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4701  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Venezuela Trump re-elect split on: May 08, 2019, 06:28:11 PM
his is 100% a political ploy to get the Venezuelan vote for Trump (Rubio gets the tangential benefit of it as well) in 2020 in Florida.
Is Florida a key state when it comes to votes?


Trump CAN NOT win re-election without winning Florida. Trump barely won Florida in 2016 (won by ~1%) he is doing all he can to shore up Florida.  This entire Venezuela thing is designed to help Trump in Florida 2020.

Now you are just repeating yourself muppet.


Also the fact that you think this is all to drum up votes in what is already setting up to be a LANDSLIDE for him

Based on what evidence?

I wish the dems wouldn't run Biden against Trump but all available polls show an easy victory for Biden in 2020 if that should be the case. You don't have to believe the polls but you should at least demonstrate some rationale behind your opinions if you want to chastise others so viciously for their own.

Hahaha not a chance in hell Biden wins. I don't really care if you believe me you are a moron who wouldn't be convinced if Donald Trump himself held you down and tea bagged you while waving an American flag around. My rational is that all of the Democrat contenders are worthless, as is the Democrat party itself. They are too busy running on the platform of "orange man bad" to have any actual policies, and the policies they do have are from lunatic Socialists that no one wants or trusts. People are TIRED OF THEIR SHIT. Trump's approval ratings are steadily climbing. In short Trump is going to stomp a new mudhole in any Democrat contender in spite of your fantasies otherwise.
4702  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Colorado school Shooting! on: May 08, 2019, 06:20:27 PM
It's truly a shame, and it's also a shame that so many Americans are so dead set on not doing anything about it. I don't think educators should have to get firearms training and have to carry a gun in order to do their job, however that's certainly the direction things are headed.

Its only my point of view as a outsider "If someone really need a gun just to feel safe then he-she living in the wrong place"  that's how I look at the gun owners especially civilians in cities.
Why is it you get to decide where others should be living though? Where do you live? Does your nation even have anywhere near 350+ million people in it? Independence and self defense are very core American tenets.

If memory serves, he's from India, which has a population of over 1.3 billion yet far fewer gun deaths a year than America. It would appear mass murder is also an American tenet.

Wow. Very impressive. What you are basically telling me is if you don't own a car your chances of dying in a car accident drop significantly, so you decide it is best no one own any cars as you unilaterally ignore all of the other benefits of ownership. In this case, you ignore the fact that India, while it has less REPORTED "gun crime" it also has a murder rate that is 3 times as high (among other problems gun ownership helps with). https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/India/United-States/Crime/Violent-crime

Where can I read about that more?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show_loophole

And of course as predicted the hard alt right wing nut jobs right on Q   MOAR GUNS MURICA FUCK YA

Wow, you proved the concept exists. Good for you, you still don't know shit you muppet. Let me ask you a question. Is a criminal, some one who is willing to murder people, going to be restrained by the fact that he knows paperwork is required for him to own a gun? Is that going to prevent him from stealing one, or buying on on the black market if he wants it? No? Then all you are doing is regulating guns out of the hands of LAW ABIDING citizens.

Lets try another analogy. Opiates are potentially dangerous but also have legitimate benefits for some people. They are tightly controlled and contraband unless tracked and issued by a registered professional. Now if I get prescribed Oxycontin and I go home with it, is the fact that it is illegal to transfer to a 3rd party going to stop me from doing so considering I don't care about the law in this theoretical situation? Of course not. This is why your horse shit about gun show loop holes is meaningless because all it does is strip law abiding gun owners of their rights. Everyone knows prohibition and more regulations have done wonders for the drug war right? RIGHT? Of course, the issue is not really drugs or guns now is it, but the real causes are not ones Communists like you are willing to explore, so these make convenient scapegoats.

You aren't actually breaking any of this down logically, you are just running around drooling yelling "GUNS R BAD!", never once being informed about any of these subjects beyond what you feel. Frankly I don't give a fuck what a British subject has to say about our rights as free humans to defend ourselves anyway. You are a royal subject preaching the virtues of your subservience and servitude.
4703  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism vs. Socialism - Make your argument here. on: May 08, 2019, 06:04:20 PM
In my opinon, most important capitalism's advantage against socialism there is more effective economy. In long term it means that capitalistic countries develop much faster, people have there higher standard of living etc.

