If you use this as definition for scammer, then this forum is the biggest scammer in the world!!!  Feel free to open a flag on theymos for operating a scamming forum. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I have the identity and location of 2 participants and have other options to hold them liable.  What a shocker, veiled threats from a guy who runs a protection racket. |
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The claims that vaccines with their health risks are the greater good compared to the diseases they prevent are totally substantiated but this is a case of you wanting to be taught the pre-vaccine history of deadly viruses and it hasn't happened. It should be common knowledge for anyone who has the time to get this far into a discussion. You have done so much research potential harms of vaccines but should have done background research that the history of flu epidemics
and the need for vaccines before doing so. It just seems like you have gotten all of your information from an anti-vaccine source.
Spanish flu wiped out about 5% of the world population in a few years. This should be your biggest fear. We know the vaccines aren't as bad simply by the fact that life expectancy is going up with them instead of going down with these diseases. If large amounts of people start dropping dead from a vaccine, we can revisit that question but right now, its a homerun.
The main problem with vaccines is that they have been so effective at preventing viruses that we now live in a world where no one knows how bad viruses were
You don't HAVE to get vaccinated. No one is forcing it but its required for school and childcare. Individuals do not have a right to spread deadly viruses to others.
Again, you are just talking about what you want to talk about rather than addressing the premise of the topic which is compulsory vaccinations. You keep wanting to shift the debate to a pro vs anti vaccination argument which is a false choice fallacy. I highlighted the self contradictory statement you made. Yes, vaccinations are becoming compulsory. Education is compulsory, as well as the vaccinations to attend being compulsory. They are literally passing laws in some places saying you can't even be in public without vaccinations. You aren't at all addressing the topic, and when you pretend to briefly at the end you are literally lying about it to avoid addressing the conflict in logic. Vaccines are compulsory medication. You don't HAVE to get vaccinated. Your level of debate is so basic, sloppy, and self contradictory I am ashamed I live in a nation where you can be called an educator. |
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You are correct about corruption but wrong about what I would like. My plan involves reducing the size of the pot and would significantly reduce the amount of money being extracted from the system.
You might be honest, while I have my doubts, you are most certainly ignorant. Who do you think is employing the other 95%? What if that guy who makes 300k a year spends $250k in payroll every year? Suddenly this works for the 0%.
This is an invalid point. This fake person makes 50k not 300k. Income taxes are not based on revenue and the fact that you don't know that means you are either intentionally dishonest or way too rich or too poor to be in touch with basic tax concepts. Besides, most people in that sort of situation described could use small business deductions like property depreciation or smart accounting to report their adjusted gross income to near 0 to pay minimal taxes. The business isn't doing great. The point that these are still the employing class is quite a valid point. You act like these people live like royalty, and you want to remove their incentive for working as hard as they do, but they employ a large percentage of the people who make less than them. It is a lot like a food chain in nature. You can't just cut off the top half and expect everything to work out just fine. Also there is the very simple question of what entitles you to the labor and resources of others? |
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The value of Vaccines vastly outweighs the costs/risks both to the individual and to society. Vaccines have nearly eradicated many diseases only to see them come back in packets of areas in which groups of people have declined to have their children vaccinated. Please remember that not everyone is healthy enough to receive every vaccine and there are legitimate medical reasons for some people to not receive a particular vaccine.
Vaccines have shown themselves to be safe after decades of research, and multiple studies over many decades.
When a pharmaceutical company sets the price of a drug, they take several factors into consideration:
*R&D cost of the drug in question
*R&D costs of drugs that will never be released to the public (failed research)
*Production costs of the drugs
*Estimated sales volume while the drug is protected by patient
*Estimated subsidies to be given to consumers of the drug, domestic and international
*Profit
Above all, if a drug is priced above what the market will support, it will not sell.
