no place to talk about reading and writing english. For example, the way you wrote this:
show me one who actually has intentions to help reduce the spam otherwise.
Made it seem like you were speaking about Staff, rather than campaign managers. Please learn more about sentence structure and context when phrasing things.

If you aren't fluent in English, that's fine. Commenting on other people's ability is not.

Please get back on-topic
Sorry Mitchell.
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