High standard of living? You may want to go on youtube and see how homeless people are living in Los Angeles, Seattle, and Portland.  If you didn't know any better you would think it was some 3rd world country in Africa.

The socialist countries in Europe seem to be doing much better for the lower class.

Interesting you pick the most Socialist areas of the USA as an example of Capitalism...
4704  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Colorado school Shooting! on: May 08, 2019, 12:34:05 PM
Its only my point of view as a outsider "If someone really need a gun just to feel safe then he-she living in the wrong place"  that's how I look at the gun owners especially civilians in cities.
Why is it you get to decide where others should be living though? Where do you live? Does your nation even have anywhere near 350+ million people in it? Independence and self defense are very core American tenets.


1) Nothing will ever change in the US until they get special interest money out of politics (like the rest of the developed world has done).
2) The common response from Muricans (especially in this nut house lol) is going to be MOAR GUNS, if those poor kids at school were armed
    with their own military hardware they could protect themselves against the crazies....

The US can't even pass legislation to close a well known "gun show" loop hole, something roughly 90% of Americans want.

So you think this is happening because lobbyists are just so good at convincing kids to shoot up schools? What they think school shootings sell guns? I am missing your logic here. Also regarding "get special interest money out of politics (like the rest of the developed world has done)." I only have one thing to say... BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH. What a myopic twat.

Hey buddy... when there is a violent person, how is the issue resolved? Usually the plan is to call the police, you know the guys with guns... Now hear me out, I know this is an insane idea for a British subject in the land of Canukistan to grasp, but what if schools had teachers who were willing to get professional training in order to be safely armed in schools so that the good guys with guns are already there instead of having to wait 5-30 minutes for police to respond and then decide if they maybe or maybe not want to actually intervene. In the case of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, the courts ruled the police didn't even have an obligation to respond since they sat outside and let the shootings continue. You are right though, we should continue letting unaccountable 3rd parties be responsible for our safety and the safety of our children. Regarding the "gun show loophole", it doesn't exist. Stop getting your information about our laws from sound bytes.
4705  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Venezuela on: May 08, 2019, 12:17:19 PM
But why would America spend resources to this end, what is IN for them? I don't think much, yet.

oil


there are many countries with dictators right now, there always are. US concentrates on "bringing democracy" to specific countries for specific reasons. In the case of Venezuela, it's oil (2nd highest confirmed oil reserves in the world)


Venezuelans are struck by the commodities curse: everyone who wants to "help" probably just wants to help themselves. Chinese gov, Russian gov and the Venezuelan gov are all as greedy as the US gov.

This simply isn't true.  

While it is true that the US picks and chooses what dictators to support and which ones to dispose based on very selfish reasons, this time the US gives ZERO fucks about Venzuela's oil reserve's.  The US could have and did get as much oil as they wanted from the Maduro regime and have been getting oil from them for a long time.  The largest importer of oil to the US is Canada a 2 century old ally of the US, 4 of every 10 barrels of oil imported to the US comes from Canada.  The US could have chosen to dispose Maduro for the oil anytime in the last xx years but they chose NOW to do it.  This is 100% a political ploy to get the Venezuelan vote for Trump (Rubio gets the tangential benefit of it as well) in 2020 in Florida.

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what is IN for them

Florida in 2020. without Florida Trump has ZERO percent chance of being re-elected!

You are a fucking muppet. Haven't you learned you are out of your depth yet with American let alone world politics? You have such strong convictions but so little actual knowledge about any of these subjects. You act like this is something different than any other nation who had the capability would do. Also the fact that you think this is all to drum up votes in what is already setting up to be a LANDSLIDE for him is so retarded it is beyond words. Do you really think it is worth losing his base by starting more wars to get some localized fringe minority in the US? Like I said you are a muppet and should stick to things you know like ice, hockey, maple syrup and alcoholism.