As to your concerns about some drugs being dangerous, drugs are often needed when a person is very sick, often to the point at which if the person does not receive treatment, they will all but certainly die in the semi-near future. Cancer for example is going to kill a person without treatment, and many cancer treating drugs are what amounts to poison. This poison kills the cancer, but it also affects the rest of a person's body, and the patient is made aware of the risks and side affects of taking the drug, so they can be informed when they consent to treatment. Over time, new treatments for some deadly ailments have become less harmful than previous treatments due to advances in technology and additional research.
There is no reason to hold a drug company liable for a side effect of a drug if the risk of the side effect was disclosed ahead of time. I don't think anyone is being compelled into taking drugs that has a real risk of serious negative side effects.
Another case of answering the questions you wish I had asked, not the questions I actually asked. I never advocated for getting rid of vaccines. I asked why is it ok to remove people's bodily autonomy and make vaccines compulsory in violation of informed medical consent? You make claims to their safety, but you also argue they shouldn't hold liability. If they were that safe, why do they need government protection from liability? This is usually the part where you spew platitudes about "the greater good" and make unsupported claims of safety with zero substantiation. |
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Could you be any more arrogant and presumptuous implying I only get my history from memes?
well well... https://www.bitchute.com/video/l4hKMvTSpero/ btw check also the definition of "meme" by richard dawkings, the creator of the term in the 70's I see, so because I some times watch humorous things I get all of my information from memes. Is that your logic? BTW check the name, its Dawkins. Next time you are being a condescending twat trying to source an author spell his name right. Related: "So, if you’re serious about your anti-fascism, now’s the time to load up on silly string, ski goggles, masks, hard knuckle gloves, and whatever you make those milkshakes with. POG might be on the run at the moment, but there’s an election season coming up, so we need to be prepared for anything. The important thing is to remain hysterical, and to be ready to respond to whatever emotional stimuli the ruling classes wave in our faces. The fate of democracy hangs in the balance." http://www.unz.com/chopkins/the-united-states-of-fascism-hysteria/ |
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A flag to show that Game Protect is not a scammer is a good idea.  Flags always mean there is something wrong so you will always get the negative impression from it unfortunately. The only positive impression you may get is from a positive feedback or neutral feedback with positive statement in it. This is not true! Believing means not knowing that Game Protect is a scammer! Not knowing that Game Protect is a scammer confirms that Game Protect is not a scammer. The more users believe = confirm that I am not a scammer, the higher is the trust rating and I have the best trust rating you can get on bitcointalk The correct versions are: Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they believe that the creator of this topic displays some red flags which make them high-risk trustworthy. Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they know / have proof that the creator of this topic displays some red flags which make them high-risk. The trust system was created to help prevent fraud and abuse, not so that racketeers can use it as a veneer of endorsement of the forum to cover up for their lack of credibility. |
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I challenge you to place this 5 BTC with a trusted escrow and clear terms. Otherwise all this is, is free PR for you with zero risk. You won't however, because you are afraid some one might claim it and you would have to pay to expose your own criminal activity Yes, the offer to give 5 BTC for proof who I scammed and for how much is zero risk for me because I never scammed anyone! You are just repeating yourself now. Less talk, more action. If this is a genuine offer place the funds with a trusted escrow here on the forum and define clear terms for claiming it. If there is zero risk you have nothing to fear right? Of course you will just keep making empty offers like this and would never honor it, this is proven by your refusal to place the funds in escrow. This is a lot like the protection racket you run, you get something but give nothing. Funny for some one who claims to be a hub of judging the trustworthiness of others, there seems do be zero information about your company publicly available. Everything you do is an illusion. |
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Yes, your kind of violence is a special kind of violence that is excusable is it?
sure, slap a fascist is always good. it's self defense. If at least they could spend some time trying to understand all words of my sentence, what they mean, who wrote about those concepts... well, I would never hear this question. Violence in the name of defending against ideas you think other people have is not self defense, that is literally what fascists do by definition. if it's defending against violence, it's a necessity. sometimes people misuse the term to define all authoritarians. it's wrong. fascism is related to nationalism, militarism and corporatism capitalist. the word roots is from the latin word fasces. can you call all revolutionaries fascists? french revolution? russian? arab spring? nope, you can't. that's totally wrong. the internet made the research so much easier for newer generations. use that. but go deeper, you can't learn from memes. But you aren't talking about defending against violence. You are labeling a person based on their ideas and then justifying violence against them based on that. No one is arguing against self defense against violence. Fascism is a form of authoritarianism, of which many of your examples fall under. Could you be any more arrogant and presumptuous implying I only get my history from memes? |
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Who said the companies were more trustworthy when it comes to vaccines? Sounds like a strawman. Vaccines are essential. Just because you consume a basic need doesn't mean you find the producer trustworthy. It just means there is no better option.
You aren't addressing any of my points or questions or points, and using a straw man in the same breath as you accuse me of using a straw man. Considering that I raised the premise to begin with, strawmanning my own premise would be a neat trick. I asked why compulsory vaccinations are ok when people would find compulsory medication reprehensible, especially in light of the fact that they have repeatedly shown to put profit over risk to human health and life. Vaccines are compulsory medication. The main thing that separates vaccines from other types of medication such as pain killers is because something like pain only affects the individual patient while a virus incubates/breeds in your body to a point where it can easily spread to other people. In short, the viruses for which vaccines are compulsory are contagious and have devastating effects, while the consequences of manufacturers cutting corners pale in comparison. You still aren't responding to any of my points. You are answering the questions you wish I had asked rather than the ones I actually asked. What gives you the right to decide to put individuals at risk against their own will so that you can feel protected? Additionally the list of compulsory vaccinations continues to grow. Are you really arguing vaccinations like those for chickenpox and the flu would result in consequences that "pale in comparison" to the personal risk and loss of autonomy over ones own body? Also, who are you to decide acceptable risks for others? For some one who sees Nazis behind every bush, you are very eager to erase informed consent laws which directly resulted from the horrors of Nazi medical experimentation. |
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In the real world the one who claims something has to put the proof of his claim on the table! Okay, cool. Where's the proof that you had not scammed over the past 3.5 years? No proof available that I scammed someone is the proof!  I challenge you to place this 5 BTC with a trusted escrow and clear terms. Otherwise all this is, is free PR for you with zero risk. You won't however, because you are afraid some one might claim it and you would have to pay to expose your own criminal activity The fact that you refuse to do this is proof you never intend to honor your word. |
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Yes, your kind of violence is a special kind of violence that is excusable is it?
sure, slap a fascist is always good. it's self defense. If at least they could spend some time trying to understand all words of my sentence, what they mean, who wrote about those concepts... well, I would never hear this question. Violence in the name of defending against ideas you think other people have is not self defense, that is literally what fascists do by definition. |
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Who said the companies were more trustworthy when it comes to vaccines? Sounds like a strawman. Vaccines are essential. Just because you consume a basic need doesn't mean you find the producer trustworthy. It just means there is no better option.
You aren't addressing any of my points or questions or points, and using a straw man in the same breath as you accuse me of using a straw man. Considering that I raised the premise to begin with, strawmanning my own premise would be a neat trick. I asked why compulsory vaccinations are ok when people would find compulsory medication reprehensible, especially in light of the fact that they have repeatedly shown to put profit over risk to human health and life. |
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I challenge you to place this 5 BTC with a trusted escrow and clear terms. Otherwise all this is, is free PR for you with zero risk. You won't however, because you are afraid some one might claim it and you would have to pay to expose your own criminal activity |
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He simply doesn't understand British common law. But most people don't understand how simple British common law is, or American common law, or Canadian common law, or Australian common law, or Belizean common law, or India or Bangladesh common law.  as mentally disturbed as techshare, but from the opposite perspective... there is nothing to do with both of you , at least you have a fun side to your gig . bangladesh... what's next? Why? Because I disagree with you that you shouldn't be allowed to go to a foreign nation and beat people for following you? Keep it civil little girl. |
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I have a question here for everyone who agrees that pharmaceutical industries often sell over priced drugs which many can not afford, and often sell poorly tested and dangerous drugs, all for profit. Everyone seems to be in agreement on this point. It is clear even thought they hold legal liability for dangerous drugs, dangerous drugs still manage to hit the market regularly.