You are right on one thing though, that is the USA doesn't need to do this for oil, especially since it is a net oil exporter now. This is a stale trope that barely made sense in the past as a superficial marketing tool for wars, but was never really the objective.
4706  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Facebook bans Alex Jones and others on: May 07, 2019, 11:12:48 PM
I never said anything about getting paid, I said an exchange of value. You get the value of the service, and they get the value of all your personal information. An exchange of value is required for a contract (Terms Of Service) to be a valid legal document. It doesn't matter if you are a US tax payer, they benefit from US public systems and subsidies as they are based here.

What if you don't actually put your personal infos are they still getting the right value for their service?

In short you can still freely used it and in return your freedom is limited to their terms don't they have the rights to ban someone who they think that are harmful to their business? As far as I am concern that is how business works which very unethical tho but duh US based companies have the same ideology

What makes Facebook as pathetic here is that they are a US based company yet they are against the Freedom of Speech that a US citizen embodies.


Wait Jones were also banned from youtube or from the apple services that should mean something. If this guy really were able to promote violence and has some effects from its viewers then facebook might have done right in my opinion

You think it matters if you use a fake name? Do you use a fake name for your banking info? Your credit card? Your cellular phone? Do you think they don't have access to all of those things? They know your name is not Mike Hunt. This is racketeering, ie mob activity, illegally using a state sponsored monopoly as a proxy to do all the things the government legally can not do. I don't care if you believe it or not because functionally all the objectives are achieved regardless of your beliefs. I have been watching this process since before PRISM, Total Information Awareness, and Five Eyes were even a thing. This is an attempted overthrow of the USA as well as an attempt at a global power grab by these corporations and their backers, who coincidentally seem to be quite chummy with the Chinese state.

They claim the protections of a commons but they act as if a publisher curating content expecting to be liable for none of it like a publisher would be. They want to take advantage of all the wonderful infrastructure this nation has created and then use it as a tool to crush our freedoms. This is just the first phase, soon it will be you too as the global level Chinese style social credit system is rolled out in the open.


...
All that deplatforming has nothing to do with they claimed reasons. If it did, they would be able to be transparent about it and show which posts violated which guidelines/ToS.

Wouldn't such a course of action pretty much have to be coming from the very top and be a company policy?

Otherwise a company would be quite to flag cases where the claimed reasons didn't add up with the facts and the guidelines/ToS.
The banning and suspending accounts (and removing of posts) appears to be authorized by fairly low level employees at both Facebook and Twitter. It is probably at least every week that a post is removed or a person is suspended under controversial circumstances, and when asked for comment by a major news organization the company says the action was done in error and reverses the decision. In 2017, a low level Twitter employee banned Trump's twitter account until it was reversed 17 minutes later on his last day of work. It doesn't appear that either company has very strong internal controls in terms of making sure ban/removal actions are done in accordance with company policy.


This is just a cover story, AKA plausible deniability. This is an easy way for them to probe reactions and still escape liability as they simultaneously erode the response and alarm over the happenings. It is an ancient tactic. You create repeated false alarms to erode attentiveness then once apathy is conditioned you make the real move for the objective. It would be akin to a high level thief repeatedly setting off an alarm system over and over to breed inattentiveness over it being triggered in order to allow themselves to slip in undetected.
4707  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evil MAGA hat kids from Covington School VS Native American on: May 07, 2019, 04:49:02 PM
THE MAGA HAT MELTDOWN YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm-KPZ61q7s
4708  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child Kidnappings by the Western-European States on: May 07, 2019, 11:51:54 AM
https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/06/arizonas-child-safety-department-medical-kidnapping/
4709  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism vs. Socialism - Make your argument here. on: May 07, 2019, 10:15:47 AM
More moralizing Postmodernist contrarian tripe.