Why is it that some how these same companies are suddenly more trustworthy to people when they are manufacturing vaccines where they hold ZERO liability? What is so different about vaccines that implicitly makes them safer than all of these dangerous recalled and overpriced drugs that these companies produce? Why is it that they are willing to put people's lives and health at risk with pharmaceuticals, but some how not when they manufacture vaccines? How do you think the population would respond to compulsory drugging of the people? What makes compulsory vaccinations any better?
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If Iran had been successful in seizing the ship, we would be much closer to war with Iran.
I suspect this will eventually lead to Iran escalating the situation in one way or another by making it more dangerous. for ships to travel through the Strait of Hormuz.
Iran's goal is to make this passage way unsafe to travel through to get the West to remove sanctions against Iran. If they cannot use their Navy to do this, they may resort to surface-to-surface missiles to attack civilian commercial ships traveling through the Straight; this would clearly provoke conflict.
I don't think it is very likely to see the year ending without some kind of military action against Iran.
I fully understand what they’re trying to do. But I think they’re overplaying their hand here. They’re comparing themselves a little too much to the North Koreans, and they think they can get the same negotiations and deal with their sanctions. The only reason North Korea may get that deal is because theres no other power in North Korea that the US wants to take over and can see bringing peace. Iran is different, Iran has people that can takeover. This is interesting, I had not read this. Do you have any sources for statements from them where they compare themselves to North Korea? Yeah, I listen to a podcast from the WSJ and the NY Times. Had a very interesting take on the whole situation here - https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/podcasts/the-daily/north-korea-iran-nuclear-deal.html Very listen. Just know you may have a liberal bias on Ny times and consv on wsj Before I listen to this long form piece, did you base the idea on statements from Iran itself or the interpretation of the reporters here? All sources have a bias, but that is more of a problem if it is an opinion piece rather than just reporting facts. |
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If Iran had been successful in seizing the ship, we would be much closer to war with Iran.
I suspect this will eventually lead to Iran escalating the situation in one way or another by making it more dangerous. for ships to travel through the Strait of Hormuz.
Iran's goal is to make this passage way unsafe to travel through to get the West to remove sanctions against Iran. If they cannot use their Navy to do this, they may resort to surface-to-surface missiles to attack civilian commercial ships traveling through the Straight; this would clearly provoke conflict.
I don't think it is very likely to see the year ending without some kind of military action against Iran.
I fully understand what they’re trying to do. But I think they’re overplaying their hand here. They’re comparing themselves a little too much to the North Koreans, and they think they can get the same negotiations and deal with their sanctions. The only reason North Korea may get that deal is because theres no other power in North Korea that the US wants to take over and can see bringing peace. Iran is different, Iran has people that can takeover. This is interesting, I had not read this. Do you have any sources for statements from them where they compare themselves to North Korea? |
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Having not read the threads linked yet, I assume this is some sort of protection racket? Am I correct in this assumption?
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Its a lose-lose for the super wealthy. We're talking about people who earn more than 300,000 per year. LOL. Anyone who earns more than 300k a year is super wealthy. K. Well yeah thats 5%. This is bad for 5% and good for 95%. I'm just being honest. No program or policy benefits everyone. You might be honest, while I have my doubts, you are most certainly ignorant. Who do you think is employing the other 95%? What if that guy who makes 300k a year spends $250k in payroll every year? Suddenly this works for the 0%. |
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