You aren't arguing for logical and logistics based reasons for Communism and Socialism. Your arguments as always rely completely upon emotionally based moralizing where all of your preferred ideologies are superior, moral, and good, of course only ever defined in the contrarian context of the inferior, immoral, evil Capitalism. Much like the Democrat party has zero platform except "Orange Man Bad!", Communists have one mantra "Capitalism Bad!" and of course by comparison of course "Communism Good!". Any time an analysis of the actual results of your insane ideology are examined even superficially your facade crumbles under the weight of ITS OWN contradictions. Communism is insane and is the preferred ideology of mentally ill people who think they are helping people when they are actually working to enslave them even further.
4710  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Facebook bans Alex Jones and others on: May 07, 2019, 05:45:55 AM


I didn't say "certain structures" I said infrastructure, such as roads, subsidized utilities, and the educated population for starters. We are not using their service for free. A terms of service contract REQUIRES by law an exchange of value for it to be a valid contract. They are buying personal information in exchange for use of their service. Part of the problem is they are not even abiding by their own terms of service, which is a violation of that contract for starters. Your entire statement was basically a lie you tell yourself so you do not have to think too hard about this situation and how it can be changed. Your lie is selling people apathy and powerlessness. Your lie is preaching submission. I am not stopping you from doing anything.



https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8bilw2/darpas_lifelog_canceled_the_same_day_facebook_was/

https://www.corbettreport.com/meet-in-q-tel-the-cias-venture-capital-firm-preview/

They are buying personal information? Are we eve getting paid? I also cannot get the point that we are not using their services for free ( I am not even getting something from them).

The roads "infrastructures"? how does that connects? I am not even a US tax payers.


Tho I can agree with you on one thing they sometimes "don't follow their on terms".  Stop calling me a liar tho just because again of that statement(again that is purely a point of view).

I never said anything about getting paid, I said an exchange of value. You get the value of the service, and they get the value of all your personal information. An exchange of value is required for a contract (Terms Of Service) to be a valid legal document. It doesn't matter if you are a US tax payer, they benefit from US public systems and subsidies as they are based here.
4711  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Venezuela on: May 07, 2019, 05:42:49 AM
The instability that is happening in Venezuela was eminent.
If a democratic presidential will be chosen from the Venezuelan people then the same situation will continue. The dictator should be stopped, but sadly the only way to do so is war...

War is not the solution. A free and fair election should do the trick.

I am not sure about the current approval level of Maduro, but there is a large segment of the population which remains loyal to him. In case the Americans go ahead with a military invasion, then his support base will grow and many millions will revolt against the invaders.

Till now, Juan Guaidó is unable to create a sizeable militia to fight against Maduro. He wants the Americans to do the dirty work for him. That's not going to work. If he has the popular support, then he can easily overthrow Maduro from power (just like what happened in countries such as Libya). If he is not capable of that, then I suspect that his support levels are quite low.

You think Libya overthrew the government by themselves? That is cute. That was an intervention I did not support and the results were horrible, especially for the Libyan people. It is kind of hard to have a free and fair election when a dictator is in charge, especially when he has China and Russia's state power backing them. I can't say i want American troops in Venezuela, but I also am not naive enough to think we can allow China to use it as its South American military hub complete with fuel supply either.
4712  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reee: On the importance for nazis, commies and all extremists to stop fighting on: May 07, 2019, 04:48:08 AM
Best Anti-Communist argument on 4chan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FvKlZeFiTc
4713  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: May 07, 2019, 03:40:16 AM
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-06/children-philadelphia-muslim-society-say-they-will-chop-heads-allah-0
4714  Economy / Digital goods / FREE SHUTTERFLY PENCIL CASE CODE on: May 06, 2019, 05:50:45 PM
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4715  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Facebook bans Alex Jones and others on: May 06, 2019, 05:39:45 PM
Uh... no. If you want to be a technocratic subject feel free. They do not have a right to deny people their rights against their will. Furthermore these companies not only take government funding, they also get government allocation of bandwidth. They benefit from the infrastructure we all pay for with taxes. Furthermore they are an illegal monopoly. Even further they are acting as publishers by curating content, which makes them liable for what they allow to be published and strips their safe harbor protections as a public commons. If you want to live as a spineless jellyfish subject that's fine, just stop telling people lies to escape your own cognitive dissonance.

Can you state some proof of this claims that they are taking government funding? What certain structures were you referring to? I get it we all have the rights the problem here is we are using their services for free and they have certain rules about it or wait we are again on that old problems in which we agree to such terms without even reading it?

What certain lies Am I actually telling you? I was just stating a certain point of view. You can't just call someone liar because they have a different point of view to yours instead why would you allow me to understand your perspective

I didn't say "certain structures" I said infrastructure, such as roads, subsidized utilities, and the educated population for starters. We are not using their service for free. A terms of service contract REQUIRES by law an exchange of value for it to be a valid contract. They are buying personal information in exchange for use of their service. Part of the problem is they are not even abiding by their own terms of service, which is a violation of that contract for starters. Your entire statement was basically a lie you tell yourself so you do not have to think too hard about this situation and how it can be changed. Your lie is selling people apathy and powerlessness. Your lie is preaching submission. I am not stopping you from doing anything.



https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8bilw2/darpas_lifelog_canceled_the_same_day_facebook_was/

https://www.corbettreport.com/meet-in-q-tel-the-cias-venture-capital-firm-preview/
4716  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Facebook bans Alex Jones and others on: May 06, 2019, 05:12:00 AM
No matter how are we gonna think about it, that is their company and they have all the rights even if this are against our will. They have their terms that a certain users should follow.

It's either you'll have to live it with it or get through with it.
Uh... no. If you want to be a technocratic subject feel free. They do not have a right to deny people their rights against their will. Furthermore these companies not only take government funding, they also get government allocation of bandwidth. They benefit from the infrastructure we all pay for with taxes. Furthermore they are an illegal monopoly. Even further they are acting as publishers by curating content, which makes them liable for what they allow to be published and strips their safe harbor protections as a public commons. If you want to live as a spineless jellyfish subject that's fine, just stop telling people lies to escape your own cognitive dissonance.
4717  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A Psychology Lesson For The Left on: May 06, 2019, 04:07:11 AM
Here's Your PROOF, "The Left" Has Gone COMPLETELY Insane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6grXCooL3-M

Seems like social media and the internet are quite bad for some people after all. I'm fairly sure they had a big impact on the decline of the left since it enables them to freely spread their lies/stupidity.

These are all quite applicable:

4718  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? on: May 06, 2019, 04:03:37 AM
Freedom of speech does not mean one can play with the sentiments of others or to pass remarks which can hurt there. There are around 2 billion Muslims living in this world and world is blaming 2 billion people because of few extremists and oppressors. Around 70 to 80 million people died in world war 2 just because of single person "Hitler" so should we blame Christianity or Germany for this, obviously no because you can not generalize whole population.

Yes that is EXACTLY what freedom of speech means, and this is exactly why Islam is not compatible with Western values or freedom in general. Islam is a globalist totalitarian supremacist political system under the guise of a religion. Even if 10% of Muslims are extremists, that is still 200 million radical Islamists committing acts of terror and violence. That number is unrealistically low as evidenced by these stats as well as many others. Shariah law is not compatible with freedom, period.

As far as WW2, last I checked this was not a religious war, and Hitler and the Nazis were not particularly fond of Christians either. He did however get along quite well with Islam. Islam needs to clean its own house, because the West is waking up to the taqiyya and if you refuse to clean your own house we will do it for you on our terms not yours.

History shows how tolerant Christianity is, until one day they are oppressed too much, then they will spend every waking moment dedicated to obliterating their enemies. No one wants that. Stop pretending Islam does not have a problem, because the world knows it does, and either the real true Muslims can work to repair it or wait until the world starts striking back without mercy. If the only thing Islam respects is strength then their cups will overflow with it until they are washed away in a torrent of blood. The times for making excuses for Islam has passed. The time for reformation is now. I want people to have freedom of religion and to worship God how they choose, I will not however stand silent while this vile violent supremacist ideology is given the protective cloak of religion to protect it from criticism. Islam itself deserves criticism.
4719  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A Psychology Lesson For The Left on: May 05, 2019, 02:14:22 PM
Here's Your PROOF, "The Left" Has Gone COMPLETELY Insane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6grXCooL3-M
4720  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New York State Rockland County Bans Unvaccinted Kids From All Public Places on: May 05, 2019, 02:33:07 AM
Dr Toni Bark, MD Speaking to the Washington State Legislature. 3 minutes every parent must hear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viqb0Q6xIuU
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